Why was this game so successful? It feels weird, like...manufactured somehow? I don't mean the game itself or devs, it's a great game. But Demons Souls, Dark Souls 1-3, Bloodborne, Sekiro, yeah they were all very popular games and sold a couple million and have a big following.Then, Elden Ring comes out and everyone and their sister is playing it? I don't get it, where did the hype suddenly come from to skyrocket the series into "taking over the world"? Excuse my poor English I am not used it yet.
>>729022680>I don't mean the game itself or devs, it's a great game.stopped reading there
open world games are powerful
>>729022725>21,000 people and 90 professionals are wrong, I'm write
They manufactured everyone to play it?
>>729022680You are going to trigger a brony lolcow we all make fun of please be careful he just came out as trans.
>>729022680marketing, GRRM
>>729022680Openbworld GRRM
>>729022818>appeal to majority
>>729022680unlike E33, this was the real deal.
This is the game the whole world wanted since OOTThe most beautiful open world ever created, epic boss fights, so many builds possible.. its the only game that feel like " going on a big adventure"
>>729022990you left out some of his keywords. Calling him eric would have made this look better.
>>729022680The DS series had just gone through a hayday in popularity where tons and tons of people either got into DS3 or DS1 and got sucked into modern Fromsoft games. Elden Ring just kinda came out at the perfect time. It helped that it also launched during a bit of a dry spell in gaming and lots of people were looking for something new that wasn't "Ubisoft Open World #27"
>>729022818nothing good was coming out at that time and people were really impressed. elden ring is not that good when compared to the high standards of fromsoft games
>developer who keeps making popular games>they get more popular with every game they released because now theres the previous fanbase combined with newcomers>also they have no competition and the ammount of people playing games is growingwhy is it so hard for people to comprehend?like yes, unless they catastrophically screw up their next 'flagship' game, it will sell about as much or more than elden ring
Elden mid...worst game Fromsoft has ever made...
Spamming the same garbage thread again so soon?https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/728969926/#728969926Kill yourself
well it is manufactured, by fromsoftware
hourly Elden Ring seethe thread? It's been almost 4 years
It hit in an absolute perfect storm situation. Every once in a while a game gets chosen by the YouTube algorithm as "the hard game that normies will play as their chat laughs at them die". You know, flavor of the month stuff like Getting Over It or Chained Together or Only Up or Get to Work.Yes, Elden Ring would have done decently well regardless off of the continued good performance of Souls, but this is what made it a mega-hit.
>>729022680I'm not a souls fan and i suck at Elden Ring but i acknowledge it's a really well made gameit's not like other open world games where the map is mostly emptythere's tiny handcrafted places and secrets in every corner
I finally got around playing it, first run, clocked bout 150 hours on it, killed the elden beast this very past weekend.My first impression was really positive, and exploration was rewarding... at firstOn the snow map I was ble to be maxxed out on my weapon of choice, spirits as well, and my armor set was the same as from 2 maps ago, and it didn't feel as rewarding to get anything or explore anymoreI read that the ending I had was the best and it made me glad, because everything else looked like ballsIt was Frenzied Flame
>>729022916>posts reddit frogOk bud
>>729023641
>>729023846>maxxedgotta avoid injokes like this if you want to come off as a new anon playing a game for the first time.
>>729022916Go back
>>729022680what isn't manufactured is your brainrot
>>729022990I agree, it's a wonderful open world
>first results in google images bitching that non-negative reception is le bad
Sekiro had huge normie appeal. Elden Ring benefited from that.
>>729023269Interesting Now show Echoes of wisdom sales
>>72902466415% of botw's sales? totk at 75% ig.
>>729024894Post it if you're confident then
>>729024948I just did. Use google. The "?" and "ig" are just cause that's what I saw when I looked it up.
>>729024547...What the fuck injoke are you talking about, it's literally trueThe only thing I was missing by the time I got the the snow map is the maxxed common spirit, and that pissed me off, because it should be the other way aroundI should get the Ancient "common" ghost whatever BEFORE the Ancient "special" ghost whateverAlso how the fuck is "maxxed" an injoke
>>729022680it was corona retardnobody had shit to do besides playing doom eternal, the new animal crossing and ER
>>729022680From Soft shit had been growing increasingly popular over the years, with the Souls series becoming known by literally everyone that has ever played a video game by the time Elden Ring came out.
>>729025078*and featuring GRRRM from the defvil may cry seriesprepare to die!
>>729022680
>>729025016Post itHere
>>729025078>IT WAS CORONA RETARD>Lockdowns began in 2020 and ended everywhere by early 2021>Game came out in 2022You sound like a western dev still blaming everything on lockdowns kek
>>729025561idk why you care but okayhttps://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/switch.html
Still funny how hard shazam lost
>>729025561https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2025/250508_4e.pdf
Its like Breath of the wild, its a good game but not a good zelda game.Elden ring is a good game but not a good souls game.
>>729025726>Post Echoes of Wisdom's sales>"Huh? Tears of the kingdom so-">I don't care, I said Echoes of Wisdom. Post that game's sales.>"Tears sold over 20-"Every time
>>729025841Tsk tsk, only 4 mill? My my, and yet it adapted the BotW style for its gameplayHmmm....uh oh!
>>729026060i posted both illiterate retard
>>729022680Open World Dark Souls has been in demand since literally before the Demon's Souls era. Demon's Souls itself was Miyazaki being asked to make an "Oblivion clone" by higher-ups. so it's quite literally full circle in that regard. Too bad investors will never really catch that before blindly pumping Bamco and Fromslop. World's ending so can't really expect adults to make "le smart" financial decisions.
and im posting both because i dont want to fucking deal with getting asked about it afterwards cause the original image was made before either game got released
>>729026306>inb4 my asshttps://www.neogaf.com/threads/bloodborne-4gamer-interview-with-hidetaka-miyazaki-fully-translated.840059/>Miyazaki:>Yeah. At the time, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion was a really big deal, and I think SCE wanted a game similar to that.>From my perspective, though, I didnt think we could compete by taking the same approach as Oblivion, so I wanted to focus more on gameplay elements like battles and exploration, and had to do a lot to convince everyone that a third-person camera was the way to go.
I think that it got pushed by gaming sites hard when they realized how many clicks they could get walking shitters through the game. sure, souls games have had wikis for a long time, but elden ring spawned hundreds of ign/polygon/etc. articles for every tiny little facet of the game, loaded with ads. I think with the success and "hardcore" marketing of the prior souls games sites like that figured that there would be a big enough normalfag audience willing to just try it out purely due to hype around ds3/sekiro and the he GRRM reveal that would have no way completing the game on their own. not saying it wouldn't have done well otherwise but I think it was at least a contributing factor to the wide Internet coverage that made the game even more popular. this is totally just my schizo theory though I have no proof other than what I've witnessed here and on other sites the past few years. money talks
>>729023641It's a terrible open world because there are no mechanics that benefit from it being open world whatsoever, and nothing to find that isn't just another copy/past mini-dungeon or another enemy.
>>729022680Game of Thrones had *just* ended, and that entire reddit-millenial era of "Witcher 3 and Game of Thrones" was about to die out. It's the same reason why everyone glazes cyberpunk despite being *utterly* mid. Elden Ring had George R. R. Martin, back when he was reddit's Gaben.
>>729022680https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/text/%22manufactured%20somehow%22/type/op/why did you repost this obvious false flag
>giant map>great art direction>same successful combat formula now updatedI'd also say it had good marketing with the GRRM thingy. From had been upping the game for a long while. It would be just a matter of time. Ask yourself why Armored Core flopped instead.
>>729022680its the worst game theyve madeunfocused world, sloppy animation and combat. its a few steps away from being a basic hack and slash which Demon Souls and Dark Souls 1 popularized stepping away from.elden ring has some terrible music too. some of it sounds like it belongs in King's Field. i think its success is due to new players not knowing any better, not having the experience to properly judge and following the hype of streamers and media, and the misguided notion that if you are dying you just need to gitgud.... despite the combat actually being terrible this time and your skill almost not mattering. Its the Halo 3 of Souls games.
>>729026849Which is funny considering how highly they promoted him and then his contributions were so thoroughly fucked by Miyazaki's storytelling style that they might as well never have existed.
>>729026849>back when he was reddit's Gaben.this means absolutely nothing, what the fuck
>>729022680Industry plant
>>729027967Gaben was /v/'s GRRM, noob.
>>729026964Is there a rule against this, crybaby?
>forced /manufactured success>forced goty>it has no "atmosphere">"soulless">it insists upon itselfwhat are some other shenanigans /v/ came up with to deny a game's success / enjoyability?
>>729029358>it's a tranny game
>>729022680Dark souls getting popular and they made da biggest dark soulsDuh
>>729029358>Forced soul
>>729028501There is, it's called spamming/flooding and it's right there in the report section
>>729029358>no cultural impact
>>729029840I do not think you know what those two words mean child
>>729029816Forced soul pissed me off so much with the fucking Mario game. First time I'm over a decade we get a Mario title that looks like they put fucking effort into it, and idiots up here just brush it off as "um forced soul heheh"
>>729022680Open world was a shit idea for FromSoft
>>729022680Elden Ring is literally unironically the greatest game ever conceived. I personally cannot think of another game deserving of title.
>>729030882I'm old enough to be your father and I've been here longer than you, so lower your tone and behave unless you really want a 3 day vacation.
>>729031840Are you announcing a you know what? Because that's a rule violation kid
>>729022680Currently playing through it now, and it is indeed phenomenal. Miyazaki's first take on open world and he nailed it.
>>729031375All kino>Demon's Souls>Dark Souls 1>Bloodborne>Sekiro>Elden Ring
>>729029358The story makes 0 sense
>>729022680Completely forgot I bought this during Black Friday. When I get around to playing it in 10 years I'll try to answer your question.
>>729024664I'm playing Echos now and despite the echo UI being dogshit the level design and puzzles are actually decent, limiting open world to "you can explore but the actual plot is one step at a time, each step has a bit of choice but it's still structured" is a good balance between a linear game and BOTW kitchen sink
>>729022680you already made this thread
>>729031923First map is amazing, second map still keeps you engaged, fourth map starts to be a dragBy the fifth map you won't care anymore when you are dropped a really really cool looking set with shitty stats, or a +2 damage scarlet rot damage absorption talisman, or a "2 zombies, with lances" spirit
>>729029358appeal to popularity, slop, snoycattleaka "It being popular actually proves it's bad"
>>729031971Then how about you stay on topic kid before you get hurtDiscuss Elden Ring.
>>729022680Open world attracts normalfags like flies.It's a legitimately amazing game marred by horrific boss battles.
>>729022990i dont give a fuck about the builds if the entire game is so padded out you need dozens of hours to achieve most of themds2, i just pop a bonfire ascetic in the first 30 mins and i get to sl70, elden ring? several hours of horse riding and killing the same defenseless mobs over and over again
>>729032221>First map is amazing, second map still keeps you engaged, fourth map starts to be a drag>By the fifth map you won't care anymore when you are dropped a really really cool looking set with shitty stats, or a +2 damage scarlet rot damage absorption talisman, or a "2 zombies, with lances" spiritTo be fair, this happened with his other masterpieces, Dark Souls and Bloodborne>DaSEverything after Anor Londo>BloodborneEverything after RomEveryone Agreed that the 2nd half is not as good as the first.
>>729032378As souls games go along, they get more and more afraid of players becoming too confident or satisfied, so they keep getting arbitrarily harder to the detriment of common sense.And it will be defended so long as it "filters casuals".
>>729022680Giant's Flame Take Thee is my favorite spell in Elden RingRecommend me a good action RPG please, I'm so fucking tired of Elden Ring.
>>729032029It doesn't. I like the game but the story makes no sense.
>>729032467>Everyone Agreed that the 2nd half is not as good as the first.If "everyone agrees" then it's probably wrong, because stupid people are the majority.Izalith is the only bad area post-Anor Londo.Bloodborne remains excellent from start to finish.
>>729032378I have no idea what compels you to lie so much but here we go to four more years of malding about ER.
>>729032606>Bloodborne remains excellent*consistent, bloodborne is shit throughout its entirety so it gets the pass from most bitch ass niggas>>729032643there's nothing to lie about, out of my 100 hours with the game i've enjoyed maybe like 5, the rest was torrent sprint spam and loading screens
>>729031375>I personally cannot think of another game deserving of title.Dark Souls 1BloodborneDark Souls 3All better games.>>729032221>>729032467Liurnia is a fucking terrible map and Academy is easily the worst legacy dungeon in the game, so you can't even really call the first half of the game good.
>>729032770>bloodborne is shit throughout its entiretyOpinion discarded. Nothing you say matters anymore. You just flushed any trust people will have in you.
>>729032770>there's nothing to lie aboutExactly, so why do you insist on doing that when everyone and their mother know things like Greyoll or early Mohg's palace farming are a thing?
>Anon tells me to jump more than roll because it's more effective in ER>Start trying it>Get hit far more often.>Go back to rolling.fuck you faggot. Jumping sweeps gets me killed.
All the clout dark souls built up over the years from "little hardcore game for hardcore gamers such as myself" (whether or not that was ever true is irrelevant to perception) to the mainstream + open world.Both those timings were right on. It's From at the height of their building cultural relevance and open world slop right at the height of its cultural relevance.
>>729032785Crumbling farum azula is miles worse, all exploration and 7633 paths are useless as there's no useful rewards anymoreAt least you can use shit you find in the Academy at that point
>>729032847i've dropped a truke i'm afraid, it's a downgrade in every single way compared to previous souls games, base game is genuine dogshit idk about the dlc but the game was sucked off since launch and for no real reasongood visuals don't make for a good game
>>729032770>>729032847>>729032606DeS and BB aged the best and it's not even close>Demon's Souls & Bloodborne were both collaborations between FROM Software & SIE Japan (Sony's internal studios)>Completely self-contained and complete games>Extremely memorable. Everyone remembers Tower of Latria, Valley of Defilement, Yharnam City, Forbidden Woods, Fishing Hamlet>tfw we'll never get another FROM Software & SIE Japan collaboration game again>Miyazaki wants to collaborate with Nintendo now
>>729033209Nintendo has objectively more creative game designers than Sony tho
>>729032872>early Mohg's palace farmingBeats me everytime I read those wordsI can undertand "farming" root rrsin or killing sheepsFarming runes seem like tryharding the gameI can even understand farming runes to SELL them to tryhardsBut for your run? Jesus christ you don't even need it
>>729033104>all exploration and 7633 paths are useless as there's no useful rewards anymoreOh yeah, no useful rewards at all outside of you know the Ancient Dragon Prayerbook, Somber+Ancient Dragonstones, Beastman's CS/GCS, the Dragoncrest Shield Talisman+2, Shard of Alexander...
>>729033104>Crumbling farum azula is miles worseIt's fine though? Contains the game's only fun dragon fights and the mobs are generally intelligently placed. It's not my favorite but for a late game legacy dungeon it's solid.>as there's no useful rewards anymoreI mean outside of arguably the best talisman in the game.
Can we as a society admit horizontal progression is garbage? 900+ bullshit spells/weapons/items/etc. and they're *all* mid. You could shrink it down to 10 items and lose basically nothing.
marketing
>>729033373If a rabid DS2 faggot lies and says you can't get to high RL as fast as DS2 it doesn't matter whether it's tryharding or not
>>729032559Google
>>729022680I read a post on here once that rang pretty true. Normalfags have it in their heads that open world video games are "infinite" somehow, and when you couple this with the fact that people by and large do not finish video games, then you have people who want to explore the open world, and then they get bored eventually and move on. >>729033209They're all great to be desu because they all lack an open world. Even Nightreign is better than Elden Ring despite owing its existence to it. Elden Ring is a Souls game where the developers thought>Hmmm, between all the interesting content, what if there was boring bullshit???????
>>729033209Sony's japanese teams were all taken out back and shot. You can't put that humpty dumpty back together again.
>>729033376All useless the game is literally over 20min laterIf you say you actually really need the +10 hp blocked damage crutch to beat the game you are just lyingYou don't even notice the granular shit at this point the game is fucking over nigger
>dlc sales got lower and lower Uh oh
>>729032559Just play Nightreign.
>>729033209Miyazaki realized Nintendo is superior
>>729033689Nightreign sold less than Elden Ring because it's not an open world game. Everything is fine. Game's addicting as hell, and it's a shame there probably won't be any dlc for a good long while.
>>729033687>All useless the game is literally over 20min laterThe game is so nonlinear this is patently, obnoxiously false
>>729033623>>729033694Not beating the "Fromsoft fanboys only play Fromsoft games" allegations, I see.
>>729033840Yep.
>>729033689Nightreign isn't DLC, it's an entirely different game where everything is on a timer and it focuses on the worst parts of the game (boss fights).
>>729033913>(boss fights).Isn't this what people wanted? The levels themselves were considered filler and DS3 encouraged you to run past enemies
>>729033530>if you finish some obscure questline you can reach a late-game location after several hours of playtime to farm some runes ;)not my point. i don't enjoy 99% of what elden ring is, and by this i mean eventless horse traversaldark souls 2 understood what i am about, action is the juice for me
>>729034032>DS3 encouraged you to run past enemiesI also hate leveling up
>>729033398>I mean outside of arguably the best talisman in the game.>i really REALLY need my 13% phys reduction! I can't live with 10% phys reduction!You niggers are just showing how bad you are, or how retarded, i don't even notice the granularityIf you notice you are just placebo lying to yourself "wow it's actually infinitely better!"It's literally marginally better
>>729033471fromdrones only know mid.
>>729034032Why you gotta bring up DS3 when Elden Ring had checkpoints at boss gates.
>>729033830Now i know you are trolling
>>729034297You can ignore the Consecrated Snowfields, the Lithurgical Town, and Miquella's Haligtree all the way until you defeat Godfrey.
>>729034073>i don't enjoy 99% of what elden ring is, and by this i mean eventless horse traversalGood thing that's not what happens in ER.>dark souls 2 understood what i am aboutDogshit combat in empty, ugly corridors, I guess
>>729034032>The levels themselves were considered fillernobody ever said that
>>729034073>>729034449DS2 mechanics copied into DS3 and ER:-estus shards/bone shards (seeds and tears in ER) and instead of kindling to buff your heal-effigy/ember/rune arc to restore max HP or get a stat buff-casting magic also consumes stamina to limit perpetual spamming of quick spells-fastroll and midroll have the same animation, but under 30% gives you far more roll length-multi direction rolls while locked on-midroll up to 70% weight-backstab has a 2 way confirmation via an extra grab animation-parry frames at the apex of the swing-infusions separate from upgrade levels-reasonable poise/hyperarmor levels meant for trades with fast weapons, not tanking greatclubs or giant bosses-4 ring slots (plus rebalanced rings so more niche effects aren't just ignored like DS1 where everyone used Havel's and FAP)-ultra/colossal weapons unpariable when 2H unless it's a rolling/running attack-jumping attacks on all weapons unpariable-guardbreak allows for a riposte-blue sentinels to save hosts from reds-limited respec-longer messages with 2 phrase structure-canceling gestures with a rollER added even more things from DS2:-rolling in poison covers you-rolling in water gives you 20% fire resistace and -20 lightning resistance-lots of gear, armors, talismans etc that changes your statsDS2 became the masterprint for the core mechanics and balance of of a souls game.
>>729034449>Good thing that's not what happens in ER.That's definitely what happens in Elden Ring. Horse traversal, role playing, and repeated locations aren't interesting enough to make the horse travel interesting in any way.
>>729034297You can literally ignore 80% of the game to get to Farum Azula, all you need to get there is>Kill two rune bearers of your choice to unlock the gates to the capital>Kill Morgott>Reach the fire giant and kill itEverything else is wholly optional, this also doesn't include NG+ when it comes to your previous nonsensical statement
>>729033913But the worst part of ER was the open world slop
>>729034105Shard of Alexander you retard.>b-but you can just murder jar bro early for a worse version of itlmao at any impulsive retard that did that.
>>729034372Nigga you kill the last boss in cfa and the end is literally right there afterYou don't have a point just for saying "oh Ietme get back to the goblin cave and really really explore every cm of that first map agan..."The game is two bosses away from being over you backtracking all you want doesn't change that
My brother in law bought it because of the hype and dropped it after two hours because he didn't get it/was too hardI imagine there were a lot of other normies like him
>>729034565>DS2 became the masterprint for the core mechanics and balance of of a souls game.And it was still a shitty game because most of those things were implemented terribly and the game's content itself was trash.>>729034579The horse travel is much better than walking through the same tired empty corridors where you can't even jump above waist-high obstacles.But given how you prefer going through dogshit like DS2's areas and bosses there's really no arguing here, you just have a terminal case of dogshit taste that luckily isn't shared among the general populace
>>729034824>Nigga you kill the last boss in cfa and the end is literally right there afterYes I played the game.>You don't have a point just for saying "oh Ietme get back to the goblin cave and really really explore every cm of that first map agan..."We aren't talking about a goblin cave. We're taking about a large, if dogshit area in the Consecrated Snowfields. The gimmick Lithurgical Town which is equal parts frustrating and funny. And then a genuine double whammy area in Miquella's Haligtree and Elphael.
>>7290226801. Each game has pulled in more new fans.2. They slapped GRRM's name on it.3. It had commercials during big sporting events.That's it.
>>729034995>The horse travel is much better than walking through the same tired empty corridors where you can't even jump above waist-high obstacles.We aren't talking about that or this, we're talking about videogames that you play for your own enjoyment in your free time. Riding a horse through empty fields with no random encounters, lived-in towns and villages or engaging horse combat is not fun. It's boring as shit. And Elden Ring is boring as shit.
When did elden ring fall apart?>After Limgrave >After Liurnia>After Capital
>>729034995>The horse travel is much better than walking through the same tired empty corridors where you can't even jump above waist-high obstacles.It's not. I enjoy purposeful level design in my video games, likely as a result of having played games with intentional level design all throughout my life. Grand Theft Auto and its clones were always outliers; they're a different kind of video game. I don't enjoy going from intentional level design, and then I have a boring open world with no real roleplay, repeated locations, and the horse travel itself being dull and one note. There's also the fact that despite Torrent having chosen us, he has no character. I'd appreciate it if you didn't insult me. You're smart enough to know how to have a conversation. You're also smart enough to know what I'm talking about. If From Software wasn't going to have an interesting open world, and they didn't, then I'd rather Elden Ring were just a traditional Souls game. Thankfully, Elden Ring is the perfect skeleton for a better game. I actually WANT Elden Ring 2 with shit to do in the open world and no repeated assets. A man can dream.
>>729035138>Riding a horse through empty fields with no random encounters, lived-in towns and villages or engaging horse combat is not fun.There's plenty of enemy encounters and various locations for you to find while running around, in fact the game is literally littered with that stuff to the point Torrent itself is a technicality because you'll have to dismount him every two minutes or so because there's something to do.Maybe Witcher 3 is more of your speed.
>>729035240>I'd appreciate it if you didn't insult me. You're smart enough to know how to have a conversation. You're also smart enough to know what I'm talking about. If From Software wasn't going to have an interesting open world, and they didn't, then I'd rather Elden Ring were just a traditional Souls game. Thankfully, Elden Ring is the perfect skeleton for a better game. I actually WANT Elden Ring 2 with shit to do in the open world and no repeated assets. A man can dream.There's nothing saying they can't make another DeS or DaS style game using ER's engine and gameplay as a foundation. The games iterate on each other.>DeS>DaS>BB>DS3>ER
>>729034614>>729034797I linearly played the whole game, crumbling farum azula was at the end, and holded no surprises nor anything useful for me.I don't care about your ability to read the wiki, go there first, and use the super duper things (that by that point I didn't need) to play the rest of the gameYou will be just making irrelevant some other part of the game nigger>Now that I have cleared the rest of the game with my super duper things, I can finally go back and clear Caelid for the first time...Said this niggas hereAmeba brains literallyJesus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qleU3WZtiFM
>>729035240>I enjoy purposeful level design in my video gamesThen why do you play FROM's games since level design has always been an afterthought?>There's also the fact that despite Torrent having chosen us, he has no character.Are you seriously saying a fucking ghost donkey should be a "character"?In a FROM game?People insult you because you're a midwit, if you can't stand that then you have to grow up and change that.
>>729034831>Normies just buy stuff off of command of the public perception Jesus it's worse than I thought
>>729022680Easily one of the biggest games ever and FromSoftware’s boldest yet. Huge map, stunning graphics, a solid story, and honestly, the marketing was pretty good too.
>>729035189Whatever zone you get first the +10 spirit of choice and +25 weapon of choice.Everything after that starts to be a chore
>>729035189After the credits
>>729035138 You're acting like the only options are either Skyrim-tier NPC towns every 20 feet or total void. Elden Ring sits in between-it’s designed to feel desolate and ruined because that’s the lore. There’s always something weird just off in the distance-a random dragon drop, a cave, a mini-dungeon, whole ass underground cities. If you weren't zig-zagging like a meth head with a compass, you probably missed a ton of it. Not every game needs to spoon-feed you distractions every 5 seconds.And horse combat not engaging? Lmao, jousting tree spirits at 60 mph doesn’t get your blood pumping? Sounds like a skill issue, boss.
>>729035265TW3 has literally the exact same open world formula but without the map marks lmao, somehow if you force people to use Fextralife instead of in-built mechanics you get a pass when creating a boring open world
>>729035378>Too stupid for ER questslmao
>>729035742>TW3 has literally the exact same open world formulaIt doesn't, for starters because TW3 has towns, the lack of which you whined about when it comes to ER.At least try to be consistent with your shitposting.
>>729035648As I said, you're smart enough to have a conversation, and now you're choosing not to. Have a good day, anon. We'll never speak again.
>>729022680It is just marketing you dumbass The game isnt better than other From titles, but they successfully ran a campaign with it as the biggest game of the year (we also have this GOT old man guys!) a bunch of streamers, vtubers etc also jumped on that ship for easy clout, then even more normies were attached to it even though 99% of these people never cared and only did it because it was the current popular thing (look at how many of them said muh first From game lmao) I know this place is full of miserable contrarians and retards so you may miss it, but that is how normies function, they just follow the trend like a herd of sheep, listening to that ‘important guy’ words, never having to form their own opinion
>>729035883Formula, not design.
>>729035679>a solid storyWhat the flying fuckWhat storyMarika (for some unexplained reason) is not in the world anymore, kinda like the avatar, but she's also remarried to herself and now that you are collecting that thingys she broke (for some unexplained reason) she wants to stop you because... huhm i must leave this planet
>>729035919Jesus you're the same moron from before, I should have known.
>>729022680Ranni sexo
>>729036006You have no idea what either mean, because ER's open world has nothing in common with TW3's open world outside of both games having a mount.
>>729036176And mind-numbing content to go through unless you lower the difficulty (in the case of Elden Ring, it's spirit ashes, not settings)
>>729022916>this game is goodprove it!>it sold wellappeal to popularity>it reviewed well among players and criticsappeal to majority>renowned developers praised itappeal to authority>it won multiple awardsappeal to authority>it's good for reasons A, B, and Cthat's just your opinion, all taste is subjective!>here are objective technical merits: stable framerate, responsive controls, no game-breaking bugsbare minimum doesn't make it good>it has innovative mechanicsappeal to novelty>it refined established mechanics perfectlyso it's not even original?>it has broad appeal across demographicsappeal to popularity (again)>it has a dedicated fanbaseappeal to minority then>it's been culturally influential, other games copied itbandwagon fallacy>it hasn't been copied, it's completely uniqueargument from incredulity - just because YOU can't think of similar games>millions of hours of player engagementappeal to tradition/sunk cost>it achieves its design goals coherentlycircular reasoning - you're defining "good" as meeting its own goals>fine, what would convince you it's good?that's shifting the burden of proof
>>729036251>And mind-numbing content to go throughThat's all single player videogames out there, unless you really want to make a case for shit like Lost Izalith, Lost Bastille or Farron Woods
>>729036341each of them is like 3 minutes long, Elden Ring is 10 hours on NG+.
>>729036295If all of that is true, then it is a good game
>>729022680Look I get the Discord troon squad shitting on the game pre-release and some time after release but what compels someone to continue to shit on a game that has already won? There is not even a minuscule chance of your smear campaign succeeding, it is literally zero.
>>729036440>each of them is like 3 minutes longI wish.>Elden Ring is 10 hours on NG+.And out of those 10 hours 7 are optional, I fail to see how that's bad, meanwhile in something like DS3 you have to go through all those dogshit levels every single time.
>>729036490probably, but that doesn't mean you'll convince anyone here either way. This place is just for people to insult each other endlessly
>>729036152Based
>>729036574Anon he literally just asks a question He even says ER is a great game in the OP
>>729036785This dogshit bait thread is a repost of a previous dogshit bait thread, nothing about it is honest or in good faith
>>729036586Well duh, nta but convincing other anons here over sth subjective must be the most retarded thing, they are usually rage baiting too and do not want to engage with opened mindYou can only point out objective lies, which they usually use for their obvious baits
>>729032770>out of my 100 hours with the game i've enjoyed maybe like 5lmfao
>>729022680It's not, it's the formula for a successful widely appealing game. It's got fantasy, exploration, exposition, and a create a mode. Different weapons and ways to play. And it's scenic enough to actually take time to explore and make up your own lore. It didn't have to be a Fromsoft title to be successful with that formula, but it definitely greatly helped. The people coming here to hate on this game are only doing so because of the company. If this had been a release from some unheard of new player to the game, it would have been celebrated as a massive success and competitor to Souls games. Ultimately, the opinion of some very angry posters don't matter. People will play this, and Nightreign, and when something new comes out they will move on to that.
>>729036578so what, if i were to like DS3 i would be able to stand the swamp levels, if i were to like ER i would be able to stand what, 90% of the game being absolutely fucking nothing? but i'm not fucking cattle that puts up with shit tier content in my vidya.and i'm being generous here. it's more like 99%.>>729036892nothing to laugh at. 40 hours for my first run, 60 hours for my with guide for platinum run. i devoted my time for this game. i tried to understand it.
>>729037081you're hilarious
>>729037135this is 4chan i don't give a fuck about being perceived
>>729033689Is nightreign worth buying, if the plan is play solo? I heard the gank squad they added with the DLC is miserable solo
>>729037081>but i'm not fucking cattle that puts up with shit tier content in my vidya.You like DS2 so this is patently untrue
>>729037523solo is not fun, everything is designed around having other peopleyou *can* solo it, in fact i recommend trying it out after you've gotten your bearings and you're comfortable with bosses, but some characters also aren't viable solo (recluse comes to mind) and it's overall a more frustrating experience
Do I get cookie points if I played and beat the game in 130 hours... but completely offline?I only check the wiki for npcs locations, they tend to move to random places, and more than twice, to places I have already cleared, that's something I didn't like about the game
>>729033471Incorrect, faggot. Go back to your path of exile/diablo slop where every item is replaced till the endgame where everyone has the same body armour and same sword, fuck off.Horizontal progression is why From's games are huge. Everything you find has value and is useable instead of cookie cutter dogshit linear progression to make the player feel 'powaful' it's fucking lame and gay and it's why dragon dogma ultimately sucks dick because every sword you find is just more damage than the other one and the game essentially deletes it's own content by the end of the game.
>>729022680it was a disappointment, but the cowards who were too afraid to play the past games were easily impressed by it
>>729037594I love DS2.
This is what e33 fags are doing now lol
>>729022680just cuz normie like the " open world " buzz word and er was easier to get in to and your first souls game would be your favorite just cuz it's the first one
>>729037756Once I found a weapon I like in elden ring, it already deleted all FUTURE weapons, as there's little currency to actively improve several weaponsSo if I'm doing a str run, that's it, 50% of the dex weapons are uselessThey are very shiny tho!
>>729037756Notice how your "le based" argument completely falls apart when koreaslop like cosmetics and transmog and dyes are added. horizontal "progression" is just fashionslop disguised as content.
>>729037523Just pirate it, especially since you want to solo
It was amazing
>>729037756>has value and is useableYou probably changed your complete gear like, twice in the whole gameBy the end you'll have 100 different sets and will use 2.3 at best
>>729043681Man shut up you miserable twat
>>729022680Greatest game of all time, easily.
We had this exact thread yesterday and the OP is nearly word for word.>>728969926
>>729045070>We had this exact thread yesterday and the OP is nearly word for word.4chan has always been like that
>>729045070>>729028501
>>729022680Are you 12? Games that stay consistent and have cultural impact gain increasing popularity every release until the bubble bursts and it stops being niche. It happened to every massively popular franchise. Especially Nintendo ones.
>>729022680>God of Snoy seethe thread #38524
>>729045898? I'm not seething, just curious
>>729022680GRRM's name was slapped on it. And GoT is like the ultra popular HBO TV show. So the game was promoted to that entire audience.
>>729044864>Greatest game of all time, easily.It's up there>Dragon Quest 3>Link to the Past>Super Mario World>Ocarina of Time>Super Mario 64>FF7>Resident Evil Remake >RE4>Shadow of the Colossus >Twilight Princess>Demon's Souls>Bloodborne>Dark Souls 3>Breath of the Wild>Elden Ring
>>729046794>Dragon Quest 3Correct>Link to the PastLink's Awakening is better>Super Mario WorldCorrect>Ocarina of TimeCorrect>Super Mario 64Correct>FF7Correct>Resident Evil RemakeCorrect>RE4Correct>Shadow of the ColossusCorrect>Twilight PrincessFuck no>Demon's SoulsDark Souls is better>BloodborneFuck no>Dark Souls 3Fuck no>Breath of the WildCorrect>Elden RingCorrect
>>72903629510/10 post
>>729046913Hey cutie, free tonight?
>>729037523Solo is advanced difficulty, you can do all the content with solo but it's hard if you don't know what you're doing. If you get it just play with random, most people that are still playing are at least decent at the game.
>>729037756TRVTHNVKE
>>729022680>Why was this game so successful?Reddit.
