jeet fatigue

i dont even know what bazza is

windows 10 still works on my machine

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what if bazzite takes all of my izzat?

>>729032117
New windows changes is throttling PC hardware. Performance in games is down significantly because of the OS. Windows is increasingly adding more spyware to use the data toward their AI projects, of which is responsible for a majority of new windows code base resulting in it being glitchier and buggier than anything we've seen since shit like Vista or ME.
Swapping out of windows unironically boosts performance by something insane like 20% these days.

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>>729032117
Windows is commiting suicide and people don't want to go down with the ship.
The only people who don't understand this are jeets, sharteens and Microsoft marketers.

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BAZZSISTERS, WE HECKIN' WON!

I don't know why Bazz's shite is so well regarded. I had less trouble with a few of the default applications on KDE plasma on something like cachyOS or just Fedora than this. I'd understand going full atomic if it was stable enough but I don't see why recommend something like this when eventually some Windows tourist is going to stumble upon something broken like the record desktop function in Spectacle and find out webm files come out empty.

I switched to linux because W11 is so fucking bad at my job. Problem is I switched to Mint which I was told was retardproof and I keep getting weird issues with Steam/proton. Whats the best distro for both gaming and general use that just werks?

>>729033442
Turns out being immutable makes your distro pretty resilient

>dude just use linux its all open source and free!
>million different versions
>none of them as good as windows
>many outdated
>ones that get constant updates often break shit and need constant fixes
>still no support for major functions like HDMI 2.1

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD HOW DO I SWITCH?? WINDOWS IS GAY AS FUCK AND I DON'T WANT 11

Bazzite and Fedora derivatives in general is fucking shit though. There's no reason to not install Arch or Debian instead

>>729033651
Does it support Displayport? If so, why would you even want HDMI 2.1?

>>729033551
Fedora, Suse Tumbleweed or Endevour (Arch with an installer)

>>729033695
I'd never trust anything fedora based for anything serious as the core is still just a testbed for red hat.

I'm switching to Linux the second Wangblows 10 loses support or the next time I need to reformat, whichever comes first. The only reason I haven't already done it is that I'm pretty much retarded when it comes to /g/ stuff beyond what I'd consider the basics of using an OS and common sense, so I'm hoping the more I kick the can the further along the retard-proof distros get.

>>729033551
CachyOS, i.e. Arch with hand holding

>>729032117
I'm tired of windows bricking my computer. It's slowly eaten away at my ssd space, fps and every update fucks up my laptop keyboard beyond repair

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>>729033787

>>729033787
>Wangblows 10 loses support
It lost support 2 months ago.

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>>729033651
>HDMI 2.1 what tha-
>Oh
Nice, wonderful, totally not sabotage.

>>729032117
Windows 11 is trash. If Microsoft admited it.

>>729032117
>Bazz
Concordsisters, it’s NOT over

I have 4 years before Windows 10 support gets dropped, by then Windows 11 will be usable once microsoft jeets get wrangled to work on windows 12 and stop fucking with 11. Plus further debloat by the community. That's why Windows 10 is usable now, and that's why win7 was usable by the end. Everyone seems to forget how fucked win7 was at the start or how bad the updates got by the end before the debloatening.

no reason to go play the linux minigame and have to fix shit every time I want to try something new or deal with the mandatory 10 hours of work to make basic shit like my sound equipment work properly.

>>729033936
10 LTSC 2021 is still supported until 2027
10 IoT LTSC 2021 is still supported until 2032

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What causes an anon to vehemently defend Windows 11? Is it stockholm syndrome?

>>729032117
>thousands
you dont hate journos enough

>>729033936
Works on my machine.

>>729034154
They will just roll out it to everyone, they have to if they want to keep marketshare

Tried bazzite for a bit. Enjoyed it but Didn't like that it was immutable.
Swapped to mint and have been coasting ever since

>>729034197
That and being paid to do it. There is literally brownoid shills here.

>>729034085
>Everyone seems to forget how fucked win7 was at the start
I don't remember any of that, I remember Windows 7 being very stable at launch.

>>729034085
>i-i-it'll be fixed
by who
it's getting vibecoded and both the shareholders and the ceo approve of AI shit and all the people that made previous windowses good are long gone
windows isn't even 10% of microsoft's revenue

>>729033705
TVs don't have displayport. If you want to have a living room pc, you're sol

>>729033705
My guess is disabling DSC on a high refresh rate/resolution monitor.
Some higher end monitors (OLED and the like) support HDMI 2.1b but are stuck on DP 1.4.
This means that in order to use DP, DSC must be enabled. HDMI 2.1b doesn't get cucked as much with DSC disabled.
However from my testing on both nvidia and AMD on a 360hz OLED, nvidia is cucked no matter what, because even though it supports HDMI 2.1b unlike AMD, it's broken with high refresh rates + VRR. And on AMD, even though it doesn't support 2.1b, using Displayport 1.4 is enough to drive 1440p 360hz with both VRR enabled -and- a 10bit output (HDR). So at the end of the day that particularly does not matter.
I don't know however what the limit of DP 1.4 under display compression is. Maybe HDMI 2.1b can still achieve more with its higher bandwidth.

BAZZITE IZZITE RRRIZZITE

>>729034197
There are shills and bots here paid and made to defend and push corporate garbage here. Just look at what happened to the Stop Killing Games threads.

>>729032117
I dont want to have to crawl through winblows to look at videogame ass

>>729034285
>immutable
this is only bad for smart people right?
I don't need to fuck with system files in linux if I'm retarded?

>>729032117
Why is "Windows is breaking everything and forcing people to use things nobody wants" a "surprisingly" compelling reason? Should be a no-brainer.

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bazzed
the devs should unironically adopt the bazz meme

Today I was thinking of doing a btrfs + xfs but I remember older games on linux disliking xfs. Did that ever change?

>>729033662
Install Linux Mint on a separate drive, keep Windows 10 for whatever absolutely requires it, and be free. Mint literally just works and I will keep recommending it to everyone who wants to try out Linux.

>>729032117
I didn't install Bazzite but I did install Zorin. I've used Windows since 1999 when I got my first PC, the final straw was the KH6B update killing two of my 2TB SSDs right as everything went up in price.

Fuck Windows. I only swap over to it now to play BF6 with my friend.

>>729032117
Windows 11 is a bloated mess made by jeets and AI to extract as much data out of the user as physically possible while shoving ads in your face, Linux is shit but it's the best we have (macOS is for fags btw)

>because of certain anti-cheat, linux still cant run some games
>the anti-cheat still doesnt stop cheating

>>729034273
Roll out what?

>>729033936
ESU.

>>729032753
it's like based but in slavic

>>729034563
>Linux is shit but it's the best we have

Which version? I was told Mint was the best to have something closest to windows, but it turns out its best used on older systems and not suitable for new hardware.

>>729034389
If you the kind of person that uses game mods that require you to do more than "place this file in this folder", then it's a fucking headache.

>>729034564
It's always the fucking retarded logic of devs:
>"No, Linux is full of cheaters and therefore you can't play because we can't have kernel-level access"
>ban Linux users
>barely a dent is made in overall cheating

>>729034085
>by then Windows 11 will be usable
Lol. Lmao.

>>729034389
it’s bad if you want to even just install programs because it forces you to use appimages/flatpaks. at least that’s how it is on steamos. dunno about bazzite

>>729034085
You have to have brain damage if you think 11 will ever get fixed. Nobody competent works at Microsoft anymore.

>>729032753
baza means based

>"dude THOUSANDS are switching!"

>check steam stats for OS
>less than 1% rise in Loonux users compared to 97% windows market share

hahahahaha linux trannies are delusional and coping as usual

>>729034389
Ideally, if it was stable and everything worked fine with maybe the caveat being not having extremely up to date software and hardware support, sure.
Problem with Bazzite is eventually you'll have to do the troubleshooting you'll need elsewhere, which involves said fucking with system files, which will be more annoying in this particular case.
You're putting an extra layer of shit between you and the system to ensure that in the event things work right for you, you're in good hands. The problem is this weird fucking assumption some people have that "it just works" for everyone because "it just works" for them.
One of the reasons people go for Arch derivatives these days is that the wiki is extensive and full of relevant information and troubleshooting tips. So if you're going to come across an issue every now and then anyways, you might as well go through the path of least resistance.

>>729034751
Want to know how the linux = cheaters shit is bs?
>Apex Legends drew ire last year as it cut all Linux client support and you can only play it on windows.
>Their reason?
>"All the cheaters are on Linux"
>All the cheat creators say on their forums/discords that their biggest clientele are Windows users
>Apex under fire again this year
>Despite now being only on Windows, the cheating stats have gone UP
>No evidence there were ever cheaters on Linux
>EA doubles down and says cheating is being dealt with

I genuinely think MS pays these devs to discredit Linux and keep their games exclusive to Windows.

>>729032117
>Bazzite
Didn't they just recently kick off one of their devs because someone got their feelings hurt on discord?

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>>729034564
here's the retardation apex legends used to pretend that it worked
they banned it at the beginning of november last year and mysteriously instead of it being a big spike downwards it was a slow curve

Thousands? Probably more in the hundreds. Nobody cares about this shit.

>>729034154
What is that?

FUCK OFF
WE ARE FULL

>>729034197
>Vastly used program by majority of world population that just works
Vs
>Niche shit program that has problems with compatibility, drivers, games, and peripherals that require weird extensive work around all for it to mess up again a week later

You delusional faggots are insane. No one is vehemently defending windows, theyre just tired of you faggots crying about your shitty OS
Literally the vegans and trannies of the computer world

i have 16 gb of ram, there's only 2 slots for ram on my mb, i don't want to take out a loan

Isnt Windows 10 already getting shit on by some new games and software/hardware requiring W11?

Isnt TPM 2.0 W11 only, and required for some things now?

>>729033705
dp2.0 still isn't widely supported, hdmi 2.1 is the best most graphics cards and displays have to offer

>>729034564
It really comes from a place of profound retardation. Or there's an ulterior motive since in most cases these are kernel level tools.
This dumbfuckery isn't exclusive to gaming. Productivity software developers all over still hold this idea that linux is not worth the trouble. An example of this is RAW image processors, there's like 13 of these commercial fuckers out there still going with the old "maybe we'll take it in consideration at some point, but this would take many years, developing the application from zero, for like 2 customers". Some of these programs could run without issues through a compatibility layer if they put a little effort. Affinity V3, recently released for free, works pretty well on linux already if you have an nvidia GPU, and I'm sure as fuck they could figure out AMD OpenCL support if they put a few fucking hours into it.

>>729033787
>I'm switching to Linux the second Wangblows 10 loses support
That pretty much has already happened, dude. And if you mean LTSC then you're savvy enough to migrate to linux already.

>>729032117
which jewtuber promoted bazzite
gamers don't just randomly switch operating systems

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>>729032117
Windows is becoming slower and consumer both more space and memory due to services. In addition, the brand new Co-Pilot, which is installed into new Windows11 users, is already passively eating 12GBs of RAM and 100GBs of your HDD while you cannot uninstall it due to being forcedly rooted into your Windows. Windows10 season support and its firewall shut down next year, while many cannot upgrade to Windows11 due to it only accepting systems with CPUs above 10th Gen Inteal or Zen2 AMD onwards.

Due to these issues, gamers are now installing Linux systems, mostly Mint, Ubuntu and mostly Bazzite also due to the rising popularity of the SteamOS from the Steam Deck and Legion Go, which such OS is basically Linux Bazzite with Steam + Steam Deck compatibility.

Windows: Where the Gamers Play

>>729032117
Bazzite is so fucking bad. You can't do fucking shit with it. Endeavor is the smarter option

>>729035598
goyim*

>>729034389
It's bad for the smart people that make troubleshooting guides on the internet for the rest of the retards to follow.

>>729035658
Why choose Endeavour over Cachy?
Genuine question not shitting

>>729035701
Gamers

>>729035806
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I never used cachy.

>>729035570
>turn on my laptop
>11/16 GB used
How does this even happen?
If I switch, will I have RAM for use? Even web browsers take multiple gigs these days. Everything is do fucking bloated I just can't

>>729033937
HDMI 2.1 is truly a shitshow

>>729035895
We've been warning you to switch to displayport for a decade now. PROPRIETARY PLUG TECHNOLOGY is fucking retarded

my efi partition is too small to dual boot and I don't dare to delete windows

>>729035952
Tell that to TV manufacturers.

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>>729035864
Steam, Discord, Firefox, open and playing music on my toaster debian laptop.

I was going to make it my 2026 resolution to switch to something like Cachy OS, but I don't haved striped kneesocks. How integral to the experience are they really?

How is SteamOS as an OS?
Usable or meme?

I've been using Nobara and I haven't really had any issues besides VR still being a janky piece of shit, but I'm still on a GTX 1080 and probably need to switch to AMD very soon.

>>729035109
+5 izzat deposited

>>729036331
it's a vehicle for valve hardware and nothing else even if it comes to desktop
you update when valve wants you to update

>>729032753
it's based on bazz from concord. or I guess you could say bazzed

>>729035109
>vegans
lol the tendie is defending microsoft

>>729036424
>probably need to switch to AMD very soon.
You'll need to upgrade to something. 10-series drivers are in maintenance mode.

>>729034197
Wherever you go, most people don't give a fuck about the OS itself. They care about what they can run and use without issues most of the time. They'll run into issues and hate Windows, but whatever workarounds most people need are easy to use. If they want to use a program, with very few exceptions it's there to use. Download .exe, install, done. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.
The level of tolerance some people have to losing access to certain software or having to spend extra time learning a different workflow varies a lot. Most people do not want to change that. If they have to do something today they're not going to have the time required to learn new nomenclature. Even if they're able to process their work faster because of increased performance or whatever, RAM not being hogged maybe, more CPU cycles, whatever, part of the speed comes from having already learned exactly what the fuck to do, so you're removing that. Cool now it takes longer.
Linux users themselves already experience trouble with this. GNOME for instance is very controversial because without extensions it's a whole different fucking ordeal. It takes an extra step to do certain things. Oh now this shit that you had a button for needs a keyboard shortcut because the developers thought it was distracting. Things like that. The way that some linux users treat GNOME is no different from the way some windows users treat linux as a whole.
Think about the fact that everytime a new Windows release comes out, people stay on the previous one, not just because of controversial additions, but because they suddenly change something or remove something. Now I can't make the icons smaller. Now I can't change the taskbar. These buttons are not in the same place. These things don't work the exact same. These are actually small changes. It's not the magnitude of change that linux requires from your average chap. And they already bitch and moan. So what do you actually expect?

>>729036641
Yeah I just figure AMD seems to be better in the long run for Linux, especially with Steam Deck/Machine/Frame using it.

>>729032117
my windows pc broke before the cops lawfared me and i have not been able to get it to boot for 3 years
i just tried linux on it and it booted microsoft sucks balls lmao
>>729033783
my aunts at redhat company was eaten by ibm do not engage with them
ibms the devil
sad cuz red hat was cool

>>729036654
gnome is hated because it looks and works like a fucking phone interface

>>729036760
I don't think you ever used GNOME. Not even 2.

>>729032117
oh snap, new FOTM distro dropped?!

>>729036760
works for Apple

>>729032117
Microsoft has legitimately not made a good decision about their operating system in 10 years, all the AI implementation and spyware have bogged the operating system down so hard that in many cases you actually get better performance running "Windows only" apps and games on Linux through a compatibility layer, all of the worst UX decisions they have made either can't be changed or turned off at all, and if you can it's often in registry editor and gets reset every time you do a system upgrade, they are attempting to force everyone off of Windows 10 even though 11's new "security" requirements prevent many people from upgrading without buying a new system or replacing their motherboards.

Over 90 percent of Windows games are playable on Linux, and the only ones that aren't don't run because the dev doesn't want to click a checkmark in the easy anti cheat settings, or they require direct access to your kernal, allegedly to prevent cheating. If you don't care about Call of Duty or League of Legends there isn't much of a reason to stay with Windows today.

Does it support HDMI 2.1?
I really need it for VRR on 4K@120FPS on my LG C3 TV. As far as I know, there isn't a compatible open source driver yet.

>>729032753
A Shilled piece of shite.
Rule of thumb if you want to actually try gaming on linux: Follow what Valve does.
Valve uses Arch, so in this case just use Arch.

>>729032117
Why are gaming journalists like this? Why do they take what their trans friends are doing on discord and make an article claiming it is some widespread movement of gamers? What do they even gain from pushing these bizarre angles?

>>729036862
>f you don't care about Call of Duty or League of Legends there isn't much of a reason to stay with Windows today.
That's if all you do with your PC is play videogames

>>729036806
i did hence why i hate it
it really is that simple, the core experience feels like shit

I have Fedora 42 KDE, it's been working fine for me for gaming

>>729032753
bazza my balls

>>729034197
>say Windows works
>lunatic gives me a list of reasons that are either completely untrue (hello Recall that I don't even have) or shit I don't care about (no circular teleporting taskbar, telemetry that sends nothing I care about) as reasons I need to switch
>I balk
>"FUCKING MACROJEET SHILL FUCKING CORPO COCKSUCKER BOOTLICKER RETARD FUCK SHIT BUTTAPPLE DINGUS"

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>>729033551
Some kind of arch fork since all of Steam's advancements are targeted at Arch, Cachyos and Endeavouros are both good ones.

>>729036884
No. Blame HDMI Forum. Start researching adapters.

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1pkdfcm/ugreen_knight_the_holy_grail_of_hdmi_21_dongles/
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1pnwuj3/cs5565an_chip_the_only_4k120hzhdrvrrinlinux_usbc/

>>729034389
Not him but depending on your needs, in my case programming, it can be a hassle to get things working. Yeah there's containers but those also come with their own constraints. I think CachyOS is pretty good for people that want Bazzite, but more open.

Every time I tried Linux it always had some shit that was just unfixable by a normie.
Playing videos in VLC had screen tearing.

>>729037001
PC gamer thread on a video game board, anon.

>>729037005
The core experience has very little to do with how a smartphone operates. It is actually dogshit to use with a touchscreen. The only way to make GNOME bearable without installing a bunch of extensions is through extensive use of keyboard shortcuts unironically.

>>729037204
VLC sucks everywhere. Use MPV.

>>729032117
Is loonix better than ltsc windows?

>a couple of PCs at work are updated to Win11
>breaks everything
IT didn't even ask if it was okay if they did it, they just did it. I was so fucking pissed. It's so fucking slow and just breaks more and more. I hate it. I'm glad I don't fucking use it at home.

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>>729032117
>What's going on with PC gamers?
More like What's going on with Windows?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqgiYTfr6Ag

>>729037214
We're not talking about games being played, but about the OSes that have much more functionality (to be also lost or changed when replaced) than just videogames.

>>729034197
Mere shitposting.

>>729034751
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>>729036560
Steam has had a rapid and steady enshittification in the past 6(+) years, so this unfortunately sounds like a DoA diagnosis.
>>729037267
>VLC sucks
Confirmed phone- and shitposter.

>>729037345
no

>>729037730
show me the rapid and instant decrease in >>729034958

>>729037813
>defending VLC on an anime website

>>729035952
If you don't like it, manufacture your own hardware!

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>>729037813
>VLC

>>729037813
valve doing work on proton is the reason we're even talking about linux in the first place
just don't use their os, bazzite and cachyos both replicate different aspects of it and it's up to you to decide which you want more

>>729037813
VLC has been a laughing stock on /a/ for like 15+ years

>>729032753
Bazinga

>>729037387
Damn, I'm switching to Linux today. My 4080 is actually going to hit 240fps at 4K with gains like this! Fuck Windows.

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>>729037204
>>729037813
>VLC

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>>729037204
>vlc
What year is it? Use MPV. It's THE definitive Linux media player and can be configured and ran entirely via terminal like God intended.

>>729038351
nah, it really won't
windows does rape your hardware if it's weaker but dx12 is still an issue because it's a fucking stillbirth that sucks even on windows

>>729032117
I will do the same when the SteamCube comes out. I don't even do anything on PC except game and stock trading, so Windows for me has always been useless and just the OS that every normie get because it's the most well known.

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>>729032753
>>729038306

I need a usable, coherent and comprehensive frontend, i am not using command prompts like this is 1988 again

>>729034197
Normalcy bias. Its why the same retards that said covid was no big deal shifted to wanting to put antivaxxers in prison as if they were MK ultra triggered to do so. When the consensus swings fully to shitting on windows they'll pretend like not only was windows being shit always their stance but they were actually the first ones to think of it and switch OS before anyone else.

You don't hate normgroids enough.

>>729033662
how do you not know how to install an OS in fucking 2025?

>>729038729
DIE

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huge gains

>>729038853
>coherent
so what OS are you using? surely not Windows

>>729038229
Who literally gives a shit about tr/a/nnies?

>>729038729
eat shit

>>729039085
Windows is predictable in function and result

>>729035598
Linux: where devs develop cheats and then tailor it for windows after pretending anti-cheat stops hacking while secretly selling the cheats themselves

>>729032808
For now. Non total spyware windows has an expiration date. I'm not giving a giant corp the ability to sell my ill begotten data

>>729039184
lol
lmao

>>729039261
>I'm not giving a giant corp the ability to sell my ill begotten data
You literally can't prevent this from happening. The global economy is built upon the collective totality of human data exchanging hands on the regular.

>>729039184
Only thing predicable about Windows is every update breaking core functionality

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>>729034926
Yes. He was one of their most critical developers, the way I see it at least. He was their sole kernel maintainer, lead developer of Handheld Daemon (which Bazzite uses) and creator of some of their tooling used in the build process among other things.
But apparently he was kind of an asshole most of the time, and he said "troon" once back in 2024.

>>729039184
windows 11 bricking ssds, replacing core functionality with react apps and now forcibly reinstalling ai spyware and planning to turn your system agentic sure does sound predictable
if you're predicting it being shit that is

>>729038853
So, you'd be using anything that just has a GUI? Like most modern Linux distros?

>>729039383
Its not my is doing it.

>>729039261
Are you impling that windows 11 has, somehow, less bloatware, tracking, and other security issues?

>>729039516
>code of conduct
I have literally never heard anything good in the same post that mentions a CoC violation. Its always trannies forcing themselves into a project, establishing a CoC, and then using that CoC to purge original members for not sucking the girlcock.

>>729032117
I know nobody cares but if I could play my gacha games (genshin, hsr, zzz, wuwa and nikke) without the risk of getting banned on linux, I would have ditched windows a long time ago...

>>729039261
They cannot update my computer remotely. My system is very well curated.

>>729039675
No, windows 10 will stop playing modern games at some point so you will have to upgrade to windows 11+ which has more of that crap

>>729039516
>all the way back in last year

>>729039807
Games only stopped working on 7/8 because they started needing DirectX 12. Windows 11 didn't introduce any new API, so it's basically feature compatible with 10.

Why would I want to game on linux if I have a higher mid tier computer? (9800x3d and a 9070xt)
I can see it becoming more relevant in the future as my hardware ages, but from what I've read I feel like sticking with win11 would be my best bet for now?
I do despise all of the bloat and telemetry bullshit that comes with it, but the ease of use, better performance and anti-cheat compatibility really does make me a bit more forgiving in that aspect, even though I am still turning off and removing everything extra that I can.

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>>729032117
>"thousands"
Get a real job, indian shill.

I moved to Linux in Feburary the worst thing that happened was the media widget caused
Plasma to crash randomly.
HDR works
VRR works
Framerates are better
All the games I play work
Gamescope is awesome
Mangohud is awesome
I decide when I want to update
All the software on my PC updates when I choose
BTRFS is awesome
Any scripts I just get chatGPT to write for me
crontab / systemd services are awesome
My pc is quieter
Lower resource requirements for desktop

>>729032117
Careful, anon. Linux users speak only in riddles and they are masters of lies.

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>>729039942
a pretty big number considering 80% of wingoys can't install an iso

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>>729039848
It only took them 13½ months to respond to something he said in a chat all the other developers were also in.

I am going to install Pop!_Os, any reasons not to?

>>729038229
>valuing /a/'s opinion on anything

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>>729040207
yes saar we are american, we use english see? american like you.

>>729036592
christ please kill yourself

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>>729040207
>He thinks installing Linux makes him not a filthy goy Golem
Put the fries in the bag

>>729040268
based on ubuntu

>>729032753
it's what we call a meme distro
basically it's linux except you're beholden to extra discord tranny drama

>>729040268
gay ubuntu

>>729034197
Please understand, if Microsoft cuts its Windows budget, thousands of jeets will have to return to their streets.

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>>729040321
India
Total Bytes: 15.6 PB
Average Download Rate: 54 Mbps
Percentage of global Steam Traffic: 0.7%

you lost

>>729033787
I'm still running w7 on my PC. Steam stopped working so I uninstalled it. I bought a newer laptop since I needed one for school anyway and went bigish for the time, but after two years it's fuckin falling apart and gets worse and worse at running games used to work fine. It uses w11. My old shitbox runs fine despite being old as shit and running on unsupported software. And I frankly haven't bothered updating a bunch of shit.

>>729039879
>ames only stopped working on 7/8 because they started needing DirectX 12. Windows 11 didn't introduce any new API, so it's basically feature compatible with 10.

TPM 2.0, nigga. Newer stuff is making it mandatory. Its why some PC's cant even update to Win11. Its a physical chip on newer motherboards.

>>729036849
I'm in pretty much the same spot. Especially the too lazy to install something better, but I'll probably swap over to Mint/KDE or base Fedora/KDE when I do.

For the most part, stuff just worked, but a couple things have broken along the way.

>>729038531
>>729038406
VLC on windows is good not for quality but just to have as the default so anything you click opens up

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>>729040591
>TPM 2.0
Windows 10 also supports TPM 2.0. You can just enable it in your CPU, every CPU from ~2013 onward has an fTPM, or you can add it to your board if it's even older.

>mpg
>August 7, 2013; 12 years ago
So it released around the same time as the last time I used Linux meanwhile windows hasn't had screen tearing watching video files since before 1995

>>729040685
The fuck does this even do

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>>729040449
Saar believe me, only americans use steam, no india saar, we are american

>>729040685
>Just install the deep state spy capsule yourself!

>>729040791
It adds a TPM to your motherboard. Used to be the only way, now they're built into CPUs directly instead. TPMs have existed for a long time, it's just that Windows 11 made it mandatory (and there's many bypasses to get around it).

>>729040859
What about Steam?

>>729040791
ensures (((platform integrity)))

>>729040791
Holds keys that let the OS decide if what you're doing on the system is legitimate, authorized programs or not.

>>729040859
You're playing online games literally financed by the US government for propaganda, with some of the most draconian monitoring systems available, and you're worried about them reading data on your TPM?

>>729040841
well done, you only need to find 17950 more indians on linux assuming microsoft's jeet ceo doesn't hire more

>>729040962
>>729040957
>>729040791

W11 also locks that TPM to your microsoft account.

Looks like the Microsoft shill found this thread.

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>Adobe products don't work on Linux
>MS Office products don't work on Linux

it will never be year of the Linux desktop

>>729040791
prevents retards that install random shit from bricking their pc
it's done by getting more spyware that constantly monitors your kernel
if you want to use it on linux it's a complete humiliation ritual where you need to ask microsoft to sign your kernel for you

>>729032117
I'm using zorin os, is bazzite better and more stable? Should I move to it or zorin is good enough? I gamed a bit on my laptop and seems solid enough

>>729041083
Adobe can fuck off for all I care.

>>729040962
... doesnt that defeat the whole point of a personal computer

>>729032987
>Windows is increasingly adding more spyware to use the data toward their AI projects
Why spyware isn't illegal?

>>729034085 pretty much sums up my position as well. I'm nvidia, plus my machine "doesn't support w11" according to microsoft so I'm not even at risk of being forcey fun upgraded

I did try out cachy just to see how fucked I would be and it seemed okay but weird
>shills btrfs for choice of filesystem
>shell is something called ""fish""
>opening a terminal tab hangs my pc for a few seconds while it reads specs so it spit out some riced-out neofetch shit
felt some culture shock because my only linux experience was using rhel at work lel

>>729041215
Yes.

>>729033662
Open YouTube and search

>>729041227
Because you HAVE to be watched all the time for "safety". We wouldn't want anyone doing anything dangerous on their PCs, now.

>>729041227
(((telemetry))) is legal, and crucial for MSFT to keep improving their products (you)

>>729041083
Everyone's always suddenly a professional artist whenever Linux comes up.

>>729032117
Windows 11 is hot trash

>>729041083
microshit stuff is now usable through your browser
adobe is annoying but they'll cave eventually, you can still dual boot for that

>>729041227
Because the people making the laws are the same ones who want to shove the spyware into your pc

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>co-pilot takes constant screenshots of everything you do, then stores it in "the cloud"
>screenshots also contain you typing in names and passwords
>but dont worry, its totally safe

>>729040663
You are talking to Linux users anon. Clicking on something and it opening up in a program that can use it is bad not good.

>>729041331
>Everyone's always suddenly a professional artist and diehard Fortnite fan whenever Linux comes up.
ftfy

>>729041331
I am a professional artist
Adobe products are obsolete

>>729041465
This is the real reason for all these new datacenters btw

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>troonix

>>729034197
Literally paid shills. They've always been here. Back when it was cool to stay on 7, there was this one jeet with broken English spamming Win10 threads every single day.

>>729038729
Bazzinga

>>729041643
>windians

>>729041643
THEN WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU RECOMMEND

>>729040841
So that's why KDE is such a trainwreck.

>>729037060
>its just le werks
But not very well, using windows 11 feels even more masochistic than using linux

If I build a new PC out of actual new current parts, can I still run everything on Win10?

>>729041698
android

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>>729041650
It is still cool to stay on 7.

>>729041698
win7+vxkex for games using dx11 and older
debloated win10 ltsc if you "need" dx12

>>729041787
>google
lol

>>729034085
>Everyone seems to forget how fucked win7 was at the start
Are you getting win7 and win8 confused?
Win8 was the first time I ever remember a new version of windows getting significant pushback.
There were always some people wanting to hold off on upgrading before, but Win8 was the first time it was so bad at the beginning that people wrote it off for good day 1.

>>729032117
Jeets have really done a number on Windows this year. I've never had so many problems. Vista was even better.

>>729038729
Is this meme one of the worst things to happen to /v/eddit? Top 3 imo

>>729041787
>call it TROONIX
>recommend more TROONIX

nothing called bazzite will ever be popular because it sounds like a porn site

>>729041768
Yeah you just need an install of windows 10 and software like rufus to let your flashdrive install it.

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>>729032117
Oh no!

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>>729041791
Im literally on Win7 right now. I can play tons of slightly older vidya, and do all internet stuff just fine.

The only reason Id have to upgrade is if I want to play new vidya. I can play Monster Hunter World and things like Fallout 4 at maxed out settings.

>>729041227
Because Jews say so

>>729041952
>fallout 4
>max settings
omg
tell me your secrets

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>>729032117
I have a 4090 with 64gb of ram and a 7950x3D on a Asrock Taichi X670E. It should still be a great working PC but the last several updates of WinBLOWS 11 fucked with my settings, even the RGB LIGHTING ON MY GPU GOT SHIT ON. How can you screw simple settings like lighting with spaghetti code updates?!?

Man if this shit continues I will have to change to Linux or this Bazza shit. Been a windows user since 3.1 but I'm at my fucking limit.

>>729041945
now break it down by language
you're hiding behind third worlders

>>729041952
Go king

>>729033551
Changing your distribution isn't likely to do much of anything about whatever nonspecific "issues" you're having with Steam/Proton. By default, Steam for Linux runs both Proton and native games in Steam Linux Runtime, which is basically a container that provides its own libraries. Unless you force it, Steam isn't just using the packages provided by your Linux distribution anyway.
Most likely you're either playing games that aren't perfectly compatible out-of-the-box or you did something dumb like installing the Flatpak version of Steam.

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bazz thread?

>>729037060
>I don't care about
Absolutely no one cares or asked, i know its very hard to understand but what you feel or think absolutely doesn't matter

>>729041791
I'm still on W10 so it should be fine

>>729035806
Cachy does the "optimized-kernel" and repository packages by default. Whether these optimizations are snake oil or not is up to debate. Also Cachy includes a "install gaming packages" button which saves you several minutes or hours of researching and setting up proton repos and steam.
Arch purist will argue that it's better to do it yourself but so far I haven't got an issue with cachy.

>>729034197
Bharatian genotype

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I've been meaning to get back into installing and testing Linux but I've been feeling too lazy and keep getting caught up in other things...
mneeeeeehhhhh

>Bazzite
Literally an MS honeypot.
MS-employed lead developer, immutable (aka absolute shit for desktop use), derivative of Fedora Kinoite, kicked out one of the few competent devs (the guy who made the handheld compatability stuff) for not carebearing someone crying over being told to fix their bugs.
Just install a non-meme distro like Arch or Fedora and nvidia/amd drivers and you're no longer dependent on an upstream distro waiting for ages for shit.
If you must use a meme distro at least use Endeavour (Arch but harder to fuck up), Mint (Ubuntu but less retarded) or CachyOS (muh gamer Arch) and not an immutable retard one.

Almost all these meme distros?
They're just customizations, often extremely minor, of an upstream distro repackaged to have a "project" on the devs CV. You gain practically nothing from most of them and add issues.
Anyone telling you to use immutable crap like Bazzite is trying to trick you into a bad experience to make you go back to Windows in disgust.

>>729042760
it's fine
it's not an endgame distro by any means but it does its job and you could stay on it indefinitely if all you do with your pc is launch steam and discord

>>729036849
>kde plasma
>woah supports wallpaper engine
>constant ui and graphical gliches
it fucking sucks

>>729042276
STOP SHILLING, SHILLY MCSHILLEN(((STEIN)))

>>729042760
then what the fuck do you recommend

>>729043429
Windows

>>729043429
>then what the fuck do you recommend
>like five recs in that quoted post alone
Bot or just retarded?

when's steamOS for desktop? I used my steam deck as my temp PC for a month while I rebuilt a new one and liked that it just werks

>>729041083
>Adobe products don't work on Linux
>MS Office products don't work on Linux
>Fortnite doesn't work on Linux
>League of Legends doesn't work on Linux
Conclusion: Flawless Linux Victory.

>>729043551
apparently troons use all of the recs so can't use those

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>>729043478

>>729038729
fugg

>>729043429
Linux Mint

>>729043646
troons also drink water and eat food so maybe stop doing that

>>729043750
shit u rite
time to fast i guess mashallah

>>729033442
It just works for gaming

>>729040841
>KDE
Kolkata Dalit Enviroment