>Remake is actually superior to the originalPost them.
>>729032653THPS 1 + 2
>>729032653Pic unrelated?
you guys shilled these demakes for years and they were really disappointing when I finally tried them
>>729032653Tears of the Kingdom
>>729032653only one i can think of is Odin Sphere
Zero Mission.
>>729032653>basegame content plus Crystal content>tons of additional content like the new Safari Zone, Battle Frontier, and legendaries>actually let you catch the JOHTO Pokemon in JOHTO instead of locking some behind Kanto>lots of little QoL stuffThe only slights against it are that it didn't do enough to fix the level curve issue and locking GB Sounds behind basically completing the entire game.
>>729032838D/P/Pl was such abysmal horseshit that anything that directly proceeded it was going to look good by comparison, plus nostalgia. Now with a (highly requested) new hat (e.g. a pokemon can follow you).
>>729032838Why?
>>729032653HGSS are nice tributes but nowhere near GSC >>729034485Pretty much all the Johto mons are in Johto save for Houndour and Larvitar. This lie needs to stop.
>>729032653Picture unrelated. Crystal is objectively the best Pokemon game.
>>729034792Kanto isn't post-game.
>>729034485>level curve issueI've heard this repeated on /vp/ a lot but I've played the games like 10 times and never experienced this "issue". Is this just a zoomer being filtered thing?
>>729032653
>>729034609This. A bit more of a fleshed out Johto with 4th gen mons and mechanics was enough to save that gen for a lot of people.
>>729034792>if you have Stadium 2This is disingenuous because Stadium 2 doesn't give you Pokemon like the starters and shit in Stadium 1. You still need multiple games with multiple starters to trade.
>>729034903Maybe stop mashing A so fast and realize that everything after Morty has the same fucking level until Claire and that 7 of the kanto gym leaders are literal jokes
>>729034792thank you. tired of this 'johto had no johto pokemon' bs
>>729034792>early Sneasel?how, that one is Mt Silver only
>>729034909BDSP did the opposite and it's the best selling remake (therefore also the best one)HGSShills get the rope lmao
>>729035128It's also in Ice Cave before 8th gym
>>729035061>not having all 3 of the Gen 2 games Lmfao, gtfo
>>729034792HGSS actually makes gen 2 decent, GSC is complete dogshit only better than the switch games in every area outside of aesthetics.
>>729035258In Crystal only i meant
>729035142Bait used to be believable
>>729032653>found out a few months ago this shit is worth its weight in gold>have one in perfect condition somewhere in my atticWhat are the chances it will get even more expensive? Pretty sure I never touched mine since I got a flashcard way back then
>>729032653Castlevania The Adventure Rebirth & Haunted Castle Revisited
>>729035095a tangential peeve of mine was that the Gym Leaders' teams comprised of primarily Kanto mons>Whitney's Miltank, Jasmine's Steelix, Pryce's Piloswine, and Claire's Kingdra.and that's all of themthe remakes did nothing to address that :/
>>729035481I have my cart and box somewhere, but I have no idea what the fuck happened to the Poke Walker.
>>729035481At some point Game Freak/Nintendo are finally going to relent and re-release all the old games in some kind of compilation package, plummeting the value of both the old carts and mint boxes. So if I were you I would sell it now.
>>729035481Probably not, unless it's also sealed. People are only willing to pay so much for games that aren't even rare and prices have been plateauing.
Heart Gold was my first ever pokemon game. It was a present for my 7th birthday. The bar was set too high and every subsequent pokemon release except maybe B2W2 was a disappointment.
>>729032653>the soundtrack is all tinny orchestral tracks now rather than the chiptune of the originals>Gen 4 artstyle gets rid of the pastel-colored Gen 2 sprites, which was a big part of GSC seeming relaxing to play>following pokemon are annoying as fuck, they never stop bouncing Not bad games, but they removed all the soul of the originals
>>729035712>plummeting the value of both the old carts and mint boxesthat's never happened for any rerelease
>>729035558>a tangential peeve of mine was that the Gym Leaders' teams comprised of primarily Kanto monsA lot of the bitching about the gen 2 Pokemon not being as prominent in Johto is just people who didn't grow up with them, but I'll concede this.Falkner has only the fucking Pidgey family. Give him a Murkrow or something to make you go "Oh, wow! What is that?" Then you finally find it later in the game and you know.
>>729035069Don't grind and it's not a problem. Retards who grind or don't play with a full party are the only ones who complain. I've beat this game half a dozen times just by battling every trainer and catching 1 of each wild mon I didn't have and not engaging with wild battles after.
>>729035871>just run away from every battle and go out of your way to not play the game
The golden standard by which all other remakes should be judged.
>>729035841The worst is Ecruteak Gym
>>729035950That's how you are supposed to play, and why repel exists. You don't think you are supposed to spend 10 minutes in every patch of grass, do you? lmao
>>729035871>grindImagine doing that in a pokeshit game lmaoI skip every single optional fight and flee from all encounters, and I'm still steamrolling everything Balance is fucking broken, it's a game for toddlers
>>729032653Another Code RecollectionMetal Gear Solid 3 Delta Persona 5 royalLegend of Zelda Link's awakening Yakuza kiwami 3 isn't out yet but you can only go up from the original shitfestResident Evil 2 and 4 but definitely not 3
>>729035558>>729035841>>729036021Gamefreak did they that so they could appeal to genwunners and they refused to give a shit anywayTruly one of the most iconic betrayals in the history of vidya
>>729034792FIFWGetting rid of all the shitiers nobody cares about, locking a bit over 1/3rd of the good Pokemon behind Postgame is a bad idea.
>>729036204>Getting rid of all the shitiers nobody cares about,Not an argument Unovatranny.
>>729032653remake cant be superior to the original because its a parasite by design. If the original didnt exist then the remake wouldnt exist. If the remake didnt exist the original would be better. Thats all that needs to be said.
>>729036204>b-b-buh they don count!kek, I accept your consneedsion
Here's that late game trainer battle I was telling you about
>>729035871Don't bother with these retards. Imagine getting filtered by fucking pokemon of all things.>b-but Red level is too highShould've built a better team, faggot. He's supposed to be about 15 levels above you.
>>729035558That's a (You) problem. Makes the Gen 2 Pokemon seem rarer and adds more value when you find one.
>>729035786Wrong. https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail/?id=SLEGGCS276B This shit used to be £100 more expensive before the remake. >le bong xD Point still stands
>>729035369You are 21 years old.
>>729036204>the ones I don't like don't count! Beyond pathetic
>>729035369the switch games look horrid what the fuck are you talking about
>>729034485I was just watching a video about a hack for it that just came out. no idea if it's any good tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lNjCwakAfI
>>729032653>>729035321These are probably the only ones that are unarguably better than the originals.
>>729034485mostly you're right, but the HG/SS Safari Zone sucked.
>>729034609>D/P/Pl was such abysmal horseshit that anything that directly proceeded it was going to look good by comparisongame freak has continuously proven this hypothesis wrong by making each game after ORAS worse than the last.
>>729036204>shitiers Real trainers win with their favourites. You are playing the games wrong.
>>729034903the game is designed in a way that you can run to different places after the ghost gym. You could go all the way right to the map and the Ice gym, down a fucking long slop to get back to the first route. To the left to explore the rest of the map and the island and then return back to the girl. This is balanced to have the same level. A normal player wouldn't give a fuck about this but apparently reaching the elite 4 under level 50 is that much of a deal breaker for anons after a dude did a video on the topic. Literally no one sane is bothered about this.
>>729035558the argument for this was that most were new species and still being figured out. Even Jasmine had just recently specialized into steel, her main was an actual Onix so she was more like a female brook.
>>729036534Anyone that complains about anything being too hard is retarded, but everything from Morty up to Ice Path is way too easy. Just look at the levels in Rocket HQ, it's indefensible.
>>729034485>plus Crystal content>but they didn't do the mon revamp such as early growlithe and teddiursa, or sneasel in the ice paths>Safari Zone>Rather than just adding more variety to the main worldThat plus the TM changes are frustrating, and part of the reason why I still play the the originals sometimes. Both are good though.
>>729034485I still member how I used mine on a fucking Raticate outside of Fuchsia City.
>>729037640It's a RPG, and they are supposed to be low level grunts while you are on a entirely different level. You are the fucking champion of Hoenn.
Completely replaced the originals
>>729038492nah, specially 3. But the 1 and 2 are good, just different.
>>729038389I've heard the>Gen 2 Team Rocket is SUPPOSED to be shittersargument before but even if there's a story explanation that doesn't change the fact that it's not any fun. And that doesn't explain stuff like Chuck only having two Pokemon either.
>>729037691>>Safari Zone>>Rather than just adding more variety to the main worldThis is my big issue with HGSS' safari zone. You have to be mid to late Johto before you can access it. What they should have done was scrap the SZ or make it postgame for Hoenn and Sinnohmons. That's the thing about HGSS: it's pure quantity over quality. What's worse is that they knew the level curve was fucked and decided to make it slighty better than it was in GSC.
>>729034609>D/P/Pl was such abysmal horseshitThat's hyperbolic nonsense.
>>729040153I thought it was fun to steamroll them, it's also the post game, not the main campaign, it's supposed to be shorter.>And that doesn't explain stuff like Chuck only having two Pokemon either.It's literally the same team he had in the original game.
>>729034903>Is this just a zoomer being filtered thingA little bit, plus bias. The Gen 3 level curve is honestly way worse in both Emerald and FR/LG.
>>729034609>>729034940>>729037013What tranny nonsense are you talking about, Platinum is the saving grace of that gen.
>>729041090>mentally ill anon who is hopelessly obsessed with trannies like PlatinumI'm shocked, shocked I say!
>>729040993>The Gen 3 level curve is honestly way worse in both Emerald and FR/LG.Nah, that's not true. FRLG had the best level curve at that point with the strongest Elite Four and champion. Meanwhile, Emerald only had Steven... and nothing else. The Hoenn E4 and champion stayed the same.
>>729041212Platinum having the VS. Seeker alone puts it over HGSS.
>>729041463Not even him but HGSS has rematches. I never got the point of VS. Seeker, why would I ever want to rematch a random low level trainer? lol
>>729035069>Maybe stop mashing A so fast and realize that everything after Morty has the same fucking level until ClaireJust go to the right after beating Morty you autist. Pryce is actually pretty tough at that point.
>>729036534Are paying attention? People are complaining about the enemies being too underleveled.
>>729034903Speedrunners and challenge runners don't like the game because it doesn't fit with their idea of what a Pokemon game should be. That's really about it.
>>729041239The jump from Claire's Ace to Lance's is like 10 levels. It's 13 from Givonnai to Blue (and 13 again to the rematch) and you get something similar for the elite 4 rematches. Emerald has something similar from Juan to Wallace.The giant gap between Blue and Red in GSC. HGSS doesn't really have the gap because the E4 rematch leaves a 13 level gap between Lance's Dragonite and Red's Pikachu (and its a fucking Pikachu so even with a light orb it doesn't really count).
>>729041937They complain that the early post game trainers and gyms are underleveled, which forces them to grind so they can face the high level trainers later on. Just play the fucking game and stop being a bitch.
>>729032653Recently played Crystal Legacy and Gen 2 kinda sucks. Had more fun playing Heart and Soul.
>>729037013I barely remember ORAS I wish I saw what everyone else saw in it.
>>729042393The Battle Frontier project has started
>>729041660>. I never got the point of VS. Seeker, why would I ever want to rematch a random low level trainer? lolBecause they level up over the course of the game? Same reason why HGSS has rematches? But unlike HGSS, you didn't have to wait for a specific IRL day of the week for the trainer to rematch you.
>>729042205>>729041947>Speedrunners and challenge runners don't like the game because it doesn't fit with their idea of what a Pokemon game should be. That's really about it.Nah, it's because of shit like >>729040215
>>729034485I vastly prefer the original game's aesthetics and music, HGSS feels too bright and childish in comparison
>>729036920>ZM>better than OGkek
>>729032653Lets Go Pikachu is the best
>>729043424Yeah, it is
>>729042997But they are still shitty NPCs. At least HGSS rematches had different teams.
>>729043424Now that's next level contrarianism.
>>729043489>>729043753tastelets
>>729043424trolling or retarded
>>729043673>. At least HGSS rematches had different teams.Both had differnet teams the more you rematched them, but Platinum still had more trainers with high leveled teams despite HGSS having more regions.
>>729044335I almost forgot how much gen 5 sucks
What is it with the Pokemon autism of "post game"? If you're playing it then it's still the game.
>>729032653HGSS suffer from a huge flaw>a turn takes foreverand it only gets worse with each passing gen>>729041814>just deliberately avoid raising your leveltrash
>>729044460On opposite day.
>>729032838They've been telling people this for years.>Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 2:04:24 PM
>>729032653Speaking of these games. I think I found a glitch or progressed "wrong".I have 6/8 badges and the latest badge I got allowed me to control level 70 pokemon traded and below.I never did Goldenrod Radio Tower or met the President because the event to dress up as a Team Rocket member never happened. However, I still cannot progress past the officer on the 3rd level and when trying to explore, I am blocked from going to the 8th gym city. An NPC blocks the way and tells me to explore the lighthouse city and first aid/medicine lady. I already did both of those things (gave Ampharos the medicine, fought the gym leader.)What do?
>>729034903
>>729044667all day
>>729044767Yes, retards existed in 2010 too.But they invented /vp/ just to contain HGSS and Gen 5 hype threads.
>>729032653HG/SS is better than the original gen 2, but that's not saying much, the leveling curve is so fucked. You've got to do a bunch of grinding unless you're going into the elite 4 the second time like 15 levels under-leveled.
>>729044931
>>729044931>You've got to do a bunch of grindingskill issue
>>729044872>Yes, retards existed in 2010 too.And they cited HGSS as Gen IV's peak.
far better then the originals
>>729045052He's right tho. Platinum and Gen 5 got around this, while in HGSS making new teams takes longer because everyone is weak as hell.
will we ever have a pokemon thread without retarded genwarring ever again
>>729032653gen 4 is so slow
>>729044825I only remember you have to beat the mohogany gym and all the rockets there. Try asking chatgpt lol
>>729045182no, zoomers who started with shit games will forever defend their slop and shit on better games
>>729045182Pokemon threads were always like this, you are late to the party.
>>729045227The hp bar is the exact same speed as the gen 2 one and there are running shoes now
>>729044825Don't you need to go to the underground bit and get the Rocket costume?
>>729045170>making new teamsyou are supposed to keep the same team, I swear you retards are sub 80 IQ
>>729035739b2w2 ruled. fast gameplay, prompting to use another repel, largest pokemon variety available throughout, the online trading where i could just breed snivy's or something to trade for all the other starters, HM slaves not required
>>729045460>you are supposed to keep the same teamSaid who?
>>729045460>you are supposed to keep the same teamIn the post-game when you want to raise new Pokemon and do rematches?
>>729045535me, fucking retard
>>729045585yes
>>729034792>several 1% encounter rate/postgame mons that are rarely on NPC teams, so you have to wait for a random call informing you about a mass outbreak (one a day btw) to know where they are and to have encounter rate greater than 1%>Heracross requires you to headbut every tree or look up a guide so you can see which trees correspond to your trainer ID>Hitmontop requires you backtrack to a random cave after beating the 8th gym leader and requires you to autistically stat train one of the worse mons in pokemon history AND requires a guide because no one on earth is going to know how to evolve him without one>includes Scizor and Steelix despite metal coat being a 2% drop from a 20% encounter rate before you get the free metal coat in Kanto>version exclusives not separated>lists every baby pokemon, but doesn't mention that only one is actually available and that you have to breed the others nor that some of the parents are postgame>inflates the list by using full evo line instead the final form only>just have multiple games and accessories broThis list is pure cope.
>>729032838Same. I tried playing them, but they're just... Slow? It's just not exciting or very challenging, the progression isn't fun, I try to find cool pokémon to catch but there are freaking none, at least unless you used the pokéwalker or something that let you catch cool stuff you can't normally. It made me scratch my head and wonder if I grew too old for pokémon.
>>729046096A lot of it is the abundance of forced dialogue, taking control away from me. If I wanna know something I'll talk to NPCs
>>729043424I mean, it's not hard. Problem is that Super Metroid is pretty much a glorified remake of 1 in the first place, and is much better than the ultimately redundant Zero Mission.
>>729046359This, ZM is pointless.
>>729046581million times better than NES metroid though
>>729045409Yeah, where the guy takes your picture? No Team Rocket member is down there.
>>729045229 Lmao, ChatGPT probably told you to go to Pewter City to get the Silver Wing or some shit. But yeah, beat Pryce in Mahogany, then clear out the Rocket hideout there by the lake, then you get the call about Goldenrod being taken over. Classic HGSS “do five things in Johto just to unlock one Rocket boss fight.”
>>729032653Only because of pokewalker. It still the same trash otherwise where all the important mons are postgame only
>>729032653These are the only ones I can think of that I consider definitively "better"Odin Sphere Leifthrasir (Gold Standard that allowed you to play with original mechanics if you really wanted to)GrimGrimoire OncemoreStar Ocean The Second Story RRiviera: The Promised Land (PSP remake, I haven't played the PC release but it's based on the PSP remake)Yggdra UnionDragon Quest 4-6 DS (I have not played the PS2 version of V, and I'm undecided on 7's 3ds remake)Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (this can be argued if you prefer the international editions approach to abilities, but after trying both I prefer TZA).Katamari Damacu REROLLOblivion Remastered is good approach where they make minor changes but keep the core game intact, and mostly kept the art direction similar. There are also a lot of remakes that have tradeoffs with the originals that you just have to decide what's important to you. Personally, I'd like to see more remakes of flawed, interesting games (like Odin's Sphere) that fix issues rather than just remakes of already beloved games. I would kill for a remake of Okage Shadow King that fixes the flaws of that game while retaining the writing and atmosphere that made it interesting. FFXIII would also be an interesting thing to remake, if only to change the criminally glacial pace that the systems open up. An issue with remakes that change too much is that they can't "invalidate" the original anymore because they are too different. While the RE4 remake is a good game, it doesn't replace the original because they play very differently from one another (in addition to writing and story changes). Tactics Ogre has had 2 remakes and they are all distinct enough to be worth trying, oddly enough.
>>729036021why did they hate gengar so much?
>>729046359>Super Metroid is the FF7 Remake of Metroid
>>729032716/thread
>>729032653firered/leafgreen too.
>>729032653this, kirby super star ulta, ocarina of time 3d, fire emblem new mystery of the emblme and echoes which is still kinda bad but better than the original
>>729049185They knew he was cool. But my friend in fifth grade really liked his haunter and hated gengar after we traded my graveler back and forth
