Comfy Metroid thread, what's your favorite game?
Beat Super metroid, Zero mission, and fusion all for the first time this week. They’ve all been really fun and i’m on Dread now. I plan on topping the series by finishing the original
>>729038601OG is so good, good luck though
Prime, but Super is a very close second. I was just thinking last night that the genious that created the Super Metroid story is the same idiot who created the other M story. Or at least he was one of the idiots.
>>729038464Zero Mission
>>729038464>In b4 a bunch of zoomer chime in saying Dread is the second comingI've never been so disappointed in all my Metroid-loving life
>>729038601Nice. I beat Zero Mission for the first time recently, it was great. I want to give it a break before I start Samus Returns so I don't get tired of it.
Just wrapped up a Dread run using a bunch of sequence breaks, it's a lot of fun playing it that way. I think it's neat the way the devs accounted for you skipping space jump
>>729038464I have a huge soft spot for Echoes. It's a very unique and memorable Metroid game out of the bunch.
>>729038464Dread and samus returns are pure lvdo
It's hard to not say Super, so I think nowadays for me it's Fusion, and more than ever these days because you can play the original as a "story mode", then jump into the randomizer as a true Metroid experience, it's a great time. Balls hard too, a game where you can amass such a huge lifebar should have big damage values, that's another thing I liked about Dread and Prime 4 kind of.>>729039886>Tanabe is the faggot that ruined two games in a row with his Fed obsesion>He also came up with Prime scannables>He had a big hand in creating Quadraxis as wellHonestly. Sakamoto and Tanabe brought some dogshit to the series, but a lot of good shit as well.
>>729040607What's wrong with it? I was planning to pick it up after I finish Prime 4
I like NEStroid's freedom and exploration, but its far from perfectDread and fusion both share phenomenal bosses, but the linearity of fusion kills it and adam is fucking awful. Dread I like a lot for its arsenal and gameplay but I REALLY wish it had diagonal aiming instead of the floatiness of aiming with the sticks. and fuck whoever decided to make R3 the combo for storing shinespark instead of just fucking pressing down. Super has the best atmospherePrime 1 is....ok. I really hate fighting the flying pirates and backtracking is really tedious2 and SR are fine on their own right but its really monotonous fighting the same metroids over and over again and it looks like ass on the 3DS(not necessarily the devs fault)Metroid Blast from Nintendoland is actually a lot of fun and I wish theyd revisit itso I'd go Dread > Fusion > NES >= ZM > Super > Blast > 2
>>729042251Super > AM2R = Fusion > Prime 2 > Prime 4 = Prime 1 > Metroid 1 > Prime Hunters > Dread > Prime 3 > Samus Returns > Prime Pinball = Zero Mission > Federation Force > Metroid 2 = Other M
>>729042251>fuck whoever decided to make R3 the combo for storing shinespark instead of just fucking pressing down.What? You can absolutely just press down to store a shinespark, I didn't even know the R3 thing existed
>>729042406I distinctly remember hitting down out of habit and it not working. Its been a while since I played it tho
I know it may seem pretentious but I really do enjoy the pixelated art of super, zero, and fusion. Dread is pretty, I’ll give it that, but fleshing out everything in modern 3D leaves nothing for the mind to imagine. Same goes for pokemon. Less, in terms of game aesthetic, is sometimes more. Here’s to hoping that Nintendo eventually realizes this and starts making pixelated games again
>>729042703>fleshing out everything in modern 3D leaves nothing for the mind to imagineI just never understand comments like this. Like what does it even mean, you imagine a game to be better than it actually is? I remember doing something like that during a playthrough of Wind Waker. I smoked weed, and while sailing I imagined how neat it would be if there were more islands, much bigger more to explore and do on them, and other players sailing by and getting into cannon fights. Imagining a better game carried me to the end. Years later when I replayed it I did it sober and the game just isn't very fun, honestly.
>>729042703I love Dread and all but I agree Metroid just looks a little wrong in 3D, and I get tired of the endless cinematics. I'd contract Tengo Project to make the graphics for a Metroid game and just iterate on the kind of visuals the older pixel based games achieved. But you know current Nintendo is allergic to pixelart, there's not a chance in hell of it happening.
>>729038464Prime 1
>>729038464Metroid Prime is a perfect video game
>>729038464Super
>>729038464Most boring answer possible but Super and Prime 1 have yet to be topped in the 2D and 3D category. Prime 2 is a close contender and also features the best area of the series in Sanctuary Fortress.
>>729038601Try AM2R too (preferably instead of Samus Returns)
>>729044816nothing wrong with that answer, all three games are absolutely amazing. I like other games in the series but god damn
>>729044434Prime is heavily flawed lol
The best is Super Metroid. That game is still mind-blowing - unreal mood, visuals, and very cinematic presentation while still being 99% gameplay. The direction BTFO's modern games to this very day, it's incredibly ahead of it's time.Zero mission gets second place. It's snappy and bombastic and instantly fun.Third place goes to Prime 2 Echoes. It's utterly unique and builds on the best aspects of prime 1 , without sacrificing anything like 3&4 have done.
>>729042856You are too retarded, don't bother
>>729045092dread has better bosses and abilities
>>729045183Particularly what I like about Dread is that it builds upon the strong points of Samus Returns and Fusion. It's still a largely linear experience like Fusion, but is flexibility in its progression and does let you do some real sequence breaking; and is built to allow it.I just wish that Nintendo could get with the times and embrace replayability; put in modes that let you disable downtime and display a timer; auto-skip cutscenes, skip tutorials, etc.
>>729045028It's not actually. There isn't a single flaw
>>729045147Fuck you nigger
>>729045620lol
>>729038464Can't really narrow down a favorite, but I would at least give a top three:>Super>Dread>EchoesThey're all good at different things. As an aside, I still think Beyond is mediocre, but I started a hard playthrough earlier today and tweaked with the default controls. It feels better to me so far (first guardian defeated). Maybe the default controls are shit?>>729040797Great game. I swear emulator screenshots give me the feeling of a Mandela effect. The game is immediately recognizable, but it doesn't look quite like I remember.
Favourite is probably Prime 1
>>729045712Twice now you've had the chance to name a single flaw and you've failed to do so
>>729038464Prime, followed by Super and Dread (not necessarily in that order). Metroid turns 40 next year, so I think it's time to play all of the main series games again.I fucking hate the new captcha system. "Verification not needed" my left ass.>>729041505They just seem like guys who need 'tard wranglers.>>729040797I think I've grown a new appreciation for the game after replaying it this year (even if it was more frustrating).
>>729045990I got high a week ago and listened to the charlie brown christmas album after making it to phendrana drifts. peak comfy
Play Junkoid.
There is such a dearth of good Metroidlikes.Finding a decent one is like finding a truckload of of cool drinking water after walking in the Sahara for days.
>>729038464>DreadSamus Returns
>>729038464Echoes
>>729038810OG filters me so hard bros, its not too hard to create a mental map but fuck me it's so frustrating if you die and you're sent back to 30 health
>>729046439Play La-Mulana. You won't even be able to tolerate 99% of the shit that requires you to solve Simon Says "puzzles" and uninspired linear maps.
>>729041505will we get to see a sexy samus like that ever again?
>>729046563play metroid mother or planets
I have to go with Super, but not just because of Super itself, but because of all the great hacks it has.
>>729041505>a game where you can amass such a huge lifebarI think that was balanced in the original by the fact that you started at 30 energy with empty tanks, had no savepoints to get refills, and had a tight clear time requirement (i.e. collect energy and upgrades = easier game but worse ending)
>>729046563Look up Metroid Planets. You won't be disappointed. Look for the search result titled M. Planets
>>729046439I gave pic related a chance out of desperation and it wasn't as bad as I expected it to be
Found schizo kino while looking for videos on metroid. Metroid is satanichttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_jKPqodrds8&pp=ygUXTWV0cm9pZCBpcyBvZiB0aGUgZGV2aWw%3DAt first I thought he was ironic before I looked through the rest of his channel
>>729046658I'm sure It's very gitgud soulshard or some shit.
>>729046339Definitely do, also play Super Junkoid.It just recently got an update, if you've played it already.
>>729045183but worse pacing, level design, music and every level looks samey
>>729046738>>729046818Bless anons wasn't aware of this, i'll give it a shot>>729046339>>729047160looks cute
>>729046339why does it look like a uterus oozing period blood
Top 3:>Prime 2>Zero Mission>SuperPrime 2 nails the moody atmosphere that makes Metroid stand out among Nintendo's more colorful and chipper series, plus it has the best bosses. Zero Mission is a gold standard for remakes and controls as tightly as a bear hug. Super's controls are as precise as I'd like and it also has "that" puzzle, it but every following game shares its DNA and it's still overall fun to play.>>729040797>>729046480My fellow Echoeschads
>>729047181nothing in dread comes close to the dungheap that is maridia
>>729046480but where's metroid 2: return of samus?
>>729047231>are as precise*aren't as precise, kek
>>729038464The only one I've actually beaten (over 50 times) is Super Metroid so I guess that one
>>729047216Well, you know. Because it does.
>>729047549is that a fetus in that jar
>>729047081It's a genuine hardcore game. Not fake "its the dark souls of puzzle platformers" bullshit. You need to take notes and the hardest aspect of the game is figuring out how to make progress.
>>729047720I will look into it then.Thank you for the recommendation.
>comfy Metroid thread>Look inside>Actual Metroid fans discussing the series>Not a Prime 4 bot Indian ragebait thread Holy fuck we haven't had one of these in almost half a year
>>729047973I hate to be a realist but I'm sure they'll show up eventually. If not then then a certain fag that I shall not speak the full name of.
>>729047745Read the manual before you start playing. Seriously, read it. It's filled with badly translated English but it's comprehensible enough. Even after reading it you will end up feeling lost hundreds of times. But making genuine progress is one of the best feelings in vidya.This video also sums up a lot of basic beginner stuff and is an official video by the devs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtAFGes3XdoIt's for the remake but most of the general advice also applies to the original. Taking notes is basically mandatory after the first few hours of the game. Write down anything that seems important because chances are it really is important.To this day I'm still looking for games that give me the same feeling as La-Mulana.
>>729047973I actually liked Prime 4 for what it was. I see it like a Bayo 3, not what it should’ve been but still solid enough and a good time regardless.
>>729047973>>729048020Game's been out for almost 3 weeks, they moved on. Like I said they'll be hitting the next major franchise to have a following surrounding it, it's just how they move
How do you respond without sounding mad?
at least Prime 4 gave us a good-looking Samus
>>729048295>GG scrubs, should've hired me instead of those fake ass wannabes!
>>729048343>Prime 4 face with Dread bodymy Chozo wife
>>729048343for me it's zero mission and fusion
Dread. Metroid Dread is great because it blends classic Metroid exploration with modern speed and tension. movement feels incredibly smooth, makes every wall jump, slide, and counter satisfying to master. The E.M.M.I. sections add real pressure, forcing you to think fast instead of just backtracking safely. Boss fights are tough but fair, rewarding learning patterns rather than grinding upgrades. It’s super replayable thanks to sequence breaking, difficulty modes, and speedrun-friendly design. Going for the sub 4hour clear on Hard mode at the moment.Basically I want to get good so I can beat the game in one or two sittings.
>>729048343Prime 4 Samus is actually pretty good compromise between realistic human warrior amazon and hot animu chick.I could see that being the official Samus.
>>729048673only thing I want is for her to have blonde eyebrows / body hair, makes her just slightly more alien
>>729038464Prime 2 is my favorite 3D game with Super being my favorite 2D. I have yet to play Prime 4, and while it seems like a disappointment from everything I've heard, I'm patiently awaiting for whatever smidgen of Nora porn gets made.
>>729049283what the fuck is this picture
>>729048591
>>729046563ummm don't die, if it happens once then grab an energy tank
>>729049385Samus's dark suit's pristine crotch armor
>>729038464Nice timing, I finished Dread yesterday. I bought myself Prime 4 for xmas. I think my favorite is Prime 1
>>729049498>Playing the mod that puts Sylux's theme in this fight>Phase 3 startsPure kino
>>729049283the cloaca guard
>>729048272That's a pretty apt comparison. I'd agree with you on that
>>729049283>sexualizing samus' armorYou're gonna make it.
>>729048272I feel like "people" who hate 4 didn't play corruption
>>729038464I beat Prime 4, so I played Metroid Zero Mission and holy fugg the ending is pure power fantasy. Now I'm on Samus Returns on 3DS.
>>729047231Prime 2 had some of the best bosses
>>729048343What about early manga Samus?
>>729050608What a slutYou just know she does Phazon
>>729050608We can't put down EVERY manga version of Samus.
>>729038464tough choice between super and dread, dread because it's the only one i've 100% and raven beak on dread mode is absolute kinobut super because of map randomizers and for being a SNES game
>>729051116Why not
>>729051376There are a lot of them, you know?
>>729051448Why is Samus always hanging out with kids?
>>729051626Maybe it's a way of experiencing some of her stolen youth.
>>729051448Nice Kirby
>>729051812holy fuck wall jumps really launch you in this hack don't they
>>729051910Damn. That's brutal.
>>729051951It is a lot of kick, I do have to turn off highjump sometimes just to squeeze in spots
>>729051116>seemingly human scientist is an alien with 3 eyeswhat a twist
>>729038464>OP picgot it in one
What do you think is in stored for the 40th anniversary of the series? Metroid 6? A remake? Other M 2: Baby Boogaloo?
>>729053486Nothing, I bet.
>>729048343I miss her Ripley inspired outfits (aka normal civilian clothes)
>>729052024Why the fuck did they keep the shitty GBA outlines? No need for it for the SNES.
>>729040797
>>729051869god I hated his second phase so fucking much. the hitbox in his throat is microscopic
>>729040797what happens if you enter the dark portal that's blocked off on the other side though
>>729051116I love this easily distractable bimbo, I like to think this is how Prime Samus is, the kind of person who gets hurt because she was too busy scanning a butterfly to dodge an attack.
>>729053813This sounds incredibly autisticWhat outlines do you mean and why are SNES game suddenly not allowed to have outlines
>>729054359I feel this game was peak morphball gameplay, it even had some bosses that require you to be a ball for a good chunk of the fight.
>>729054939nta, but have a look at the Fusion sprites here. They've got a kind of outline that's not really (fully) present in any other game except Metroid 2. It annoys some people.Metroid 1 has outlines in this image but not in the actual game itself, they're just present here for visibility.
>>729055114move NEStroid to 3rd tier
>>729055258Thanks for outing yourself as someone who doesn't understand metroid.
>>729055396NEStroid is one of my favorite games though. I'm just the one willing to admit its not perfect
>>729054486I fought that spider for nearly an hour before giving up and searching the map for upgradesbroke the tube for the final missile tier, and took a very long path to get Plasma (but I only took the one attempt to win the rematch using only new missiles so I never got the chance to try Plasma on him, oops)
>>729040797I want a remaster so bad so I can play it again. I only played it as a kid when it first came out which was so long ago it would feel like a new game to me. Best prime 4 a few days ago and it just left me wanting more.
>>729055457doubling down on not understanding what makes metroid so great in the first place? I'm wondering if I should tell you flat out or let you figure it out for yourself?
>>729055457Did you only look at the thumbnail or something
>>729055664I'm curious how you think respawning with 30 health and having pitiful boss fights is essential to Metroid's core gameplay, do enlighten me
>>729038464For me, it's>Super > II (GB) > Prime > Prime 2 > FusionI need to sit down and play the original, Zero Mission, and Prime 3 at some point. I'm too lazy to get a switch or emulate it, so Dread's just on hold indefinitely for me. Shame there were never any other real Metroid games after these.
Is this the same zoomer from last night who went rabid at the idea of having to draw your own mapBecause it sure sounds like it
>>729055731I'll give you a hint: Respawning with 30 health and pitiful boss fights make the game better not worse.Sometimes I feel like I'm in the Truman Show and everyone around me is pretending to not understand things like art and video games. I feel like a god amongst men because I actually get it. When NPCs respond on cue with "move NEStroid down a couple tiers" I am actually genuinely concerned that I'm in the Truman Show and people are making fun of me.I don't feel like giving you the straight answer because I'm tired of typing into the void.
>>729056079>I'll give you a hint: Respawning with 30 health and pitiful boss fights make the game better not worse.do enlighten me
>>729056141See >>729046786 for the 30 health thing.
>>729055114Zero Mission invalidates NEStroid as a game. It is superior in every single aspect
>>729056351Thank you too for outing yourself as someone who doesn't understand metroid. That makes 2 metroid "fans" ITT.
>>729056327the key aspect of metroid to me isnt watching sammy take off her helmet
>>729056079>>729056459>you are wrong and i am oh so smart and epic>refuses to elaborate at all and comes up with a schizo truman show explanation as to whyabsolute classic /v/ retardednessif you are as correct as you think you are, explain it.otherwise you just look like a fucking imbecile and no one will take you seriously
>>729056459>Metroid is about repeated rooms and being unable to shoot enemies lower than waist heightYeah no thanks buddy. The only good thing about NEStroid is that it made me appreciate the improvements that II and Super added.
>>729056642>Metroid is about repeated roomsget absolutely fucking filtered, its supposed to make you feel lost >being unable to shoot enemies lower than waist heightif only there was some kind of weapon that damaged things on the ground or at your ankles
>>729056351>constant hand holding via the chozo statues>stupid ZSS segment added after MB segment, with an even stupider explanation given for its existence (she can't concentrate so no suit!)>all for a disappointing final boss that only slightly gets a backbone if you waste your time and 100% the game, which you're not even allowed to do gradually, since the game stops you from backtracking until after you're already 5 seconds from the end creditsZM is casual trash for people who can't figure out how to play a video game. They're the exact audience that Prime 4 panders to. Might as well have Lt. Bazinga tell you where to go every 5 seconds.
>>729056597Ironic you say that no one will take me seriously if I properly explain my position but here you are more frustrated that I'm not explaining my position. I don't need to explain it to you. I'm 100% confident that anyone who doesn't put NEStroid in their top 3 doesn't understand metroid. And by the way if I were in the truman show then you wouldn't exactly tell me so lol to that.>>729056642I'll give you a hint: repeated rooms and not being able to shoot enemies is not what makes metroid the game series great but it did make NEStroid a better game.
>>729056743>its supposed to make you feel lostIt's just lazy>if only there was some kind of weapon that damaged things on the ground or at your anklesBombing every enemy isn't fun. There's a reason Metroid II fixed this blatant flaw
>>729038464Echoes and Dread
>>729056910>It's just lazyno its not. Either you draw a map(fun and engaging) to remember which way to go or you lock in and remember what path goes where, and you internalize what the world of metroid looks like and how you can either execute better or reduce backtracking
>>729056743Finally someone who understands game design. Talking to "gamers" on /v/ about game design is like being the only sane man in the land of the insane. (You appear insane but in fact you are the only sane man).
>>729056895>I'm 100% confident that anyone who doesn't put NEStroid in their top 3 doesn't understand metroid.Cope harder baby boy
>>729056975>Either you draw a map(fun and engaging) to remember which way to go or you lock in and remember what path goes whereWhat does this have to do with repeated rooms? This can be achieved without recycling level layouts. You're mistaking incompetence for brilliance and it's embarrassing for us all
>>729055203It is a change up, but overall not radically different to how Super did it
>>729057049>This can be achieved without recycling level layouts.But enough about Zero Mission.
>>729056910>It's not about making a good art piece>It's about putting maximum effort in>effort is what matters, not the art piece
>>729057000thats funny, because Im the first guy you said who doesnt understand metroid
>>729057049>this can be achieved without recycling level layoutsno, then you wouldnt get lost. the repeated rooms are suppsoed to make you think youre going in circles, or looking for differences like the bombable tiles in the vertical hallways
>>729057038Playing NEStroid feels better than heroin and sex to me because I understand metroid and I understand video games. You'll never experience this because you're not smart enough or don't care to contemplate what art really is and why it matters to human civilization.
So this is the new pseud shitpost? Before it was how both Metroid II remakes are shit because they "missed the point"Now we've got these idiots pretending all the annoying shit that Super Metroid rightly fixed is actually what Metroid is about. I bet you say Sonic 1 is the best Sonic game too
Could he beat Raven beak?
>>729057103What? I was the one who posted>thanks for outing yourselfAnd why are you memeing on my with your pic if I agree with you?
>>729057205Here's you (You) anon, you earned it!
>>729057249This pussy couldn't even kill a low level NPC in a cutscene. His shot should've tore through Myles like he was made of paper. He's a disgrace to anyone who wishes to kill the GF. I say this as someone who wishes to burn the federation down every day.
>>729055185Boost ball propelling you across spider ball tracks was a really good idea. The quadrupedal drone enemies have a weakness to boost damage and bombs, as well. Retro really gave the morph ball a lot of love in Echoes.
>>729057241You're the pseudointellectual because I never stated what makes metroid great and I refuse to cast pearls before swine. Yet here you are saying that the "annoying shit" in NEStroid is supposedly what makes it great. I never said that. I said the "annoying shit" in NEStroid makes it a better game.
>>729038464I like the NES game the best. I didn't like SNES version too much
>>729057317See this kind of dismissive hedonihilist attitude is why it's better to not get into deep concepts like art on an anti-intellectual place like /v/.
>>729057423>I didn't say that it makes it great, I said that it makes it a better game
>>729057429can't tell if this is a 3rd metroid "fan" that doesn't understand the series or one of the idiots doubling down samefagging.
>>729057486Yeah can your tiny NPC brain not comprehend that those 2 things are not mutually exclusive?
>>729057537Hey I'm one of the idiots. That's not samefagging, learn what words mean before you repeat them please
>>729057606pretending to be a different anon?
>>729057581Of they aren't mutually exclusive, they're the same fucking thing.
>>729057249
>Yes I am the smartest guy in the room yes I understand all these complexities and things you plebeians would never understand oh yes yes yes you troglodytes could never comprehend the absolute genius of metroid 1. Only I, the smartest man in the entire world, has the brain capacity to understand an NES game. For what makes Metroid but what I think of it? Oh but you absolute buffoons could never even begin to comprehend my explanations, for the artistic merit of this game is beyond the feeble minds of /v/ posters, the minds of the sheep who's opinions matter nought and for who I spit on from my throne granted by me from the gods.
>>729057482You don't explain anything, I dismiss your entire opinion. Since you clearly lack the mental capacity to explain even the most basic things about game design.Cope.
>>729057249Not even Samus could beat Raven Beak at her strongest until her Metroid DNA kicked in and she AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA'd the everloving shit out of him. Sylux would lose almost instantly.
>>729057429>Metroid Fusion not in the same tier as Other MFake fan.
>>729057673Ok so you actually are dense. I don't even know what else to say other than that a game mechanic can make a game better without being the thing that makes the game truly amazing. This just seems intuitively obvious to me.
>>729056743>its supposed to make you feel lostHow exactly?All I have to do to verify that I haven't suddenly been teleported backwards SMB1-style is to go back in the door I just came through. Doing that immediately confirms I'm exactly as far along as I think I am, and I just continue through the same repeated section I've already been through.
>>729044502>>729048349moar art like this pls
>>729056515if your motivation to play metroid isn't >>729048343 then you're playing it wrong
>>729057904>your motivation to play Metroid should be based on your porn addictionI hate gooners so much right now.
>>729057771>please explain to me the concept of art!lol. How many books that I recommend are you going to actually read cover to cover?
>>729057904moronic post
i should play AM2R again
>>729056743Don't even try to explain these things to these "people". Video games are a completely lost art-form. The situation is so bad it's a beyond code read. Video game developement is a lost art and a lost language to the same degree as Egyptian hieroglyphics.
>>729057881Oh that's right, what you truly think is the reason that NEStroid is the best one is an enigma to us all because you apparently seem incapable of articulating it. The most you've been able to do is rebut every criticism with "yeah but that make it good" without actually stating why you like it.Is this all an elaborate bait? Do you have no genuine opinions of your own?
>>729057978>please explain to me the concept of art!Obviously not what I meant, your opinion on a game does not constitute what good art means. Cope.
>>729058071beyond code red*
>>729057961>t. sodomite mad that they replaced metroid, the radical space cyborg bounty hunter dude
>>729054770It doesn't actually teleport you if you manage to get up to the portal. It's basically just a prop.
Metroid 1 being good even for 1986 standards is the biggest meme. Braindead exploration and absolute dogshit sprites/lack of any sort of backgrounds. Only revisionists defend Metroid 1 as a 'classic.'
>>729058194Holy fuark I feel lost just looking at that image
>>729057961Sorry chastitybro, that's always been the whole point of Metroid.
>>729058160Well shit that just ruined my day. I thought it was functional and it'd warp you into the middle of a phazon vein that would zap your HP until you went back
>>729058194>anon will never be alone with nothing but the glow of his TV illuminating the room with a copy of metroid running on an NES>anon will never graph out a map on his older brother's gridpaper>anon will never ever make his way back up kraid's lair after killing the fucker because he will never ever git gud
>>729058075You don't get it. Game design is dead. To use a topical analogy I'm like the last chozo of a dead civilization that understands what video games should be and actually were at one point in history. It would take a book to explain to you what art is and how video games relate to it. It's hopeless. My species is endangered and I can't be bothered to properly explain what made metroid so awesome to a new species that wouldn't get it because they lack all the necessary context.
>>729058091>>729058363
>>729058337>>729058363>his entire opinion is just nostalgia holy fucking shit you can't make this up
>>729038464Dread, followed by Super and Prime. I just finished Dread a few days ago and it was such a fantastic game, it immediately became my new top Metroid game. Really good bosses, really fluid gameplay, the puzzles to obtain upgrages were pretty fun to figure out, specifically the Speed Booster ones, and a surprisingly hard difficulty. Raven Beak also has to be one of the best boss fights in the entire series. My only complain is that the music was kind of forgettable.>>729040797>[ESCAPE MUSIC INTENSIFIES]Thinking about it, I have only played Prime 2 once, I should replay it someday since I'm unsure if I like Prime 1 or 2 more.
>>729058194main problem is 50 fucking jumps to make it to the top of the shaft. would be a non-issue if shinesparking straight to the top was an option. that the problem of enemies hurting you during room transitions
>>729058253>>729058128Just because you have a crippling porn addiction, doesn't mean Metroid needs porn to be good
I beat NES metroid for the first time about a week ago. Skipping the frustration by shamelessly using save states and online guides for bomb locations elevated it to a solid 4/5 for me and it's actually got me excited for Super Metroid. Guess I'm a fan now
Echoes>Prime1>Super>AM2R>Zero Mission>Dread>Prime4>Prime3>Hunters>2>Fusion>1>>>>OMReplaced SR with am2 cause fuck it.
>>729058337they don't fucking get it dude. When you're older you'll stop trying to get these stupid arrogant fucks to understand metroid. You'll realize you're wasting your breath.
>>729058432metroid 1's escape is bretty gud, but only the FDS version, which lacked the gay triumphant tune tacked on at the end
>>729058445Thank you too for outing yourself as someone who doesn't understand metroid. That makes 3 metroid "fans" ITT.
>>729058363Yeah so we agree, you are incapable of articulating why you like it, and you mask this mental deficiency behind an air of intellectualism. It's pathetic.
>>729047181>PacingTrue. However, I will say that Dread's upgrade pacing, in particular, did allow for the most gratifying upgrade pick up in the series to be the fucking morph ball. Absolutely phenomenal and arguably worth the iffy pacing elsewhere. >Level designAlso yes, but I don't think Dread is actually massively behind in this category.>MusicAbsolutely. Goddamn what a disappointment the OST turned out to b.e>Every level looks samey.Never felt this at all, personally. Super is still better than Dread, thoughbeit.
>>729058556>powerbombs locked til the very endreally puts a damper on things for me
>People joke about Samus looking like a watermelon in dread>gets an actual fruit suit in Beyond
>>729058514>I am incapable of enjoying video games without my goonbaitThis would explain alot about the fandom, and why you guys defended Other M for the longest time.
>>729058523I can't get you to understand so what would be the point? I know how people work. You can't make anyone understand anything. There's real value in understanding and wisdom though. I'm able to enjoy NEStroid and most metroid "fans" are not. There's real value in that.
>>729058556Forgot pic.>>729058640I'm annoyed how common an issue late powerbombs is in this series. Prime 4 was the most recent offender.
>>729058690You don't have to keep telling me about your own mental failings, you've made that abundantly clear throughout this thread
>>729058690If it makes you feel better, I enjoy NEStroid too. People are are just too used to having checkpoints and yellow paint and map markers tell them where to go. They're the idea Ubisoft audience.
>>729058774Are you able to enjoy NEStroid as one of the best metroid games?
>>729058647I'll give you a hint: Samus taking her clothes off makes the game better not worse.Sometimes I feel like I'm in the Truman Show and everyone around me is pretending to not understand things like art and video games. I feel like a god amongst men because I actually get it. When NPCs respond on cue with "you have a crippling porn addiction" I am actually genuinely concerned that I'm in the Truman Show and people are making fun of me.I don't feel like giving you the straight answer because I'm tired of typing into the void.
Her armour set easter egg from Hlo 3 is fun
stop replying to the obvious troll (not naming any names)
>>729058841>being reminded that Samus is a disgusting, fleshy, weak human makes the game better
>>729058781It doesn't make me feel better and I'm still a dying breed because you'll still say that short enemies are a design flaw.
>>729058825What do my thoughts on the game have to do with yours? You should be able to articulate what you like about it with no regards for what I think. Are you only capable of expressing yourself in an echo chamber?
>>729058408I wouldn't say it's nostalgia, necessarily. You just had to be there.I wouldn't argue that Metroid is better than Super Metroid or anything like that, but I'll never say that Metroid is a bad game when I had so much fun with it.
>>729058904Nah, I like short enemies too. Gotta keep the player on their toes.
I do not like Samus' new characterization. It is too much of an overcorrection from Other M.
>>729058890But this guy is more fun to prod than ACfag
>>729058951He IS ACfag. It's like you have no pattern recognition.
>>729058194>Literally 6 vertical screens worth of platforms with the exact same enemy layout between the bottom and second bottom doorslollmao
>>729058915>dodging the question
>>729058893Watching Samus undress feels better than heroin and sex to me because I understand metroid and I understand video games. You'll never experience this because you're not smart enough or don't care to contemplate what art really is and why it matters to human civilization.
>>729059030I understand Metroid far better. You don't even see Samus in her stupid gooner suit until the very end of the game, how is it vital to the experience?
>>729058930Yeah this annoyed me in dread, it felt like they really wanted to make her an epic action game hero and the most badass person to ever exist, where before it felt more like she was a someone who was competent and just got her job done, not trying to be cool or anything. Which was ironically part of what made her cool in the first place.
>>729059025I do not like Metroid 1. Now, without going on some tangent about how I "wouldn't understand" or how "you had to be there", concisely articulate what you like about Metroid 1 that you find lacking in every other entry.Failure to respond to this post in such a manner will be taken as a concession that you are a fraud who doesn't like Metroid.
>>729059002>>729058951I love it when I go against the grain in a thread and schitzos call me some namefag I've never heard of. Everyone always thinks I'm some regular troll just becuase I think for myself.
>>729059151>no cutscenes>no dialogue>no exposition>no handholding>less graphics, so there's more to the imaginationIt's a great game all around.
>>729059134Prime 4 did it really badly with her striking "cool" poses all the time but then still jobbing to Sylux at the end lol
>>729059093You don't get it. Game design is dead. To use a topical analogy I'm like the last chozo of a dead civilization that understands what video games should be and actually were at one point in history. It would take a book to explain to you what art is and how video games relate to it.It's hopeless. My species is endangered and I can't be bothered to properly explain what made seeing Samus without armor at the end of the game so awesome to a new species that wouldn't get it because they lack all the necessary context.
seeing samus in her sports bra and short shorts after her mission is the best 100% completion reward a gamer could ask for
>>729059262If your species depended upon looking at goonbait for survival, then maybe extinction is preferable.
>>729058432>Thinking about it, I have only played Prime 2 once, I should replay it someday Do it, anon. Just remember: don't let the ammo and health drain deter you, because they're really not that big of a deal once you get down to it.
>>729059260Kek I haven't played prime 4 but that shit sounds hilarious
>>729059151>I'm the fraud>because I like the only metroid game that existed from 1986-1991>a whole 5 years of there being only 1 metroid game and if you were a fan of metroid it meant you were a fan of that game called "metroid" for the nintendo.>and yet here you are saying that you are a real metroid fan despite not liking the only game in the series simply called "metroid". The irony is tangible. I'm the one being trolled.
>>729059349She jobs all the time in Prime 4. Like here, for example. Whether your health drops low, or you survive the time limit, you still lose to the wolves and need to be rescued by an NPC.
>>729059393>Whether your health drops low, or you survive the time limit,What are you talking about? You CAN die to that fight
>>729059231I don't agree that any of these points make any game innately good, but this is a start.>>729059390You however are a hack and a fraud. I don't believe you even like Metroid 1
>>729058075Usually I dont explain myself to supertrannies because they're pompous and unhinged people. One thread i compared a game to castlevania and some fag had a meltdown over the comparison insisting it was "linear and easy" and claimed proof of hidden areas in the game (imagine being so uninformed about castlevania to not realize the big gimmick of the series). Of course its a SMbaby acting like theyre fucking playing SS1 over 2, and thinking they can joust others with their "supreme taste".I think the original metroid is better in many regards. In terms of exploration, pacing, platforming, and general use of Sam's moveset. Platforming actually has revelance in the first game. It required mechanical skill despite it's basic use. Falling of platforms was generally a threat to you and those vertical shafts required meticulous athletics to get around as opposed to later installments. Later titles render platforming pretty much irrelevant with less damage pits and the introduction of screw attack having additional jump abilities. Pacing was better because there was less story scripted sequences. Exploration was better because you to use your own navigational skills to to map out an actual hostile world. Every room was dense with threatening enemies that challenged your shooting and platforming skills. Super throws you so many upgrades that render basic traversal challenges almost obsolete when you can fly and run around like sonic mid game. It's also the most open ended metroid game, something not a single sequel bothered with from a design standpoint.The game certainly had its flaws. But I'll take classic mega man over x, and the same og over super. No game ever bother replicating that feeling I get from it on a surface level outside of la Mulana.
>favorite nintendo series are zelda and metroid>acfag latches on to them and spends his entire existence spamming their threads with his gaytardationMy life is misery
>>729059480If I can find enjoyment in Metroid 1 and you can't then I have something you don't.
>>729059260>triking "cool" poses all the time but then still jobbing to Sylux at the endcould work if you went the quirky, goofy anime heroine who's a total klutz. kind of like the manga shown here >>729051116 >>729054807unfortunately westoids might dismiss it as "too japanese"
>>729059424I think Anon is saying that no matter how well or poorly you do (short of dying), the cutscene is the same.
>>729057249>expect him to be a cool alien or robot >Human morphology
>>729059497I don't agree with a single thing you said and I could do without the attitude, but I can respect thinking like this. Thank you for articulating what you like about the game
>>729059709>I don't agree with a single thing you saidyeah see that wasn't me but this is the nonsense I'm talking about and the reason I won't bother to explain my position.
>>729059502Your life may be misery, but at least you're not a thirdie Costa Rican like ACfag.
>>729059806>look at me being edgy and racist!
>>729059151the one thing I really, really like about NES metroid is the boundless exploration. theres no cutscenes to stop the game in its tracks, theres none of those god damn supermissile gates like in Super, theres no "oh you dont have the spazer" beam doors like in dread or samus returns(yes theres obviously missile oors but thats a very quick upgrade to find from the outset), its just go wherever you want after you get bombs and missiles. you CAn jump out of a drop to get a kind of space jump to get around some obstacles. you CAN bomb jump. its just pure freedom
>>729059891Struck a nerve, ACthirdie?
>been on metroid threads since 2009>never knew who acfag was and what he doesGuess its a good thing i don't pay attention to retards?
>>729059891Society is shit right now and it's never been more diverse so excuse me if I take to racism as a defense mechanism to living in a shitty society.
>>729059957They think I'm a guy called AC or something but I've never heard of him. Also they think an Ad Hom like calling me ACfag actually means something. They don't understand how stupid they are and they don't realize that video games will likely never be great again because of """people""" like them. Metroid is definitely fucking finished because of """""""real fans""""""" like them.
>>729059957How have you never noticed the guy who always bitches about horny samaus art being a sign that nintendo fans are fake gamers? (And was later to have been discovered to have them on his pc when he included a horny samus image by mistake with one of his posts)
>>729059951>>729059962Yes, just impotently lash out. It'll magically make Prime 4 a good game. Anything to whiteknight Nintendo.
>>729057249No way, Sylux feels like he is just the designated jobber. Even when he's serving as the final boss of MP4, he spends most of the time autistically screeching about Samus and getting pinned down by generic Feddie troopers.
>>729060045If you want to look at porn, you have 10+ boards you can do it in. Stop ruining Metroid threads with it.
>>729042171the EMMIs eat up a significant portion of the maps/playtime and theyre all really long, dragged out forced stealth sections. The rest of the game outside them is great however.
>>729059497congratulations you took all that time to write a thoughtful explanation and the cum guzzling faggot doesn't understand you at all.
>>729060132>and theyre all really long, dragged out forced stealth sectionsThis is a blatant lie, only on a few occasions you have to use stealth, the rest is all about keep moving to reach the next safe area. The sections literally punish you for being bad at the game.
>>729060108Where did I say that I wanted it or had anything to do with it?
>>729059925This is what I can get behind the most. I think there's a balance to strike though. It should be open enough to give you options, but not so open that progressions all but halts after the third upgrade
>>729059497Holy fucking shit finally, you could have just written this in the first place you know.I agree with a lot of what you said, I think Metroid 1 was especially good at getting you to actually care about using your missiles, the enemies can be so agile compared to Samus that doing heavy damage to instantly kill with a missile is often a good option, and I'm a fan of bombing being more necessary in Metroid 1 to hit the smaller enemies, it becomes less useful in combat for later entries. The screwattack also feels like a much bigger deal given how much easier it makes getting around. The lack of a map is nice too, it's really not too difficult to create a mental map of where you have and haven't been.
>>729060271Then there should be no problem with wanting to get rid of ZSS from the series. Arguably one of the only good things from Prime 4 is getting rid of the disgusting and putrid sex fanservice. That's a start, we need to work from there.
>>729060330nitpicking faggots like you are a cancer on video game design. How many games have you made? How many times did you cuck out to please some greater audience? How many times did you put in something seemingly "annoying" in order to get your ideal vision into the market.Worthless faggot.
>>729060132I really liked the gravity emmi fight. having to ride the ceiling lift thing to escape and gunning it down as it crawled above you was kino
>>729060397that wasn't me and I'm not going humanize you animals and fake as fuck "fans" by giving you an explanation. Fuck me I can't believe this is how the majority of metroid "fans" think.
>>729060506Overplayed your hand a bit with that post.
I’m playing Prime 1 on Hypermode right now. Fun, made a thread in /vr/ about it but Thardus was way tankier than I remembered but I learned about the morph ball bomb method so I think the fight is pretty cool despite being a bunch of rocks.
>>729040797It's the best Metroid game. Anyone who cares about the franchise knows it hits every note and has the perfect portrayal of Samus.
>>729060506Okay, I will continue to enjoy Metroid and you can continue to seethe. Here's your (You) anon.
>>729060663I'm not the one seething, you are.
I'm not gonna reply to you anymore, keep coping keep seething, and keep being wrong.
>>729060663>Okay, I will continue to enjoy Metroid and you can continue to seethe. Here's your (You) anon.>says the person who quite literally does not enjoy the game called "metroid"Truman Show
>>729059393That's awful.
>>729060796Hard to call someone wrong that never actually made any claims. That's the perk of not making claims. Anons can't call me "wrong".
it was a mistake to make metroid 3d, it doesn't translate well at all. all the things that make the 2d games great are a slog in 3d.
>>729057354Holy crap that's so poorly directed. Where's the MP2 cutscene guy. Jesus.
>>729060045I literally ignore any sort of horny samus posting or people shitposting, i just talk about the games.people still post my screenshots from my 2012 playthrough of prime 1 /2 to this day sometimes lol.I also was here that thread some anon took a copy of other M, destroyed it, flushed the destroyed disc down the toilet and then took a shit on the case of the game.I still have it saved on old hard drives lol.
>>729060401Why are you arguing with me about this? All I said that you were autistic enough that the other anon should have been able to recognize you from your earlier posts. You genuinely cannot help yourself but get into pissy argument fits, can you?
Counterpoint: Speedbooster. Take that NEStroid fags
>>729061239Probably left Retro years ago like most of the Prime team
>>729061383The thing about ACfag is that he isn't really a shitposter. He's just extremely argumentative and insufferable. He's been posting on this board 24/7 for like a decade now. You'll largely seem him pissing himself over literally any amount of story in a game whatsoever, yet for some reason he mostly just targets a few franchises like metroid and zelda.
>>729059151zero mission niggers like you can just fuck right off back to fusion and prime 4 for your handholdy paint by numbers fucking faggotryhint: make your own fucking maphint: you dont need the game to open the map, zoom in on where you are supposed to go, and give you a fucking quest markerhint: you do not need a save station / full hp station every fucking 38 seconds.
>>729061535what do you need a speedbooster for in NEStroid?
With the release of Metroid Prime 4, I've now realized the series is pretty much 50/50 in terms of games I like and games I don't.
>>729061779Actually, I take that back. ACfag is a shitposter sometimes considering he's the faggot who spams every single mp4 thread with the same folder of images
>>729057779>at her strongest False, the suit is still healing in dread, she's at lower power than beyond
>>729060438being a complete cunt to people who actually bother to have a generate discussion is the fastest way to drag everything down.you are just a misanthropic asshole who hates himself and therefore everyone else. go be miserable somewhere else. find love
>>729061794>suggesting the pointless busywork of making a map>takes a fuckton of time that could go into playing the game>completion time shoots up so you can't get best endingno one wants to be forced to do 2 loops of the same game. imagine if you were playing one of the prime games and you were greeted by a big text box at the end that says "great! you got 100% of items scan log entries, but your clear time was too slow. better luck next time!"you would feel like smashing your controller against the wall
Metroid 1 is great. Anyone who hates it likely didn't play for long since it gets orders of magnitude better the longer you play. At first Samus is weak and pathetic but the upgrades all feel so incredibly valuable and worthwhile that you're desperate for them, all this without becoming too OP and death/failure is still a big risk the entire time.Also, the black backgrounds with the weird neon foregrounds and bugs everywhere give a really great "forlorn alien cave" atmosphere often far better than the levels in some of the later games The only flaw I can think of is regaining health is grindy (unless you get an E-tank) and samus' run animation is awful
>>729062723>samus' run animation is awfulFunny you mention that. I just read an interview with Kiyotake, the guy who made the animations, and the same guy who designed samus in the first place. He's apparently super athletic, and he said being athletic helps when designing video game animations. He particularly brought up the run animation in metroid as an example.
>>729062723I mostly agree but I also think the room design is kinda boring in a lot of areas. Especially some of those vertical shafts
>>729063014They're not as bad as they seem. Samus is really good at jumping... You clear those rooms top to bottom in like 20 seconds. Unless a bug knocks you and you fall.
>>729063189The problem is they aren't fun. They're boring
>>729063236Mm no. Metroid has very dense gameplay. You don't get bored because you're thinking about the next 3 platforms you'll jump on, how to avoid the crawling bugs, what door to exit through, what to shoot to get ammo, etc
Zero Mission has the smoothest and fastest most fluid and fun movement in the series, fast jumps, high movement speed, flexible and quick to execute wall jumps. Definitely the most satisfying one to just straight up control Samus. Though Super is a close second, very different feel but has a buttery smoothness to it as well once you get used to it, especially with how the speed booster is done, feels incredible to blast through stages with the booster and the shinespark.
>>729040797I always really wanted to like 2 but I don't like the dark world mechanic at all, I hate being on a timer in a game where the object is to explore. Maybe one or two areas that are particularly dangerous, but not for half of the whole game
>>729063391>you're thinking about the next 3 platforms you'll jump onYou have no idea what good platform even is if you think tall rooms with long platformes that are super easy to jump is remotely interesting.
>>729059497iaintreadingallthatshit.png
>>729063529Metroid is about adventure and exploration, not platforming. It happens to have platforms, but it's not the focus. It's design is to be the side scrolling counterpart to The Legend of Zelda (which was top-down.) you are navigating through a really big interconnected cave system and trying not to die.
God damn Fusion sucks. Storyshit and NPCs don't belong in Metroid games.
>>729062723Pretty fair assessment of Metroid 1. >that pic thoughI lowkey hate the way Chozo ruins have been depicted since Prime 1 and Zero Mission. Zero Mission just made them straight up ancient egyptian, which completely deflates the alien fantasy of metroid. It's too familiar. Prime 1 Chozo ruins are at least a bit better than Zero Mission's, more alien, but in all the statues and wall busts the Chozo themselves are just humanoid birds. There's no menace. No real strangeness. NEStroid, II, and Super are all pretty unsettling. Not just the statues, but the ruined architecture they left behind. Prime 3 is the only game since Super to strike an interesting balance on the issue to me. Sky Town feels like a pretty interesting take on what they were capable of, and the type of civilization they were. The spiderball statue isn't as scary as the old statues, but I think this is the only example (unless there are some I"m forgetting in Dread?) of a Chozo with the Varia Suit shoulders. Which is a good way to visually link them with Samus.
>>729063776A fellow lad who hates Fusion. My man.
>>729063709...so? Having rooms that are fun to navigate is essential in exploration based platformers since you'll be going through them more often than in most other games. Look dude, I love metroidvanias, and I even really like the original metroid quite a bit. I just think room design is overall kind of boring and repetitive. You can't seriously be trying to tell me that having fun rooms to navigate isn't important in a game like this.
>>729057249Sylux is kino but no way, what makes him great is that he's the underdog. He jobs to Prime Samus more often than not while end of 2D Samus couldn't scratch Raven Beak without her cutscene powerup
>>729063776Being stopped by Adam every 30 minutes or so is pretty obnoxious. >StoryshitDepending on what you mean, I disagree. Adam being Bonzi Buddy and Samus having paragraphs of internal thoughts about her relationship are all pretty offputting. But "storyshit" could also include stuff like the SA-X encounters and a lot of the nonverbal storytelling. Super having a few intro paragraphs to set the stage doesn't offend me either.
>>729063864I never played prime 3, but super maintains that weird dark neon alien cave vibe for the most part, with some areas (the sand or the rock caverns) being just a little too plainMetroid prime always gave me jim Henson dark crystal vibes for some reason, very muppet pilled
>>729038464replaying Prime 1 and 2 on Primehackstill have to be a superfag but it is nigh impossible to not let primehack tinge my liking of the Primes (and I already really, really, really liked them)wanting a primehack cheat/setting where it removes the aim assist entirely and maybe another that removes locking on in combat visors (dunno what to do about side dashes or homing on wave beam/missiles though) i know that's super sweaty and not what metroid is about but the games feel like they can easily handle it
>>729063864>Zero Mission just made them straight up ancient egyptian, which completely deflates the alien fantasy of metroid. It's too familiar. I wonder if that was supposed to be a callback to Stargate, where aliens built the pyramids and shit.>Prime 3 is the only game since Super to strike an interesting balance on the issue to meI really liked the environments created in that game, especially Skytown.>>729064162>Metroid prime always gave me jim Henson dark crystal vibes for some reasonI somehow kind of see where you're coming from.
>>729063978Finally someone who gets it. Sylux isn't supposed to be some kind of super villain. He's just a dude with a cool design and a grudge
>>729063864>but I think this is the only example (unless there are some I"m forgetting in Dread?) of a Chozo with the Varia Suit shoulders. Which is a good way to visually link them with Samus.
>>729064162>but super maintains that weird dark neon alien cave vibe for the most partFuck no dude. Crateria is all rock. Maridia sand is sand. Norfair is red rock. etc.
>>729064162>Metroid prime always gave me jim Henson dark crystal vibes for some reason, very muppet pilledHAHThat's weird but makes a lot of sense.
>>729064785>the mural chozo with wingsIs Dread the only time a Chozo was shown to have wings?
>>729064563It's pretty obviously the intention since the beginning.>backstory is that he fucked up and needed Samus to save his ass within an inch of his life>jobs to Samus all the time in Hunters>has to be saved from Gorea by her in the end>loses to normal Prime Samus>spends all of Prime in a pod fucking with her in numerous ways (Force field, rain, all of Flare Pool/Volt Forge)>is only finally a match for her when he juices up on the same psychic shit, still jobs >has a literal meltdown and fucks her over one last time by breaking the teleporter and forcing her to leave the Feds behindHe's just a man who's never going to be on her level but is angry enough to keep trying everytime
>>729063978>>729064563>>729065127None of that is kino. Armored Core 6 did the exact same character but infinitely better. Sylux sounds like someone who read about the character in AC6 who embodies this idea and completely fucked it up.
>>729065127If you're gonna go the route of the petty asshole, then you can't job to random fed grunts. He should've instantly killed them the moment his boss fight began, and he DEFINITELY shouldn't have been held back by them when Samus was using the teleporter. Come on, any other Metroid villain would've slaughtered them all like pigs.
>>729065346The villain who's just a massive hater isn't something that either Metroid or AC6 invented. It's just a fun trope and Sylux is another one of them. There's people who do it better like all tropes but I still enjoy it. Especially in the context of the Metroid series where there's nobody else like that. The closest thing is Ridley who is a good Samus hater but it's a side occupation to him just generally being an evil piece of shit who leads the Pirates. Sylux's sole motivation is hatred and a grudge and he's a normal dude on top of that unlike all the giant bosses and evil alien clones we have.
>>729065426>The villain who's just a massive hater isn't something that either Metroid or AC6 inventedI didn't say either of them invented it.>It's just a fun trope and Sylux is another one of themNot a good one because Sylux doesn't talk. >but I still enjoy it.I'm sorry.
>>729065448It's okay anon, I forgive (You).
>>729065448>Sylux doesn't talk.He does though?
>>729065346>Bringing up armored core out of nowhereHuh?
>>729065448He did talk.
>>729065426>Sylux's sole motivation is hatred and a grudge and he's a normal dude on top of that unlike all the giant bosses and evil alien clones we have.Well, what does he do to justify his status as a final boss? It doesn't matter if he's a "normal dude" if the game magics up some wacky technology for him to be this all powerful rival. If they really wanted to play this up, they would ditch the whole crap about him controlling the lamorn tech and the healing pod, and have him be more cunning.What's cool about constantly jobbing to NPCs?
>>729065536Bringing up a better example of something when one asserts the inferior example is kino. You are aware of how critical discussion works I'm sure. I shouldn't have to be replying to you but here we are.
>>729065409>He should've instantly killed them the moment his boss fight beganTo be fair, it is a gameplay thing but the hardest part of the first phase is actually keeping the grunts alive vs Samus herself dying. >he DEFINITELY shouldn't have been held back by them when Samus was using the teleporter.I just chalk it up to him being severely weakened after the fight. Samus DID just beat his ass and we saw his armor basically short circuit on him. He was firing normal ass shots instead of his juiced up psychic beams. Samus wasn't hurt by the shot more than she was severely stunned by the teleporter's damages since she was focused on activating it with her crystal. His normal shot takes Myles down for the count while he absolutely would've killed Armstrong in that chokehold if he wasn't interrupted. The robot was also doing most of the heavy lifting in restraining him and he was STILL able to walk a little bit despite the 4v1.
>>729065637What the hell are you babbling about? How does the existence of a better thing make the original thing bad though? In the grand scheme of things 99% of things will always have a better example. It's just a Weordly specific thing to gush about, especially considering ac6 isnt remotely popular enough to be a good place to point to for story examples
>>729065751>How does the existence of a better thing make the original thing bad though?You have that backwards. The existence of the better, previous example, shines a light on how bad the later example is. You're the one babbling. Take your meds, gramps.
>>729065793Under your argument literally nothing is good except for the thing at the top.
>>729062723I beat it but i still don't like it. I just don't like the way Samus controls and I don't like the beam system
>>729065671>To be fair, it is a gameplay thing but the hardest part of the first phase is actually keeping the grunts alive vs Samus herself dying. The problem is that he isn't instakilling them. Mind you, this is when he should be at full power, so it just makes him look weak.>I just chalk it up to him being severely weakened after the fight. See, this makes it worse because Sylux after the fight shouldn't be capable of hurting Myles with one shot. It makes absolutely no sense. And canonically, the troopers aren't even phased after the fight, since none of them even show any lethargy or weakness. They basically act as if the fight never happened. it's just a giant, inconsistent mess. There are so many ways they could've did the whole story better, it reeks of a rushed ending.
>>729065013Well, it has a lot. Brinstar is all great. The underwater parts and some rooms inside the ship are very dark and spooky. Anywhere with the colorful bubble/hive tiles has the right vibe. Some of the areas in Ridleys zone also have a great purple/red on black look. It's at least half the game, and the areas that stray from it aren't as pretty.The pitch dark backgrounds with the colorful alien foregrounds are very important to Metroid. I don't know why but this has always stuck out to me since playing Metroid 1. It's my autistic obsession
I don't want to sound sexist (I do)But Sylux has that stink of "male villain written by a current-year woman"Where he's not allowed to have ANY redeeming qualities in order to make the woman character look better. I was thinking about a comparison, he's maybe about on the level of Skeletor from He-Man in terms of depth and competence, but even Skeletor has a cool factor. Sylux is just an incel dork. This makes the entire journey of Metroid Prime 4, Samus learning about the Lamorn (who were apparently idiots), failing to save the federation marine squad she spends the whole game babysitting, and fighting but not even killing Sylux who spends all his onscreen time jobbing and seething, into a sad annoyance for Samus. This is really my core problem with Prime 4. Most Metroid games have this heroic optimism, very classic pulp fiction stuff, where Samus is this unflappable heroine. Set up against some of the worst odds and coming out on top, with flair. Very genki. Prime 4 is the same depressive brooding feminist melodrama that infected Halo with 4, and was arguably present in Reach and ODST too. The thing about fiction is it can be literally anything. If you have a hero character, his or her character traits can be that she never fails. For a male example, you had James Bond. Until the Craig era, which was also brooding depressive feminist melodrama bullshit, Bond always had a close shave with danger, but usually managed to save a pretty girl, save the world, and tell a cheeky joke. That's what his character is. You could argue that this subversive Daniel Craig Bond isn't really Bond. Not in the pulp fiction intentions of the original author. I dunno man. Idk if this will resonate with anybody. But when writing a fictional character, you literally never have to write your character to be sad, or intend to depress your audience. Intent I guess. The intentions of Prime 4 are clearly off.
>>729065346Genuinely, do you believe that armored core actually has a good story?
>>729065893>See, this makes it worse because Sylux after the fight shouldn't be capable of hurting Myles with one shot. Myles isn't exactly the strongest one there. He's an engineer and he doesn't even show up for the Great Mines segment. I think it makes sense that even a weakened Sylux's shot can hurt him. I think your other point is reasonable, they could've shown them being a bit more weakened. I also do actually agree that the ending could still be better as it feels very abrupt and you can generally feel the development hell throughout the whole game, but I still think it was alright and that Sylux himself is still cool to me.
>>729065991NTABut Armored Core 6 has a decent story. It's not anything great, but it leaves a generally positive impression.
>>729066007>Myles isn't exactly the strongest one there. He's an engineer and he doesn't even show up for the Great Mines segment.Be that as it may, his "sacrifice" still comes across as phoned in. The whole reason why I dislike the entire ending is the same reason why the Raven Beak fight in Dread felt bittersweet. The story is essentially discarding the entire boss fight that happened for the ending to work. Let me explain.>Sylux goes through an entire three phase boss fight>afterward, he's essentially unphased and somehow even stronger, and it takes all the gfed troops to hold him back>go through a multi-stage battle with Raven Beak>end of the fight is basically "hah, just kidding he easily overpowers you"Like both feel like copouts.
>>729065346How does that AC6 guy compare to Black Manta?
>>729066251Iguazu is basically if Black Manta overpowered Thanos and Darkseid, just because he was that pissed at Aquaman.Kinda reminds me of someone else. Guy who just overpowers the main villain because he's got nothing left to lose.
>>729066170I like it as a way of Sylux's pettiness getting one last jab in despite losing, but I still understand the sentiment of it feelng unsatisfying.
>>729066321Good. I know it sounds stupid but it really helps if the villain literally says that they're only doing it out of spite. It feels like people are applying this characteristic to Sylux because there is no other explanation, but we don't get to have fun with it
I beat Dread a week ago or two as my first Metroid. Was pretty good, but it did feel a bit railroaded at times. It also felt like the counter was underutilised for boss fights. Or maybe I fucked up when I remembered to try it out.
Fusion is a phenomenal game. Blasphemous devs should make the next 2D metroid with pixel art. Dread had no soundtrack. If a metroid requires very technical steps to not be lineal then its a lineal game. The required collective items of the prime series are trash.
Is Ridley in Prime 4 or was that just shitposting
>>729066531>"Sylux is a resourceful tracker, and a deadly sharpshooter who harbors an intense hatred for the Galactic Federation and for Samus Aran for assisting the Galactic Federation in the past."Nintendo has made it clear for years that he hates samus's guts
>>729065837Nuance is a factor. James Earl Jones' performance in Fences is the better between him and Denzel Washington, but that doesn't mean Denzel's performance is without merit. The problem is Sylux's "underdog villain" story doesn't have a lot of merit beyond it being in a Metroid game. Sylux has been a character for almost 20 years, and this is his big moment? >>729065991AC6 undeniably has great characters, which was what was under discussion. >>729066321>>729066531Bingo. Pure spite gets Iguazu all the way from route 1 of AC6 to the true ending, and it's fucking beautiful.
the best part of prime 4 was when sylux said "IT'S SYLUX TIME" and syluxed all over those guys
>>729067250>and this is his big moment?It feels to me like they don't want sylux to be a one and done villain so they didn't want to shoot their full load with him yet. Yeah, it does feel a bit undercooked so far, but I don't think he's downright terrible or anything yet. His design is still cool and I liked his voice.
>>729065589>If they really wanted to play this up, they would ditch the whole crap about him controlling the lamorn tech and the healing pod, and have him be more cunningThe final phase (the best part of the fight) is much more in character. He even steals your e tanks
>>729067574Yeah that's the biggest reason why I'm not held up about how he was here. I'd be outright upset just like many others if he died in this game but he didn't.
>>729067159Yeah but he doesn't do anything particularly spiteful.
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>>729067876He spent the whole game sending robots at samus and even made some of them look like him just to fuck with her, and literally the first thing he does when he gets out of his pod is try to prevent her from escaping despite gaining nothing from it.
>>729068065He's not doing it himself so the gesture feels meaningless. If he was physically there halting Samus and shit talking the whole time it'd be good, as it stands it feels like nothing
>>729068251So you're just going to ignore the second part of my post? Literally the onlybtime we actually see him in game he's being a spiteful tard towards samus
>>729068024Fuck this game.
>>729068348Yeah and he barely speaks. He doesn't embody spite the way a spiteful villain should, he has absolutely no presence. Essentially what I'm saying is that he isn't fun like a spiteful villain should be
>>729068605his fight was kino (not the first phase lol) and his tardrage was funny
I love Metroid but I would never, ever, ever, ever play the NES original!
>>729042703Will never happen. Just play retro. Better games.
>>729068659Funny doesn't translate to good, unfortunately. Prime 4 tried too hard to be funny, when it needed to be serious.
Prime 2 and 3 on Switch when
>>729068659I don't even think he was particularly funny. The finale should have gone>Samus activates the teleporter>Sylux busts out of his pod and yanks her away to the 3rd phase immediately>as shes getting pulled away we hear them say that the teleporter is fucked from a false start so we have a time limit>then when we beat him he pops back and kills the grunts purely to fuck with Samus as she leaves
>>729068251>>729068348Not to defend Sylux too much but those bots are like astral projections, and his real body is allegedly wounded for him to need to still be in the pod (why we keep seeing flashes of him and his terrible backstory cutscene), which I am fine with, I don't have anything against the minimalistic involvement in story and cutscenes. The problem with him is the total lack of cohesion with the rest of the game. They didn't play to one of Prime's greatest strengths at all: all we needed was to get some scans about him like Prime 1 and 2's pirate logs, internalize and build up his presence while we were engrossed in the world. But Beyond barely bothered with lore scan. But then, they could have used Beyond's new features, the stupid feddies could have also said ANYTHING about him to build him up, or tie his backstory to one of them, but they didn't. It's like the people who developed Sylux and the people who developed the Feddies never met or coordinated. Huge shame.
I bought Metroid Prime Trilogy for Wii from some sketchy website I've never heard of before for like 40 bucks a couple weeks ago and it just arrived out of the blue today.What am I in for bros?
>>729050174I feel the same way. I remember playing Prime 3 when it launched and while enjoying it I was very disappointed. I’m only mildly disappointed with Prime 4
>>729048343Fusion and Smash 4 are the best
>>729055553This "artist" uses AI
>>729069578https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltW-emNP3YEKino
>>729069367I like Sylux a lot and even I was baffled by this. It's so weird that none of the Feds really talk about Sylux or bring up the general situation besides the fact that they're on the planet. I think there's ONE line from Myles at camp that mentions Sylux and that's it. No one wonders where he is. No one questions that he might be around considering he caused all this. Hell why do we not even have any Pirates to at least up the enemy variety a bit more? This is incredibly confusing because they MADE those enemies! They went out of their way to create Space Pirate enemies for Prime 4 and they only bothered to use them in the first 15 minutes of the game? Why? It can't be a laziness thing because again they're already right there, why not at least toss them around in a few places so it's not just grievers and robots.
>>729070152Yeah been saying this for weeks anon. Again I think that intro (and maybe the bosses?) were put together by a different faction of Retro or some contractors to act as trailer bait because barely any of the things in it made it to the actual game. You'd think they'd jump at the chance to remedy the atrocious enemy variety in easier ways but nope, have some more Grievers. Grievers 4eva. It's so baffling.
>>729069636Green Crystal shit aside I’d rather drive a cool bike for backtracking between areas than have to go back to the ship and sit through loading screens
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>>729066787>It also felt like the counter was underutilised for boss fightsOne of the main complaints about 3DS Samus Returns was that the counter was too overused which trivialized a lot of the encounters. Dread has a better balance in that regard while still keeping your main weapons, the arm cannon and the missiles, relevant.
>>729055620>Need a remaster to replay a game he liked
>>729068780Yep. Gotta love modern metroid "fans".
>>729038464i binges the whole series recently, up until then i only had Fusion under my belt.My favs ended up being Super, Am2r and then right below them, dread.i preferred planets over zero mission, i found the shinespark puzzles super annoying and the game was made more linear. i know about the secret shortcuts but i didn't like it still, i preferred the og's opennes.my least favorite ended up being samus returns (the official remake). way too clunky and annoying. dread is such a massive improvement it's not even funny.Should i give the prime series a go? what's the best way to play them?
>>729073828Primehack on PC. Turns the game into a proper shooter.
>>729073870interesting. should i emulate the gc version(s) or can i just emulate the trilogy on wii? how's the switch remake?
>>729073928Trilogy version is easier than the orignal GCN and Wii titles. Prime Remastered is great from what I've heard, but I never played it. Wasn't interested. No matter how you play them you'll be in for a treat. Prime 1 and 2 in particular are classics for any video game enthusiast, and 3 is just a good game overall. A sendoff for the Prime series before 4 came along.
>>729068780I mean, zero mission shits all over it.
>>729074019is 4 really that bad? my friend who got me into metroid swears by it (and i usually trust him on his tastes). like yeah, the whedon writing looks awful but aside from that?Also, is there a way to emulate other m? maybe with a controls mod so i don't have to get my wiimote out. all i found was a redux mod but that changes the game too much, i want the vanilla experience, just out of curiosity.
>>729074023You dont understand metroid. You should be killed for having such a stupud opinion.
>>729074023People like this are the reason metroid will never be good again.
>>729074023Metroid was never good
>>729074023yeah bro I love the pointless cutscenes, uncanny enemy animations, ugly as sin colors and art style, annoying as fuck and off-tone stealth section, pointless mystery upgrades, annoying sound effects, shitty compressed music, mediocre controls, soulless atmosphere, and pointless mini-bosses!But IM the "fake fan" if I enjoy the only game in the series simply called "Metroid"!Isnt that fucking awesome?! Arent people and gaming forums just great?!
>>729074523this is an infinitely better take and infinitely more honest than saying zero mission is a good metroid game and pretending to be a fan of the series. I appreciate your input way more than these drooling retards that dont fucking understand what makes metroid great but pretend to be a fans anyway.
>>729075016>but pretend to be a fans anyway.>A fans
>>729069578Probably an easier experience, overall. Prime 1 & 2 weren't designed around the Wii's control scheme, so enemies will likely seem dumber to you than they would have otherwise. Be sure to play on "Veteran" difficulty for Prime 1 & 2 because that's what Trilogy called what used to be "Normal" difficulty for those games. I've never run the numbers, myself, but I've also heard that some of the more infamous encounters (boost guardian) were nerfed in Trilogy, regardless of difficulty settings.It'll still be fun, though. Seems like most people try to experience the games with Trilogy.
>>729074150>is 4 really that bad? Do you know the Zelda series? If so, I will say Prime Beyond is a lot like Skyward Sword. It's chatty, undermined by poor gimmicks, extremely linear and disconnected level design, as well as padding, lack of scannable lore, recycled content and busywork. Yet the blueprint for a good game is still there, there are moments of atmosphere and isolation, the combat is up to par with previous Primes, the bosses are a modicum better and more fun than anything else in game, and the game runs looks and sounds incredible. What good is there is a victim of development hell as well as piling gimmicks on top of gimmicks.I give it a 6 out of 10 being generous, maybe a 5. It's just underwhelming and sad. Make your own judgement.
>>729074150Not him.>is 4 really that badIt's not *that* bad, but I think a 7/10 is a fair rating. It's technically competent but fairly uninteresting in terms of gameplay and story. I started a second playthrough on a whim to try out hard mode, and after messing around in the settings, I think the defaults are pretty bad. If you play the game, try upping the sensitivity of the sticks and the breakaway for gyro when locked on. I'm not going to beat one of the deadest horses in gaming; you already know the narrative is kind of a flop, especially in the context of Metroid. Grievers get 2 cools areas, but they're fucking everywhere. Psybots are tanky, boring, and fucking everywhere. One of the feds is actually pretty cool. Overall? I think it's about as good as Corruption, but I've also never been particularly fond of that game.>other m>just out of curiosityFirst off: it's not worth it. The game is bad in a boring way, rather than bad in a funny or entertaining way. Second: if you want the vanilla experience, you need to use a Wiimote. The game is usually dirt cheap online if you want to play it physically. Otherwise, you can set up sensor bar (first / third party) or even a couple of tea candles (look it up) and use a Wiimote with your emulator.
>>729074395You're a manchild lol.
>>729075042>minor typo
>>729074023Damn you really angered the fat neckbeard inbreds with this trvthnvke.
>>729075921I dont care what you call me just admit you dont give a fuck about metroid. They told me to never interact with the fandom yet here I am.
>>729076018admit you dont give a flying fuck about the video game series "metroid". Admit its just another game series in the pile for you. Nothing special. Dont ever call youself a fan if youre going to praise the soulless pile of shit known as zero mission.
>>729074023Based.
>>729076207troll
>>729074023Extremely based
>>729038464I really can't decide if I like Super, Zero Mission, Fusion, or Dread the most. They are all so fun.
>>7290779792D Metroid chads stay winning. The truth is they are all simply great.
>>729077979i think each game has its own strenghts, i dislike fusion's linearity, but the sound design and difficulty feels perfect for the mood it wants to create. Super is the overall best one but the controls are a bit clunky and weird, it takes some getting used to.
>>729075850>One of the feds is actually pretty cool.NTA, but I had a feeling there would be at least one tolerable fed. Which one is it?
>>729079627The robot
Will sylux ever be playable again
I like original 1 more than zero mission.I like prime 2 more than 1.I rather play other m over prime 3 or 4.Dread is just ok.
>>729081817Hopefully he will never show up again
>>729042374good ranking
Samus
>>729081817Nope. Not in a new Hunters (there won't be one) and not even in Smash.
Prime 4 fucking sucks cock. I had a yearning for more Metroid so I finally bit the bullet and found the 4K texture pack for primehack. Super easy setup, finally completed Prime and just started the absolute kino that is Echoes. Nintendo used to make good games.Oh. ACpedo is Erictranny is a NIGGER btw.
I fucking love Metroid, bros. Why does Nintendo try to pretend its not their best original series?
>>729074023tastelet
>>729083580Nintendo primarily makes toys for retarded vegetable toddlers and nostalgia-raped manchildren. They don’t actually know to handle an IP that is better-suited to treating the player like a sane adult with agency, and in Beyond that’s painfully clear. On God I wish Metroid wasn’t stuck with Nintendo. It deserves better.
>>729083580because Pikmin exists
>>729063527Exploration is a part of Metroid but so is tension and hostility. Being on an alien world is isolating enough but being thrust into an alternate dimension where the atmosphere itself kills you, every being is demonic and stupid strong and the landscape looks like a nightmare. Save stations are few and far between and making it back to one is a huge relief. When you step back into the real world it's like coming up for air. Trading off 'cozy' exploration is necessary to achieve this. It's also very ballsy and not something likely to be repeated by modern studios. The game was designed to get Prime veterans sweating.
>>729074848I don't hate Zero Mission, it's a B for me, but I have to agree the visuals and sound are really sauceless. It's such a downgrade from Fusion and I can't believe they both share the Wario Land 4 engine, I always thought it sounded so off because it was a new engine. I guess they wanted to make the music more retro-sounding to pay tribute to Metroid 1, and those chanting samples for the chozo ruins took a lot of space. Anyways the game also falls victim to retreading water from not only Metroid 1, but also Super Metroid which can be seen as a 1 remake, so it ends up having my least favorite versions of many bosses and themes in the series. It's not like they're awful or anything but it just feels like the most derivative Metroid game to date, it's got the least unique things to itself and the fact that it opened up after Fusion is what carries his reputation imo.That being said I do like the new content. Except for the final boss I guess, if it weren't for Phantoon in Other M I would think it's the most pointless out of nowhere final boss in the series, it feels really slapdash and unexciting, like some sort of formal obligation.
>>729082712 BASED
>>729038464Super is legitimately the 5th greatest game ever created
>>729083580To be fair, for all the doom and gloom the series has around, Nintendo has always cared about it. Despite low sales, ever since Fusion to this day, there's always been a Metroid in development, Sakamoto and Tanabe really cared about the series in their own ways. Yokoi's death could not kill it, Other M could not kill it, and Prime 4 will not kill it either.
>>729079627The sniper. He's essentially a bounty hunter for the federation, so he has a believable chemistry with Samus. Doesn't hurt that he barely has an escort section at all. I think he would have gotten more praise in a game with fewer character interactions.I guess the other guy saying "robot" has a point, but I didn't really like the way that character was used in the plot. Boring at best. Lame tension device at worst (i.e. the writers feel safe having the robot get hurt).
Hello, just popping in here to say to NOT fall for Snot propaganda about Prime 4's performance in Japan. It's one of their usual discouraging tactics to get people to think it's underperforming, just like their extreme comparisons to bigger Nintendo franchises to overwhelm others.It's doing great.>Switch 2 debut physical sales: 21k>Switch 2 debut digital sales: (3.5x times it's doing on the Switch 2)>Switch 1 debut physical sales: (likely 3/4 of what it's doing on the Switch 2)>Switch 1 debut digital sales: (2x times of what it's doing on the Switch 1)Calculate all these together and you have the best selling Prime game to ever debut in Japan. Which means a lot considering the last time a Prime game did great in Japan was Hunters and the first Metroid Prime game (both outsold Other M).What the Snots are actually fearing about is the CHADmerican sales which are already seeping in hints of groundbreaking, potentially Dread level, sales, especially on the Nintendo eShop (still Number 1 on week 2 LOL)It's gonna be a bloodbath for Snots once Nintendo unveils on how it's really doing.See you fellas in the upcoming Famitsu thread.
I'm a little greedy but i hope Smash 6 repeats Ultimate and give us 2 new Metroid reps again.I just want to see theate two jerks duke it with each other.
>>729084690wishing you a very merry car accident this winter, acpedoericnigger
>>729084954I think current Sylux would actually put Raven Beak on his knees.
>>729084954I wouldn't mind seeing Sylux or Raven Beak, but I'm also hoping they don't just cut Dark Samus and give her a proper moveset without keeping her as a glorified alt costume.
>>729083580Because it doesn't even sell as well as Donkey kong let alone Mario and Pokemon.
>>729085067>least obvious acpedo falseflaggingPrime 4 won bitch.Can't wait for Federation Force 2 btw
I gotta be honest guys.....I don't like getting lost. Super was a bit too much of an enigma for me.
>>729085151>Because it doesn't even sell as well as [snot comparison]
>>729085289>prime 4 won being on the same tier as the biggest piece of shit Nintendo has ever produced kek, getting called ACnigger is a new one THOUGH
>>729084954I'd take that over an exact clone like dark samus but I doubt we will ever get more than Samus, and zero suit. I'm not even sure Ridley will get back in.
>>729085478NOOOOOOOO don’t post this!!
What the fuck is this retarded brand of irony-poisoned larping and when did it take over /v/
>>729063527When I first played Echoes, I didn't like how the Dark World drained my health either, but on my 2nd playthrough I realized that it's not that hard to replenish health through item pickups. So, realistically, I wasn't that reliant on the light bubbles for health. Really, my complaint was how bullet-spongey the dark creatures could be on hard mode.>>729084954>Raven BeakUnlikely for a one-off villain.>SyluxProbably more likely unless Sakurai considers Dark Samus enough to represent the Prime series.
>>729085478>>729085531>79 is le badThe worse Xenoblade game in the 80-90sThe best 2D sonics are in the 70sShitshine should score less than 90 but you knowMetasharts don't matter
>>729085698>Unlikely for a one-off villainBecause that stop people before
>>729085743you are coping. and I understand, anon. mp4 being kusoge after such a long wait and after such promising early footage is a tough pill to swallow. but swallow you will.
>>729085743>The best 2D sonics are in the 70sCareful, you'll piss off another autist Sonic sect with that
>>729085289Yessssss, give me more TanabeslopGive me another corridor shooter that will give us another 2% of Sylux’s backstory in 15 yearsPLEASE Tanabe-sama~!
>>729069578Kino. Waggling is surpsingly the most fun and immersive way to play the Prime games.
>>729085885Prime 4 was GOATED, journos fucking suck. I hope it sells great to spite these nignogs.>>729085918Fuck them, i ain't afraid of them.The early/mid 2000s 2D Sonics were among the best.Fuck Sonic 4 though. Not sure what the hell happened there.
>download NES Metroid>install map + saving hackYep, it's gaming time.
>>729086000Tanabe failed upwards, Paperkek.You lose again!
>>729086161l, too, am a Metroid Worlds chads.
>>729086161First time or replay?
>acpedo is now hyperfixating on a game that is everything he purports to hate about gaming>he does this because the playerbase largely hates it and he must always take the contrarian position that will net him the most (you)’s even if it ultimately disgusts himKino. I love when shitposters experience cognitive dissonance. Hope that just eats you right up, schizo.
How did the remaster turn out so good
Sylux fucking sucks lmao
>>729086365Considering how dogshit Beyond is, that’s a great question. I guess Retro can at least follow a recipe.
>>729086345I wanna play a Metroid RPG in vein of Look Outside...
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>>729086421wasn't the prime remaster outsourced looking at the credits there's a shitton of other studios involved
>avatarposting as the IP’s biggest nothingburger villain I felt intense secondhand embarrassment when I learned the purpose of the Sylux amiibo is to be a fucking happy meal toy. You gotta find a different gimmick anon or you’ll never be taken seriously.
>>729086591Same story with Prime 4, there's like 20 contractors.
>>729086365Dunno, but they need to give Prime 2 the same exact treatment, ASAP.
>>729086658>[headcanon]Oh no, I'm just dumping all the funny amiibo voiceovers Sylux had.The replies are just a plus.
>>729086668but whyis it just to create all the unique assets
>>729086658ACfag loves Sylux because he’s an autistic loser with zero personality he can easily self-insert into. It’s not deep.
>not a single reference to Transmus in the game>showed respectful restraint towards their employer and their vision for the franchise >still warps the internetThey won chuds.
>>729086421>I guess Retro can at least follow a recipe.Most people can. From a business point of view, that's part of the appeal of producing remakes. It's not a coincidence that they only remake good games.>>729086760Echoes probably has more to gain from a remake than Prime did, visually, but I'll never understand the market demand for this kind of thing.
>>729087106He's basically a discount armored core anime bad guy, i can't blame him.
>>729087181kek when rata compared him to a discount iguazu i knew it was only a matter of time before acpedo ate this shit up
Keep buying motherfuckers
Maybe Sylux is a parody of ACfag, he hate Samus for incel reasons after all.
>>729086992I know dick about game development but I think that would explain the bike, the feds, that Halo-like intro and Mine stage, and why they all feel so disconnected from the rest of the game. And the fact that the feds have two heroic sacrifices. It's like everything in this game exists in a complete different dimension.
>>729087115I called it literal years ago, Tanabe and Sakamoto are literally too autistically defensive of the series to let some literal who storyboarder get away with something like this. Turns out, the game is a massive pile of shit for completely unrelated reasons.
>>729060132I love how people complained about the SA-X barely being in Fusion then turned around and complained that the EMMIs are in the game too much.
There's a rumor going around saying Metroid Prime 5 is already in production despite how Prime 4 do at all.I swear if we got all this shit and Prime 5 was the actual game BNS worked on before it got """"scrapped"""", im gonna blow a casket.
>>729042856You don't have an imagination. I pity you. The basic idea is that your brain tends to creativity fill the gaps giving you a more engaging experience. Like looking at the low-res 2d game and your brain creating an atmosphere based on limited context clues. Like how a child can be play in a box and imagine they're in a car or rocketship. Jaded adults and imaginationless fags like you would just see a plain box.
>>729074023Gigachad taste
>>729087732>There's a [headcanon]
>>729087732I mean, they already have the engine and most of the assets. Echoes is the best game in the original trilogy and was a crunched-out Frankenstein made of recycled Prime 1 parts and the alpha of a cancelled prime 2 concept. So maybe they next time around they’ll make something actually good, and not another mediocre corridor shooter full of yappy faggot redshirts.
>>729087115An actual tranny/leftist would at least work their way up before they can creep their corruption on major IPs.Just look how it went for Square-Enix.Nintendo however is hard to get by. They'll probably comply to keep the game PG for kids, but as soon as you ask them to make a character LGBT beyond what the producer/director wants, they'll ask you to get your bags and leave.This would take time to do, at least the troon know he can't slip a #samusistrans reference like how Sonic comic book writers slip in LGBT references without SEGA wrist slapping.
>>729087830It's from NashWeedle, i don't know how credible he is but apparently he's almost Midori/Nate tier according to people
>>729087746Welcome back.If you weren't such an insufferable (You) farmer, you might have a halfway-respectable point to make about minimalism and the role of imagination in videogames.Seems like you'd rather pick fights with inflamatory language that makes you sound like retarded middle schooler begging for attention.
>>729088170>NashWeedleIIRC he did have a legit source within Mercury Steam and was talking about a new 2D Metroid before it was revealed but I don’t think he actually has any insiders with Retro. He also hasn’t been very reliable lately
>>729087746And this is why open-world games are the best because you can imagine all the things that can fill up the emptiness.
>>729087590I hate EMMIs because they didn't have the balls to chase after you outside their zones.C'mon that would have been sick
>>729087732>>729087830>>729087971I can believe it. Nintendo doesn't mind sinking money into Metroid as evidenced by every Metroid that wasn't Dread or Super, and that would be a good way to make up for all the Prime 4 losses. We can only hope they take feedback into account the same way mercurysteam did with Dread.
>>729087732>BNSWhat did these people even work on before Nintendo bought them anyways?
>>729088615
>High series standardMetroid Prime 1, Metroid Prime 2, Metroid Dread, Super Metroid>I liked itMetroid Fusion, Zero Mission, Samus Return>Tolerable but not my favorite or least favoriteMetroid Prime 3>Dated aka did not age wellMetroid 2, Metroid Prime Hunters>Bad Metroid Other M>Failed game school design dogshit Reddit awardMetroid Prime 4
>>729088678>BerseriaEdgy Samus game soon?
>>729088719I would agree with you on all of this except for Hunters, I recently replayed it and while obviously a side dish it's not bad at all.
>>729088816No, we're getting a Metroid Prime game but Samus Power Suit unveils her amazonic armpits.
>>729088678>WorldOh they're just potiential Federation Force Remastered/2 devs, i see.
>>729088719>>Failed game school design dogshit>Other M not at the bottomMusou games are something even a middle schooler could do on their sleep, they're doujin tier as fuck titles, at least Prime 4 excels on everything else aside the green crystal collectathon.
>>729088678This is missing a lot of other games, they worked on Air Riders and Tekken 7/8
>bump limit reachedSee you next mission, based Metroid anons.
Sylux wonSamus lost
>>729063527Prime 2 is only punishing exploration at the start of the game, it's just a designers way of getting you to go where you need to, get the right staple power ups, and then suddenly the training wheels come off and it's not that threatening. It's certainly not half the game, unless you think Agon Wastes is half the game.
>>729089243>Next MissionOhohoho, there won't be another missing for you.
>>729055471
>>729089105>>729088872Keeping someone engaged is the duty of a game designer. Metroid Prime 4 is not a well designed game. If you played Mario games with invulnerability would it be fun? Just not being able to get a game over, no stakes, no danger, nothing. It would be boring. Metroid Prime 4 is a boring game for other reasons but it's fundamentally unenjoyeable to someone who is a fan of Metroid and Metroidvania games. Now to the other anon, Metroid Prime Hunters single player or multiplayer? Because the single player is/was a high point for its time. But the lore (log book scans) and bosses just don't do it for me. I'm pretty sure I must've seen that same tube boss cutscene a million times over the course of the game. Hunters doesn't get me mad in the way Other M and Prime 4 get mad so it's not a dumpsterfire. With how big our backlogs have gotten there's just too many Metroidvania games out there for us to waste time with Hunters. I liked it and participated in the multiplayer back baaaaaaaaaack in the 2004s but I don't care for it now. It's an impressive and technically sound game, it's a finished product for hardware that wasn't really meant to do 3D this hard. And it was 60FPS, right with voice chat in the multiplayer. Prime 2 had multiplayer so if I ever get the urge to piss around in Metroid multiplayer I'd pick that one.
>missingEscort this blue incel simp out of Norfair, gents.
>>729087746You can imagine a better game with 3D, I already gave a good example of that with Wind Waker. If it was 2D it wouldn't make much of a difference. I filled in the gaps of that game, despite naysayers like you thinking it only works for pixels and sprites.
>>729089401Stupid sexy Sylux
>>729087428>hating emotional femoids is now a bad thingSimping has done irreparable damage to the human race.Prime 4 still sucks btw.
>>729088528No, that would have been really fucking annoying.
>Samus, did i ever tell you how much i really hate niggers?>Ooooh, those stinky monkeys wrapped in tin cans. >Higgs, Ezra.....always on that Norion Curry.......GRRRRAAAAAAAH>I HATE NIGGERS SAMUS I HATE THEM ALL! THIS IS WHY I LEFT THE FEDERATION SINCE THE FIRST TIME LOOP!Why the fuck was this dialogue cut from the game?
>>729086345wtf are you talking about? At what point have I defended Prime 4 in this thread? Or are you in need of your meds?
>>729089976typical japanese/texan racismreminds me when Kelbaugh drew Dixie in a KKK outfit while hanging Chunky Kong on a rope.
Gimme tiddies
>>729090092can confirm this happened
>>729090221Me on the left
>>729089734You must despise yourself as well with all the emotions you keep showing.
>>729055471I fucking hate AQA so much, what a boring section of the game
>>729090634I do despise myself because i'm unfortunately made of meat and organic material.Long have I wished to discard this prison of flesh and enjoy the purity of metal and steel.Fuck human weakness. The day man can discard his fragile meaty shell is the day i'll be really happy. Until then.
I... still believe.
>>729090776There's a perfect way to shed the weakness of your human form.
>>729090776>I do despise myselfYou should kill yourself then.
>>729091041GOATmus GODran will return
>>729091117Nah, my hate of snoy movieshit is too strong atm. While trash like this is allowed to exist, there's too much work to do.
>>729091041If other m couldn’t kill Metroid, beyond won’t either. See you next mission.
>ACfag tries to shitpost >but everyone already hates the gameIt just isn’t the same.
>>729091426>everyone already hates the gameMission accomplished.
>game comes out>is bad>”I-I did this!”kek how embarrassing
>>729091602>game comes out>is bad>"I did this!"
Prime 4 is Good.
>give no (you)’s to retarded threadshitter>get free (you)’s in returnThanks Eric.
>tendie accuses others of being a threadshitter, while spamming famitsu threads left and right
