they fixed literally everything
>>729050305Looks like AIslop, his sword looks like its 2D and the proportions and angles are all wrong.
>took multiple expansions to get the paladin class in a demon-slaying gamelol lmao
So you're saying they completely revamped most-if-not-all of the classes to not focus entirely on boosting one single skill that you spam 90% of the time with maybe a single defensive or movement skill to augment?
>>729053737its funpoe2 forced comboing is retarded
>>729054391if you have to attack poe2 i don't think your game is fixedin fact I think you are lying
>>729050305>that will be $60 plus tipok goycuck/shill
>>729053737Other classes feel so goddamn slow compared to spirit born, at least at the start. Spiritborn feels like you're the fucking fist of the north star while other classes have to jog up to enemies, especially barbarian.
>>729050305There’s no enemy scaling?
>>729051560It really does and its driving me insane what exactly it is, because its not just the sword and not uust the proportions. The depth maybe or lack there of? Like why does the shield look like plywood? Like an actual flat texture just slightly "bent" at an angle? Why does his cape flow and billow and yet exist in the same plane as the rest of him? And whats with the background? I just don't get it, it feels fucking off in every way that screams AI but I feel like Im screaming the jews are in the bread.
>>729055161You are just assuming that humans can never make errors and that evey artist is autistic about details.This looks more or less in line with old western fantasy art. You could argue that blizzard post WoW has always had 'souless' art.
You're telling me a human made this?
>>729057180Yes, I make those mistakes as well. Look up rob liefeld. You give human artists way too much credit.
>>729054391>forced comboing wtf even is that? poe2 is worse than D4 for making you overinvest into one single ability you spam endlessly. Both games have dogshit combat and i quit both with despair.Still can't believe i paid soo much for a base copy of D4. Beyond ripped off. Last penny those kikes at blizzard are getting out of me.
Why are all the paladins in ARPGs niggers now? Let alone frankish paladins.
>>729050305metal on the outside (maybe if you like sabaton lmao) twink on the inside
forgot picrel
>>729050305
>>729058909Because the paladin in D2 was a nigger.>>729058732>wtf even is that?synergy skills. Especially evident for classes like Huntress where you have to prep up a couple of skills before you can use your big one shot skill. For sorc, it's combining a bunch of different elemental skills that drown enemies in debuffs and elemental resist shreds. That's been the meta for months now.
>>729058909>now
>>729054391>oh no, this dog is retardedvery organic thread btw, kys
>>729059309meds
>>729050305is paladin free for all of us who got suckered into buying this piece of shit game on release?
god I hope this neryelle character gets killed off what were they thinking with this garbage ass storyhaving to listen to this strong independent mystery meat woman for 2 whole campaigns
>>729059117player retention bros....
>>729059117>Steam is just a small sample size compared to Battlenet and console>Still has over 50% of it's all time peakDamn, that's pretty good.
>>729059528Free I think.
>>729059594its finally overwhat a dogshit campaign>only 20% of steam players have completed it
Please tell me you can disable the necromancer corpse visuals. What the fuck is this. This is so annoying coming off PoE2.
>>729060052>necromancer corpse visualswhats that? havnt played necro yet
>>729058909mines not a nigger
>>729059132so, builder and spender skills have become somewhat more elaborate. So you can scramble around, desperate to survive in a non-meta class or spec that is actually fun to play for 90% of the gameplay, until you can finally trigger the good skill and actually kill something.Great, sounds like the reason i quit still stands.
>>729054391i hate casuals so much its unreal. they poison everything they touch
>>729050305Paladins always reminds me of how i was alt right schizo long alt right was a thing. I'm not even white lmao
>vessel of hatred: 1 class>lord of hatred: 2 classesno im mad
>>729060102Remember necro in D3?Instead of d2 or poe where you simply highlighted enemy corpses, killing an enemy as a necromancer spawns an extremely distracting glowing generic corpse that you use as a resource instead. It's completely fucking annoying and immersion breaking. I really hate how much D3 onwards have gamefied Diablo and sacrificed coherent visuals for gaming clarity and accessibility.
>>729050305They got rid the live service model?
I unironically don't understand Diablo 4. There are so many weird ass systems and seasons and there is a battle pass now and shit. Like what is actually happening here.
>>729060671It's basically turned into the same model as poe but doubled down even more on live service. The game is basically a psuedo mmo.
>>729060750Well, I don't know about any other games like this. Guess I'm having a "dad gamer" moment. I remember I played Diablo 2 a lot back in the day, finished at least Nightmare difficulty on every character. I'd always get walled in hell though.I was just looking for a similar experience with this game. I don't appreciate being tied to timers and whatnot.
>>729060908Diablo sadly hasn't been just a single player game since D2. People complained about the always online shit since D3 came out in 2013 but with everything live service these days, this is what D4 ended up being now, a not!mmo complete with an open world map.
>>729059048>>729059009How is this twink? You are completely brainwashedLegitimate goal body
Necromancer is so flat holy shit
>>729061175thats a tranny
>>729050305Funny you made this thread cuz I just started playing it again after dropping the game a week after release. I'm still in the first act so hard to say if I'll get into it honestly. But one thing I will give the game is it has peak aesthetics.
>>729053737That's how Diablo 2 was.Trappasin, Seeker arrow, hammerdin, orb sorc, etc, etc.
>>729061219im in the same boat as you, but just finished the expansion campaignnow I see how the endgame isblessed hammer paladin is atleast fun to play
>>729060468The reason for that is because unlike D2, D3 and D4 enemies can get their corpses totally gibbed, vaporized or thrown off ledges/other inaccessible areasSo now they just have them drop a generic corpse thing where they initially die because otherwise you would have dramatically less bodies to use
>>729060287Did anyone else go on tirades about how tyrael turning out to be a black angel was blizz attempt at subtly brainwash people into loving black people?
>>729062395Pretty sure people did yeah but that was 13 years ago. But this is blizzard. One of the most woke devs on this earth.
>>729050305Can I play it with Necromancer that uses as much skeletons as possible?
>>729050305Oh, so they added monk yet?
>>729062524I was 17 when d3 came out and on /v/. Didn't see anyone talk about it like that outside of my right hand man
>>729062395Between D2 and D3 I think people werent supposed to put tyrael in any pedestal higher than a street curb. Hes the Archangel of jobbing
>>729050305For real? It's an actual game now like Diablo 1 and not just a cash shop with an always online Skinner box on top?
>>729062754Spiritborn.
>>729062715Scanning the skill tree, lol no. PoE2's witch is unironically closer to D2 minion hordes. D4 Necro is all about corpse explosions and poison novas because those were the meta back in D2 so minion builds are a complete after thought.
>>729058664
>>729058610
>>729062907It wasn't a matter of how powerful he was. He's an npc
>>729061162high cheek bones, eye shadow, botox lips, trimmed chest hair, need i go on?
>>729051620and they still haven't added diablo yet
>>729060381>Get VoH if you buy LoH>Don't get a discount if you already own VoH This really pisses me off
>>729064359At this rate, he'll probably be the last dlc since they seem to intend to have 6 dlcs for d4.
>>729062949They added 4 different $25 premium skins for paladin the day of release but the fashion system is still broken.If you think you hate blizzard you dont hate them enough
>>729054391TRVKE
>>729050305nigger
100% chance they are hiding it's a nog.I wouldn't give Blizzard a nickel if it would cure cancer.
>>729064762The trailer already shows a black paladin. The game also has character creation, so you can just make him white.
lmao just the existence of AI has artfags completely mindbroken. They refuse to use it or understand anything about how it works so they keep feeding their own delusions.A 3 year old with down syndrome could make better art with AI than picasso.
>>729063226darkness necro is a fun dot build desu
>>729050305You can finally play offline? No shot
>>729063268>>729063393>>729063534AI slop in a 100 dollar game?
>>729060468>Remember necro in D3No because they went superjew on that too trying to sell it seperately because they knew it would be the most popular class.
>>729065131That's exactly what I'm using since minions look so awful in this game.
>>729064762my paladin
>>729065396Your paladin has a Blizzard marketing watermark on it? Your job is going to get redeemed posting like this.
>>729060259I don't see how you feel like you belong in this genre. Classically this was a build and loot heavy type of genre before you retards came and needed to add rollslop. POE2 is garbage with me having to discern every goddamn pixel otherwise the poison pixel kills me under 2 seconds if i don't roll like a retard. Now every game does this shit and its annoying as hell, Titan Quest is now this, Last Epoch is this..every goddamn ARPG turned into a bdsm simulator because of you retards
>>729050305trans game
>>729065463naw when I print screened it and pasted it into paint it added the watermark and i had to crop it to get the filesize down to post to a friend the other day
>>729059117That's a pretty impressive number for steam considering most people playing D4 bought it on Battle net
>>729050305>paladin is black woman
>>729060468It's called visual clarity - I'm not surprised a PoE brainlet can't appreciate it considering how your entire game is visual vomit. Corpses can also be entirely destroyed by elements and ragdoll over the terrain.
The world design is just so goddamn boring. It's one of those open the map up and choose an adventure games but wherever you go feels the same not only in terms of dialogue but also aesthetically. The music might as well not even be in the game it's that dreadful. I love Diablo 1 and 2. Eventually I started to like 3. I don't see that happening with 4. The only aspect of it I genuinely like is the cutscenes.
>>729050305I might give the expansion a shot if people say good things about it. I actually liked 4 as a podcast game.
>>729061175>Can make a fat, ugly cow>Can't make a busty, confident womanWhat does Blizzard have against women with impressive sweater puppies?
>>729065859>The only aspect of it I genuinely like is the cutscenes.apart from pretty graphics, the cutscenes are fucking dogshitdont think i've seen a single good cutscene from blizzard after WOTLK
>>729061175i will now play your game
>>729064303you customize face>trimmed chest hairlooks normal, i have similar
>>729065232It was never about reducing the game's price, only the game's cost
>>729063134>wild tribal crapMiss me with that shit
>>729054568The first time I play Diablo 4 I ended up respeccing late game into some build that revolved around mashing the basic skill that dashed and hit at the same time so I was just jumping onto everything.
>>729065996he says while posting a character that isn't made by the playeryou're not very smart are you
>>729050305there's no fixing that kusoge
>>729066992I say because Blizzard doesn't make that kind of character, at all. Player made or not.
>>729050305Cool.Will still not play it or buy it.
>>729064359isn't mephisto the big bad guy in this game anyway? it's some kind of multiverse shit
>>729063393i thought so too but he puts his left leg forward and the right is behind, so it makes sense
I'm having fun. Deus Vult
>>729050305sooner or later they will take of his helmet and he will be black.
>oh boy cant wait to see what it sanctifies as>+5 item levelFUUUUUUUUUU
>>729050305>metal>looks like gay marvel shitTHIS looks metal as fuck. Like some The Ruins of Beverast cover
>>729050305This game is still alive?
>>729064803>>729065718>>729068763The paladin is whatever you want because every class has character customization in diablo 4 you fucking tourists
>dibalo 4 thred >wheres dibablo?>this season too quick>lilith saggy milky baggy waggys >paladin GOOD>y u play this when d2??>poe2 great>poe2 awful>THREAD DELETED BY WoW JANNIE
>>729058732Bro it’s $50 that’s like 2 burgers relax
>>729059117POST THE BATTLE.NET AND PS5 NUMBERS RIGHT NOWYou won’t because you’re scared.
I thought PoE2 (and the dozen other fotm ARPGs) were suppose to kill Diablo 4?
>>729061175She hasn’t had kids yet what do you expect
>>729061287>that's how a game made 25 years ago was due to engine and hardware limitationsOkay and?
>>729059117D4 came to Steam a year after the game's release, newfriendo.
I haven’t played 4, but 3 is a better game than 2 and I’m convinced that people shit on it because they’re aging boomers afraid of changeThey had to wait so long for 3, they kept playing 2 and became comfortable with its systems and nonsense (like trash loot that doesn’t scale properly 99% of the time, bad leveling that can actively hurt you if you don’t have a build in mind, etc)You think 2 is better because you know it and are familiar with it3 is just a better game all around with a much more natural progression path>it’s brain dead!!!It’s an arpg
>>729059132>the paladin in D2 was a nigger.At the least the dude which the paladin was based on was a developer of the game.
>>729070795Diablo is too big and the other games take too much from it. All the current ARPGs are basically:>this is our fanmade sequel to Diablo IISo any genre that sticks to an instalment like that, will always have to beef with that ACTUAL ongoing series
>>729070890Well you're missing out because 4 is a better game than 3 and I’m convinced that people shit on it because they’re aging boomers afraid of changeThey had to wait so long for 4, they kept playing 3 and became comfortable with its systems and nonsense (like trash loot that doesn’t scale properly 99% of the time, bad leveling that can actively hurt you if you don’t have a build in mind, etc)You think 3 is better because you know it and are familiar with it4 is just a better game all around with a much more natural progression path>it’s brain dead!!!It’s an arpg
>>729070890I like 3 too but the cartoony art style is a bit off putting. 4 Is better anyway but it's riddled with MTX
>>729070890Diablo 3 existed before Loot 2.0 and its bad rep because of its shitshow release is warranted.And it suffered from the warcraftization everything Blizzard did post-WoW suffered. Even StarCraft 2. YMMV if you enjoy it or not.
>>7290708902’s overrated, but no one wants to admit to it. The nostalgia for that game is insane. It’s like if people didn’t shut the fuck yo about Mario 64 every time a platformer came out.
D4 and Poe2’s combat has ruined older arpgs for me. In older games, you basically just walk up to enemies and click them. I think the controller schemes from D3 and Dark Souls changed the whole landscape.
>>729071172It's very rightly and justly rated. Coming to D2 from D1 was marvelous.The problem people have is parsing how a new product can be objectively better than the old one even if it isn't as good as the old one was when it was released.
>>7290711722 is still better than 3 or 4. You don't need to have nostalgia to understand that.Unless you're a fucking zoomer who needs to see 20 million effects on the screen and 12 billion damage pop ups to get your little dopamine addiction fed.
>>729071276>needs to see 20 million effects on the screen and 12 billion damage pop upsYes. Yes I do.
post the paladin gameplay lmfao
>>729071503I'm sorry
How can arpgs fix the melee class problem
>>729071625What problem? They die all the time?
>>729071276Objectively the series gets better as it goes along. The only thing to argue about is the atmosphere of the games and tone, with the gap between 2 and 3.
>>729051560>>729055161>>729057180I really fucking hate you AI slop brained faggots who know nothing about the art industry and now think everything that has a imperfection is obviously AI slop when a majority of you don't know the first thing about any of this shit yet somehow are the masters of it.>REEE MY CONCEPT PAINTING ISNT PERFECT OH MY GOD!I love how nobody says shit about all the small shortcuts taken in the picture itself to rush it out.
>>729071668>Objectively the series gets better as it goes along.WRONG
>>729071825oh ya.Explain the skip story mode where you can press a button and skip the entire shitty campaign?Exactly.
>>729071825In an objective sense, not,>oh durr d2 suck ass lmaoIn terms of combat, class design and story, it gets better as it goes along. A lot of other games make the mistake of trying to retread Diablo II because what they’re craving is the atmosphere.
>>729072123>combatIf you're a fucking zoomer who needs high APM with constant visual garbage then yes>class designarguable>storyKEK
>>729071779>who know nothing about the artClearly they do know since they gave concise descriptions of your shitty art. So either you are an AI "artist", or you're even worse, a Human "artist" who is as shit as blundering AI.Either way tracks for Woke Blizzshart this decade anyhow.
>>729050305good for you, I don't like diablo tho.
>>729072259That’s people playing broken endgame meta builds. The base combat of D2 is very grounded and focused on a singular skill to deal with enemy groupings quickly, because there’s no way to create space. Even in the early moments of D3, the game has already eclipsed the combat design of D2 just from the simple addiction of more crowd control skills from the outset.
>>729072279>concise descriptions of your shitty art. So either you are an AI "artist", or you're even worse, a Human "artist" who is as shit as blundering AI.Thats all I needed to know you was retarded, thank you a lot for helping it. Ill print this post off and share it around the office so we can laugh.God I love coming here these days before work and seeing posts like these, it reminds me of what I used to be, crying on /v/ about video games before actually making them.Stay broke and mad while others succeed, even if they do stumble, they still did something more then you ever have or will.
>>729072393>D3 eclipsed the combat design of D2LOL, lmao even
>>729072430>you was>Ill >print this post offDO NOT REDEEM SAAAAR
>>729072430TL;DR>Blizzdrone mad that Human artists at Blizzshart are so shit, that AI looks good in comparisonCry us a river.>Human hands made this vomitslopHope Blizzshart goes the way of Ubishart and gets sold to China by Microshart. You deserve it.
>>729072310Too late you posted in the thread now you have to preorder lord of hatred ha ha what were you thinking dude
>>729059117Its on gay pass and nudiablo fans are just normies. so it genuinely might be a lot higher than this. still not playing
>>729072521That’s the WRONG GAME oh no bro, bro posted the wrong game in the thread
>Live service sloppa>Can't even kill Diablo>Blizzard in 2013+12
>>729072521But they would have to buy Microsoft at this point, how is China going to do that?
>>729058732I don't know how people still fell for it. Diablo 3 was the first and only game I pre-ordered and it was beyond shit.
>>729054568Barb is slow as shit when you first start one, but by the end game they are fucking rocket ships when it comes to speed clears
>>729072680Why would they have to? The way they are ru(i)nning the gaming division and bleeding money, they'll have no choice than to sell companies.
>>729061175Necromancers are supposed to look skeletal ya dingusNobody complains the male necro isn't jacked as fuck
>>729072774This dumb logic. The barbarian doesn’t look like an axe and the Druid doesn’t look like a bear so
>>729072521>Thinking I work at Blizzard.TOPPEST OF KEKS! You faggots ate my shit up last month, thread after thread and Ive been swimming in /v/ tears ever since.>>729072494>Thinking i would actually give a shit about typing here.Bigger kek.I warned you people before, the more you cry, the more it inspires me to destroy and shit up video games so you cant have any joy anymore with this hobby.I warned you all not to inspire me to achieve, and now here I am, with out eating up slop I and others churn out and you still buy it. You don't deserve good video games and ill make sure you never get them again.Who you gonna turn to then huh? Indie games? HA!YOU WONT EVEN BUY THOSE!
>>729072956>reddit spacingkys retard
>>729072430the seethe dripping from this post is fucking TANGIBLE
>>729072753I miss my launch HOTA buildYou'd basically instagib bosses and other players (very fun ganking people trying to cash out in the PVP zones with that build, they'd just splatter in one shot, drop all their blood spaghetti and get very mad)
>>729050305>MetalBlizz gamer dads need to find a new hobby
ALL THE DIABLO SCHIZOS ARE HEREIN THE RED CORNER WE HAVE: THE ACHIEVERIN BLUE: theeeeeeee BLIZZARD. ANTI. SHIIIIIIIIIILLLLLThe DIABLOOOOOOOOOOO. TWO. BOOOOOOOOOOOOO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
>>729050305notice how he uses the same shitty tittle format for shilling garbage and shitting on nintendo alike. noticenoticeandnotice again
>>729073117>Can we just appreciate how lit the Paladin drip is? Shit goes hard asf
>>729073003I love how easy you fuckers are to manipulate with this shit.Keep going, I promise you, ill lurk here, find the next big game you assholes love, and find a way to infiltrate it and destroy it too while elevating slop games like Arc Raiders.
>>729072629That's a Blizzshart game, with Blizzshart production quality, with Blizzshart artists. Blizzshart is written across it.
>>729073285larp harder ESL
>>729070845ur in a thread celebrating the re re release of a 25 year old character buddy this is a cult now drink the kool aid or go play roblox
>>729054391Another day, another arpg slopper hating actual gameplay. It never stops being sad.
>>729073285No… stop… DONT RUIN DIABLO FOUR DISCUSSION ON V
>>729057180If your sword isn't bent, you're not using it enough.
>>729073425>Larp harder.I don't think you understand what I am explaining to you anon so let me try a little harder.You think you shit posters here have any real power? You dont.But what you did do, was inspire me and others like me to shit post in real life.I don't mean protests, I don't mean voting for Trump to own the libs.I mean purposefully join institutions with the explicit idea of destroying them, trolling, and ruining them just because its funny.I only come here now to laugh, and enjoy how many games are now ruined, and its the same with movies, the same with tech prices.Did you expect a bunch of selfish autists to sit around doing nothing when we could be ruining neets favorite hobbies?The only thing we cant touch is anime, but you know what can? Money, money to help make sure Japan is filled with the exact people who ruin things.
>>729072956You can't shit up what Blizzshart already sharted up buddy. They don't deserve to continue existing as an entity, just like Bioware, just like Ubishart.
>>729072757Well don't get me wrong, I hope it happens but it sounds too good to be true...
>>729073218Better, One is a 20-something. The other is putting off responsibility for the crotchlings he made as a result of spooging in the first 4/10 that said yes to them.
>>729050305You can't fix a game with a massive cash shop that is there for the faggot as land whales.
>>729072956I dont think you work at Blizzard. I don't think you're a video game dev at all and just posting shit to troll people here.
>>729073619Faggot ass landwhales have migrated to gacha where women are designed to be erotic. Diablo IV appeals to nobody anymore. It has no audience, what little audience it gets in terms of looney troons tends to suicide over time.
>>729073587>You cant shit up companies you already shit up.Worked at Blizz for 2 years during the shitification.Worked at Ubisoft for 1 and really pushed hard to execs to cut features to save money.Worked at bioware for 1 year and pushed DEI ideas and REALLY pushed for lgbtq representation.Am I a tranny? maybe.Who knows.
>>729070890Diablo 3 gets a lot of unnecessary shit but it’s not better than 2. Diablo 2 had a way better loot system. It’s the gold standard for ARPG loot. The difference between a good item and a great item is subtle. Most loot that drops on the ground is relevant for something. Runes give a sense of progression. The barter trade system is unique and unlike any other game that I’ve ever played. So many many many different items are valuable for different reasons. Loot is almost never a complete upgrade, it’s always a side grade. Because of that it’s always exciting to find a new piece of good gear. Great drops are rare but not so rare that you never see them, making them exciting each time it happens.Moment to moment gameplay Diablo 3 is probably better, but its loot system sucks. Originally it was designed for the RMAH and thus loot that dropped was mostly garbage. Then with RoS they made loot both extremely broken and extremely common, making it irrelevant. You could get full BiS in like a day of farming, and the rest of the time is just spent min maxing some of the rolls on the gear or looking for ancients/primals.I get bored of Diablo 3 after making a seasonal character and doing all of the milestones in like 15 hours. I never get bored of playing Diablo 2 and it’s the one game I keep coming back to time and time again.That being said they’re both better than the micro transaction shit fest Diablo 4,
>>729073698of course you did Rakesh
>>729073619I’m the CEO of a company and I buy the battle pass to support Diablo. Now what. Oh you got nothing to say? You didn’t say shit about Fortnite’s battle pass. That’s what I thought.
>>729073634You are right.I don't.I work with a consulting firm you dip shits cried about before we created a subsidiary company under a different name to continue the work.
>>729068818cool world of warcraft item lmao
>>729073760There are no microtransactions outside of aesthetic shit in 4. That’s Immortal
>>729065859Easily the worst part of D3 was the open world, which they basically made completely irrelevant in the final patches of the game. I don’t know why they decided to make Diablo 4 open world and act like that’s what people wanted.They literally learned nothing from Diablo 3, like at all.
>>729065038>A 3 year old with down syndrome could make better art with AI than picasso.And actual people with intact souls still wouldn't want to see or use it because it's not made by a human. Simple as.
>diablo iv vs path of exile 2
>preorder expansion>get world of Warcraft housing items to use in wowI get the feeling people who decorate their house in WoW don’t play diablo
>>729073857Cosmetics are still micro transactions and the game shills the ever loving fuck out of it. That didn’t exist in Diablo 2.
>>729073910All of these games are open world. Even Diablo II is. They’re all overworlds with dungeons, that’s the genre. I lose my marbles every time people rag on d4’s overworld like it’s some assassins creed map
No, it's not. It's still a shitty Activision live service product wearing the skin of Diablo. Actual Diablo died when people bought Diablo 3 on launch and got told that they can't even play it.>inb4 pooeAlso live service garbage. Funny that you fags only talk about these 2 games, almost like you have terminally shit taste.
>>729073810Again. I don't think you do.
>>729074006My point being Diablo 4’s focus on an open world is a mistake when Diablo 3 also had a big sprawling world they people hated. No one wanted to do bounties in Diablo 3, they just wanted to do greater rifts which is why they removed the bounty requirement for rifts.If diablo 2 had some sort of rift system, no one would explore the open world either because no one gives a shit about an “open world” in an ARPG.
>>729073990They just weren’t popularised in games back then. You’re equating it to thinking a game from 2001 was above it back then and made the hard moral choice to not include them. Ongoing games can’t sustain themselves of a base game price for 2 years in between expansions. Well, Diablo can, but why lose out on the money. Diablo 1 is nearly a mobile game from 1996 with how it plays.
>>729057180I've seen humans do way worse. Look at the knees/calves. Most artists are dogshit, why do you think AI still sucks?
>>729074006No they aren't, nigger. The worlds in Diablo 2 and it's clones are almost built like big dungeons with entrances to "actual" dungeons. They're linear and lead you down a path from the start of the act to the begining of the next one, with some side paths here and there but that's it.
>>729050305nice cardboard shield
>>729074145Keep thinking it.and I will keep coming here, to see what games you assholes are excited about next, so I can help push our consulting firm into the developers and shit it up with our bad ideas.You would never imagine the lengths devs like Square would go to if they could get loans for 1% They would even put a pointlessly gay character in a major title that serve no other purpose then kissing a man.This is what you fuckers get.
>>729074165>Ongoing games can’t sustain themselves of a base game price for 2 years in between expansionsNot my problem. Maybe it's about time AAA studios learned how to have a proper budget and NOT treat customers like cattle.
>>729074157The open world isn’t the problem, it’s the enemy mobs roaming around that add nothing. MMOs have had this issue unaddressed for decades.The problem with the open world is that it still plays like a dungeon. That’s the problem.
>>729050305Pet peeve of mine: giant plate armor + giant tower shield (or any shield really) is completely redundant. They are already wearing their shield on their bodies. Whatever attack can penetrate your armor can also penetrate your shield.You have a big fat armor so you can use big fuckoff two handed weapons!
>>729074217That is exactly what d4s world is: a big area you roam through that has little dungeon entrances. You have to remember that D2 was an “open world” back in 2000. You literally walk around tundras and deserts aimlessly.
>>729073990>micro transactions25 bucks for a skin is not "micro"
>>729059048ok now post the female paladin
>>729073760The loot in D2 is fucking BORING. Everything being a sidegrade does the exact opposite of what you said, it doesn't make loot exciting but fundamentally uninteresting. None of it does anything interesting. It's an endless list of boring stat sticks with boring stats.
>>729074298Yours is the perspective of an internet kid that’s out to get the man. You can’t pull back micro transactions and glamour vendors at this point, it’s too ingrained and people keep buying. Doesn’t matter “I’m above it”, that’s how it is.
>>729074452It is when you got money baby
>>729073940Your feeling is wrong. There's a bigger overlap than you might think.
>>729074165>why lose out on moneyI guess if you don’t give a shit about brand image or making a quality product, sure. If you only give a shit about milking every last penny out of an IP, then do what blizzard is doing.
>>729073760>is relevant for somethingOh come the fuck on.
>>729074330the open world doesn't play like a dungeon, it plays like an open world; that's the problem. you constantly have to run around, dismount (not that making the map so huge that you need a mount isn't retarded as well) to interact with environment objects that otherwise block your movement, collect stupid fucking collectibles that give you character power, etc. all of which directly contradict the A part of A(ction)RPGs
>>729074494>endless list of boring stat sticks with boring statsI also love D4 itemization, like "+69% cum damage on enemies affected by the horny debuff between 11:30 and 11:45 on a Sunday if it's raining"
>>729074382It looks cool though.
>>729074292Nah man. You made it way too obvious with this one.
>>729074678It doesn't. It's generic and boring as fuck
>>729074498Fuck off nigger. I will only accept paid cosmetics and shit if it's some small studio making the game because that's the kind of people who actually need extra money. It's like how I had no issue with getting all cosmetic DLC's for deep rock galactic because the game is great and you can just get lots of skins by playing the game anyway.A big corporation asking you to pay like 20 bucks for a skin is mental, especially considering that's enough money to buy Torchlight 2.
>>729074640You can meme all you want but yes, that's better. Now i have to create the situation in which i get the +69% cum damage and my gameplay changes as a result. That is absolutely more engaging than hitting a cast speed breakpoint so your fireballs per minute go from 20 to 21.
>>729074730>you made it to obvious.Keep telling yourself that.I learned something wonderful not to long ago, that all the heart and love for the craft in the world will never make you money.But being a vindictive fucker who destroys everything will.after all, its what /v/ did by attacking so many developers non stop right. You showed me how easy it was.
>>729074598If you don’t do it, the player base will with RMT and mods, no?You’re overvaluing the artistic integrity of a game with super simplistic combat that is meant to be a dopamine grind for loot.And so D2 is a 26 hour RPG that people stretched out to 1200 hours anyway, complete with made up endgame activities. If Metroid did this stuff, then we’ve got a problem. But Diablo? You gotta take some stuff for what it is sometimes.
>>729074759wrong lol.
>>729074625What’s the middle ground? Because I’m walking around like a retard in procedural maps in poe2 for 23 minutes trying to find a door
>>729072929>Druid doesn’t look like a bearanon...
>>729074603Gray and white items are necessary bases for runewords and rolls on these items matter.Blue items can have some of the best rolls in the game like gg claws. A good blue item can also get imbued to become an incredible item. Amulets and rings can also be used for crafting.Yellow items can roll better than uniques, some of the best items in the game are random yellow items. Gloves, helms, amulets, rings, and boots in particular.Uniques have the best chance of being good as it’s the highest class of gear in the game.
>>729074849I think you’re underestimating how harmful turning your game into a storefront for a cosmetic shop is to your brand image.I have absolutely no desire to ever play a new Diablo game again thanks to this latest installment. Blizzard has completely destroyed any prestige the name “Diablo” ever had.
>>729074942>Yellow items can roll better than uniquesBad game design.
>>729074904Look at how jacked that fucking bear is. There’s no way you could fight that thing. No fucking way. In a fight in the cage it’s controlled but a bear like that is just going to rip you apart. Look at its arms. Jamie zoom in on the biceps. That’s wild. That’s wild.
>>729075073People were saying the same thing about Phantasy Star back in the same year. >im not paying a monthly fee to play a fucking game Sega can suck my dick they’ve ruined the classic RPG brand
Blizzard fanboys when I show them how to unsubscribe from WoW, delete their Blizzard account and then get Grim Dawn on Steam
>>729075073>be me>buy D4>see there's a cash shop for skins>look through them>say "that one looks kinds cool" a couple of times>say "eh">close it and never look at it againIt's that simple. I like the normal armor you get ingame.
>>729072956This is the unhinged retard samefagging in E33 threads
give me a fun class to play in diablo 3
>>729075174This. I genuinely don’t know how people even buy the cash shop armour it looks like something you’d see in some shitty mmo like tera or blade and soul
>>729075154I can tell you 10 years ago I looked forward to new blizzard games. Now I couldn’t give any less of a shit for blizzcon or any other announcements. Their name is in the dirt now.
>>729075174>buy D4>buyThat's where you fucked up
>>729075338They’re all basically the same. Get the broken set bonuses, press the cooldown buttons and walk around while everything melts.
>>729074942You said "most of the drop is relevant", not "every drop tier has a 0.001% chance to be relevant", that's 2 completely different things.
>>729075286>This is the unhinged retard samefagging in E33 threadsI love it, you idiots will even start lying to sound smart.This is why I do it /v/.You showed me what devs you loved, and who you hated.What you hated in games and what you loved.you are the best marketing experiment in history with all the information you share.AND THE BEST PART! YOU WILL STILL BUY IT!Hate watching, hate playing, you still buy it to hate it and then when you cry online, you inspire others to try it out, and it spreads like a virus.GOD THANK YOU!
>>729074762>im extremely entitled and unreasonable >i also have a hugely inflated sense of self worth and genuinely think virtue signaling about MTX on the internet will make a real difference.You're such a retarded faggot its incredible. Its a live service game which runs who knows how many servers around the world 24/7 for people to play on. They will need constant upkeep to keep them running, optional cosmetic MTX is a perfectly fair way to do this and considering how many cosmetics we've all already farmed for free from paying for it, the game is quite fair price-wise.Of all the stupid shit to bitch about, you choose this? cringe.
>>729075384Right, the company behind the loot clicker, the modern mmo, the Korean tv time game and the hero shooterOkay bro. Just relax and play Warcraft II.
>>729050305What's a Paladin?
>>729075464Whatever, autist.
>>729075630>Its a live service game which runs who knows how many servers Yeah. That is also why it's garbage. Thought people learned their lesson when Diablo 3 was always online, but Blizzdrones gotta blizzdrone.Also if you're literally incapable of keeping a game afloat without designing it like a mobile game and wanting to rape everyone's wallet until it's completely dry... maybe the concept was flawed from the start?
>>72907481710/10 larp
>>729075338Monk. Make the speed farming build that uses 4p thousand storms and 6p Inna's.
>>729075845Making money off autists tears isn't a LARP, its now a career.It started with posting Anita videos and rage baiting people to her youtube channel to generate ad revenue.It spiraled into creating a group who supported her and it kept building, it was the most wonderful lesson in marketing I ever had.YOU CAN MAKE MONEY JUST BY TROLLING!
>>729075793are you just whining for the sake of whining? they made a live-service game, are you illiterate? both text-wise and economically? This is how these games work, they require constant funds coming in to continue to work on the game and maintain the servers, this is not rocket science, and they aren't doing anything obscene. Find something real to bitch about, maybe try screeching in a gacha-game general? do you even play this game? you seem very unhinged, maybe try touching grass faggot. The game is quite fun, its not 'garbage', you soap boxing cringelord.
>>729075908110/10 jesus christ it's a hue larp
>>729075908you've said literally nothing new or profound, probably in your entire life, i can't even call you a midwit or a pseud, you're ~90iq at best. Shut the fuck up you reddit spacing retard and go back to your containment website. You're just a living meme from 15 years ago, nothing more.
>>729075653I am not entirely sure
>>729076023>HE SAID IT AGAIN!I have purposefully used different spacing in almost every post and interchanged it.I have mispelt words non stop to get called SAARYou guys are the fucking best!BUT PLEASE!Let me lurk the threads for the next game you look forward too, I promise you, I will find a way to make it fucking gay and retarded.
>>729075630The live service aspect serves no purpose. The multiplayer isn’t fun nor is it necessary. Single player game with peer to peer multiplayer would be just as good.It’s only live service because of DRM.
>>729075845You can really tell its the school holidays.
>>729075156>grim yawnlmao
>>729076040You Knowledge of the land shall be great.
>>729076114Not heard that in awhile.I can tell you are an old fag.I better steal everybodys money and run off to mootsico too!
still looks like mobile slopstill has stiff animationsstill has horrible ui
>>729075930>This is how these games work, they require constant funds coming in to continue to work on the game and maintain the servers, Then the whole concept is shit. Especially considering it demands that your playerbase get milked with microtransactions in their PAID PRODUCT while also getting raped by all the usual crap that come from always-online DRMs.Thanks for admitting that "diablo" 4 belongs on the same shelf as gacha garbage though, blizzdrone redditor.
>>729075349>>729075174pretty much thisleft is free from normal armor dropsright one is like 30 dollars or whatever
well, brazilian larper asidedoes the game still scale enemies with the player?
>>729076318right one needs more spikes to be cool
>>729074165>muh poor 70B $ blizzardmaybe cut the 100M CEO bonus and record high margins and pay that to people who do actual work instead
>>729076326Yes, because of the open world.>this new captcha with the diceFucking hell I have no time for this shit
It’s funny how the whole opinion of the game flipped with one class reveal. I haven’t heard any negative feedback about the season or Paladin.
>>729076408this season did alot of good on top of paladin release
>>729076318It doesn’t even fit the world. Why would a random guy have chaos demon shadow darkness armour
>>729076408yeah it's really funny how literally everyone loves the game now, even haters now recommend people to buy it for the affordable price of $69,99 (including both expansion AND immediate access to the Paladin class)
does anyone have huge issues with ram memory use with this shit? this game fucking spikes to 16 gigs even just on the character selection screen. i am one of those suckers thats on 16 gigs of ram and it makes it unplayable at this point. there is no way this game actually needs this crazy amount of ram just to run.
>>729076540you forgot to mention it is available on PlayStation 5, Xbox One, PlayStation 4 and Microsoft Windows (Steam and our Blizzard launcher)
>>729076502It's probably meant for end game where you're already the strongest entity in the game slaying arch angels and demons.
>>729076540I’ve hated Diablo IV for decades now and even I preordered. I needed that little lizard mount nigga. I didn’t even know the game was out.
>>729054391Based
>>729059594Wait, she didn't die in the expansion??
>>729076408Because literally no one was talking about it and all of the positive feedback is from bots and shills.
>>729076630If I pre-ordered Diablo IV: Lord of Hatred Ultimate Edition, what would I get?
>>729076453What does the new season do exactly? It's my first time playing diablo 4. The only gimmick I see are stuff that were already in diablo 3 like the treasure goblins.
>>729076709one of the devs working on D4 slept with my wife and I still bought it and forgave my wife because it's just that good.
>>729076798IF Activision Blizzard were shills, why didn’t they shill fake Black Ops 7 opinions?
>>729076802AIDS
>>729075653a black man
>>729076408That's because D4 has reached the point in its lifecycle where 90% of the playerbase have long quit the game and only the 10% that really like the game are left and are still talking about it. Same thing that happened to WoW. Public opinion is positive now, because they have lost all the passionate players who once gave enough of a shit to express their criticism.
>>729076868exactly, that anon is just crazy because he hasn't played the new Paladin class yet, unlocked by pre-purchasing Diablo 4: Vessel of Hatred. Activision Blizzard is one of the most honest and upstanding gaming companies there is, they would never do something like that.
>>729076868I’m sure they did they were just drowned out by real criticism.No one is playing Diablo 4 right now, so the bots and shills are pretty loud.
3 or 4?i just wanna have fun
>>729077034>i just wanna have fun2
>>7290770343 is actually pretty fun. 4 is just a worse version of 3 and like six times as expensive.
>>729077034D1 and D2 are the only good Diablo games. D1 feels very old and clunky though if you are at all used to modern aRPGs, so D2 Resurrected is probably your best bet.
>>729050305Did they remove the skin shop? No? Then fuck off.
>>729050305Blizzard produces nothing of value, do not give them your time or your money
>>729076408>>729076540There's nothing funny about that. Just the "blizzdrones got a new product to consoom" effect. It's the same with how everyone suddenly forgot about Blizzard bending over for china or stealing breast milk the SECOND the trailer for overwatch 2 dropped.
>>729077000That doesn’t make sense. If that were the case then there would have been d4 threads at the start of every season populated with the same dudes. >pick all the empty diceMOOT
>>729077323>Blizzard bending over for chinaEvery company does.>stealing breast milknever cared about that shit>trailer for overwatch 2cared even less for it than the breast milk stuff
>>729077034SOME GOYS TAKE, A BEAUTIFUL GAME~
>>729077323Watch this dude do backflips trying to justify Valve doing business in china
>>729076096i play peer to peer games and you're a mouth breathing retard. The experience is and has always been inferior when playing p2p, dedicated servers are king. Sure, the game could use a lobby browser and should allow for custom fan-run servers, but thats besides the point.I'm continually surprised at how ignorant you are on this subject you sperg out about. You genuinely know nothing, which is baffling, considering you've made it your sad lifes work to soap box and purity spiral about videogames.>It’s only live service because of DRM.DRM? this game needs DRM at the hardware level frankly, because retards like you would just cheat shamelessly if it didn't. DRM is mandatory for any game that operates online in a multiplayer facet, why cry about that?>>729076264take your meds. The entire point of cosmetic MTX is that they're OPTIONAL. Get a fucking job if you don't like that they're not served to you on a silver platter. You don't get to dictate to the gaming industry what they should do, you're a poorfag neet who whines about what you can't have. Do you even own this game? why are you here?
>>729077432I was talking about how people were talking about the whole "Free Hong-Kong" drama and how they wanted to have a protest at the next Blizzcon, then literally the second Overwatch 2 was announced Blizzard was suddenly the greatest gaming company in the world. Also exactly the same thing with how Blizzard was getting bashed hard for Diablo Immoral but the very second "diablo" 4 was announced it was all "OMG THANK YOU DADDY BLIZZARD WE LOVE YOUUUUUU"Yuck.
>>729077597>DRM>Digital RIGTHS management>cheat shamelesslyfucking retard. DRM has nothing to do with cheating.
>>729077597Blizzard executives will never fuck you or share their delicious stolen breast milk with you. Stop spitting all over your keyboard, blizzdrone.
>>729077597>DRM? this game needs DRM at the hardware level frankly, because retards like you would just cheat shamelessly if it didn't. Literally the same shit I'd see on the blizzard forums when people complained about Diablo 3 being always online. Kys.
Does Paladin play well? I really like how Rogue handles so far.
>>729077873>Diablo 3 being always onlineStarted botting too late and only made a few pounds from RMAH before it was shut down.Should've been smarter and started doing it right away...
>>729077876Yeah its great
>>729050305Love my retard-pally build. Just walk around as Arbiter and everything just falls over instantly. On T4 right now.
>>729063534lmao you're so fucking retarded. You won't even be able to figure out why you're retarded either
>>729076161The Codex of Ultimate Wisdom?
>>729074814Shutup you dumb nigger shill. Not op but was top 500 global to hit 100 in hc on launch. Gave the game a shot for a few seasons more.Yeah remember when spiritborn the new paid class did literally 100000x more dmg than anything else and blizzard didnt nerf it to sell copies?????Keep defending plus 5% dmg to ccd enemies who feel sad on mondays after being burned rolls.Just play poe2 monkey its not even debatable which game is better. Unless you like playing d4 for 2 weeks every 4 months Because the game will never have content beyond that. Skill tree is dog shit childproof retard friendly.Paragon sucks.Every class has a builder spender
>>729077597The only point in playing Diablo 4 with other people is to play with your friends. Playing with random people is completely pointless. For that peer to peer works perfectly fine. The cost associated to running these servers is completely blizzard’s choice, so don’t act like they’re doing us a service by adding in micro transactions to fund the completely pointless multiplayer experience. Also micro transactions are extremely lucrative because retard whales dump their entire wallet into this trash. Blizzard does it because it’s insanely profitable. DRM is anti piracy software. Blizzard couldn’t give less of a shit if people cheated in their games.
>>729080237>Every class has a builder spenderI hated that shit in WoW as well...
If you have to zoom in and argue if something is ai then it literally doesn't matter anymoreSorry but welcome to the modern age, it will get really exhausting really quickly if you have to do this with every piece you will soon just accept ai as a tool like everything else
>>729076408Everyone that didn't like the game uninstalled it like 3 years ago You only have the blizzdrones left
listen...a sword is a straight piece of metalif your job is to draw a guy with a sword, you, as a human, should understand the assignment, and what a sword is failing to draw a sword as a straight piece of metal is either an artistic choice (not here), an error (unlikely, as the rest of the proportions are correct)or, it's slopped considering the non-matching number of spike things on the emblem behind him, I'm inclined to believe its slop, a human artist would make a straight sword and match the number of spikes in the background
>>729080732Okay, Who cares You have to make conspiracy theories to determine if something is ai or not.
>>729072774It's just porn rotWhy have something that makes sense when everything can be a generic big titty anime woman
>>729068650he is, but the only way he could be the big bad is if he managed to break free from Diablo's anusi guess diablo and baal are just gathering their strength and the former will be the big bad of the last expansion
>>729050305Stealing from other games now? Yikes...
>>729066992Retard.
>>729061175
>>729059117literally who plays blizzard games on steam? no seriouslyboth games are trash btw
>>729080732the shield looks weird too. like its as if its a flat piece of metal (in that perspective)
>>729071668Diablo 4 has a solid plot. Its much better than d3 nephalem bullshit. Nephalem is so shit even though they’re cannon, it’s completely ignored in d4.
>>729050305the paladin is going to be nerfed, who cares
>>729081841>Diablo 4>solid plotsolid shit that is
>>729051560If you look at the cloth going over his boot, it turns into part of an armored shoe that's not actually design on the shoe, and it turns into part of the leg too... It blends with the shape of it and the cloth.
>>729050305>don't include Paladin in D3 release despite how beloved it is. Add an analogue in DLC.>Don't include Paladin in D4 release. Add it as DLCThey certainly know how to fleece you shit eaters.
>>729081547>literally who plays blizzard games on steam?me, fuck bnet launcher bloat
>>729050305Umm, what are Paladin's pronouns?
>>729050305Even my friends that eat up the most generic AAA games that rip you off stopped playing D4 right before the first expansion
>>729073857>outside of aesthetic shit in 4why are you a shit eating mong? Either the game has no mtx or it is total fucking shit. I was the case in the 90's and it is still the case in 2025. Simple.
>>729076085profound mental retardation lol
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