Is it actually good or do I just have to pretend it is to fit in?
idk cause I could never get this shit to run properly
>>729054606It's fun jank
>>729054606a little clunky but overall good unique game.If you liked fallout 1/2 or early baldurs gate games you'll probably like arcanum.Install the community patch, forgot what it's called.
It is one of those games that could never be made today because of one of the plot lines
>>729055149What is it? The orc slavery?
>>729055149It's to this day one of the biggest mysteries who made the gnome quest.
>>729055234Jews are conspiring to make white women breed with black men to produce a servile mongrel race of physically capable enforcers that are smart enough not to be completely retarded while subservient and strong enough to protect themoh, i meant gnomes and ogres and humans
>>729054606amazing game, highly recommend
It's so poorly balanced that you can steamroll everyone with a level one spell (Harm) or you can instead waste all your time, effort, and skill points assembling machines that are nearly worthless. Neither path was fun to me.
>>729054740ive used this video to install the game a few different times https://youtu.be/8XYi5ZBVrV0?si=Hl9IppGurv6qRGiJ
>>729054606the combat is some of the worst ever made but everything else is amazing
>>729054606You are clearly too dumb to live. Go forth and unalive thyself, mighty faggot.
>>729054606shit attitude don't even bother
>>729054606i mean the game just boils down to:>get harm + fireball>after that get whatever you wantand then the combat becomes trivial.Good luck if you wanna create a tech build.shits aids.people just liked it for its instruction manual art.
>>729054606>do I just have to pretend it is to fit in?No one that belongs here likes this game
>>729054606It amazing in some ways, such as the variety of reactions to different kinds of characters. But it's still awkward, janky, and looks older than it is. There's a reason that it rarely the first game to get mentioned when people ask for recommendations of old crpgs. It's a game to play when you're fairly experienced with the genre and can appreciate what it does well.
>>729057034based
>>729054606It's jank for sure, but it's very charming jank with a pretty neat world. If you do play, be mindful that playing a technology-based character is probably the most interesting but also the most frustrating. Also some very neat music, lots of strings.
>>729056997Don't forget the banana bread.
>>729054606i love it. the world building is insane for a fictional world, and reactivity is amazing.. gameplay wise, it's like fallout but with spells.
>>729054606Whole universe is so boring and dry. Same coma inducing music plays 24/7.
>>729054606It's a 6/10 broken unfinished game that's hyped up to be a masterpiece
>>729054606Fallout mogs it despite being made like 5 years before it
>>729054606in the interest of generating discussionwhat do you guys spend your first fate point on?
>>729063372Theft or unlocking.
The game part is awful but it has a lot of great story/world building bits mixed in together.
>>729063867>the game part of a videogame is awfulThen the game is awful
I played it only once way back when it came out and I got defeated on the first screen by some rats or some shit like that. The only thing I remember is that it was so clunky I couldn't be bothered to try again.
>>729064053You have to make an impressively bad character to die in the starting area since the companion you get straight away can pretty much solo all of it.
>>729054606it's good but it's really fucking ugly and jankyI wish it looked more like Fallout. the animations especially are awful, using firearms doesn't feel good at all
>>729064301One aspect of the presentation I disliked from the very beginning was its use of floating text. Fallout and all the other iso RPGs framed their dialogue in decorative panels, which looked better and also created a psychological distinction between gameplay time and dialogue time. Arcanum's floating text looks like cheap shit and makes you feel like you're playing an early MMO.
>>729064796yeah, which is surprising really because the menu/UI design in the game is good, but they did nothing for the dialougescan't even excuse that with the game being unfinished because the dialouge screen is the most important one
>>729054606No it is not good
>>729057034Holy fucking kino I knew there had to be a reason I always loved arcanum despite the shit combat
>>729055810and the gnomes own the press and got rid of the Christian monarcny and replaced it with capitalism. Also the socialist hero Don Throug who you help is acually a National Socialist who makes Tarant great again.
>>729054606When it comes to these old games abuse them if you can, you'll have more fun that way because they sure as hell will try to abuse you.
>>729057034>>729065274Tim Cain is a homosexual and Leonard Boyarsky is Jewish lmao
I wanted to play this really bad but I want to play with guns and every time I played I would miss most of my shots even though I'm pumping the relevant stats
>>729065567Guns don't really get going until you have 18+ Perception and max fire arms skill while using a good gun. The unofficial patch makes some guns better but nerfs others like the Looking Glass Rifle which was busted. Max range, 40-40 damage and only cost 1 bullet to fire. Slow as hell though but that doesn't often matter when you can snipe everything from afar. For unofficial patch I think the hand cannon is one of the better and you can pick pocket that in Tarant. Will probably need a fate point though.
>>729065980Okedoke. In that case what should I use to get by until then? Ive kinda resigned myself to letting my companion deal with the starting quests thus far while letting the basic heal spell keep him and I alive
>play gunslinger>do fuck all damage>run out of bulletsThat wasn't fun
The soundtrack is good but it gets kind of old listening to the same instrument for 100 hours
>>729054606>Is it actually goodNo. I bought Arcanum when it was brand new and it sucked. The game is ugly as sin, incredibly unbalanced (melee/magic is at least 10 times more effective than ranged/tech), and the main story is not that interesting or original. Combat is awful and doesn't feel right whether you use realtime or turn based mode. It mainly has a cool _concept_ for a world (late stage fantasy world where magic is fading and technology is taking its place) and some individual cool sidequests (gnomish conspiracy is the standout). Other than that it's simply not a good game and people give it way too much of a break for reasons that seem to do more with wishful thinking than actual merits.
how playable is it with a stealthy gunslinger thief? I want to replay it with my go-to Fallout character
>>729065567That's because the game has absolute shit balance. Ranged weapons are weak as piss and run out of ammo instantly, and you need so, so much to get anything done with technology. Guns suffer doubly from this because guns are both ranged and technology based. The game's balance is just absolute shit.
>>729054606The black mountain golem filtered me
>>729054606It's the best RPG I've ever played. None have ever come close to this amount reactivity and choices
>>729054606It's very good.>I just have to pretend it is to fit in?No, but you have to kiss my foot first.
>>729066508From what I recall the golem is one of the enemies that's a million times harder if you play in the "wrong" mode so try switching from RT to TB or back and see if it helps.
>>729066510>this amount reactivity and choicesAt the cost of a half-finished game. That's not an acceptable tradeoff to me, though I accept that others are fine with it.
>>729066205I would start with putting points into dexterity as it's useful for all combat styles. Any melee weapon you can hold without penalty will do fine for Shrouded Hills if you picked up the grenades in the Blimp crash area. Use those to stun and blow up those goons blocking the way out. If you feel like putting 2 points into gunsmithing the revolver you can make then is pretty decent iirc. You'll hurt for cash to get bullets if you don't cheese however. The gnome in the park area of Tarant holds a hand cannon and if you want the sniper rifle there's a guy in Ashbury who holds it. If you go there you can also put on easy mode by saving the dog who's busted
>>729054606it wasn't good back thenits ok now with unofficial patchesstill a pretty bad game all around
>>729066498Throwing molotovs is a pretty good ranged build and it doesn't require much. Just some rags and fuel. Aim is optional.
>>729063867I don't get the gameplay being bad thing. Especially when it comes from people who praise Fallout 1 and 2, which genuinely have awful gameplay. Or are you using the real-time mode which is bugged?
>>729054606Arcanum and a lot of other classic CRPGs are garbage not worth your time. Only Fallout is playable
>>729066632Thanks bro. I'll give that a go next time I hop in
>>729066897Fallout is the worst of the bunch. It's so damn slow.
>>729054606>’91 Slav unc>live and breath rts, crpgs, turn based >prepare myself for arcanum after reading how rough it is 'round the edges>download all fixes>fuck around in game for few hoursI can’t say much about story but the game part of the game is dogshit beyond belief
>>729066991I take it you didn't discover that you can change combat speed in the settings?
>make a mutt oaf>end up killing myself trying to hit a wolf in the first town
>>729066889Fallout 1/2 have infinitely better gameplay than Arcanum. It makes no difference which mode you use, Arcanum's combat is dogshit and Fallout shows how to do it right. Fallout communicates very clearly things like ranges and how many action points an action takes. Arcanum never feels like it's controllable.
>>729054606I haven’t played it but I like the concept.
It's good
I still don't get why, after teaming up with Magnus and killing the two necromancers at the jewelry shop in Tarant but then declining Magnus's request to join your party for the long term, Magnus will casts some kind of instant death spell on you giving you a game over.
>>729055810This game is made by Troika right? And Tim Cain is one of the people behind it?
>>729067209Yes and also Leonard Boyarsky who worked with Tim Cain on Fallout, and also Jason Anderson
>>729066632Dexterity really is the most broken stat, you get 10+ attacks a round when you pump it to 20 and add charged rings and other buffs.
>>729065567did you put proper lighting on the enemies to remove accuracy penalties?first time i played arcanum, i didn't know that was a thing
>>729066498>Ranged weapons are weak as piss and run out of ammo instantlyBows are broken as shit in real time mode from the get-go, and still super strong in turn based if you're dexmaxxing. Guns are decent by the endgame in both real time and turn based, but the early levels are miserable.
>>729062250How does Fallout mog it?
>>729063867But you're wrong.Were you ever immersed when you couldn't get into the train being a spellcaster? Or have you ever been rejected by a store because of your tech aptitude, or maybe you liked how the newspapers recall your recent exploits? That's all part of gameplay.
>>729063867>The game part is awfulNah
>>729054606it's pretty good, it's like Fallout but bigger and steampunk fantasy
If you have ever once for a moment taken someone else's opinion as your own without applying any critical thinking of your own to it then you are a subhuman. The kind of person who is loves Fallout 3 on this board because Fabio has gaslit you to through thousands of shitposts.
>>729069019The gameplay is actually tolerable
https://github.com/alexbatalov/arcanum-ceI won't play it until this gets released.
>>729066628>At the cost of a half-finished gameA rough gem is better than polished turd. Besides this is no longer relevant since tons of fan patches were made
>>729054606>some of the absolute worst dungeon design in any game ever made, literally just long winding hallways with nothing in them>combat isn't fun or interesting or even functionalIt's a cool game though. At least get to Tarant and fuck around and be racist.
