all of the elder scrolls are on sale for dirt cheap and ive never played a single one. which one should i start with for the best experience with the series?
Skyrim since it's the easiest to get into.
>>729055318Skyrim with basic mods, then maybe Skyrim with lots of mods, then Morrowind with bugfixes, then Oblivion with basic mods, then any of the older ones if you care at that point.
>>729055318daggerfall. it has the old crpg feel and if you cant stomach it then rpgs arent for you newfriend
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>>729055421any mod recommendations? id prefer nothing too game changing but yknow im not the expert so whatever you think is best
>>729055318Morrowind>openmw>purist's vanilla patch>expansion delay/thread
>>729055612Literally none, don't fucking mod the game if you haven't played vanilla. Don't listen to that retarded cunt. Enjoy the Game, only after you've exhausted everything but can't let go of the game THEN you mod it because you're incapable of finding something else to enjoy.
>>729055612the unofficial patch, maybe SkyUI
>>729055809Out of all the games to recommend a new player towards the unofficial patch, Skyrim is probably one of the worst, due to out of scope changes and an astounding saga of autism
>>729055318OpenMW with the tsmriel rebuilt total conversion mega mod pack https://modding-openmw.com/lists/total-overhaul/The skyrimIf you just want an easy but fun experience: https://www.wabbajack.org/modlist/wj-featured/tempus_maledictum sort of vanilla +++ (yes that's multiple pluses)If you have a beast of a computer: https://www.wabbajack.org/modlist/Elysium/elysiumSort of vanilla plus https://www.wabbajack.org/modlist/wj-featured/tpfWhat I linked to and listed are massive mod pack. So you don't have to deal with load or bashing or any bullshit.
>>729056145To add, honestly fuck people who say "just play it vanilla the first time" bro I didn't use a condom the first time I fucked a chick I went in raw and didn't pull out. It was so much better.And honestly you'll probably play it once before some other games take up your time. Don't waste time will bullshit vanilla playthroughs.
>>729055757>>729055757This guy is a tard thinking you'll play a 10 year old game twice
I liked oblivion the bestmorrowind has immersive qualities but the combat is so badskyrim is dumbed down for normies. just boring all around
>>729055318Just go straight for Skyrim. Other people's rose tinted glasses will not fit you.Morrowind would be the pick, but 2003 is a long time ago.Oblivion aged like shit gameplay wise.Skyrim is still relevant.Each game has a stellar soundtrack and I recommend all of them just for that. But get Skyrim.
>>729055318Oblivion, maybe Skyrim but probably oblivionThen play arena or daggerfall to see how things startedYou can entirely ignore Morrowind
>>729055318Morrowind is literally the only Elder Scrolls game worth playing and the only Bethesda game that's not soulless goyslop.
>>729056405True which is why openMW is dehardcoding combat aka making Mount and Blade style combat possible.True in Skyrim ...but...a 200gb mod pack later and it's way less handholdy and more dynamic of a world
>>729055952The patch has issues but there's just too many bugs otherwise.
>>729056362Why the fuck would you mod a game you never played.
>>729056145Absolutely do not play with Total Overhaul at all (it's dogshit), let alone the first time. Even I Heart Vanilla has weird shit that shouldn't be used in a first playthrough (Morrowind Interiors Project, Weapon Sheathing, Familiar Faces -- why?). Just use Patch for Purists and go. For a first playthrough, you shouldn't even use expansion delay, so that you can learn why that's necessary the hard way.
Only nostalgiafags could love oblivion (me)Op can just play Skyrim and enjoy the Viking adventure.
>>729056289When you start modded you have no clue what's the game and what some tranny on the nexus came up with. That matters to me. Modding waits til later.
>>729056468Half true, combat is dogshit. >>729056495Yes can confirm that's what we're doing. The physics (momentum) based stuff from m&b may not be possible but just the style of directional combat will be 100% possible once we're done.
>>729056582This guy is a fucking moron. No one is going to play through Morrowind twice except for autistic weirdos. Play with total overhaul, have the best experience the first and only time you play.
>>729055318Took away all the uniqueness that OG Oblivion had.
>>729056574>>729056574Because it's a decade old you tard and most people will play it once so HAVE THE BEST EXPERIENCE you can. Fucking autistic wierdos thinking "well yeah if they're like me they'll have 20 playthroughs with multiple different mod load orders".
>MUH MODDING MODDING MODDINGWhere do you people come from? Just talk about the fucking games. Only the most brain damaged retard alive would decide to play a game based on some random thirdworlder's modding project.
>>729056638>When you start modded you have no clue what's the game and what some tranny on the nexus came up withYes because you have autism
>steam's down again
>>729056706Only a weirdo or a youtuber is going to play morrowind in 2025 whether its got mods or not.You dont need trannyslop all over skyrim either. I swear people that mod don't know when to fucking quit. Oh i need my rope and bucket models to have 10 quintillion vertices. Fuck off.
Skyrim cut out several mechanics from the prior games and has the depth of a puddle. If you're looking for an action game with very surface level RPG mechanics, go for Skyrim.
>>729056837>wanting to know what you're actually playing is autismWhy do people like you play RPGs anyway? It's like the cod crowd somehow bled into the genre like beings from an alternate dimension that were never supposed to be here. You all run a single character that masters all guilds, all spells, and sneaks around doing archery in daedric armour. Fuck off idiot.
>>729056864>>729056864>Oh i need my rope and bucket models to have 10 quintillion verticesYes that's Elysium. But phoenix flavor doesn't go that hard neither does maledictum.But paying a Bethesda title without mods, like what the fuck is the point of even buying the game. That's like buying wc3 back in the day and never touching custom maps multiplayer. Or getting the original half life but never playing some of the multiplayer mods like counterstrike, natural selection or day of defeat...like why?
>>729056706>Total Overhaul>the best experienceI will rip your dog's organs out and replace them with solid gold copies. It's an improvement. Everybody likes gold. Why would you want anything else but the best?
>>729055612You need to mod everything. It's 2025, no one replays the same game 5x anymore. Just install nolvus and be happy.
>>729057057>But paying a Bethesda title without mods, like what the fuck is the point of even buying the game.
>>729055318Tehy completely fuckign destroyed all the soul it's so fucking sad
>>729055318Skyrim. Oblivion is probably a better game but its mechanics and systems are very dated and you will notice it even with the upgraded graphics in the remaster.
jesus christ, you nexus trannies are like vegans. shut the fuck up.
>>729055318Skyrim.Or morrowind if you like boomerkino.Oblivion if the screenshots appeal to you I guess.>>729056582Ageed. I like morrowind mods but there is some stinky dogshit in that total overhaul, like janky animations and AI voices.
>>729055318skyrim is the best so start with morrowind if you want to play them all
>>729056783>Because it's a decade old you tard and most people will play it once so HAVE THE BEST EXPERIENCE you canThis is retarded. What if he doesn't like something about the game, and it turned out to be from a mod? He wouldn't have a frame of reference of what he liked or disliked about the game prior to modding it.
Op here, if im being completely honest im not really that interested in rpg mechanics but i figured id give the series a chance, should i dive headfirst into the game thats the most like an rpg or just play skyrim for less rpg mechanics? also im willing to start with mods but id prefer just QOL stuff and maybe some to make the game less grindy/tedious if thats a thing. i dont have autism if that helps any
>>729056582>For a first playthrough, you shouldn't even use expansion delay, so that you can learn why that's necessary the hard way.There is no "hard way" you stupid faggot, you just get a free endgame light armor worth 3k that obliterates the intended earlygame progression. Not using Expansion Delay is like playing the game with cheats, that's why it's necessary.
>>729055748Dont forget the ai voice mod so you don't gotta read
>>729057584This is what I mean, you just want to enjoy the vibes and explore the setting, that's what Skyrim excels at. Bethesda knows that rpg mechanics and shit are insignificant to vibes.Just jump in, if something does bug you there's definitely a mod for it already,but I doubt you'll run into something that makes you think a mod is necessary, because that's hours of time for very little payoff.
>>729057584Start with Skyrim, it is the least RPG of the bunch. >lso im willing to start with mods but id prefer just QOL stuff and maybe some to make the game less grindy/tedious if thats a thingSkyUI fixes the menus. Idk what to recommend you as far as grinding. There isn't a class system in Skyrim so you're free to choose a skill you like to level, and if you don't like something you can just pick up something else.
>>729057584Skyrim was made FOR retarded people, Oblivion was made BY retarded people. Morrowind is the only choice.
>>729057507>>729057507There ain't shit in total overhaul that will turn you off that does replace something from vanilla that'll turn you off more
>>729057439Ai voices are great, reading is dumb. Also it's "jank" animations....shall we look at vanilla running animation
>played 100 hours of vanilla skyrim>very jank but comfy>got tes online dirt cheap years ago>never played a mmo before, it was super confusing>think i played for 30 minutes before quitting and never trying againwas it me or the game?
>>729058056Not him but he's right and you're retarded. Please never make a game recommendation ever again in your life.
>>729057253"Yeah bro I only want to play half life seat match, no I don't want to play counterstrike, day of defeat, or natural selections. Those are mods."
>>729058129ESO is just a shitty WoW clone. It wasn't you. It's not "Skyrim online" like Fallout 76 is Fallout 4 online.
>>729057253Well hes right, they're pretty fucking mid otherwise. I tried Skyrim the first time two years ago, thought "damn this looks like shit and the perk trees are shit". Coworker helped me install some bug mod pack and fixed that issue right up.
>>729058119>reading is dumbHow do creatures like this even pass the captcha
>>729058187Bethesda game mods are not entirely different games, they are grafixwhore garbage and anime girls for gooners.
>>729057684It has too many fuckups, it's distracting.
>>729055318If you know you're going to only play it once the mod the shit out of it with a mod pack. Because you know...other games exist...other parts of life exist.If you know you'll play it multiple times go vanilla, then tinker over time.
>>729058260>damn this looks like shitIf a game from 2011 looks too "dated" for you then I'm not sure you're old enough to be using this website.
>>729058357>>729058357Tamriel rebuilt is anime gooner?
>>729058056Brother, just play the game for a few hours until you have an issue with it, then find a mod that addresses your grievance. Don't start a game you've never played before with a whole mod list. That's insane.
>>729058492Tamriel Rebuilt is literally unfinished. I have never played it and I don't care to play it until it's done. You are out of your goddamn mind if you think TR is necessary in order to enjoy Morrowind.
>>729055318It depends. High IQ? Book reader? Able to sit down for an extended period of time, just absorbing the lore, in-game? Open for discussion on the game, the universe, with true fans?Or, are you a zoom zooms going zoomies with ADHD, needs instant gratification, skips all reading, no set goals or focused on single objective, running around all direction getting distracted by all POIs, probably tanned and definitely in the lower double digits IQ..?
If you have an xbox sex you can enjoy morrowind with modern resolution, framerate and fully tailored for couch gamingTop comfy
>>729055318>ive never played a single one. which one should i start with for the best experience with the series?Play Morrowind if you're into older games and are willing to tank some gank (it's worth it), Oblivion (not the demake) if you're a 6th/7th gen type and Skyrim if you're a turbo normieYou'll need bugfixes for pretty much all the games but outside of that try to go in with as little mods as possible (outside of Morrowind where you'll want to follow a guide on how to up the render distance and get it to play nice with widescreen)
>>729058578>Necessary to enjoy I'm not talking about what is necessary or bear minimum. Might as well emulate the original Xbox version, load times and all and anything you'll say I'll simply respond with "yes but that's not necessary to enjoy Morrowind"
Oblivion is a good starting point. I personally prefer the original, but the remake is still good.
>>729058639i already said i dont have autism, you make the top option sound really gay even though its the option i would like to interact with the game on
All games are playable "vanilla" (IDK if OpenMW counts as vanilla) but not the O.G Oblivion. Oblivion has fucked up levelling system and enemy scaling. This is the one game you needed to get the mods to unfuck the levelling system/scaling.
>>729058578NTA, and I agree that TR isn't necessary, but "unfinished" is an unfairly reductive assessment even if it's technically true. There is nearly twice as much content in TR as there is in the base game and most of it is quite good.
>>729056972>>729056972Yes total overhaul lets you do that or path of the incarnate.Tard
>>729058874Quite good? I'd say most of it is better than the base game. The guild content is a step up in many cases and the dungeons with actual puzzles in them..
>>729058794Which kind? There are different kinds in the spectrum.The laser focused high functioning one that could get so absorbed in the game it became their religion.Or the other turbo autist with ADHD and short attention span that couldn't get into the lore and reading and all they do is sperg on little trivial things, mechanics etc ranting and complaining and mashing their keys and mouse making monkey noises like xQc or whoever.
>>729058864>IDK if OpenMW counts as vanillalmao it absolutely does not
>>729055318Now that I think about it, I've bought most of the game from the series so many times already.Morrowind- 3 release CD and expansions, cd complete collection 3 times, 2 onlineOblivion- 2 base game CDs, 3 cds full collections, 3 different online bundlesSkyrim- 1 vanilla somehow cant remember, 1 special edition on steam, pirated innumerable timesTES Online- bunch of expansion on release and subscriptionsLegends- some card packsCrusader Kings III just for Elder Kings ModI'm so glad I feel nothing towards the series anymore and won't be disappointed with TES6, probably won't even pirate it, thanks Todd.
Skyrim > Oblivion > Daggerfall > Morrowind > feces > Skyrim Pinball > Arena > Elder Scrolls Castles > Battlespire > ESONone of the games are connected so it really doesn't matter which you play first. All you need to know is that the more buggy, the better the game. Don't mess up and download a bugfix mod. That would really suck enjoyment out of the game. Daggerfall is the only one that has some game breaking bugs, but the mod authors let you keep all of the funny ones (like the high elf wizard exploit).
>>729055318Either Skyrim or oblivion. Ive heard Iblivion remastered is decent but I dont know much about it, ive only played the original.
>>729059496how the fuck did Todd trigger you after you stuck around for ESO and legends, wtf?
>>729056405Oblivion's even worse. Too low a skill on a weapon? You hit, but do no damage. Enemies always scale optimally to your level, so you got screwed over if you didn't min max. I remember getting stun locked in the original Oblivion, though Morrowind just quickly makes you an invincible god.
>>729055318If you don't like thinking and have trouble paying attention when playing video games, play Skyrim. Morrowind, and to a lesser extent Oblivion, require actually paying attention to how you build your character (to the extent even an idiot can follow if they pay attention) and similarly have quests that actually expect you to be looking at them when you accept them rather at a stream or your phone.
>>729060706You're trying to make Morrowind and Oblivion sound like hardcore high IQ RPGs when in reality they're total memes.
>>729055318Morrowind or Skyrim. Oblivion is the worst both the aforementioned has to offer and should only be played out of nostalgia.
>>729060858>to the extent even an idiot can follow if they pay attentionImagine getting filtered by a post that's not even 100 words long.
I've played them all and Skyrim is the best one. There's a reason it was so wildly successful
>>729061294Being an extremely dumbed down and simplified game from its predecessors at the exact time an unprecedented number of poorer and less educated people were breaking into gaming and gaining access to the internet?
>>729061406It's a better, more fun game when "dumbed down," according to the vast majority of people. You'd say the same if you were born 10 years later, but nostalgia wins
