Graphics peaked 10 years ago
>>729057797but top doesnt have Nanite™ or Lumen™ and therefore is technologically inferior even if it doesnt look better and runs much worse.
>>729058082Funniest part is that DS2 is one of the best looking games ever and it also runs amazingly well, and guess what? No meme tech like ray-tracing or lumen.
>>729058207>this ugly piece of shit that looks worse than mgs4 is the best looking ever!!!there's something seriously wrong with you lol
>>729058207i'm sure you can make an amazing looking game on any engine when there's no NPCs and 5 enemies with braindead AI every 3 miles
>>729057797Software Lumen is ass and not performant.
>>729058463>>729058657Cope, it's a stunning looking game
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>>729058974>posts empty mountains>posts cutscenethanks for validating my point
>>729057797MGSV is great, but the texture quality is really bad and doesn't hold up under scrutiny. Also the game shits itself if there's ever more than like 6 NPCs on screen lol
>>729057797Nah we havent reached peak yet
>>729058207when is it coming to pc?
>>729058207>view distance turns into mud because consoles cant do AF at all it'll be great when it hits PC
>>729059090NTA but just like MGS5 It seamlessly transitions between gameplay and cutscenes
>>729059090There's a lot of action in DS2 and the game runs very well even on a base PS5
>>729058974>bunch of shitty cinematic shaderswow....... amazing....
>>729059213PC version has already been rated by the ESRB, so in less than 6 months I imagine
>>729058207Cause Decima doesn't use any RT due to PS5 limitations.PS5/SX just don't have the performance for good RT GI unless it's a software based solution which is heavily compromised. They can get away with RT reflections however but Guerrilla Games admitted they didn't want to change the engine's pipeline too much and focused on efficiency.
>>729059050The bin and car being so dark is lack of proper global illumination which RT can fix.
>>729059050looks like a ps3 game to me
>>729059702It would have been a massive performance hog and led to the game looking worse overall
>>729058207Decima cant compete with RAGE.
>>729058207Battlefront 1 did this 10+ years ago.
>>729059950Literally look at this, this is a game released in 2014, and only achievable by a PC that ran it in 4k ultra. Consolefags get a little taste of what I was looking at 10 years ago and then they declare it the end of graphics, this is peak, yadda yadda. Retards
>>729059950Such a shame Frostbite ended up being a disaster when they tried outsourcing it to other devs. I'm guessing this is why Fox Engine was killed as well
>>729060146Why is the final build worse in every aspect? Evem the character design is infinitely superior in the leaked clip.
>>729060110>>729058207Battlefront 2 2 was a bad game but it did look very good. It is relatively "dry" compared to modern games, though. There just isnt a lot of clutter or vegetation density.
>>729057797Graphics are irrelevant today, the PS2 level visuals are the only thing games need
>>729060435>Why is the final build worse in every aspect?Early build is Unreal Engine (3 or 4, don't know which), final game is DICE's Frostbite engine.EA saw how impressive DICE's games were and forced other devs to use the same engine, thinking they would be just as impressive. Problem is that it's an engine that was never meant for widespread adoption, so the documentation was trash and the engine was poorly suited for anything that wasn't Battlefield. Good example of how just because something is impressive from the user-end doesn't automatically make it a good fit for devs
>>729060110idiot
>>729060613>muh uncslop
>>729057797AI will fix it
WEVE MANAGED TO AVOID DROWNING!
>>729058463Wow anon... You're so right....! MGS4 was peak graphics. I really like the smeared curry turd in the background
>>729057797Find me a game that looks better that cyberpunk at max settingsThis is the benchmark right now and has been since 2021
>>729061385Say it with meGRAPHICAL FIDELITY PEAKED WITH MGS4MGS4 OBJECTIVELY LOOKS BETTER THAN EVERY OTHER GAMENO GAME CAN LOOK BETTER
Show videos of these games, retards. Pictures are way more easily edited with filters to look "better" than they actually are.
>>729061796https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHtJ04mBTNw
>>729061407>a 5 year old game is still the go-to graphical benchmarkgrim
>>729061796All the DS2 posts are unedited. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqCPmwm0b2k
>>729057797why do games run like trash if they peaked? they peaked when cyberpunk came out. once you get 120 fps path tracing graphic are a meme now.
>>729062153>once you get 120 fps path tracing graphic are a meme now.>120 fps path tracingYou sound like a jeet
>>729062108DS2 is gonna be the new yardstick for graphics once it arrives on PC, absolutely insane looking game even on a base PS5
>>729062312I was blown away by the intro. Thought it was prerendered. Refused to believe that it was in-engine even when he was standing up and the camera zoomed out to over the shoulder for gameplay. My mate told me his mrs thought it was live action shot on a drone or something until it started showing the buildings and people walking and stuff. It's insanely good looking
>>729061407There is noneand the anon going on about ds2 is a fucking retard
>>729058207>wow pointy terrain>ebinlol
>>729061407
>>729063556Not nearly as good looking as cyberpunk but way more soulful which is what truly matters
>>729059768then you haven't played a ps3 game or misremember what they look like. no ps3 game looks anywhere close to that.
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>>729063808I always found the use of water, glass, windows, and crystals in those graphics interesting. Like in Halo 2, for example, and when there were interactions with them, I found it very fascinating.
>>729057797I'm thinking it's almost entirely because of>muh fps dropped below 100, not recommended. RefundSo they added fog to keep fps high for "muh fps" cuckniggerfaggots and destroyed the game for everyone else who doesn't give a shit about it. 30 fps is plenty in most games and 60 is perfectly fine too. So it's basedjak niggers ruining our games.
>>729061914Based. Now THIS is what games SHOULD look like.
>>729062312Eh it has good looking landscapes but technically games like Alan Wake and Cyberpunk do a lot more with lighting.
>>729057797MGSV's graphics are great but it's going for the photorealism style which is ugly, 4 is the perfect balance and is the best looking MGS game
>>729061630>GRAPHICAL FIDELITYyou tech autists need to understand that a game looking good has nothing to do with graphical fidelity or how technically impressive it is
>>729064124those fucking redditors and steam reviews piss me off.>I can't run this game in ultrawide 4K 240fps natively? it's shit, refunded.>xDDD the great pirate era fuck this game shit performance (t. third worlder who can neither run nor afford the game)
>>729064215>technically "technically" is why modern games look like overdesigned shit
>>729057797Yes, your compressed-ass 897x996 image is a great way to show graphical quality.
People who are obsessed with hardware and graphical fidelity are all normalfags and the main reason why gaming has been shit for the last 20 years
>>729058207>ONE whole texture for the mapkek
>>729057797
>>729062194why fag all i am saying once you got path tracing 120 fps all these graphic memes should die. >we did the rays of light in real time realistically guysokay now make the game run better . we solved light now solve fucking performance.
>>729058207wow look at all that variety in the scene
>>729066416DS2 has some of the greatest enviromental variety in all of gaming, play the game it's kino
>>729060146ConsolesTo avoid a huge discrepancy between the PC and the consoles versions, the graphics need to be pruned down for the final build.
>>729066486meant for >>729060435
>>729061385Left looks like bland photorealistic washed out dogshit, just like every modern game. MGS4 genuinely looks better. And even though that's a low quality screencap, you can still see how much better the contrast and colors are
>>729065248Gotham Knights actually does some very neat things with the neon lights in the fog.
>>729057797They peaked in 2008.
>>729057797I agree, vidyas looked better when everything was static and baked, unironically. Real time lighting removes the artistry.>>729058207Imagine looking at literally nothing and being impressed, losing your mind over ground textures.
>>729058974>Cope, it's a stunning looking game
>>729059427Imagine hating on filters and wanting them removed so you're left with bland, boring, realism.
KCD2 looks incredible in 4k and I legitimately think it's the best looking game in yearsof course it doesn't use gay tracing and scorns all of the new tech, and just runs a very optimized, nice looking version of the cri engineruns so well and looks so good that it really makes you hate UE5 slop all the more
>>729067758Catalyst looks better
>>729068249Kingdom Come looks boring
>>729068345This has better looking trees than KCD2 but much worse looking character models and has much smaller, less impressive environments. Also runs about 100x worse, so you just kind of made my point for me.
>>729063556>>729063808shame that making these webms is all PSO was good for.
>>729058207Too bad its not fun to play.
>>729068440RAGE 2 looked nice.>>729068440>less impressive environmentsKCD looks too real imo, it lacks a little bit of style.
>>729068546It's a historical game, it's shooting for realism. I get your point though.Still, it would be very easy for them to iterate the engine and tweak the style a bit to make a fantasy same for example.I wonder why more devs don't do what Bethesda did with New Vegas and hire some smaller studio to create a story using their assets and engine.
>>729068602Yeah i do wish there were more games using CryEngine
>>729063687Looks much better, though.
>>729062194looks fine to me
>>729057797Graphics didn't peak but art style did. I'm not sure why we lost that aspect of presentation.Imagine how good games would look with today's graphic techniques and actual art style.
>>729069259What's that? Another indie game with that already-overused PS1 filter package?coming right up!
>>729069259Most devs nowadays are churned out of "video game design" diploma mills.All the people with talent, soul and drive were either pushed out of the industry during #MeToo, promoted away from any position where they could have any influence, retired, or went into smaller teams. AAA is suffering from a huge talent drain because nobody passed on any skills.
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>>729057797>the jump from 8-bit to mode 7 was magnitudes larger than all of the graphical improvements from 2015 to 2025We're in the era of stagnation
>>729069903Just 5 years ago consolefags were creaming over pic related. Graphics got significantly better since then.
>>729068281no it doesn't, this looks like heavily stylized shit and is completely different than the tone and art style in mirror's edge.
>>729059168Because it was a X360 game
>>729070272>5 years agoOoh. Crysis (2007) had better looking fucking plants plus you shoot them down if you wanted.
>>729058974I think this looks better.
anybody got any webms of f-zero gx? this game was crazy good looking for a tendie game from 2003
I think games reached graphics peak in 2016.That was still when games looked good and didn't necessarily need TAA.I don't think the games need to look better than Hitman 2016, and Battlefield 1 just looks real (if only some weaponselements were more high poly)
Ice cold take:Animation quality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic fidelity
>>729060146impressive downgrade
>>729070490thats not what crysis looks like
>>729071293This
>graphics peaked in 201-
>>729072070>TAA blur in the still promotional screenshots
>>729071460Yeah that's probably the remaster with texture packs, it's hard to find screens of the OG.Here's one. Not that far off though.
>>729072602It's a real photo of a real jungle.
>>729057797More like 20
>>729072602>Yeah that's probably the remaster with texture packsthe remaster looks worse than og
>>729057797So did your mom, but we don't make a thread about it every day.
>>729058207Raytracing in games is not even real raytracing but Nvidia flea market gaytracing
>>729058207>DS2Dark souls 2 yeah
>>729072775Catalyst looks better
>>729072602Vanilla Crysis doesn't look as good as people remember, but it's still impressive how well it holds up.All it took was basically being playable on high settings except for supercomputers back on release.
>>729072846>playableunplayable*Words are hard.
>>729072070>Open World>Smoothed rocks and terrain>Biomes changing with a hundred metres>Small towns/villages>Bows and swords>Horses>TAA up the assYep..looks like every other AAA sloppa of the last 10 yearsRemember when games were varied and had interesting settings/environments?
>>729072950>Remember when games were varied and had interesting settings/environments?I was thinking about that earlier weirdly, where it felt more common for even mid/bad games to still be interesting.Mainly thought about it with Bioshock Infinite where I hated the game but at least the setting was cool.
>>729064431I never understood what people really mean by "graphic fidelity". Fidelity to what? To the real world? To the concept art? To the pre-rendered cutscenes?
>>729059950ea battlefront was an insanely shallow piece of shit, but i will admit, it looked beautiful
>>729073140Those games were about the only time I used the term "cinematic" as a compliment.
>>729072842Mirrors Edge Catalyst is the best looking game of all time
i liked how pretty wonderlands was, i want to play borderlands 3 but the story is liquid sewage
>>729073347>i want to play borderlands 3 but the story is liquid sewageJust like all BL, just tune it out. 3 is particularly bad, but if you can tolerate 2 or Wonderlands then you should be equipped to handle it.
>>729073065it means more polygons and photo-realism
>>729068447It pioneered what Monster Hunter perfected and then destroyed
I disagree. The capability of some of the comprehensive lighting solutions we have now, like Cyberpunk's path tracing or UE5 Lumen, is amazing. Detailed lighting, sharp shadows, specular highlights, across the whole scene including moving objects and dynamic light sources. Some games made now look amazing. It's just that those games are usually not particularly fun for whatever reason. The games designed to be fun are for some reason shipping with PS4 quality graphics still.
>>729069660Control was superbly immersive but ruined it entirely with a retarded game design>stupid pistol upgrade mechanic>very poor diversity of enemies in a game supposed to be about otherworldly creatures>NPC respawn forever>gloriously fluid telepathy, except for the shitty levitable that ruin it all like a robotI could go on but I already forgot most of it
>>729074034>I disagree.nobody cares about YOU though
>>729061407it looks good on screenshots but you usually don't inspect screenshots of a game instead of playing it. cp2077 looks like shit in motion and plays even worse
>>729068281ew.. that reflection doesn't even make sense
>>729059768When was the last time you played a game on the PS3?
>>729069259Nigger in what fucking universe does the smeary, shimmered, dithered vaseline slop visuals of current day average game constitute a "peak" by any technical merits
>>729074034>sharp shadowsUnfortunately, directors have given up on these for some reason. All shadows have loads and loads of soft shadows, presumably because whatever software package they're working with for lighting has gone overboard with edge diffraction shaders. You can't find a good sharp shadow for your life in any new games. BTW the sharp shadow in your image is bugged; its cast is missing from his left leg.
>>729061407crysis 3 unironically
>>729058207PCCWhen Kojima-san?
>>729058207Nobody knows this since it's snoyslop exclusive
>>729058463mgs4 textures are some of the worst lmao
>>729062194all I see from path tracing is that everything looks wet and shiny. even stuff that shouldn't be
>comparing games with static time of day and small maps to open world games with day/night cycles
>>729077425maybe they should stop having these useless gimmicks then?
>>729059932No pc or console from this gen will be able to run it lolIt will take a decade or more to run decently same with GTA v rt >>729059950Yeah we really peaked with early PBR and photogrammetry now it's all ue5 slop with horrible shading
It's pretty telling that as soon as the graphics/hardware arms race stalled the AAA market started collapsing. Even the dumbest normalfags went>wait, I've been buying the same game over and over again and the gameplay is as simple and limited as it was in sprite based games from the 1980s
>>729058207that's what you get when you develop exclusively for PS5 and aren't held back by tuning things down for a PC port
>>729068227This post is so fucking dumb. Filters CREATE bland, boring, realism. That game has no style, it's just a boring looking movie.
>>729072846Vanilla Crysis looks better than most people realize since most people don't max it out. And some of these effects are not negligible. >>729074341I never played this since it looks so much worse than QB and the woman is ugly lol
>>729063796>>729074752it looks like dead space
>>729058207Hellblade did it better
>>729072070>trusting those polish kikes out of all peopleyou guys really have a shit memory, they ALWAYS lie with their pre-release footage / screenshots
>>729077923It seems the next gimmick will be AI upscaling. Hopefully this will mean CPU power will have more focus.
>>729079404>Hopefully this will mean CPU power will have more focus.That would require the game industry hiring actual software engineers, which ain't happening with the current pay rates and DEI practices.
>>729078103Realism doesnt look like this
>>729072950>Remember when games were varied and had interesting settings/environments?yes
>>729079152>just fucktons of detail for rocks and dirt>MC looks a bit worse than AloyNanite is a fucking mistake
>>729079739where the fuck do you think camera shaders come from? what are they based on?fucking retard
>>729068447Certifiably the worst take I've ever heard on /v/. This is a crowning achievement.
>texture this >Reflections that None of that matters to 99.9% of people It's about the over all lookHow everything comes together Why all the soulslike look and feel wrose than DS3 despite all budget and tech behind itThat's why RDR2 and ER looks so good.
>>729079739It does on a shitty overcast, which is the case there.
>>729080939Problem I have with ER is the overall look is great, especially outdoors, but the second you try to appreciate any of the finer details, you realize how lacking they are in comparison. At least RDR2 is consistently high quality with its assets, although it's nearly three times the fucking filesize so I'd have hoped so.
>>729081273That's trueBut that game still some great compositionsUnlike most of not UE5 games and remakes because they don't hire art directors for some reason
>>729058657holy retard
>>729081357My hatred with a lot of UE5 games is abuse of post-process colouring filters. Just make the fucking game look the colours you need in the first place instead of cranking the saturation/contrasts on a per-region basis? Capcom is also heavily guilty of this with the REmakes.
>>729057797Games genuinely and completely unironically never needed to look more modern than thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0wwv9AuV8
>>729081273I find ER to look really terrible outside of atmospheric fog effects. Like that one empty forest area before you start climbing up the wall if I'm making any sense, that area looks good. The rest of the game is so ugly, I genuinely think the first 2 souls games look better in literally every way. I especially hate how nu-from particles look, they're so smeary and shitty looking with weird slow physics. I unironically hate them to an almost irrational level. Sekiro and AC6 had it too. Also the games look like fucking clay or playdough too,
>PC parts keep getting more expensive >Wtf graphics aren't improving!!!
It is actualy kinda wacky. We have games like Witcher 3, Phantom Pain, Ghost of Tsushima, Days Gone, or Robocop which all look great and run on my 10 year old PC on high. I haven't bothered upgrading because I mostly play pixelshit. But then shit like Dragon's Dogma 2 or Wrath of the Righteous run like ass. AC Mirage is terrible despite Valhalla looking way better and running fine. Hell, Elden Ring runs at a greater framerate than Rune Factory 5. I have no idea what's going on these days.
>>729073347>says bl3 story is sewage while playing wonderlandsholy fuck. just kill yourself i couldnt even get past the character creation but i played 3 to completion
>>729081506I think Arc raiders and Dead island 2 look fine So it has to do with lazy devs not putting in the time and effort
>>729083863
I want fantasy games too look like this before going full "Simplified indie"
>>729058207southeast asians coped hard with this post
>>729058207But according to digital foundry, if it had lumen, the game could have render the shadow of a strap that's on a small bag attached to sam, increasing visual fidelity.
>>729083863Arc Raiders has god awful colour grading in general. It's a very grey game that lacks general contrast. Complete polar opposite of The Finals, their prior game.
>>729081181you got film grain and cromatic aberration in your eyes?
>>729080028>>MC looks a bit worse than Aloyher character model is a lot more detailed than Nicocado
>>729079739>>729084860I find it weird that a decade old early PS4 title still holds up against modern AAA.
>>729078181based finally someone that realizes, control AND alan wake 2 look worse than quantum break
>>729083863>Dead island 2 look finebased but dead island 2 uses unreal engine 4
>>729085020most games from that early ps4/xb1 time still hold up because devs still did baked lighting for the most part. in 2016 they all went with real time lighting which always resulted in shit looking flat under certain conditions
>>729058207I can't wait for a PC port so we can discuss this game without it being derailed by sour grapes.
>>729085126I just scoff when I see people post it, I don't see the appeal at all.
>>729085256Well than more games should be using UE4 Because DI2 had great looking environments Physics, and this in depth gore system with 7-12 zombies on screen
>>729080939ER's artstyle only looks good if you stand really far away from it and dont look at the edges too close or notice how there aren't any bathrooms or logic to the interiors. RDR2 doesn't have the same issues because it's not fighting against a game engine from Obama's first presidency.
>>729059816Maybe on a weak PS5 console. On PC it's going to shine.
>>729059950AND IT WORKED GREAT ON TECH OF THE TIME
>>729085440>Racing gameThey can probably make photo real racing game right now because it very limited angles and little to no interactivity
>>729062194PISS OF JENSEN with you gaytracing to justify hardware demand
>>729057797>Dude le hecking grafixxx!!!!!
>>729057797for real dough. was just playing TomB Raider 2013 and its crazy how good that game looks compared to modern unreal engine sloppa. although that game showed signs of the beginning of woke western gayming.
onirism looks so good and colorful but no one never mentions it because of all the cunny posters
>>729085553true
>>729083863I dont get i, why is skybox 240p?Everything looks nice, why is skybox easiest and least performance affecting thing looking like shitYou dont have to show low ress skybox you use for lightcasting, just smack bigger ress on top of it that doesnt and hide this muddy shit
>>729085440kinoFUCKING KINO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B8X1NegB5k
>>729085708best part about this shot is how everything is lit in the distance instead of being fully dark. its how actual lighting behaves and lumen absolutely sucks at it
>>729077557Yeah, they should also remove these useless 3D and colors gimmick, especially that whole color gradient bullshit that only serve to sell graphic card.I tell you, games have only gone downhill since Pong.
>>729086012This game good animations and character designs but looks really ugly and bland
>>729058207Got all the UE5 jeets seethingFrostbite > Decima > RedEngine > UE5 > RE Engine
>>729085459>I can't wait for a PC port so we can discuss this game without it being derailed by sour grapes.I'm a PCfag and it's one of the best looking games is years. A PC port won't solve anything because the sourgrape posting is from NintoddIers and Unreal shills.
>>729059192It's weird how this looks like a PS2 game but with higher geometry and texture resolution. It's like lighting in games keeps regressing.
>>729085516yeah Dead island looked very nice, but not surprising considering it was a former Crytek studio
>>729066914>washed out dogshitDeferred rendering was a mistake
>>729085467cool particles
>>729061407Anon that looks like absolute dogshit. Congrats on being gaslit by journalists.
>>729085630>>Racing game>They can probably make photo real racing game right noThey could but they don't because of the real-time lighting meme. Pic related is fully baked and came out in 2015.
>>729058207That doesn't look like Australia at all
>>729062153>they peaked when cyberpunk came outWhy is there so much shilling for the graphics of games like Cyberpunk or the RE remakes when they look terrible? Is it Nvidia marketers?
>>729086963Meanwhile pic related came out 2 years after from the same studio, but uses real time lighting instead.
>>729086746I mean the later games. QB s cool.
>>729074752>YO YO YO>Y-Y-YO HERE WE GO>YO YO YO>Y-Y-YO HERE WE GO
>>729059932>game that cost 20 gorillion dollars look better than a game that cost 20 million
>>729068404Bottom image got that Concord look.
>>729057797Graphics threads should be WebM focused. How a game looks in motion is what matters.
