How do you guys think the undertale prequel fan games in development should handle saving for the souls? My idea is hallucinations, everytime a soul dies,he wakes up and start at the last point he slept at(that's his way of saving,taking rest at various places,everytime he dies,it's a bad ending). Another idea I have is a character from the future travelled backing in time to stop something horrible from happening after the undertale ending and is helping the soul out. To me,this is good idea because you can introduce the original cast without breaking canon. Heck,this could be the weird route or the true ending of a prequel game.
Why only the orange soul? What about purple
>>729069383>Another idea I have is a character from the future travelled backing in time to stop something horrible from happening after the undertale ending and is helping the soul out. To me,this is good idea because you can introduce the original cast without breaking canon.I feel like having a character travel through time to make sure the canon ending doesn't happen is probably breaking canon, actually.
>>729070041Nobody said anything about orange only, there are some purple soul fangames being made, one which is about the purple and blue soul together in the underground, and another purple fangame called futility or something like that which has died and revived like 2 times
>>729070651I honestly don't like it, it gives me ptsd of skeleton wank and how sometimes Sans was like a guardian of the timelines, fixing mistakes and traveling through time to fix other timelines
>>729070848I don't intend for it to be sans, I was thinking more like an original monster or descendant of a retalive of the soul.
>>729070972I know, still, any time travelling character thy fixes mistakes in timelines qill remind people of fanon Sans, you can still do it if you want, I was giving my two cents on it
>saving shitJust give humanlike monster waifus cause I fucking hate furries. Their cancer rots the Uty threads
>>729071227Whats your opinion on non furry but non humanlike waifus?
>>729071369I wish they were more. Something like gardevoir.That one you posted is from the other bravery game,right? Doesn't look like a good example for waifu material. She's probably for story purposes.
>>729069383the angel.
>>729069383Why do people even make fan gamesJust make your own damn gameToby pretty much said to do that during the Gerston fight in Deltarune
>>729071527Oh, you meant waifu as in a romance option? Yeah you are kind of fucked in that regard, all of the fangames with hinted romance only have furry waifus
Would this game be released in chapters? I'm not waiting 7 years again.
>>729072032They're going to release standalone chapter 1 sometime in 2026. We don't know whether later chapters will have individual public releases or if they'll wait until the whole game's done to release the whole package.Assuming they'll ever finish it at all. Chapter 1 has already taken them 2 years and will likely take another one.
>>729072032>>729072367Whats crazy is that most of these new fangames are aiming to be par of Deltarune in terms of quality and scale, UTY already took 7 years to make being onthe same scale as UT, meanwhile Wildfire and Futility are trying to have super detailed sprites and complex game mechanics qhile still being fangames made by small teams of amateurs, I do hope they get finished but they should try to be a bit less ambitious if theywant toget finishes before the end of the decade
>>729071578Toby gave us the mandate of heaven during the 10th anniversary stream
>>729071578Because I want to tell a story about Undertale monsters with souls, determination, an canon game mechanics.
>>729071578Making fan games is a bit easier than making an original game, you already have assets and a world that you can reuse, but the biggest advantage is that you can easily get people to work in your project for free, the UT fandom is full of artists that don't know a thing about game dev so they will happily help anyone actually making a game
>>729075678it is still a huge undertaking to make a game though, sure fangames are "easier" since you are working with pre existing assets/setting, but you still have to add your own stuff into it so it is actually goodthat's why barely any get to cross the finish line
>>729076586I know, but as I already said, fan projects have the advantage when it come to forming a team, getting people to work for free on your original game is hard, but a fangame? just ask on any comunity dedicated to the fandom and you'll find lots of people willing to work for free
>>729076753I'd still rather work alone than have to deal with the crazies in the community and have the project die due to drama t b h
>>729076839me too, but hey, you can still find less crazy people to work with in 4chan
>>729076753>just ask on any comunity dedicated to the fandom and you'll find lots of people willing to work for freeI feel like any talent acquired like this would be inherently low quality
>>729077284would you call the sprites and music from Wildfire and TS!Underswap "low quality"?
>>729071527>complains about furries>"Something like gardevoir"you're not any better
>>729077284I dunno, there have been some projects worked on entirely for free that have ended up being pretty objectively high quality.Take The Nameless Mod for Deus Ex for example. It was made by and for the PlanetDeusEx community back on ForumPlanet, it has over 30 hours of gameplay, near professional voice acting, custom models, textures, an entire soundtrack, and a pretty well written story, all made by a bunch of weirdos obsessed with a single game, funded entirely by whatever came out of their own pockets over the course of seven years.All of that, and it's a free mod for an existing game.I'd say you can find some people willing to do high quality work for free, they just have to be really, *really* obsessed with whatever it is you want them working on.Also, the year being 2002 would probably also help.
>>729077705>>729077545those are the exception to the rule, just go browse gamejolt and see how many shitty projects exist
>>729077762Most of anything is shit, that's how things in general work.It's like how people talk about how great Vine was, but people only ever remember the same few actually good ones, because 99% of the rest was complete shit. When absolutely anyone can make something, most of that thing is gonna be shit, because most people don't actually have the necessary skill or know-how to make something worthwhile, but people keep making things anyway.But it's worth it for the stuff that's actually good, so whatever.
>>729071774>all of the fangames with hinted romance only have furry waifusHow many fangames have romance options?As far as I can remeber, the only confirmed one is Wildfire with Luna, there is that Deltarune fangame with a bunny girl, UT Futility with that red panda girl that looked like a chinese Kanako, one of the other orange games had a black catgirl that seemed like a romance option, any others?
>>729079307I doubt it will be romantic, but one of green gals is paired with moth boy.
>>729079307>>729079634It seems like Oldentale and Naranja will have some shipbaiting too, but we still don't know anythign about the monsters involving them
>>729079307>UT Futility with that red panda girl that looked like a chinese Kanakotoo bad that one is almost confirmed to be yuri, if it ever comes out(and the artist updated the art AGAIN after this pic)>>729080251really hoping naranja anon lets us date luzma or the slime girl in the game, even if its just "fake" dates like the papyrus one
>>729069383Nevermind saving, with Deltarune Chapter 5 having probably the first official characterization of the fallen humans through Asgore's flowers, how should the fangames go about that?
>>729080634unconfirmed, tricky tony could rugpull everyone as he always doesall we can do is wait and seebesides tobias told us it's fine to IMAGINE an alternative
>>729080496>if it ever comes outLet it go man, this is never seeing the light of day.Honestly, it's for the best.
>>729080634I don't care if Toby give us a new yellow humanTo me Clover will always be THE yellow human, smae for any other human with a fangame that gets finished
>>729080634>how should the fangames go about that?Ignore and keep doing your thing unless your ideas were objectively worse than canon.
>>729080787But I want to see Mei's final design, she looked less and less feminine with each new redesign, I need to see how far the artist can take it
>>729080915her new design is this one (on the left)
>>729080634Why do you assume the six flowers will be the humans and not Darkners associated with Asgore's personal hangups and history, as all previous Darkners have been?
>>729080496>>729080953I find it a bit funny how many times the main character has been redesigned, considering how simple all the oficial humans are in UT and DR
>>729079634I'll give them some credit for having the potential romance be something other than a anthropomorphic mammal
>>729080496We know we'll have a date with her at some point, but it ends abruptly once Luzma realizes that Val is underage.
>>729080634Like the other anon said, the flowers are totally going to be about Ashore and reflect not much else.Toby has made clear this is the way he is writing Deltarune, don't set up yourself for disappointment like I did.
>>729081756what kind of goonerbait monster? mammal? or something more unique?
>>729081202>>729082607The flowers will totally be representations of the previous humans even tho they have no real connections with humans
>>729083721I hope not, toby would kill most of the soul fanprojects in one swoop, IMAGINATION be damned
>>729084006I was joking, but there is always the small posibility of that happening
>>729084006>IMAGINATION be damnedToby already killed the possibility of Axis and the whole of Steamworks to fit canon lmao
>>729069383>hallucinationsHaving them be bad dreams would work better. This could tie into gameplay as well where the more bad dreams you have, the worse your character's mental state is. Though, asking players to throw the game over and over just to see more content is unfun.>>729071227What's your opinion on scalies?>>729084812Yellow was never going to fit canon regardless because it was placed only a few years before the events of Undertale. It doesn't make sense with how it's implied there was a long time between the sixth soul and Frisk. Flowey also doesn't fit at all though UTY has one of the best portrayals of his character across all fanworks.
>>729071578he said to make whatever you make with sincerity, not that making fan games was bad. Reminder that toby got his start making fangames and encourages people to create even if its 500 skeletons
>>729084812he will always be canon in my heart
>>729084812I think his words were "the underground is a big place"
>>729085738That's not a monster, that's a human with a tail. Dalv in UTY is as far as I would take human-like monsters and he is very visibly not-human. Undertale has monsters inspired by folklore but none of those look human regardless of source material: see Shyren compared to classical sirens.If you want human waifus just come up with human waifus. It's entirely possible to come up with attractive monsters that are not animal-themed, though that takes extra work. Maybe you could have something humanoid but still monstrous, like Demona in Gargoyles.
>>729071227An anon wanted to make a Deltaeune fangame with a zombie girl as the manin romanc option, but I don't remember if he is still making itPersonally I think plant girls are underrated>>729085738Thats just a human with accesories, even Dalv looks more monstruos than her
even a non determination-primary soul would have the most determination in the underground and thus be able to save.
>>729087697Undertale Wildfire has certain special attacks that give you an additional turn under specific conditions, like the "roundhouse kick" that gives you an extra turn everytime you perform its minigame perfectly, and in Naranja you always start your turn with two actions, but some interactions require two actions to use
>>729087823maybe clover had... a hard life
>>729086217>>729084812the steamworks never made much sense in the current timescale yellow is working at, if the devs had made it maybe 20+ years before UT instead of just one, then it can kinda fit. there is no way the core and gaster's incident and alphys being promoted all happened so recently>>729086994>An anon wanted to make a Deltaeune fangame with a zombie girl as the manin romanc option, but I don't remember if he is still making itthe sprites were posted a few threads ago, seems the project is dead though
I think fan games should make their games in a visual novel format to speed up production
I think fan games should make their games in a text adventure format to speed up production
>>729090471you joke but there is one doing that, as such it doesn't interest me as much
>>729092450Which one is doing that?
>>729092596this one https://gamejolt.com/games/ut_tnt/475514
I wonder if there are fangames we don't even know about.Like secret oneses.
>>729090471have you played kissy cutie?
>>729090471There's also "Childhood's End" which is a VN about Deltarune's weird route.>>729093087Looks interesting...wait a minute....>roleswapsThis is just Storyshift.
