>ruins your game
>>729073872Why she speaking japanese
>>729073872Rival midboss character
She ruined my semen reserves
>>729073872lost lace is one of the best fights in the game doe
>Shows up twice in 50 hours of gameplay>center the entire third act around her7 years btw.
Eat you silk, lace
>>729074368but those delicious child-bearing hips though
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>>729073872this entire game was piss easy for me and if you're having trouble at any point just remember i am better than you
>trannoid spamming images again
>>729074813>>729074885Imagine clicking on the lace thread not wanting to see lace
>>729074937Imagine posting tumblr garbage.
>>729073872Her fights aren't bad but she lacks the narrative weight, she should have been more like vergil or knuckles where they constantly fuck with you thoughout the entire game rather than showing up like twice before the act 2 finale.Stuff like her cutting the elevator leading to the depths or siccing the robot in that grass lands or anything that would make her more of a presence
>>729074961Tumblr is dead
Why do people ship Hornet with Lace? They barely even have any chemistry with each other.
>slut fights wedding dress enemy
>>729075046And yet you're posting garbage from there.
>>729075054they're 2 female characters that interacted a few times. That's more than enough for /u/fags
>>729073872>listen to the lace ost teaser for years and years>incredibly exicted>first encounter>hell yeah she is fun>fucking disappears for the whole game>shows up once>hijacks the entire last act>the game acts like I should give the slightest fuck about her>becomes the final boss>is just her second fight but she spews out the same garbage generic enemies do in act 3Fuck her, the game would genuinely be a 10/10 if she hadn't shat all over act 3.
>>729075054Trannies are mentally ill.
Me, human man, using tweezers to force feed Lace silk I bought from china
Lace2 was superior to Lace3.
>>729073872>Games backstory basically revolves around her>Causes the istigating incident for the plot>Causes the 3rd act>Is the final boss>Is completely unlikable and uninteresting character How did they manage it?
Who did the "rival that you fight 3 times in the game" thing better? Genichiro Ashina from Sekiro or Lace?
>>729075557Genichiro and it's not even close. His fights were some of the best in that game.
>>729074937I don't want to see images of Lace lezzing out drawn by Xitter trannies. I want to see her being cute and/or getting her back blown out.
Why everyone seems to agree that she needs to eat silk to survive?Did I miss some secret interaction?
>>729073872BOMBA DE LA TRUTH NUCLEAR
>>729076186her sister phantom
>>729073872Nah, but I still think Lost Lace was kind of a shit final boss. Having a huge arena combined with what is essentially a telefrag that punishes dashing is bad game design in my opinion. Don't want me to move? Make the arena smaller.
>>729075976Shouldn't be playing a LGBT+++ game then
>>729075368Correct opinion. Lace 2 was short, decisive, impactful. Lace 3 was just a slog with no payoff.
>>729073872More like>*is entirely forgettable and irrelevant*
>>729073872> spanks your mcNothing personal
>>729074368go do act 3 you pussy
>>729074368She is apart of the weavers and grandmother silk if you can’t put basic themes together I don’t know what to tell you man
>>729073872Will she really be the MC of Hallow Knight 3?`
>>729076901>The devs tried so hard to make us care about her beyond her looksnot really
>>729073872She also has the worst voice acting in the entire game.
It's really bizarre how Lace is basically written as if she were Hornet's stranged sister (her whole character in essence is this jealous daughter in desperate need of her mother's attention) to the point of acting as the game’s own analogue to the Hollow Knight and have Hornet compare her predicament to that of what happened to her siblings, when in actuality, Hornet has no sentimental ties to her nor a reason to. It's optional, but one can even kill Lace's sister relatively early on in Silksong and she's not acknowledged ever again despite her situation being the same as Lace's, arguably a hundred times more concerning. It's made even worse by the fact THK is supposedly still alive/existing separate from the rest of the Void by this point, so Lace's role as thematic surrogate continues to fall flat; when Hornet mentions taking her back from the dark, she speaks as if her one remaining brother was completely gone from the picture or something.
>>729076732No payoff?
I l will never get over this. For the rest of my life whenever I think of lace I will think of this picture and the fact that this is a screenshot from the final cutscene of the game. Just her fat ass being presented. Wtf team cherry
>>729076901Not really, maybe the devs lived too much in their own head cannons and forgot to put hat stuff into the game because it's not uncommon for the player to completely forget she exists by the time you reach her second boss fight.
>>729076946idk if they can still make another one, whats left to improve or expand upon? an even bigger map & new bosses & new mc ok cool but what will you do to the combat? what can you do?
>>729073902Arienai!
>>729077291Those are her thighs, she has poofy classic riding breeches-like pantsThe fact that so many people see what is clearly stylized pants as her ass is truly annoying
>>729073872> Marries Sherma.
>>729073872Funny how troons are ok with le 1000 year old dragon when it's lesbians
>>729077737You tell that strawman anon.
>>729077737when they HEADCANON them.
>>729077145Lace is Hornet's aunt.
>>729078148This
>>729078148Yeah but only in a very technical sense.
>>729077737whats with the i ship everything and get mad at everyone else's ships lol just be normal and play gameare you gonna say there like an unspoken vidya rule: everyone is gay unless proven otherwise. or some bullshit like that? lol
lolibaba thread?
>>729077145it's pretty obvious that the ending which Silksong builds upon is dream no more, in that ending Hornet in fact does lose the Knight to the void
>>729075557Genichiro was perfectly set up. Like Lace, he starts as this cocky, stuck-up cunt who shits all over you in an early boss fight. Being forced into a loss really makes you want to rip that fucker a new one, and you finally get that opportunity in Ashina Castle. You might still be familiarising yourself with the game's combat, so Genichiro is likely the toughest challenge you'll face thus far. Getting him on the back foot and forcing him to shed his armour to use his forbidden lightning technique is the coolest shit ever, like he finally realises you're not somebody to trifle with and is pulling out all the stops to win. His final fight is a pathetic last stand where he realises there's nothing more he can do to save his homeland, so he deigns to kill you anyway out of spite. The player should be familiar with his fight by this point, so he's just a pushover. Beating Genichiro here represents how far Wolf, and by extension the player, has come.Lace is barely a character. She'll fight you and taunt you with her ojou-sama cackle in Act 1, but she has no motive here than to just be a cunt or slow down Hornet's ascent. It's never explicitly stated that she freed Hornet, and the game never goes with that angle, even if Hornet confronting Lace about it would've given the latter some much-needed depth. Lace's early Act 2 appearance is more taunting with a GMS foreshadow, but she's still nothing but a mild nuisance. She's GMS's lackey just as much as Widow is. After beating Lace in Act 2, the game tries to speedrun her character development, but it feels forced and tacked on this far in. The game desperately attempts to redeem her with her sacrifice in Act 3, but I just can't feel anything for her. Her sacrifice lacks the payoff that her prior appearances failed to set up.tldr: Lace isn't a confident, formidable, dynamic rival like Genichiro; she's a lackey who throws a temper tantrum because mommy doesn't love her enough, and Hornet has to clean up after her.
>>729073902No one does haute like a Japanese woman.
I'm so tired of lesbian shit in video games
>>729079434In 2025 there's not a single new LGBT show, gaming will follow very soon.
>>729078883Is it? Because it is just as likely Silksong might be also building upon the two Godhome endings.
>>729079082>The game desperately attempts to redeem her with her sacrifice in Act 3Can you even count that as a sacrifice? Lace just wanted to fuck over her mom, she wasn't out to save Hornet. Furthermore, she's willingly dooming the entirety of Pharloom with her actions.
>>729075557>who would win, hydrogen bomb or coughing babyare sekiro and silksong the only games you've ever played or do you just like pretending to be a dishonest retarddo you know how common the multi encounter rival is across video games? because there's definitely more even comparisons to draw than fromsoft master work vs metroidvania made in an australian shack
>>729073872>Improves your game
>>729080562Sekiro vs Silksong is an even comparison, it's just that Lace sucks as a rival.
>Fat assed ojousama 1000 yr old loli with rivals to lovers yuri>Cold exposure ENF sequenceThey made this game specifically for me.
>>729079995isn't the difference between the two endings whether the knight survives and how much of a gigagod ghost becomes?
>>729082894Is this how tumblrtards see this game?
>>729080562Holy projection. I'm just drawing comparisons from two of the most recent games I've played that have this trope. Calm the fuck down
>GMS binds Hornet and merges with her pale being side if you miss the bind button promptWhy did TC cut this ending? I fought GMS a second time in my first playthrough, hoping something would happen if I didn't press bind, but I was disappointed to find that the game just sits there indefinitely and waits for you to bind her.
>>729083362My only good guess is that they decided to do a similar concept for an even later ending and didn't want to make something in the base game that would be made redundant by DLC, but it's just as likely they just didn't want to draw a few of the involved frames or something.
>>729074368She needed more scenes.>Shows up in random places and taunts you>Sitting at the bar in Halfway Home when you first get there, grumpy because Creige won't serve her alcohol, asks Hornet to buy her a drink, storms off in a huff when Hornet refuses>When Hornet gets arrested and locked up in the Slab, Lace is sitting on her cage and waiting for her to wake up, says "good luck lol" and leaves>Waiting outside Last Judge's room, congratulates Hornet on reaching the gates>Think she's going to try to stop you, but she lets you go and tricks you into thinking that you've gained entry already b4 Last Judge happens>You can find her in the pin room in the Citadel where you find the oil, and she grumbles at you about her pin getting dirty and covered in smudges>Wanders into Craw territory and gets henpecked, you have to get rid of the enemies aroud her, then Hornet will tease her about itYes? No?
>>729083672Cringe.
>>729074368Can I be honest, I never really cared about the story for either of the games. I can only care about a select few characters. Like sure the world building and lore is there but the actual story of what happens during the games are boring. TC just can’t write a compelling story imo.
the moment I was sold on Lace was when I found the mirror near Phantom
>>729074368>center the entire third act around herThe fucking snail shamans were more the center of act 3 than Lace was. What the fuck?
>>729083672Some of these scenarios make Lace out to be an incompetent, bumbling joke, as if she's an evil villain from an 80s cartoon. She's supposed to be Hornet's rival, not Pharloom's Zote equivalent. I remember TC introducing her explicitly as a sadist in one of their dev blog updates a few years ago. Treating her as a cutest, lovable, incompetent fool detracts from her gravitas. I hate yurifaggots.
>>729084776I was going for "tries to make herself seem haughty and aloof, but she's really just a child throwing a tantrum" angle, but okay. Don't you think some cracks in the facade would make her a bit more endearing, which she desperately needs?
>>729084776>Some of these scenarios make Lace out to be an incompetent, bumbling joke, as if she's an evil villain from an 80s cartoonWorse; she's a Junko Enoshima knockoff, also completely at odds with Silksong's tone. At least '80s cartoon villains have sovl.
>>729084776Lace was already an incompetent bumbling joke by virtue of being the third boss in the game, completely skippable, all she does his "ohohoho~" once or twice until the Cradle, and she's still piss easy.
>>729083672>>729084776>Hollow Knight: Twinsanity
>>729074368>Shows up three times in 70 hours of gameplay>Game is named after him
>>729079434>You will never fuck an animated character
>>729085027>make her a bit more endearing, which she desperately needs?Criticisms against Lace are never about her likability. She just isn't interesting or well-developed, and the game expects you to care about her after her second fight and come Act 3.I don't want Lace to be likable, anyway. That was never the intent with her character. She's a hateable villain with a tragic backstory and a rushed redemption arc in Act 3. Giving her more appearances throughout the game is the right idea, but she shouldn't be endearing during these moments; she should be even MORE of a rat bastard, so long as it serves a worthwhile, understandable motive (something TC hasn't given Lace). Making her a cunt, albeit a reasonable one, makes her redemption believable.
>>729074368Yeah we should have been given an intercom with Lace talking you at all times like in Metroid Prime
>>729088584She doesn't even have a redemption. The only reason you save her is so her mom stops destroying everything. She's still an evil, unlikable bitch at the very end. Which is fine, but they still half-assed it by not making her unlikable enough.
>>729082971you really had enough trouble figuring out which was better that you felt you had to ask such a dumb question?think a little harder man
>>729083672This is what fanfiction is for, anon. It is a storytelling success that the audience is left daydreaming about what other little interactions and conversations characters would have. It's something that makes FFX hold up so well, the game is full of places and moments that could have had more interactions between characters you understand, but doesn't.
>>729088584She should've murdered some npcs
>>729088584>Hollow Knight is the story of a living being told that its entire existence has been preordained by a Higher Being and it must live within those confines or else bring about ruin>Silksong introduces Lace, a living being of silk created by a Higher Being and told it must live within the confines of what GMS wants her to be or else>Lace, because she is infact alive and not just an empty vessel, has desires and motives of her own that make her a "failure" by the metrics of her creator>In Act 3 Lace has rebelled against her creator and accepted she will die for it>Lace doesn't believe she can exist outside the life given to her by GMS>Hornet, having known the Hollow Knight and Little Ghost, understands she canSaving Lace is a way for Hornet to refute her parent's doomed worldview. Hornet does it because she's creating a new future.
>>729090620>Lace, because she is infact alive and not just an empty vessel, has desires and motives of her own that make her a "failure" by the metrics of her creatorThis never happens.
>>729077291Silksong taught us that bug can have big soft butt instead of an abdomen
>any mentions of lacenet and shipping of Lace at all has been banned on official d*cord due to her actually being a childYuriFAGGOTS, not like this....
>>729077737You gotta elaborate on how Lace relates to pedophilia.
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Spoilers for the final boss for the SoS DLC
>>729093465The DLC/Cyclops boss fight is merely a vehicle to introduce Hornet to CrossWorlds.
>>729088584There should have been more moments where she actively opposes or sabotages you, either via additional fights (though propably not necessary given that we already have 3) or otherwise stops/hampers your progress. Shit like, dunno, flipping a switch etc that closes a doorway in front of you, forcing you to do some alternative path/puzzle to open the way, breaking a bridge under your feet plunging you back down to fucking bone bottom or something, triggering gauntlet fights and so on.Essentially, make her the instigator of more of the shit you have to deal with as you climb up to the Citadel.
>>729073872truth nuke, I absolutely adored silksong but the lace/granny silk stuff are some of the weakest elements in the game, I know radiance would be very tough to top, but surely they could've come up with something better, or at least added more characterization so those final moments actually hit properly
>>729093889eh they fit the more personal story a lot betterhk's radiance was really grand but lacked any weight imo, the reveal with the sun saves it
>>729094129sure it's more personal, but both granny and lace barely have any presence in the game, it's hard to be personal when the characters are barely there to begin with, the final mother / daughter moments hit to some degree because that's something pretty much anybody can empathize with, but like I said they could've gone a lot further with it
>>729088584>>729093870For me the main problem with her character is that nothing she does or says up to defeating her in the Cradle actually builds up to her character of breaking mommy's toys because she wants mommy's attention. It's like they decided to write two different characters and merge them together, which is ridiculous since she was originally written for a short DLC story.
>>729094337yeah but then i struggle to see where they could have possibly fleshed it out granny i think is fine to leave as is, i guess they could have had a white palace variant and developed lace more through that to show her relationship with granny but what do i knowand yes, i want a hks PoP but 5 times harder with mandatory crest swaps after every room
>>729090620Isn't it revealed that lace was shitting and crying for no reason and GMS did genuinely care about her?
>>729090620that's not entirely true,Ghost chose to take a different path than the one he was created for,Lace is choosing to continue to try to be the daughter she was built to be, she doesn't have her own aspiration different from the ones given to hershe has accepted that purpose as her ownall her actions were about keeping Hornet away from GMS, because she feared being replaced
>>729094536yeah I think some sort of memory sequence for either of them could work, or another area with more lore tied to them, PoP 2.0 could be interesting I suppose
it's over for me, i found the game to be on the easier side of things. lost lace was decent but a bit underwhelmingat least i got lost sinner as a good hitless challenge
>>729084776>she's supposed to be hornet's rivalThen TC dropped the ball when trying to present Lace like that, at the moment she is a nothing character.
>>729074684Is this an edit of that famous furry abuse picture?
>>729075557Lace is literally the worst rival character i can remember in any soulslike.Like, Escribar in Blasphemous and Eviterno in Blasphemous 2 are only encountered at the absolute ass end of the game. But they are presented in such a way they immediately earn their status, while Lace stays an annoying, selfish brat i don't want to have anything to do with. I bring Blasphemous because Silksong is just a Blasphemous ripoff thematically.
Lace should've been a reverse of Hornet, in that she pretends to aid you instead of fight you, but at the end she reveals she was only aiding you to help bring down her mother's kingdom and she only fights you once when the truth is revealed.
Sherma deserved to be a centerpiece of the story way more than Lace.>actually likeable>connected to music in a game called silksong>supernatural ability to stay alive that could be explained by some divine providence or supernatural powers>the only character who goes through an actual character arc>shit ton of screentime
>>729088584>even MORE of a rat bastard,Agreed.
>>729085957and somehow he's still a better character than lace
>>729074368>center the entire third act around her>ImplyingHornet talks to her twice. The third act is about saving Pharloom.
>>729096078probably tc's best character
Did path of pain really change people's perception of the story much? I recall it was dlc but I wasn't invested beforehand.
>>729096525no, PoP had very little story implications if anyit was just a cool section that pushed hk's limited moveset to the maximum, i want the same for hks
>>729096525>>729096724didn't it add that extra scene with the pale king and the hollow knight? I think that built into the idea that he cared at least on some level, so this vessel designed to be hollow wasn't so hollow after all and that's what caused the infection to spread anyways
>>729093465> HORNY HORNY DOO!> WHERE ARE YOU?
>>729096525Wouldn't it be funny if once all the DLC have come out people's view on Lace has completely shifted flr the better? Nah don't count on it
>>729096078Sherma will have a boss fight in the final DLC. Picture kind of related.
>>729093465Spoilers for level hazards.
>>729085507Would actually be keen
>>729079082>The game desperately attempts to redeem her with her sacrifice in Act 3Lace regrets nothing and was content to die. Hornet saved her as part of her goal to save the kingdom and because GMS wanted her to which is why she gives Hornet the power to escape the Abyss.
>>729096906People say that but honestly we kind of already knew that. The fact the Hollow Knight was supposed to be empty and yet hesitated and looked back at its siblings already betrayed the idea that something was there all along. Not just that though. The Void Heart claiming that it can unify the Void under its will, even though the Pale King claims Void creatures explicitly do not have that. Or the Shade Beast saying the Void is powerful but not unified. Or whatever the fuck The Collector was supposed to be. We had plenty of evidence that the Pale King was wrong about the Void before Path of Pain's secret scene
>>729073872I was going through some comments about Silksong and it was so surprising how many times I saw someone say along the lines of “The climax of Silksong is more personal than Hollow Knight because it’s about saving a friend (Lace) from hell” and did we play different games? From my pov Hornet could not give a single shit about Lace.
>>729098307that's the point isn't it? hornet does not really care about her surroundings and is only focused on her goals, but slowly changes and starts to actually care for what is happeningthe culmination is in act 3 and her attempting to save an already ruined kingdom. saving lace is what makes that change even more apparent
>>729098579The problem is that Hornet nor the player could give less of a shit about Lace.
>>729098650just like how hornet could give less of a shit about the pharloom, or sherma, or everything in itshe could've just left after act 3, after all both she and us players could give less of a shit
>>729098784Yeah but by comparison we do give a shit about Sherma and the rest of Pharloom by the end of it.
>>729098784Hornet wants to save Pharloom because they’re innocent and don’t deserve this fate, Lace is pretty much just evil she attacks people on sight and has a nasty personality. Saving Lace is just a means to save Pharloom if they wanted to convey some kind of…comradeship? sympathy? for Lace it went straight over my head.
>>729098307>From my pov Hornet could not give a single shit about Lace.While I wouldn't describe it like the comments you paraphrased. I got the impression that Hornet felt a kinship with Lace. Being the princesses of fallen kingdoms, daughters of pale beings, both born to something of a cursed existence. Then you add the fact that Lace saved Hornet, and she might feel indebted to Lace to some degree. Friendship I don't buy. They talked like 3.5 times throughout the games, and the conversations were hardly lengthy. But there is certainly a connection between them. One I am sure they both felt from the very beginning. Lace presumably jailbreaking you during your escort, for better or worse, wasn't for nothing either. There was always tension between them. And that tension leaned on strong parallels. Makes sense and feels believable to me. I never had trouble with it. I quite like it fact. I just feel like it would have been rad to fight against Lost Silk. Hopefully they make that possibility real in a future expansion.
>>729098784>>729098921I mean I personally didn't care about Lace, but I also didn't really care about a lot of the characters in Silksong either. Like sure Sherma is cute, but that's pretty much it. I found other child characters in other media more compelling and interesting.
>>729098307I don't get it either. I thought it was pretty clear Hornet only saved Lace because it would save Pharloom. If there was anything personal, it was because Hornet got reminded of the vessels that were sacrificed to the void. At least in Hollow Knight you faced against the culmination of your existence alongside your siblings
Lace, my incompetent bratty daughterwife
>>729073872>ruins literally everything
>>729099563she's only 1000 years old you suck bug
>>7290998191000 bug years is probably equal is 18 human years maybe
>>729099248>Then you add the fact that Lace saved HornetShe didn't save Hornet, the whole point of wanting to put a stop to her ascension is because she wants to spite her mother.
>>729100163Be that as it may. She still saved Hornet. You can dissect her motivations, but it does not dispute her actions.
>>729077634This is what she’s got inside.
Guys don't look up lace on Twitter. Worst mistake of my life
