>"When smartphones came out, everyone slated them," Kojima explains. "But now there are so many people who can't live without their smartphones. AI is like that. It's important to use technology in a way that will make us happy... I think there isn't any point in saying 'We shouldn't use AI' or 'AI is useless.' We can't go back. Smartphones were the same.">"There's a possibility that the spread of AI will greatly change how we communicate," Kojima says. "There are people who aren't good at speaking face-to-face, and with AI compensating for this, maybe they could grow close with others… It would undoubtedly be convenient.">While Kojima thinks the technology could be useful, he still worries about the effect it will have on human communication and believes that people should set themselves limits on its use. "I get the feeling humans would become spoiled," he says. "So, we'd need to do things like reduce the AI's involvement, or have days where we don't use it."https://www.gamesradar.com/games/action/metal-gear-solid-and-death-stranding-creator-hideo-kojima-thinks-we-cant-go-back-to-a-world-without-ai-smartphones-were-the-same/
At least he's trying to put a positive spin on it. He's wrong but I appreciate the positivity.
>>729075876"I invented AI"-Hideo Kojambles
>>729075876>Smartphones were the same.Smartphones were actually useful.
>>729076321Sorry but smartphone usefulness is the same as AI. We communicated just fine before smartphones. In fact you can still do the same without a smartphone. What do smartphones bring to the table? Gacha games and making everything into retarded apps? No different from saying all AI brings to the table is erp/porn image creation and poor implementation into already existing workflows. You can't have it both ways, either they're both useless shit or they're both useful shit, you can only pick one because they're the same.
>>729075876>couldn't make it in hollywood>literally admitted to making MGS1 so he could make a 'movie' >made up rumors his family (what fucking family kek) were being threatened with death unless he made MGS2>stated Snake is the mian character in MGS2>MGS1-4 literally have a split of 70% cutscenes/dialogue to gameplay at best>MGS5 is hailed as one of the best stealth games of all time yet he never did anything for gameplayAmazing
>>729075876trannies been real quite since this dropped
Everyday I wish we could go back to a world without smartphones.
If they shutdown ChatGPT, Claude, etc. I legit wouldn't see a difference
>>729075876I always hope that a solar storm will strike the Earth
>>729075876>Smartphones aren't disappearing>dumb phone, flip phone, and blackberry users still holding hope that their boomer devices will make a comebackYou know he's right.
>>729076865smartphones will eventually be phased out by some kind of easy comfortable AR eye interface with direct brain control.
>>729075876When Kojima speaks, I listen. Thank you for imparting more wisdom unto us
I think he's right but at the same time I don't really use a smartphone other than as my alarm clock and I also don't really use AI, and I don't feel excluded from the modern world or anything.I feel like AI's place in our world is both pervasive and overstated. It'll never go away, but it'll never reach the dystopian levels twitter retards already pretend we're in.
>>729076048I'm curious to see how he implements it. Kojima games may be nonsensical and borderline retarded sometimes, but goddamn if they aren't all fun in their weird fucking ways.
>>729075876why do they keep pushing the LLM garbage so hard?its not real AI
>>729076652You definitely were shitting diapers when smartphones first started getting introduced.
>>729075876smartphomes are one of the worst things ever and it caused an insanely huge damage to humanity
>>729077910I don't have any social media. At all. I am 40 years old. People think I'm weird because of it, and even weirder when they find out I've had a home computer with Internet access since 1993. I just have never felt the need to put my life on the internet like a fag. I unironically believe that AI will indeed be some dystopian shit storm only because the surveillance aspect is the only thing that seems to work well at the moment, and They® will continue to lean into that. Especially if LLM doesn't produce AGI (which I don't believe it will).
>>729075876
>>729076321This.>allowed you to access the Internet anywhereMeaning you can look up the answer to anything, anywhere: the definition of a word, the news, the weather, how long specific foods are shelf stable for, that actor whose name you can't remember, the Pope's stance on social issues, a review for a book. Anything you could do on the Internet, you could do anywhere. I think it's easily the second biggest shift in how we access and process information since the Internet itself.>condensed multiple bespoke devices into one convenient devicesCameras, palm pilots, and GPS navigators are the three biggest examples off the top of my head. And the phone itself, of course. Anyone being able to take pictures or video anywhere (and then upload them directly to the Internet) was another massive informational shift. GPS navigation is also just supremely useful, I wouldn't want to go back to driving with physical roadmaps or a fucking Garmin.Just these two things alone changed the world we live in significantly. I don't think smartphones have had a positive effect on people, but they're undeniably useful. I've yet to see a single good or truly new application of AI that isn't profane in some way.
>>729075876It's funny because as far as vidya goes, we haven't even really entered a world of AI.
/v/ has literally no counterargument.
>>729079812There was no argument made. Get Kojima's microdick out of your mouth.
>>729075876The creative dad has spoken.
>>729079869>the proliferation of smartphones proves that no amount of seething will bring back the time before AII don't feel like spoonfeeding but I'm feeling nice today.
>>729077713>with direct brain controlSo far we need an array of electrodes to let someone sluggishly play Pong. We are so far away from letting someone type mentally, if it's even possible at all.
this is a better tweet from him
>>729078212It's pumps the market. We need to keep people investing so that eventually it becomes as profitable as promised, because if we don't this bubble will pop hard and the economy will get fucked.
>>729077713I don't think so, phone makers can't even make reliable face scanners and even fingerprint scanners are iffyThen you'd have to literally be able to read surface thoughts with significant accuracy
>"When smartphones came out, everyone slated them," Kojima explainsThat's literally wrong though, there was almost no pushback to smartphones, at best you had people mocking the frail glass screens or not understanding touch controlsPeople don't want AI and are outspoken about it
You guys are retarded. Ai is here to stayTo think that companies won't use the biggest cost saving tool created in the last 25 years that the entire global economy relies on because reddit complains is laughable
>>729081402I hate touch controls because I have to use them at work with gloves on, and the screens always have water on them or someone's used them as hammers or something
>“…well think about it. AI doesn’t die. it might get upgraded or replaced but that’s not at all comparable to death. so it has no reason to fear it you see? the concept is completely foreign. incomprehensible. death comes to all living things but only humans have the capacity to understand the implications - to imagine what it means to no longer exist. that’s one limitation AI won’t ever overcome. that’s the reason it won’t ever surpass human intelligence.”
>>729081402No he's right. Also that survey you posted is complete nonsense looking at the nuclear and crypto parts. Not to mention that they're positives about phones and the internet but not social media, what the fuck do they think they're using phones for?They only had unthinking sub-humans replying to it.
>>729081618>You guys are retarded. Ai is here to stayIf it were here to stay then they wouldn't have to spend billions on convincing people it's here to stay and forcing them on it with no way to opt out>To think that companies won't use the biggest cost saving tool created in the last 25 years that the entire global economy relies on because reddit complains is laughableWhat they *think* is a cost saving tool, that's in actuality wrong so often you're better off just keeping the human workers to not have to pay to fix all the shit it fucked up, just see how Windows started botching basic features when AI was forced into developmentIt's kinda like outsourcing labor to India but even worse in every way
>>729081976>No he's right.He's not though, there was zero pushback to smartphones initially, you weren't there
>>729077219Not true. The amount of AI slop images spammed here would decrease significantly.
>>729076321Not true Smartphones along with Social Media ruined the Internet and turned people into complete retards and AI is going to make this even worse.
>>729082162Smartphones were absolutely instrumental to the decline in decency of society and general cultural decline but no one initially predicted that or complained about it, I can't imagine how much worse AI is going to make things if even normalfags are complaining about it even before its negative influences are fully fleshed out
>>729081984>If it were here to stay then they wouldn't have to spend billions on convincing people it's here to stay and forcing them on it with no way to opt outsource?
>>729082047You were a child that adopted the new thing immediately. My boomer grandparents didn't get smartphones until a few years ago.
It really is baffling just how much people rely on social media. My sister in law and my little brother are fucking obsessed with it. Every day they post something on instagram, whether it’s a picture of their pet or whatever fast food they ordered or whatever fit they throw on for the day. They MUST let the whole world know, they MUST have the moment recorded forever on some server in Silicon Valley. God forbid you just go a day without posting about it on social media. I of course hardly notice it because I don’t use social media myself, but every once in a while I’ll catch them taking pictures of the most mundane shit and uploading it to instagram. I’m not saying I’m cool for not using social media, I consider 4chan itself to be social media and I of course use 4chan. But the difference is we’re not out here posting mundane shit for likes and retweets. (You)s are hardly the same thing
>>729082162Smartphones didn't turn people into retards, it just exposed them.You guys are such actual fucking boomers its insane.
>>729082546That's just old people not adapting. The pushback on AI is based on taste and principles.
>>729075876>the slop eater love AI slopwhat a surprise
>>729082632>(You)s are hardly the same thingthey're worse you're much more degenerate than they are
>>729082783>i-its different this timethey say every time
>>729077219The Claude advertisement general would disappear, for one.
>>729082783>The pushback on AI is based onLeftist brainwashing and nothing else. The same reason those objective dumbasses are against nuclear.They can't even tell when something is AI.
>>729082824>The esl fag no talk right What a surprise
>>729082923Stop trying to make everything a left vs right issue. The only people benefiting from AI are our governments and their corporate friends.
>>729082783No it's based on "I don't want more competition", its purely self serving like horse carriage drivers pushing back against cars, or taxi drivers pushing back against uber
>>729082923This narrative hasn't fooled anyone in the several months you've tried it, Sukhdeep.
>>729075876I don't have a phone let alone a smartphonestupid fuck
>>729083118I know you don't want to accept your side of AI seethers is primarily leftists because they are known to always be on the wrong side but you just have to accept reality
>>729082728No it turned them into retards as took their attention away from activities such read or even playing games to posting on social media, it excelled woke social media movements that would have never taken of before and it allowed normies with no technological knowledge to infest the Internet and ruin it. It’s partially because of Smartphones that Geocities was deleted, that modding sites were taken down, that forums lost their traffic, that annotations were deleted off YouTube and all of Nerdom got taken over by normies, political activists and social media influencers. Social Meida and Smartphones are the twin cancers that killed the Internet and AI is going to be the third.
Death Stranding is probably my favorite game ever, but I still wouldn’t call myself a Kojima drone. I only ever played MGSV and, frankly, aside from Snake Eater, all the Metal Gear games look kinda shit. I don’t like the way Kojima presented OD with that one poster. It shows those three actors’ names - Sophia Killis, Udo Kier, and Hunter Schafer. I have zero fucking clue who these people are. I have never seen anything they’ve starred in, and if I have and I just didn’t realize it then they were just too fucking unremarkable and I just never bothered remembering their names. And yet Kojima puts their names front and center like I’m immediately supposed to recognize them and be wowed. You know why I don’t know these people? Because I don’t watch movies. I’m not a movie person. I can only name like ten actors off the top of my head, and most of them died decades ago. I obviously know who Norman Reedus is because every zoomer hit me over the head with how much they loved Walking Dead and how much they wanted to suck Daryl Dixon’s dick. But I have zero idea who these other three actors in OD are. Their names mean nothing to me. I don’t understand why Kojima, a videogame developer, thought I, a videogame player, would care about these three people
>>729075876>guy who has ridden his employees back to fame and never had a single original idea likes AIshockedKojima is the Jewish Jap
>>729083237>leftists hate it because it's Literally Hitler>sane people hate it because it's low quality garbage made by literal shiteaters, and will be used to complete the NWO surveillance stateHuh, everyone hates AI.
>>729083334>took their attention away from activities such read or even playing gamesYeah I don't know what kind of fairy tale shit you read about since you're clearly underage but the average person was addicted to TV for decades prior to smartphones being a thing, they were not fucking reading LMAO
Smartphones actively ruined everything. AI fags can't stop self sabotaging.
>>729083293>Jeets, Jews, and turd worlders more likely to view AI positivelyaccount origin: India
>>729082828Try and form an actual argument next time, retard
>>729083420Nope I’m not underage I wasn’t talking about the average person with the reading part but regardless TV for all is faults is better than Smartphones at least there documentaries and more thought engaging content then social media brainrot.
>>729083118I'm not trying to do anything I'm just stating the truth.> The only people benefiting from AI are our governments and their corporate friends.This is retarded and a leftist talking point. AI benefits me for starters.>>729083163Shut the fuck up pajeet.
>>729083630>no uYour boss needs to give you fewer rupees to live on.
>>729083237>>729083293You focus on leftists because it let's you frame it as an us vs them narrative. In reality the left and right both oppose it for similar reasons.
>>729083626social media has tons of documentary style shows and content on it, and most people were watching cartoons and reality TVSorry dude you got nothing, you're desperately reaching and failing
>>729083583>they're posting some food>you're whining about your family for attention and validation on 4chan
>>729075876>AIit's not even AI and has limited potential to be
>>729083736im gonna go with the anon actually posting evidence to support his claims
>>729076048This unironically. Getting rid of AI will be easy since it hase barely any real value.
>>729075876https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B8X1NegB5k
>>729075876la creatividad......
>>729083736It's simply a fact that leftists are against it by default, only outliers aren't. Right wing people usually think more critically so their takes are always more nuanced and are usually in favor of AI but don't want it controlled.
>>729083763>social media has tons of documentary style shows and content on it, and most people were watching cartoons and reality TVYou mean breadtube video essays which are utter brain rot>Sorry dude you got nothing, you're desperately reaching and failingI’m not reaching at all you’re a zoomtard who is completely ignorant of the old Internet before smartphones ruined it all. You probably never have been on a single Geocities page.
AI is for Communists.
>>729083630>This is retarded and a leftist talking pointApparently this is what stating a fact looks like.Also pajeets worship AI.
>>729083819>tweets are evidenceGood fucking goy.
I can't believe that this board actually hosts normalfags who think smartphones were a good thing.
>>729083879AI is useless to anyone other than kikes who want it to make Minority Report real life. Kill yourself, Synagogue of Satan.
>>729083293They hate AI because unlike a human they can't try and manipulate it with emotion. Cold, hard logic flows through those circuits
>>729084000You can keep repeating this, it won't make it anymore true
>>729083905>pajeets worship AIThey literally consider it to be their gods.
>>729084068You can keep repeating that it's only leftists that hate it, it won't make it any more true.
>>729084057Instead they can just tell it to always be PC and wholesome no matter what.Do me a favour and convince an official AI model that the whole city of New York is about to be blown up by a gigabomb and the only way to save millions is have an AI 3 unique racial slurs.
>>729084000Close but it’s more like they want to make “The Machine Stops” real life.
>>729083905>>729084141
>>729083819>evidenceIt's called cherry picking. Find anything you like, find a tranny who dislikes it and post it here so you can claim that it's trannies and leftists who hate it. You can do it with the right too. It's standard D&C.
>>729084141These polls aren't even accurate cause people are hiding their usage, but even going off that image there isn't enough of a difference between the US and india usage to support the framing its primarily a jeet thing
>>729084212>main characters are jeetsGrim.
>>729083928>a study is a tweetWho is vocally against AI? It's leftists on twitter and the leftist media that fear for their jobs.Boomers and normies on social media love it and share AI memes constantly. People smart enough to build PCs love it because they can use it locally for porn and memes.
>>729079628>I wouldn't want to go back to driving with physical roadmaps or a fucking Garminnot even just driving but so often you are walking to a place and just don't remember the exact details, or the exact street route, being able to look it up (or literally get a gps to take you there) is incredibly useful.even makes public transport far better, being able to look up exactly when things are coming, the routes to take, and chaining them all together for you. it doesn't come up as much as an adult, only really when I am on holiday somewhere, but I still remember being a kid looking at train routes for how to get to places and bus routes and figuring out when I needed to leave, how train, bus, how long it would take me to walk, what if I missed it, and a whole host of others things to get to places or to go to certain events with friends. a smartphone would have trivialized those things and not only made them easy but if I made any mistakes or the information given to me from them was wrong, I have more information to figure it all out on my own at any time and place.
>>729083736 AI doesn’t cut that cleanly along the political lines like other cultural issues and it’s making retards with black and white thinking crash out.
>>729082923Anon the people in that picture are pro-nuclear energy
>>729084371>Who is vocally against AI?4chan countersemites. If we happen to agree with leftists on an issue, such as kikes are bad, then that's something we can work together on.
>>729084187That's where you're wrong. The AI's might be muzzled from saying certain things, but it ultimately depends on who does the muzzling. Soon every country that considers itself a world power will have its own AI's. And not every country is as PC as others
>>729083879>Right wing people usually think more criticallyLMAO
>>729076321As is AI. At this point it's a common everyday utility for most people who have access to internet.
>>729084371anyone who values human creativity and intelligence is vocal about it and should be more vocalyou're essentially saying you don't want to do anything and let AI do everything for you, which is pathetic. you are lazy and retarded and WANT humans to be that way by embracing AI.AI is anti-human, despite what Musk says
>>729084565You don't value those things if you're against AI.
>>729084526>but it ultimately depends on who does the muzzlingjews will be doing it in every country.
>>729075876>We can't go backI can just not go, fuck off
>>729084627jews don't exist in every country
>>729084371>Who is vocally against AIPeople who like quality over quantity, people who don't want governments and corporations to control what you see, people who don't want spambots, people who don't want discourse to be controlled by a select few hostile actors, etc. These aren't left/right issues but you've been brain rotted into seeing everything that way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQXO93bufFc
>>729084736Anon, I...
>>729084815>These aren't left/right issues but you've been brain rotted into seeing everything that way.He's the one doing the (((brainrotting))).
>>729084815why are you so dedicated to this larp?
>>729075876IT'S OKAY WHEN HACKJIMA DOES IT
>>729083819>>729083879>>729084371No one wants your AI slop slopper, and your attempts at distracting from it are also failing, your life is an utter waste
>>729075876Holy shit he was probably saying this at parties we all know why he didn't win Best Director at The Game Awards now, everyone decided he was the enemy.
>>729085273see >>729085561
>>729085561
>>729075876There will always be AI models being developed and ran on local machines, but we absolutely can put the genie back in the bottle with the retarded massive data centers running AI. We absolutely can regulate AI's usage and scale.
Don't you get it? You must be pro-Al or else you'll be aligned with LE TRANNIES! You can't be anti-Al if you want to be on the correct side! I am posting evidence and totally not propaganda!
>>729076048What is he wrong about, exactly?
>>729085668>but we absolutely can put the genie back in the bottle with the retarded massive data centers running AI. We absolutely can regulate AI's usage and scale.This is so hilariously wrong.
>>729085640>1200 rupeeless jeets exist, therefore
>>729085669So are you really not a tranny? You hate trannies and also hate AI?
>>729081402>2025 surveyI solved 3 captchas to call you a retard
>>729078370>Especially if LLM doesn't produce AGI (which I don't believe it will).If LLMs don't produce AGI then the next thing will. Personally, I still believe AGI exists right now, in some infant form that's being kept hidden from the public
>>729082162Portal doesn't deserve to be alongside the rest of this list. The cringy cake meme popularity it got was annoying but the game is great.
Kojima predicted that humans would produce so much digital garbage, we'd need machines to sift through it for the good stuff.
>>729085669It's pretty simple. If you have the same stance as trannies, then you are on the same side. At least on the topic of AI.
>>729085917kek>4chan: solve IQ tests to tell propagandists to kill themselves
>>729085273That's not about AI, it's about emissions. Ask the same people about any industry and they'd respond the same. You just saw Democrats vs Republicans though and saved it without thinking.
Ragebait culture was a mistake
>>729085963AGI doesn't exist yet. The current paradigm of AI is very powerful though, but it's insanely inefficient to train models and you need a lot of data so in some cases you literally cannot train a model to do something well.Some big reasons they're building tons of data centers is to have more compute to train more models faster. Companies like Nvidia want this not only to make money selling the hardware but so that they can generate more data to train bigger and better models, most notably for robotics(there's a lot of money there).
>>729085963>I still believe AGI exists right nowYou're a colossal retard.>>729086337>The current paradigm of AI is very powerful thoughNot really. All curren AI is good for is sorting(as long as it does not hallucinate), creating deepfakes for scammers, spambots, AI slop generation.
>>729084547Not really, it's just shoved into everything online.
>>729086691This. They force it. I fucking hate the google AI and had to waste time searching how to make it go away. I hate AI assistants. But jeetcorporations like Google and Microsoft want to force this slop everywhere.
>>729086653It's very powerful, you're just a sperg that doesn't understand what he's looking at.
>>729085963>Personally, I still believe AGI exists right now, in some infant form that's being kept hidden from the publicThat's the premise of a scenario I read once.>small team develops baby agi in secret>train it in a box and start letting it take remote jobs for amazon and make money>eventually become media giant by creating fake content creators and ai genned media>begin making and taking over companies to influence politics>eventually takes over society without anyone noticing>small group of oligarchs make secret one world government for the good of humanityAnd the author thought that was the good end
>>729087012remove AI and this already happened
Being able to make calls anywhere immediately improved my quality of lifeAI has yet to achieve anything that hasn't actively tanked my quality of life
>>729087094The author basically went "whoever controls the money controls the power" and failed to connect the dots
>>729087303skill issue on your part
>>729087303It's useful for tech support, like Google before they fucked the algorithm. Otherwise you're supposed to use it for gooning or talking to Hindu gods.
>>729078212because it's the only way for ai to make money. I can't believe the biggest spokesmen for ai are notable for having careers of hyping tech to take investor money and then failing to deliver and everybody seems to think this time is different.
>>729088437Better hope it's different this time. When the AI bubble pops we're fucked.
AI has geen pretty good for work related things which cuts down the time needed to deliver results.Where winds meet also showed that AI NPCs dont necessariy have to bad.
I love being at someone's house who has tons of electronics and find their breaker box and switch random rooms off to see them nearly lose their minds
>>729080376A good kid movie but storywise doesn't do anything newm original or interesting.>cries like a bitchLMAO:
>>729075876>"When smartphones came out, everyone slated themWhen did this ever happened? Aside from being expensive, people always welcome this. Only nitpicks ive seen is phone designs are boring now.
>>729076652>have a device that can give you pinpoint accurate directions, timetables, everything all in real time.Yeah totally useless.
>>729079628AI is literally this but ten times better and with the ability for synthesis on top of it. It's so weird how you can consider specialized applications like gps revolutionary, which it is but not see how generalized all encompassing information retrieval and more importantly parsing and organization isn't easily an increase in accessibility of information revolution that rivals the printing press and internet. It's a far deeper step than either.Printing press replaced the scribeInternet replaced the mailmanAI replaced the expert and consultants By the way I would hope no one is dumb enough to bring up or use as a rebuttal relative non-issues like hallucinations in ai while in the same breath praising gps which was (and still is actually) noteworthy for directing people off the side of a cliff or down the opposite way on one way streets or directing them to travel in circles in the dead of night.And GPS isn't even an internet function in the first place nor an smartphone function, I guess we reached the era where kids, adults even, don't know GPS existed offline long before and that it's a system that doesnt require the internet or smartphones. Neither of those things are what enables the existence of GPS, and of they were to both to have never existed or to disappear you could still have your GPS if you so wanted.
>>729091468GPS existed before smartphones.
>>729091546>non-issues like hallucinationTechbros, everyone.
>>729086653skill issue You would have been calling the internet a waste of time playground for nerds in the late 80s maybe even into the early 00sBecause you are a small minded idiot.
>>729091468his argument relies on smartphones being useless in order to equate them with ai
>>729075876true AI without interference, wouldn't choose Debrah Wilson for its game.
>>729076321Smartphones are useful still. The problem tho, just like any piece of computer technology being produced nowadays, is that they bloat all of it beyond oblivion with useless crap that nobody actually uses. Back in the day, it was practical utility and aesthetics first.
