>remain
E33 has done untold damage to gaming as a whole
meh, it only becomes an issue when its used to actually code the engine and make levels.People bitching about things like generated voice have to get with the program
These sites nobody give a fuck about anymore are only doing this because it's good clickbait. Eurogamer got tons of traffic for their facetious Arc Raiders review.
>>729082926I trust a robot to create better products than the fucklazy and retarded "artists" and "writers" in the industry now.
>>729082997>just let yourself get scammed bro!Shan't be happening.
AI is literally killing gaming hardware.Anyone who defends AI is against traditional gaming and moves us forward to cloud, where our devices are nothing else but clients for online services.
Anti AI obsession is literally the same thing as the Luddite movement. I'm not joking, it's the same shit.Fallacy and all. Get a job, go outside, the world progresses with or without you.
>>729083409>the world progresses*regresses
Shit. Some gay retard that chose post secondary education for fucking art is losing work to machines. Fuck.
>>729083309Whether you're pro or against, there's no stopping this.>Banks funding it>WEF funding it>Police states love it and want it for digital ID>New military contracts>Only reason mini nuclear reactors are being hard pushed is because of AI
>>729083695**progresses
>>729083713noooo you can only study stem topics because jordan peterson said so
>>729083815We're going back to 8GB RAM
>>7290838728GB market is back on the menu boys
>>729082926>AI only good for obvious slop>The techbros treating it like the second coming of jesus"AI" is going to lay waste to so many worthless tech shitters and jeet infested shitholes once either people realize it's the new blockchain useless shit being sold to them on promises and farts, or the bubble bursts before they do>even the stupid faggot being put on a pedestal cant figure out how to actually make the profit hes promising retarded low/no-info investors
>>729083409Were luddies largely populated by poofters too?
>>729082926Games have gotten more and more homogenous to the point that them turning in to AI slop isn't much more soulless than they already are now.Pre-made engines are when games started to get worse and worse. Unreal Engine and Unity are the main culprits that enable dogshit slop games to be made, with few exceptions.Then the asset stores became a thing and it was honestly completely over at that point.
>all the main AI companies are funding each other to prop up the industry I mean, that shit isn’t actually sustainable no matter how hard you pump it full of money. Normalfags usually get bubbles wrong but not this one. It’s not a matter of if, but when, and when it goes it’s gonna go hard. I’m excited for the collapse, burgers deserve to suffer.
>me sad when AI steal jobs>me happy when Indians steal jobs
>>729082926interesting where
What's the point of being pro-ai? The rich aren't going to give you a reward for bootlicking, you're getting shot and thrown in the mass grave with the rest of us once they no longer need the lower classes
>>729082926>let's bitch and moan until this new transformative technology goes away"credible" journalism is even dumber than 4chan
>>729084281I don't know I've spend multiple days scouring the steam and gog sales and there's zero interesting games here.
>>729082926It's about time AI did something good for once and replaced all the clickbait websites who are just here to try and sell you some nordvpn subscription because that's the reason your battlefield 6 matchmaking is bad or something.
I don't get why game devs think they can afford to be pro AI, in like five years AI is going to let players circumvent their games entirely by just making custom slop.Anti-AI moral posturing is their only hope of securing their own continued existence.
>>729082926Larian lost.Sandfall lost.Get over it trannies
>>729082997>it's only an issue if ai is used for automating or organizing things, it should be used exclusively to pursue "production values" that don't affect how well the game actually works
>>729084209indians are so incompetent that no amount of AI will fix that
>>729084458No no no it is who you is trannies
>>729082926>It's more important than ever to spark up controversies so our dying websites can still get a few clicks for ad revenue
>>729084419It's going to disappear bro, just keep holding hands, it'll go away along with the internet, color TV and the internal combustion engine.Stay strong!
>>729083872We never should have needed more. I see games recommending 64GB while looking like they released a decade ago
>>729082926I would agree if they replace the term "egregious AI usage" with "all AI usage"ANY amount of genAI slop in a game is egregious.
>>729082926https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B8X1NegB5k
>NOOOOO KEEP PAYING US A QUARTER MILLION PER YEAR, YOU'RE LITERALLY KILLING BLACK FOLX!!
What if the devs buy some stock assets and they didnt know they were made with AI help? Are they going to get punished too?
I play video games daily and haven't enjoyed a modern game since Elden Ring.Even that I find to be a solid 7 out of 10.Corporate AI and turn-based luddites trashing everything is fine by me. Get rid of it. We don't need it.
If digital marketplaces like Steam and the console stores were forcing the AI tag this would be a non-issue.The only reason people are mad about the E33 situation is because they feel they were lied to because Sandfall didn't disclose the AI usage properly.Just disclose it and let the customers decide if they're fine with that.
>>729084707Given how people get harassed for merely liking an AI picture someone else made, you bet your ass. It's been a witch hunt for years.
>>729084525I'm perfectly aware it's already here and it's taking over. I don't get why game devs think they are going to be part of the future where Johnny can just tell Grok to fart him out open world Demon Slayer (or current meme IP) rollslop on a moments notice.You'd think they would be trying to at least delay the inevitable.
>>729084913interesting. you're pretending to be something of a game dev right now1. you aren't2. trust me, you don't want to be
>>729084830Sure thing brah, people are going to rage uninstall E33 because there was something in there made with AI...
>>729082926every other industry where software development is needed now uses AI for that.many other industries where art is needed now use AI for that.don't forget that gaming, despite its value, is still an underdog industry very vulnerable to trends. and if its current role model, the movie industry, gets heavy into AI usage, it's guaranteed video games will do too.
I support boobies.
>>729083409>>729083713>>729084419>>729084525>>729084998>account located in India
I have to deal with co-workers using chatgpt for everything even slightly creative at work.I don't want to deal with chatgpt assets in games I play after work.
>games will be less interesting if they use AI to make themif AI makes game worse, just don't buy bad gamesit's like looking up how many women worked on the game to avoid games made by womenjudge the end product not the process
>SAAR AI IS FUTURE>IT WILL BE CODING PROGRAM FOR YOU I AM PROMPT ENGINEER FOR MICROSOFTS>the ai:
>>729083867Obviously a better bet, as are the trades.See, part of why some losers are angry about AI is that it wasn't supposed to happen this way. Robots were supposed to replace dumb blue collar people. Turns our, welding is more important than painting pictures, who knew?"Can a machine create a symphony, or a piece of art?"Turns out... they can! Lmao.
I give no fucks about E33 but I gotta admire the bait and switch.They just made the industry admit that they praised and awarded a game made with AI.
>>729083146If you financially support any game that used digital art and didn't program in machine code, it's not a real game.
>>729083750>there's no stopping thisHere's where you're wrong. We have the power to break them. If we didn't have the power they wouldn't be spamming the net with how *AI* is inevitable and how *AI* techbros have already won.
>>729082926It is absolutely preposterous that so many people think that whining about muh AI usage will achive anything. Imagine believing that your pathetic virtue signaling will stop corporations from using it to save huge amounts of money LMAO
>>729084320>new transformative technologyJeet >>>/out/
>>729082926said by the people who dragged video games through the mud.
>>729084306I am neither pro or anti AII am pro good games. make a game as good as E33 and I don't care if you prompted the entire thing.replacing pajeets, troonslators, and VA's is a good thing btw!
>>729086273You won't do shit, retard. Look at the success of ARC Raiders. It cannot be stopped at this point. Might as well try forcing people to go back to using corded phones and horse-drawn carriages
>>729086301Here is where you're wrong. The longer this goes and the louder we get the more normies will wake up. Corpojeets can't allow the normies to join us because they can't fight against the whole planet (excluding India since Jeets love IA slop).
>>729083409you've almost filledmy bingo card in one post, little drone
>>729086273OK Luddite
>>729086435Right, because yelling at and shaming people worked so well for the Harris campaign right?
>>729082926>remain interestingi'd trade a million E33s for a legit good third person stealth action singleplayer game with a character creator. Or a Fallout 5. Or an Elder Scrolls 6. I don't want mind blowing masterpieces, i just want a good 2010s era stealth action shooter game.
>>729086394This.If machines make better games I don't give a single solitary fuck.The "humans" doing it right now have a pretty poor batting average
>>729086478>muh player counts>for a game that costs moneyyou're illiterate lmao
>>729086454Just a little more and the twink artist will cum in your mouth twice.
>>729086435>normies will wake up
>>729086435All you're doing is annoying regular people. It doesn't matter what your cause is, if you bother regular people they're going to look poorly on whatever cause you think you're championing.
>1 and only single argument against AI is that Indians like it >It's not satire Video games are funny
>>729086259I want to buy something that is fun. if it is not fun, I do not want to buy it. If a machine can make something fun, that humans failed to make themselves, that is not my concern
>>729082926Unless the game that did it is E33, we have to go to bat for that one to hell and back no questions asked because the industry demands it
>>729084884>picture someone else made>ai>someone else made????
>>729086301Just laying down and letting it happen will be worse for my psyche than being against it loudly, even if that achieves nothing.I don't want to end up like these weak, pathetic cunts that are anti AI, and aggressively shilled for E33, for months, that are now on full copium mode and making excuses for the game. Looking at you, Pat. You spineless, ginger midget fucknut.
>AI is inevitable@grok saar please be changing ""blockchain"" text in imag to ""AI"" thank you come again
>>729082926>ai bad!>10,000 jeets good!
>"TECHNOLOGY BAD", says man who spent his entire life playing videogames
Why doesn't /v/ care that to advocate for AI means to bootlick?
>>729086853And those jeets they shill for use AI anyway lol
>>729086578will it make you develop an original thought that isn't a gay fantasy?
>>729086882because /v/ only cares if they game is good, not how it was made (most gamers think this way btw)
Remember when chuds were told off for telling devs what to do? How quickly the worm turns.
Jesus christ this thread is like 90% strawmen, people not even argueing with another person
>>729086882They don't care if they're withering away in a gutter so long as everyone else is too.
Why does every discussion involving AI always degrade into everyone calling each other trannies and jeets?
>>729087283because it's not a discussion it's a ragebait thread
>>729082926*remain dei
>>729087103Indians are the ones who got replaced by ai first anon. Why do you need Indians to write shitty low importance algorithms when ai can do it without making your office smell like curry?
>>729082926>get companies to not use AI>they still make DEI hand holding slop meant to be playable by actual retards, not offend anyone and therefore not enjoyable to anyoneCan't wait.
>>729087283because it's easier than forming an actual argumentanyone resorting to this is simply a midwit following outrage trends
>>729087420>even that sam altman faggot or wahtever his name is, the prophet lord of AI profit>CANT MAKE A PROFITOpenAI was for a long time non-profit anon, and still is for the most part he isnt supposed to make a profit lmfao
>>729086882Because artists are worse. Terrible and lazy people who expect you to fight for them.They won't return the favor. Think of that stupid actor strike. Who the fuck cares.The humans making games are making shit ones, and all I desire is a good product. I don't really care that some artist can't afford his high rise apartment, or is scared of manual labor Not my problem.
>>729087283because this is what 4chan is especially post-2016
>>729082926Always do the exact opposite of what pcgamer tells you
>>729084419>public transit is going to go away because people can just drive carsI think you're underestimating that, even if AI reaches the point where people can make their own full games using AI, they still, themselves, need to actually be capable of using AI.People, even the retards on /v/, can barely use search engines to find basic shit and you're expecting them to use AI to make their own AAA games? Even the shitty still images most people are generating now are garbage because 99.99% of people are filtered by prompting and proper extension use. I'm sure Ranjeesh can figure out how to generate Nioh 2 when he can't even generate a picture well.
>>729087702Literally what happened with the Luddites. Just retards scared of new tech, and in the current age, virtue-signalling.
>>729087469Would you prefer DEI hand holding AI slop meant to be playable by actual retards, not offend anyone and therefore not enjoyable to anyone?
>>729082926It's time to start trusting journalists.
>>729087283Because Pajeets love AI and trannies hate AI. It's classic ad-hominem.
>>729087702I just ask AI to do it for me.
>>729087546But you are making things worse for ME as someone who wants to consume human-made content, you corporate cunt.
I was at a cafe earlier and the artwork on the wall was AI generated.I have nothing else to say, it was just interesting.
>>729088840Then seek out (shitty) human made content.The bitching shows that the development of AI will create a niche of faggots that think they are good people for seeking out human art.Of course, it's the same mentality as people who put flags over their Facebook profiles. So, they won't support it. Even though they could.In short, you're a faggot.
>>729088957Oh brother you haven't seen shit. I saw postcards that had AI generated art on them. At a fucking art gallery gift shop.Also as a bonus for you since we're such great buddies, at work we had a project meeting to see how everything was going and as we were going through everyones work, one cunt clearly kept asking chatgpt what to say and just copy pasting those to chat as suggested improvement. Keep in mind he could have just stayed quiet, which would have been preferable.
>>729082926>please hate AI please please no
>>729088692Except everyone is calling each other troons and pajeets regardless of their position. /v/ is now a transgender Indian board.
>>729089326Modern problems call for modern solutions.
>>729086853reality: 10.000 jeets using AI
>>729089147AI is too obvious to me, even when it's done well.
>>729088251I'd rather they not use this to distract from the actual problems
>>729086273>>729086301>>729086743>>729087283>>729087854+500 izzat!
>>729089326>and just copy pasting those to chat as suggested improvement.That's what makes it so great. We have people we work with that clearly use AI but at least draw upon maybe 10% of what the AI said and filters out all the clearly retarded and nonsensical shit. Then we have people that literally just copy paste AI shit and it instantly denotes them permanently as a retard that can't be relied on. Just by virtue of not being those people, it elevates everyone else.
>>729086634>This goes against the rules?Yeah? What are the rules? What is the enforcement? Who is enforcing it?>Also how does Steam detect AI-generatedIt doesn't. 100% of AI disclosures are a checkbox. Just don't click it.>>729088840You've been making things progressively worse for me by enabling all of this gay shit in the modern industry by being a faggy little paypiggy. I actively hope that things become not just worse for you, but completely intolerable.
>>729083409Yeah it's interesting to see how we never learn from history. I never expected to see this level of full-blown Luddism in my lifetime. We have so many historical examples of how fucking pointless it is to fight against the march of technology. It's such a simple concept too, why keep your bronze sword if you can have one made of iron, yet these retards think they can actually stem the tide ROFL.
>>729082926They're rightVidya sales are shit and we have flop after flop in the AAA sceneforcing AI during this time is the stupidest thing ever
>>729086731Yeah many causes are like this. They don't experience much pushback because people largely agree with them in principle. Yet they're so fucking annoying that eventually no one can stand their shit anymore and they just forget about it.
>>729082926>remain
>>729087546Exactly. Are they gonna devote themselves to improving the conditions in my own job? So why should I give a shit about theirs.
>>729089871I have DONE NOTHING TO YOU. Why do I deserve bad things? Why the FUCK is /v/ like this?You will LITERALLY ADVOCATE FOR ANYTHING if it pisses someone off.
>>729086882Gamers are already bootlickers, consoles make you pay for online, force you to create an account, etc etc. Meanwhile 95%+ of PC gaming is done on windows and people buy games from DRM stores like Steam, a bloatware which is worshipped on this board. You think that some of the most unlikeable people on Earth, artists and voice actors who spend their time on bluesky/twitter/tumblr is where gamers are going to draw the line?
>>729087702Lmao exactly. Plus it's not as if the level of average intelligence is going up. Most people can't even conceptualise what they want from a game, let alone create a masterpiece.
>>729082926"World's changing."
>>729082926It really is the second industrial age.Even got our own Luddites.Time really is a flat fucking circle.
>>729089147That's the funny thing to me. It's not as if human-made art will disappear. Everything we consume is mass-produced but you can fork out extra if you want something hand-made. It'll be the same with art, problem is that means most of the less skilled artists won't be desirable anymore.
>STOP USING PHOTOSHOP>THE ONLY REAL ART IS PAINT ON CANVAS
>>729091234To be fair modern photoshop does suck ass.The last good version was the 2020 one.
>open photoshopPLEASE SAAR GIVE ME ANIME TIDDIES CHILDWIFE>it does nothing>oh right>i have to still actually do something
>>729083750Unironically, local AI will be our only hope against Big Brother. It's the equivalent of using rifles against army tanks, but it will be all we'll have to defend ourselves. We're gonna need it
>>729091314>STOP USING GIMP
>>729082926Games are more shit than ever and now take longer than ever to make. I don't really expect AI to make the games any better honestly but it'll certainly speed things up from one release every 6-10 years hopefully. Just look at the state of GTA 6.
>>729091442I guess there's some entertainment in watching companies churn out dogshit games faster, just to have them all flop as well.
>>729086670Lmao kek even. That retard truly believes the average person isn't a brainless worm.
Have you ever tried working with an artist? I have. I WANT them to lose their jobs. They all deserve it.
>>729091709This is the only upside of AI.>Want to comission character design sheet for RPG.>Yea sure that'll be $300, ill get it done within 2 months, and it'll look like that faggot from the senran threads did it>What do you mean NO? DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD I SLEPT THROUGH COLLEGE TO GET HERE?
>>729087283Why does every discussion always degrade into everyone calling each other trannies and jeets?
Why is it such a huge issue to disclose AI usage, if everyone is gonna use it in the future?
>>729082926>>remainYeah this is why I can't really get bent out of shape over AI one way or another. Much of its use has seemed up to this point to be objectively heartless slop, but how is that much different from so much of the preceding 15 years of games that were made entirely by humans?Yes, talented devs can probably use it to great effect (RE Enhance looks very good imo), but they probably won't because my cynical expectations inform me that companies are chomping at the bit to use AI's existence to fire all the last talented devs left.So I'm just going to do like I have been doing for years already. Mainly play old games and be very honest when going over modern releases. Like many things we've enjoyed in the modern world, video games are just kind of over, but anyone can easily make the best of it instead of just seething online 24/7.
>>729092418Because anti-AI fags are annoying as fuck and can’t even tell unless you tell them so what’s the benefit in telling people except to cater to anti-AI fag’s insanity. If the game is lazy AI slop, a disclaimer isn’t necessary, you figure it out by just looking at it
>y-y-y-you cant t-t-t-tellsaar
>>729092676So tricking your customers is fine in this instance?
>>729092993then AI disclaimers aren’t necessary
>>729093020if i no trick them someone else tricking them saar
>>729093020Yes? It’s a bad system if only the ones who get punished are the honest ones
>>729093020How can you trick people when AI usage is obvious?
>>729093020It's not tricking as the vast majority don't even care.It's like not saying your coat uses real bear fur to avoid some retard in PETA throwing blood on your customers.
>AI can't make games interestingcan you?
>>729093181I'm pretty sure that's morally wrong and illegal.
>>729082926how can I call out these developers when I'm boycotting Meta and Twitter for their embracing of AI while companies don't care about what people on reddit and bluesky have to say?
>>729093127What's the punishment?
>>729093235in the context of AI usage in a game>morally wrongwhy should a company care>illegalno its not
>>729093274Scrutiny, it’s not wild punishment but if you don’t say anything most people don’t notice or care
>>729093406That's not a punishment. Most people won't notice or care about a disclaimer.
>>729093235I think it should be considered morally wrong and illegal to be a pretentious faggot, but it's not.
Instead of devs having to disclose AI usage on a storefront page, would it be better if games that could prove they didn't use AI during development would get some sort of AI free -stamp provided by the storefront owner like steam for example? I'm thinking of something like that Nintendo Seal of Quality -stamp games used to have.
>>729094050Maybe, I don't think many storefronts would be interested though. Certainly not as a long term practice. You're underestimating how little people care.
