AM4 MAXXERS WHERE YOU AT5800X3D master race
Do I need a 9800x3d or can I get by with a 7800x3d? I have a ryzen 5 7600x rn
>>729083530does anyone have any experience trying to get mixed ram kits working on AMDI know you're not supposed to do it but ram cost too much to be like I'm just gonna throw out 2x8 GB to get a 2x16 kit. But shit won't even post
>gaymd
>>729083881what's your GPU, if it's not a 4080 or 5080 or better there's not much point in upgrading a 7600 at all
>>729083881Most games are being made to utilize a 5600 tier cpu... at best. The better the cpu the slightly better chance you have at even better frames with an equivalent better gpu, but diminished.Even the 7600x is total overkill. Because consoles are using 2017 cpu tech essentially.
>>7290839967800xt
>>729083925That's more up to the memory controller on your mobo
>>729083530Where do you even find this fucking chip? Did it just magically manifest in front of you one day?
>>729084163memory controller is in the CPU SoC not chipset
Do you guys do anything with your CPU like undervolting it or do you just keep it default
>>7290841675700X3D was dirt cheap for a while
>>729083530You ain't an AM4 maxxer unless you can do a -30 undervolt on your 5800X3D
>>729083925Yeah i've been bitten by this too, one of my ram sticks is going bad and it is literally impossible to find an equal one( HyperX Predator 2933 )
Using a 5600g and works just fine desune
5600x chads rise up
>>729084167I got mine used, but it was a year ago. Now that ram prices are skyrocketing you wont be able to find a 5800X3D for cheap unless you get extremelly lucky. Everyone is holding on them until this madness passes
>>729084270I was planning to upgrade to AM5 and then the ram prices exploded. I guess I'm just a waitfag sucker lol>>729084460Yeah, checks out
>>729083881>Do I need a 9800x3d or can I get by with a 7800x3d?both of them are identical in gaming performance
>>729083881as long as you're not trying to push 500fps in 1080p you will see no performance difference.
>>729083964ur brown
>>729084163You are several decades wrong on that one. Do you need a welfare check or something?
>>729083925get into bios with one stick installedset the ram to extremely low settings (as in lowest MT for that class of DDR and lower-than-JEDEC timings) and up the voltage to the higher performance level, like 1.35V for DDR4increase the SoC voltage (like 1.05 or 1.1V for AM4)if it doesn't post with that give up, if it does test it for stability. If it's stable to you can start raising settings like normal RAM "tuning".
>>7290835303800xt still a monster cpu
At the beginning of this year, I upgraded from 3600 to 5700X3D and installed additional 16GB of RAM, up to 32GB, along with some PCIe 4 2TB SSD.In May I switched from RTX2070S to RX 9070XT
>>7290835305700x3d from AliExpress hereI think I managed to get this thing during its ATL
>>729084215My 5700X3D has been running at -25 for the past year without issues.
>>729084961it's probably not impossible that AMD will release a new AM4 chip during this RAM shitshow
>>729083530I'm more of an AM4 minimalist
I moved last year and didn't feel like carrying my old pc so got a new one with a 9800x3d, my last one still had a 2500k or some shit
>>729084442It just works
>>729085086these are worse than 3600s aren't they? And those cost like $40 on ebay
>>729083530I never thought another CPU could match the love I have for the i5 2500k, but the 5800X3D is getting there. Some of the best value I've ever gotten from a hardware upgrade considering I snagged a new one in summer 2023 for $280.
>>729084215Been running my 5800X3D at -30 offset for a couple years now. No issues. Heard ones manufactured later are not as lucky.
>got 32gb DDR4 ram in the summer for £40>it's £200 nowKek
It was out of my hands because my cpu died before its release but I really wish I could have gotten a 5800x3d instead of a 5800x. I don't really know if I'm being bottlenecked though (4080 super 1440p) but I would like some better performance on cpu bound games
>>729085181NoZen3 trounces Zen2
>>729085334AM4 X3D makes DDR5 redundant, that's the main difference.
I have a 5700X3D and it seems fine for my RTX4070I don't think I need to upgrade for a long time.
>>729085348having half the L3 of the 3600 means they're almost always within a few % of the performance of each other
i love my 7800X3D
>>729083530 i play paradox map sims all the time, so i upgraded to 9950x3d earlier this year really dodged the bullet with ram and other bs huh
Any 5900X bros here?
>>729085586No.Even a 5600 is consistently faster than a 3900X across the board.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-5600/
I've got a 5950X and it's been good enough for my needs.
>>7290835305700X3Di thought about getting an am5 board and cpu but lmaoramprices
>>729083530when I was upgrading from a lower end AM4 cpu, I went with the 5700X cause I didn't see the 5800X3D providing much of an improvement over it in benchmarks for 1440p back when it cost like 30% more. In hindsight maybe I should've just splurged for it cause now upgrading to AM5 is abysmally overpriced.
>>7290857735600 is not a 5500
>ryzen 5 1600
data collection thread
>>729083530stuck with a 2600x
semen collection thread
>>729086003But enough about your mom...
What are the odds that more manufacturers are going to make DDR4 and DDR5 compatible AM5 motherboards?
>>729086096she collects my semen all the time, correct
So when did it become necessary to have a big bitch powerhouse CPU anyways? I used to not invest that much in a strong CPU, but after experiencing so many modern open world games, I realized that I can't cheap out on the CPU anymore.
>>7290835305700x3d 64gb ddr4 GOD here. I will likely be moving my entire rig into a better case than the 60 dollar chinesium one i have it in after christmas. upgraded from a 3600 non x to play space marine 2 fixed literally everything.
>>729086149hot...
>>729086148ZeroOnly intel had a generation of chips with an IMC capable of addressing DDR4 and DDR5. Its now deprecated.
>>7290857375950X Here
>>729086159having too much CPU for a target FPS always feels better just for keeping super stable frametimes
>>729086165>chinesiumpics
>>729086159Contrary to what some delusional PCMRs say, consoles actually have decent CPUs this gen, so much that you can't just bruteforce locked 60 fps with a mid range CPU in any game, like Dragon's Dogma 2 or STALKER 2.PS4 and Xbone had unironic tablet CPUs.
>>729086165I too need to migrate my system to a new case, the old one is just stpid full after I bought a new cooler. Just got a new B550 mobo to replace B450.
3700x uncs RISE UP
>>729084167I bought it at launchFeels like it'll last forever
>>729085454Same here brotha. Twin setup. I'm planning to ride this until 2030.
>>729086754Some chips do that. People are still using i9's.
>>729084460It's more of China refusing to eat the tariff charge and pricing extra on top of that. The 5800x3d would be around $200 if it wasn't for that. Now it's about $500.
is a 5700x3d a considerable upgrade over 5600x? I missed the window for it a while back when it was in stock
>>729086159never? if your heaviest workload is gaming it's nothing but fomo
>>729083530I'm still LGA1155 maxxing
>>729086534Gaming was best around the PS3/360 era when computers could easily outclass consoles and developers were forced to optimize their games for very low spec hardware. If this console gen ends up lasting for a very long period of time, we could see the same situation come back which would be beneficial for gamers.
mother fuckers with threadrippers and 256GB of RAM really did future proof it
>>729086450aerocool hive. front panel is literally just ~1mm holes in plastic. good temps for the price at least.
Sitting on a 3600. I was planning on an update, but well now I dunno what the fuck to do.>buy a new gpu>the cpu will bottleneck it>can't buy new cpus because that mean a new motherboard and ddr5>upgrading to another am4 feels like it'd be a waste of money because i'd have to swap it again whenever the ddr5 prices go back down
>>729083530>doesn't have at least a 9950X3D
>>7290870407th gen PC ports often had low fov with no option to change that, forced mouse acceleration, lack of qol input features in general.8th gen in terms of PC ports was the best, until DX12. If you got a PC in 2012, it was enough to get through almost entire gen.
>>729084442>5600x>6700xt>32gb ramI am content with my 1080p rig until prices go back to normal or the entire industry burns down. Whichever comes first.
>>729087040I thought new consoles were launching in '27
>>729084270>price spike was right before I got one
>>729087237But who's actually gonna buy them. Devs are still releasing games on PS4.
>>729083530>3600
>>729087286Xbox is releasing a new console out of desperation to stay relevant one last time.Sony will release a console not let Xbox get upper hand.But it's going to be a disaster, until PS6 is essentially a PS5 in form of hybrid console.
>>729085862liquid cooling Kuro's face
>>729087508Cum is not very good for cooling
>>7290835305700x3d here, if i upgrade from a 4070 will my cpu be too outdated to handle the new gputhinking about getting a 5080 so i can game at 1440p and get more than 60 fps in modern games
>>729084110>7800xtYou could pair that with an i5-2500K and still not see a CPU bottleneck.
>>729083530i bought my 5800x when the 5800x3d was being rumored and i thuoght there wouldn't be a massive performance increase. still a great cpu though
>>729087701>if i upgrade from a 4070 will my cpu be too outdated to handle the new gpuno such thing
>>729087701Go for it. Worst case scenario you'll get a very minor bottleneckDONTWAIT
>>7290863135950x fag here as well. Kinda wish I had waited until the X3D chips were announced but it is what it is.
>>7290835307800x3d and 7800xt. Its alright. I just wish I had waited a little while and shelled out a hundred bucks extra for a 9070. Fuck AMD for giving up on FSR3.
Everything is so fucked
>>729087701The 5080 is about to increase 200% in price in like a week. Buy now or forever hold your peace.
>>729087907check 5700X3D
>>729087907I wish it was legal to cave these cunt's skulls in.Nobody would miss them anyway.
Amd9980x3d god here
>>729088035Price only meets the demand. You have nothing to cry about.
>>729088035Don't knock the hustle. Gotta make dat paper!
friendly reminder that x3d processors have lower single thread performance than their x counterparts
>>729083530best CPU made in the past 10 years
>>729088306The have only have a vary small clock speed deficit
>>729083881Keep the 7600x nigger.
>>729084442>build my current PC with a 5600X in 2021 with the expectation i would be getting a new one in 2026>fast forward to watching the death of own-able PC's best be reapplying that thermal paste boy.
>>729087996For only $23.99 plus tip, you could be the proud owner of a 5700x3d box and heatsink
>>729088391that $600 bundle seems decent
>>729088306Irrelevant for gaming and the difference is <5%.
>>729085952the steam hardware survey results are free, cover a much more useful sample size, and are much more detailed schizo-san
>>729088367>>729088542copium
>>729087130>>upgrading to another am4 feels like it'd be a waste of money because i'd have to swap it again whenever the ddr5 prices go back downthe better AM4 cpu's have also risen in price anyway since people are trying to AVOID having to use DDR5 now anyway so it would be pointless.
>>7290857375900X owner here. It's a nice balance between gaming and multitasking. Undervolting took a while to get perfectly stable but it has been rock solid ever since. Wish I had gone with 64GB instead of 32GB when I built this system though.
>>729087784Faggot, I was CPU bottlenecked on 2500k @4.4GHz with GTX970.
>>729088627>whenever the ddr5 prices go back downyeah, in 2042
>>7290887902500K is NEVER OBSOLETEt. paired a 2500K with a 4090, works perfectly at 1440p.
>>729087907i didnt realize i paid over msrp for a used one dang. i thought these were $6-700 cpus. i am become goycattle
>>729088627Yeah.I can still run shit at least.
>>729088857i never said they would.they won't by design and at best most people won't own PC's in another 20 years.
I've been using a 5600x for a few years now and I feels it's completely adequate. I don't think I'm bottlenecked by my cpu. I might upgrade if I could find some smoking hot deal on a Ryzen 7 that's better than it.
>3% increase in performance if I go from 5600 to 5600x>7% increase in performance if I go to 5600x3DUnsure if worth it, maybe for a deal that's too good to refuse
>>729089092it isnt.
>>729086534You can't bruteforce awful programing that's why DD2 and STALKER2 will run like shit no matter the hardware.You can add MGS Delta to that list.
I'll be fine with a 7600X
I have a R9 7900X3D with a 4070ti Super.I am fine with my 1440p.
>>729083530>Upgrade from 5600 to 7800X3D>Moded RimWorld finally runs smoothly at x4 speedIt's worth it bros.
Yerp.
>>729089850turn on xmp dingus
>>729089474>You can't bruteforce awful programingPeople now fondly remember Arkham Knight PC port.Stutters are hardly fixable by bruteforce, but the problem with those games are not stutters, these are simply unreasonably demanding on CPU. With enough power they will run smoothly eventually. >You can add MGS Delta to that list.It was actually extremely smooth on my 5700X3D.
>>729089915I've been meaning to do that but can't muster up the energy to go into BIOS.
>Ryzen 7700XNo one seems to like this cpu. Am I the only one who has this shitpiece?
>>729089967nigga, just restart the PC now and smash that F12 button or whatever
>>729089979it's fine, it just cost too much at launch to not be any better for gaming than a 7600
>>729089967>gives up a free 25-50% performance boost>all because you cannot hit F1/F2/F12/Del
5700X here, just upgraded. Am I allowed in the big boys club, even though I can't vote?
>>729090023>>729090121Yerp.
>>729088306>>729088590>m-m-MUH SINGLE THREADEDname 1 (one) video game that only uses a single CPU thread where performance matters
my 5600x and rx6800 are 5 years old and i still have zero reasons to upgrade. video games went to shit.
Bird up
>>729083881the problem with AM5 isnt the CPU its whatever you can find DDR5 RAM to put on your AM5 motherboard
>>729089967retard
>>729090652TF2, especially after all the bloat added over the years.
>>729090732I changed motherboards recently and forgot to enable XMP, where it apparently wasn't enabled by default.
>>729090754anon...
>>729090780>Why is overclock not enabled by defaultkek
>>729091112I vaguely recalled not having to touch XMP settings on my previous motherboard but I may have misremembered. A PCI-E wifi/Bluetooth card was causing some kind of short and taking my whole motherboard hostage so I was forced to replace it, long story short I have a dead wifi card and two working motherboards now but one is B550 and not B450. Probably missed the XMP setup in all the haste and confusion to get shit working again, using a Steam Deck as a backup computer wasn't a very fun time.
>>729083925It really doesn't matter. I'm running 3 sticks with Samsung chips and 1 stick with Micron chips and they both use the exact same XMP and are extremely stable, no crashes to date.
>>729085243I bought it in 2023 as well from Amazon with the 200 dollar bonus I got for opening a prime visa card. It cost me ~86 bucks. Best value in gaming.
>>729091236XMP/EXPO is never enabled by default that's why it's so common for people to run JEDEC spec.
>>729090652all of them, you fucking ignoramus
the rtx 50 series will be nvidias last consumer gpu line
>>729083530added an extra 16gb Ram for just $20 just the other month5800x3D was a godsend feelsgood.jpeg
>>729091695It won't but they will stop making low end GPUs at some point for sure.
>>729091793They'll never stop making low end GPUs simply based on the nature of how they're made, retard. There will always be defective dies while trying to manufacture high end chips that they can only sell as lower-end GPUs after disabling borked sections.
>>729091965They already completely killed off true entry level GPUs you fucking dunce
>>729083530have a 5700x myselfrest of specs506032 gigs 2tb nvme>>729087784i was getting problems with a 3470 and a 1070 back in the day(2019-20)>>729091695wont be surprised if they delay rtx 6000 series to 2028(next xbox and ps as well doesnt really need to be released in q4 27 imo)
>>729091793I'd expect it to be high-end GPUs that die out from Nvidia making them deliberately unavailable, only selling them to Saudi princes and AI tech-bros that own datacenters
>>729091965Based retard.5090 is the only consumer GPU using GB202, low end garbage like 5060 uses GB206 which is completely different, it's not just bigger chip with some parts fused off.
>>729092118The 5050 is right there. And the pricing is what it is because people are willing to pay for it and even lower end GPUs don't make sense anymore due to IPUs having equal or better integrated graphics.
>>729092134High end products have better profit margin than low end cards. It will simply mean that top-end products get even more expensive with each generation.6090 will start at $3499 before scalper Tax.
>>729090652single core performance is literally always dominant in games if you even have just a 4 core 8 thread CPU - the only reason it doesn't seem like that is that Intel always choked the shit out of cache for lower end CPUs. Games just don't parallelize like rendering type tasks do
>want a 5800X3D >not in stock anywhere>just as expensive as they were three years ago, if not moreAMD fucking sucks
>>729092267The 5060 ti, which uses the full GB206 die is considered a mid-range card by Nvidia. The base 5060, if you consider it low-end, uses uses that GPU with some parts fused off, retard. As long as they continue to make mid-range cards, they will have defective dies to turn into low-end cards.
>>729092623>a discontinued CPU is not in stock970 is out of stock as well
>>729083530grabbed a 5700X on alibaba just a few months ago for 90 bucks, i'm good.wasn't in the market for upgrading when the X3D one was cheap, wcyd
>>729092485How long do we think the high-end profit margins are going to hold when nobody's buying them, smartphone industries are already whining that people are keeping on with their current models instead of buying the newest
>>729092623whatthey were discontinued last yeari would say pull the trigger and rebuild, but the prices are retarded so let this be a lesson for all waitfags
>>729092623at a certain point you were supposed to get a platform upgrade and a 7600 instead which performs about the same. DDR5 and a cheap motherboard would have gotten you on AM5. It's only now that the desperation is really on for people with AM4 not to have to sacrifice their firstborn for new RAM.
>>729092747Exactly my point, retard. There is no reason to discontinue the product when it's still the best option by far.
>gaming PC>brownser the chans all day
>>729090678What's the latest AAA you played on that rig?
I don't turn XMP on because I'm keeping it real2600Mhz gang, where we at?
>>729092896You had more than enough time to upgrade to AM5, you should have known you were going to get fucked eventually if you're still on AM4. You only have yourself to blame for waitfagging and now if you want to upgrade you have to pay $500 for RAM
>>729092835My 2021 phone had 12GB of RAM, fast forward to 2025 and 12GB is still a standard for mid-high end, with 16GB being exclusive to absolute top tier flagships, and now they're being forced to scale down.I still bought a new phone earlier this month, as I wanted better camera and I knew that RAM shortage will fuck shit up.
>>729083530>AM4 MAXXERS WHERE YOU ATI'm at the 5600x and I'm probably stuck here now that the x3d chips are more expensive than they really should be, because no one can afford to upgrade to AM5. I still run every game, and squeezed out an extra 20 or so fps with an overclock so I'm probably fine for a few years anyway. But still.
>>729092939I also run local AI models for erp gooning
>>729092885Desperation for what exactly? I was hoping shit like DD2 and MHW would finally wake people up and stop pointless upgrading, but now I see endless FUD over being "trapped" because you didn't platform upgrade. Hardware 5 years old is, at most, 20% slower.
>>729085920i had a 2700x so i bought a 5800xt. I put it in but my shitty dell motherboard doesn't have an update to recognize it so the computer just ran with a black screen until it turned off on its own (i didnt put the cooler on to test) so maybe it overheated? I dont know. So now i have a new motherboard coming. i dont know what im doing
>>729093271sure, personally I'm in the same boat. I'm just now getting to 5 year old backlog and PS3/Switch emulation. But i'm just saying I see why shit like the 5700x3d went from cheap to insane for other people.
>>729092835The difference is nGreedia has alternative source of income.
We're closer than ever to APUs being the future of PC gaming.
>>729093531It needed a bios update to recognize the chip that was newer than the motherboard. A knowledgeable person probably could have updated the bios for free but it's probably worth it not to be on dellshit anyway
>>729093616I don't see why really, all consumer stuff will be way too expensive until the economy has digested AI completely which might be a decade from now. There is no reason to make anything for consumers anymore when business to business profits are so high
>>729093271I was planning on not cheapening out and building new PC with hopefully 9800X3D through the entire 2024, and after seeing just how DD2 and STALKER 2 perform on 7800X3D, by the end of the year, I decided that it's not worth it, I'll upgrade to 5700X3D instead.
>>729093531>black screen until it turned off on its own (i didnt put the cooler on to test) so maybe it overheatedyou dunce, most motherboards will not post with the cpu cooler fan not plugged in to prevent it from cooking itself. if having it plugged in doesn't work, update the BIOS of the mobo to the most recent one as support for newer Zen architectures is sometimes only available with an updated BIOS.
>>729092896>Exactly my point, retard. There is no reason to discontinue the product when it's still the best option by far.This is like expecting Mazda to continue manufacturing the previous generation Miata even though they've moved onto a new generation, just because you didn't get the old one yet.
got thisdid i do gud?
>>729093725Nvidia no longer wants to provide memory for the GPUs.Might as well provide unified memory for CPU and GPU in one standard, like on consoles
>>729092939i brown 4chan while playing vidya and watching some 10 hours long video essay on youtube at the same time
>>729083530>3600xI don't feel so goodgo on without me...
>>729093932It's not like they were making the memory. They bought it from GDDR5 manufacturers, who also don't want to bother supplying consumers with their production when they can sell it at like 10x higher margins to datacenter business.
>>729093531Most OEM AMD systems are stuck on that generation because the manufacturer doesn't provide a bios update to allow the next gen CPUs to work anyway. My parents HP is like that. I had to get a Ryzen 5 2600 and an R7 430 to update their PC to Win11 because the motherboard can't be updated to support a 3200g. OEM AMD systems are just as cucked as Intel.
How's the 5800XT and 5900XT? Worth buying if I still have a 3700X? Microcenter has them in stock and I don't know if it's worth it right now for a full system upgrade.
>>729094104they usually have the bios update available somewhere but it's always a bigger pain with way way worse documentation than direct to customer boards
