I know people that worked on this. ama
My dad works at Nintendo too.
why did they choose such yonic imagery?
I don't have any questions, but if you could let them know that they're fags next time you talk, I'd be much obliged
>>729083973what were they thinking?
>>729083973Did they fail upwards?
I feel bad for the devs more on the engine/coding side of things, the game runs damn well and is the only major 120 FPS game right now on Switch 2.
>>729084258Yeah, this at least guarantees some of them will still have a job
>>729083973Whos idea was to put a dessert in the middle of all the maps?
>>729084258The people actually building the game are obviously incredibly talented. Everyone whose job it was to make it interesting failed miserably.
>>729083973My working theory is that MP4 was so troubled because there was a lot of back-and-forth tugging between Tanabe and Retro. Is that true? It feels like two quarter-games glued together.
>>729084754The game suffers from a death of a thousand cuts. Nothing is bad enought to break the enjoyment but the annoyances pile up.
>>729084621Tanabe. The desert was his big idea for the game from the start despite neither the original Dev team or Retro being able to realize it. The engine used to develop the prime games was made for small rooms only, so Sol Valley represented a huge technical hurdle from the very start of development right up until the end. Tanabe refused to let go of it because it was the game's defining feature. >>729085002Nope, Tanabe always got his way even when it was ill advised. >>729084248The studio will stay open, but only because Nintendo corporate being impressed with the visual and technical prowess of the game. They think Retro will continue to be a valuable asset, Metroid or no.
>>729083973What do they eat?
>>729083973What Pokemon would you fuck
>>729085337If Tanabe always got his way why is Sylux such a footnote. Was Retro not planning to use him at all?
>>729085337So Beyond is shit for the exact reason Other M was shit- zero oversight of the producer. What’s the likelihood Nintendo wrangles this tard? Sakamoto eventually snapped out of it after all.
>>729083973WHAT WERE THEY THIIIIINKING?!
>>729083973Do you know the person who made the Grievers "song" that plays when they attack? That was an annoying desicion, I get the idea of sounding like the screams of the dammed but after hearing it again and again interrupting the music I just turn the volume of my game to zero.
>>729084621>dessert
They should be ashamed for their words and deeds.
>>729085768NTA but it's very obvious Sylux is supposed to appear in future entries too
>>729085768Whenever Retro asked questions about the nature of his role the order from up to was "not to worry about it" and "keep it simple." Gameplay wise, Sylux was meant to be a more active presence in the world that impeded Samus's progress more often, but the game underwent a final review this year that lead to most of these sequences being cut for pacing. >>729085807Unlikely, since this was Tanabe's last game as producer. He considers this his swan song for the company. Rise Tabata is set to take over the producer role for Metroid Prime going forward, if there is another game.>>729085925Most of the composers were not stateside. Sound designers and composers were on different ends of the continent which lead to them not being on the same wavelengths on things like this.
>>729083973Why are these new characters called "Marvel" characters when they are clearly DEI characters? They literally fit all the stereotypical roles. The good, strong, black, loving family man. The annoying, smart white person who won't shut up. And the strong, empowered female who can handle everything on her own. Anyone with a pulse can see that these characters are only there to fill the woke DEI quota. And yet, for whatever reason, normies pretend this is Marvel's fault lol
>>729085768The Metroids being an even smaller footnote is worse, literally just amounts to some bosses having green weak points because of some random new psychic control ability the opening crawl drops. I can't believe this is what was imagined as what they'd have the Federation Force stinger lead into.
>>729086193Much of what we understand as modern DEI came straight from Marvel movies so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. At any rate I can confirm Tanabe was inspired directly by Avengers when cooking up those characters and referenced those movies a lot in production, up until the very end.
>>729086086I agree, the only question in my mind is if the troopers die or become turncoats for survival and 'emotional impact' in a sequel.
>>729086193>The good, strong, black, loving family manAnthony Higgs?>The annoying, smart white person who won't shut upAdam Malkovich?>And the strong, empowered female who can handle everything on her ownSamus Aran?
What's the plan for Prime 5?
>>729085337Okay, i'll bite. Did you ask them why in the world did they think making such simple areas that look and feel like straight corridors was a good idea? Specially after Zelda finally broke away from handholding the player in BotW.I honestly think that's the biggest flaw of the game and what truly makes it a disappointment. The rest of the problems and flaws are related in some way to this. And I didn't even dislike the desert itself.
>>729086285The Metroids were one of the biggest points of contention in development. Retro constantly asked questions on the nature of their reappearance was and what their role was supposed to be in this title, since it had at least become tradition on their end to make their appearance significant. Nintendo was so careless in this regard that they got some factoids about their lore and appearance wrong. They couldn't answer questions as simple as whether they were supposed to be clones or not.
>>729086432Huh. I got excited about the Metroids being actually mochtroids because of their appearance, but that was never brought up again. This is odd. Metroid Dread had more interesting story and lore than Metroid Prime 4 of all things.
>>729086298>Marvel invented DEI and forced it into video gamesAre you retarded, by any chance?
I think the motorcycle and Sylux are cool concepts so give Tanabe a high five for the only good ideas in the game even if his bad ideas got in too
>>729086382Prime 5 introduces Trace and the Kriken. Sylux was trying to stop him by gathering an army of Space Pirates, Metroids, and the Lamorn artifacts from Prime 4.
>>729086382It began preproduction once Metroid Prime 4 went gold, but low sales could lead to a pivot. I don't have any information other than that. >>729086390The intent behind the simplistic areas was that they'd serve as a contrast to sol valley which was conceived as a larger, multilayered, mazelipe map akin to TOTK's hyrule. The problem was that neither dev team was actually able to realize this vision within the constraints of the Metroid engine, and a revamp of the engine would have pushed the release date out a few more years. Something NoJ wasn't comfortable with considering it's already one of the most expensive games they've ever made through sheer time in the oven.
>>729086192That would explain all the more open rooms that feel like there would be a boss fight but have nothing in them. Not gonna lie I liked the two fake sylux fights but more of them and it would have been boring. Hunters at least had 5 different guys yo break the monotony.
>>729086567The motorcycle was actually Retro's idea, as a compromise when Tanabe refused to cut the desert. He originally wanted Samus to cross the region on foot. >>729086542Retro actually brought this up mid development, but their appearance is simply an oversight by NOJ who handled a lot of the cinematics.
>>729086709>He originally wanted Samus to cross the region on footDoes he enjoy the suffering of others?
>>729086192Sure, it’s rumored Tanabe is retiring, and good riddance. Risa Tabata seems promising. What’s the likelihood she’s just Tanabe 2 tho?
>>729083973Can you tell them I hated the game? Cheers
>>729083973Who came up with the green crystal hunt?
>>729086193Because nintendo is a based company so a game from them can‘t possibly be woke. These are the same people that defended link crossdressing and blushing like a faggot, mind you.
>>729086779Have you seen the last 3 Paper Mario games?
>>729086903this
>>729083973why are you gay?
>>729086390The game really feels like "Lets do Zelda" but not knowing why Zeldad did the things it did.
>>729086608>The intent behind the simplistic areas was that they'd serve as a contrast to sol valley which was conceived as a larger, multilayered, mazelipe map akin to TOTK's hyrule. The problem was that neither dev team was actually able to realize this vision within the constraints of the Metroid engine, and a revamp of the engine would have pushed the release date out a few more years.Sounds like bullshit. If they realized they could not make an intrincate overworld, that realization must have come ages ago, and the game would have not been made. Or if they really needed to deliver, they would have kept the simple overworld as it currently is and made the separate areas more complex, which would have been a completely feasible kind of pivot, instead of the absolutely vapid dungeons we got.I'm not saying that you're lying about your contacts. But if that's the excuse they gave you, it's clearly not the truth.
>>729086709>NOJ who handled a lot of the cinematics.Im pretty sure the cinematics were famously handled by ex Naughty Dog devs, which is why they look quite nice.
>>729087256this entire thread is a LARP anon. we’re all still coping with the fact nintendo beefed what should have been an easy slam dunk
>>729083973whose decision was it to avoid humanoids that can walk on the ground as enemies? Prime 1 has lots of space pirates (?) that are just walking shooting guys like any other FPS. I don't know how prevalent they are in Prime 2 or 3. but it stood out to me in everything I've seen from Prime 4 that NO such enemy seems to exist when in Prime 1 they were common. why do all the humanoids FLY? why do none of the ground-based characters SHOOT? the only ground-based character I saw shooting at the player was some sand creature in the desert and it walked on all fours and the shots were like a slow grenade launcher (organic sludge of some kind). it really seems like not one enemy in the whole game is just a guy with a gun who can walk. anyone who can shoot directly at you has to hover in the air at all times. why??
>>729087393I figureso much. But i'm still in shock with the game and I have so many questions that i'd love to ask the devs that i fantasize with the faintest chance at an explanation i get.
So, were all the bad decisions Tanabe's fault?
>>729086608Reading all this it just sounds like a general lack of direction and terrible development cycle in general. None of the ideas they focused on worked, and everything else is vague because they just focused on stupid shit like the desert with no cohesive vision.
>>729084559>programmers>being recognized over VAs, directors and writersgood one anon
>>729087628same desu desu, I’m past the acceptance stage and just want a post-mortem. Knowing how secretive Nintendo is, it’s gonna be like a decade before we learn anything substantial
>>729086868She's worked with retro on every title they've released thus far. I wouldn't expect a major shakeup here personally, but I've had it expressed to me she wouldn't sink the game over a doomed feature. >>729087256Part of this is negligence on Nintendo's part. Tanabe wanted to force the feature through regardless because he saw it as this game's differentiating feature. Nintendo left him to his own devices until early this year when the game still wasn't in shape and they put the hammer down. By that point it was too late to feasibly cut it. There was also supposed to be more connective tissue between areas at one point, but Tanabe shut that down because it would de-emphasize Sol Valley as the player hub.
>>729087742>VAs, directors and writersbarely useful for nintendo let's be real
>>729087475The pirates show up at the very start of the game but after that the main enemies are this flying androids that shoot you from afar, robot turrets and this aliens that claw at you.
>>729087178I remember someone modding Prime 1 to be more fast paced like the 2D Metroids and it ended up looking like Quake.
>>729087815If Nintendo does layoffs we may know sooner than before then.Not entirely unprecedented, NST got layoffs after they were converted into a support studio following the Project Hammer debacle.
>>729088028Some of the robot drones look straight out of Halo, mainly the Forerunner Sentinels.
>>729087973Of the three voice dialogue heavy games Nintnedo has made (Zelda, DK, Metroid) this had the best voice acting. The others have weird voice direction.
>>729087851>There was also supposed to be more connective tissue between areas at one point, but Tanabe shut that down because it would de-emphasize Sol Valley as the player hub.More connective tissue? There's no connective tissue at all to begin with. They're separate areas. I still don't buy this larp. The problem is not within Sol-Valley. Sol-Valley is barely a problem within the game's general structure. The problem is that the areas are notably simpler and smaller than in previous games, and connective tissue wouldn't have been needed to make them more complex. I'm all about the separate dungeons things if done right, because it worked for Zelda games. The problem is that these dungeons play themselves as they are.The problem is that the areas are notably simpler and smaller than in previous games. More connective tissue? There's no connective tissue at all to improve. Making them more complex should have been a given if
>>729087475The enemy variety in Prime 4 is just plain shit.You got the maintenance bots, the main battle bots, Greivers, and a small handful of bug enemies in the early areas before the bots and Greivers show up.Primes 1-3 had much more enemy variety, and its made worse that Prime 4 is far more combat focused.
>>729088117>Prime 1 to be more fast pacedLink? I want to see it.
>>729088278you're comparing japanese titles with an american-made game. Often, in localization, the english VA's get zero vocal direction.
What ever happened to the time travel plot? I heard the green crystals were suppose to be fossilized Phazon.
>>729088516that was just a fan theory/fake leak
>>729088301Echoes had plenty of “recycled” enemy types but it was at least justified in-universe as Darklings, and they would often have unique behaviors because they were Ing. Corruption just genuinely has a shit ton of unique enemies. I was so fucking mad when it dawned on me just how little enemy variety Beyond really has.
The only two places i enjoyed were Volt Forge and Ice Belt and that's because soldier interaction is most minimal as this franchise shines best when you are playing in solitude. But even then, i hated all the elevators in Volt Forge and the linear map and in Ice Belt and so forth. Gah.. they completely missed the mark with this game while putting a good nail in place ready to be hit so what the fuck were they thinking.
>>729088530I hear fake leaks are very popular to catch those who break NDA to journos now. Has anyone been fired for leaking NDA yet?
>>729088560For me I realized there was something very wrong when I was somewhere around 3 hours into Prime 4 and realized I had around 50% of my logbook complete.
>>729088560Even if you cut out the dark variants Echoes would still run circles around Beyond in terms of enemy variety.
>>729088028Pirates being absent pissed me off, their logs are one of my favorite things about Prime 1-3.
>>729088781The lack of pirates, and by extension their scans is probably a factor on top of the already piss poor enemy variety.
>>729083973How bad did the story go through revisions since cut dialogue has been found:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXkXBIabO04Why did a Metroid Prime game need 3 shit writers?
>>729088946Scans also sucked because they did haven't have the marking for if it's a fluff scan or not when fucking Prime 1 has it.
>>729088868>>729088946What’s with the lack of Pirates in Metroid recently? Dread had none either except for Kraid.
I know. ama
>>729088516Weird that there is a plot about an asteroid that brought venom but Phazon is nowere to be seen. Speaking of I find funny you get a big hologram of all the key guardians you fight but the last is a completely different creature the Omega Griever probably killed before you got there.
>>729089020>41 minutes Jesus fucking Christ. What we got is bad enough.
>>729089046By Dread they're already been dead for years. They basically stop existing as a threat between Super and Other M.
>>729088781Can someone explain why this is so common in modern games?>Old ratchet and clanks had unique enemies for each level>New one has like 5 pirates and thats it.>Vermintide 2 has skaven, chaos and beastmen>Darktide has just chaos
>>729089180I miss my reptilian crab homies so much.
>>729089104With the destruction of Phaaze Phazon died out after 3.
>>7290885604 had some good enemies loke the plants that shoot a ball you need to return to them but only show up like once.
>>729083973Did they know it was a dead man walking for years, months, weeks, or did they not realize at all?
>>729089305i guess it must have to do with everything taking a lot more time to develop because everything must be a lot more detailed. I dont know if thats true though.
>>729088946This! There were very little actual log scans and the rest of the scannable objects have very little flavor text.
>>729089046Dread wanted to focus on Raven Beak. I don't give a shit if they skip 2D games though, their scans in Prime are what make them fun.God, 20 years of hype for Sylux and he was immediately memory holed where as Raven Beak was memed for months.
>>729086571>makes Feddies and Pirates piss and shit their pants in fearKino.
The game is good, but it's not for (you)
The game was good thoughbeitWhere Prime 5?
>>729088560>I was so fucking mad when it dawned on me just how little enemy variety Beyond really has.Yeah, felt the same. When i got to the ice belt and saw the wheel robot designs again, after seeing them in the volt forge and also being featured in the trailer, I realized that's what we were getting in the game. Im not sure what the fuck happened but theres a lot of aspects in the game that feel abruptly scarce. Theres no visors, the psychic powers are just old power ups from older games with a lame twist and the areas dont go beyond a few corridors.
>>729089180I mean Prime 3 and 4 both states that the pirates are made of multiple species with many bases, no reason to assume they're gone forever. It's just Fusion and Dread focused on X-Parasites/evil Chozo armor users.
>>729089974soon
>>729089020There were far, far more interruptions from the crew in the original script. In addition, every member of the crew had a side quest that lead to a pick-up, but almost every single one was a joke quest so all but one were cut. As bad as the game's tone was percieved in the lead up to release originally it was a lot worse. What you got in the final release was the bare minimum needed to ensure hiring those actors and doing that mocap didn't strictly go to waste. >>729089579Within the studio, the team was surprised how positive reception for the game was and expected it to go over a lot worse.
>>729089834>their scans in Prime are what make them funI like them too. It caters to a different type of immersive autism than the 2D Metroids.
>>7290899742029. The year Mankind Divided is set.
>>729090024The pivot to emphasis on psychic powers was decided when the marketing team realized Sol Valley wasn't going to work as a hook and the storyline wasn't coming together.
>>729089960Then it isn’t good.
>>729083973Any word on if a dread sequel is being worked on?
>>729090189I bet they release Prime 5 in late 2027 or 2028
OP is certainly larping but I was weirdly pissed that the Sergant acknowledged Samus collecting an energy tank.I always saw the energy tank and ammo expansions as non-digetic. Samus having them or not doesn't affect the plot so I always treated them being reset and found in random vents and shit purely as a gameplay thing.
>>729089834>>729090129I was surprised at how boring i found the scans to be. Took me a while to realize the scans in prime games were fun mainly because of the pirate's point of view. I dont understand how could we not have had an extensive amount of scans that allowed us to get to know sylux a lot better. It would have been kino to read him reeeeing about samus and the feds. Poor guy. At least the few minutes he got were good. I honestly like him and want more Sylux.
>>729090253Last I heard it was planned to be released next year. That in itself was over a year ago though. Not sure if anything's changed since then.
>>729090253OP wouldn't know even if they're legit. Sakamoto is in charge of 2D and his only communication with the Prime team is emailing Tanabe to kill ideas he doesn't like. Thus why he just gets credit as "Special Thanks".
>>729084258>the game runs damn wellNigga it looks like a gamecube game that got upscaled. It would be even more insulting if it was running 30 fps
>>729090206I still dont buy your larp. The idea of a sort of huge open air BotW metroid could work, and nintendo has expertise on it. If thats what they were going for, nintendo has devs to spare.
>>729083973Ask them why did they think shit was acceptable? Not even snoy-films put loading screens after a squeeze "transition stage".
>>729090253Mercury steam is on thin ice as far as i know. I hope they're doing it because its the only thing theyve had going for themselves.
>>729090756this isn't even the worst one, it takes 3 loading screens to get to the Ice Mountain - 1st a brief transition from the desert area to a hallway, 2nd an elevator ride, then 3rd a tram ride.Why wasn't the tram part just built into the elevator?
why the fuck is the desert emptier than the desert in botw
>>729090692They didn't have developers to spare for this particular title. Again, Retro is technically still working off of the engine they've been using since the GCN era. It's received upgrades since then obviously but a lot of the old bottlenecks still exists. Even if they allocated additional developers to it (which they did) those developers would be constrained by the engine. >>729090756See above.
>>729083973What's Nintendo's endgame by pozzing all their shit up for westoids? Do they really think it's sustainable long-term?
>>729090756Eh. I didnt mind these. Btw, i played the game on NSW1 and it looks incredible in motion. I was afraid of missing the SW2 improvements, but it looks seriously great. It looks way above what youd expect in the hardware.
>>729090581There's a more concentrated effort for the Metroid brand to move as a unit, so more people were in the know that a new 2D Metroid is coming than what would have been the case before. There was a road map that included a Dread sequel and Metroid Prime 5 for the Switch 2 shared internally.
>>729090937why didn't they just switch to unrealnamco 100% used unreal for their attempt, why the fuck would retro go back to a 20-year old pos?
>>729091012NOA was given more control of the content in games starting in 2020. Not everyone on the Japanese side is happy with the shift, but it works more often than it doesn't. >>729091105Part of the reason Retro recieved the project to begin with was that Nintendo was genuinely floored with the work Retro did on Prime Remastered and wanted a new title with the same visual fidelity. That necessitated using their old engine that they understood the best.
>>729083973Were any concepts from Bamco Singapore’s build of Prime 4 utilized by Retro?
>>729090937And im telling you that if the engine is the problem in order to make the game they want, then nintendo would have used a different engine. Its been years, and MP4 started development long after BotW was finished. This doesnt add up. Its not how nintendo makes their games. Nintendo only greenlights ideas when theres a working demo of the main concept that works and is fun. If such demo cant be produced, nintendo is not interested. This is what every dev that has collaborated with nintendo agrees on. Rockstar devs specifically say that they once showed miyamoto a thick ass dossier with a game idea and the guy was like fuck ima read all that, give me a demo.
>>729083973You know they track this shit and you're only gonna fuck your friend for this
>>729091458The "working demo" for MP4 was MP Remastered.
I hope we get Prime 2 remastered next instead of Prime 5. I want to see how the limited raytracing works in Dark World first. Also Prime 2 Remastered would be a good opportunity to upgrade the engine for Switch 2. Or at least use the current engine while building the new engine for Prime 5.
>>729091661Prime 2 on its own won't sell enough to justify it (sadly)
why is prime 4 samus so ugly
>>729083973Is my GoaT in Prime 5?
>>729092015Are you a fag by any chance?
>>729092015>why is prime 2/3 samus so uglyFTFY
>>729092114He might be a partialist. So yeah.
if Tanabe really is retiring and fucking off, the next one might actually be good. See you in another ten years.
>>729092343>Tanabe retires >somehow ruins his retirement
>>729083973While I applaud the team for getting a mechanically sound game up and running and out the door, what the hell happened creatively? The design philosophy of the game feels so basic and low-effort and it all comes off as kind of dull. I only got the second master teleporter key and I just don't give a fuck to continue
>>729092343you mean another 18 years
>>729092383>ruins it>some how goes upwards
Tanabe is obviously Yakuza.
>>729083973How long ago did the soundtrack by Yamamoto and Hamano get finished? Is there any info if they used real vocal recordings instead of synth?
>>729092187Prime 3 Samus looks good. Prime 1 is ugly but understandable, 2 is ugly but you see that they are trying, 3 is them figuring out how to do the Samus everyone knows, Remastered is them unlearning it, and 4 is just a generic sad potato.
>>729092015Brawl did irrepairable damage to Samus' design
I know people who DIED at that shit!
>>729092010It won't now that Prime 4 bombed critically. I still want it.
>>729092010Idea: Rehaul the multiplayer and make it some sort of hybrid of Halo 1 and Hunters multiplayer Playable characters: Samus, Dark Samus, Sylux, Federation Trooper, Demolition Trooper, Zebesians, Pirate Trooper, Trooper Pirate Mk.II.
>>729092015I think her face in Prime 4 is a great interpretation of what her face in Other M would look like with realistic facial features
>>729092010They should do it anyway to remind people what an actual good Metroid game looks like.
>>729092912>tsurime>taremeno
>>729092628>Prime 3 Samus looks good.Maybe if you like coked up bitches
>>729090219It's good, it just isn't for you
>/v/ doesn’t like Samus’s face in Beyond>the literal only good part of the game>vastly better than her retarded generic anime blonde portrayals from the first threeMaybe the key to a good Metroid game is to make her ugly as fuck, actually. She’s a butterface in the first two Primes and they’re pure kino. Dread is good because it never shows her face at all.
>>729092015Prime 1 Remake is the ugliest. Prime 4 Samus is cute, it's the only thing that dogshit game got right.
>>729093061It’s kusoge. The ‘people’ who like it shouldn’t be treated as human.
>>729090253MS is probably in deep shit thanks to releasing an EGS-exclusive game like a bunch of retards and selling no-joke like 80 copies, imho.>>729083973Probably just roleplaying, but:1. Do you know the final budget that the game cost in the end?2. Do you know the sales figures?3. How's the morale at Retro?
>>729091458>Nintendo only greenlights ideas when theres a working demo of the main concept that works >and is funthen they would never release BOTW
>>729083973What gameplay, story, or character elements were kept from the original Namco attempt at the game? Was there any worry within the studio about the excessive presence of NPCs and increased level of guidance?
>other Metroid thread hits bump limit due to shitposters>shitposters all move to this threadYour LARP was fun while it lasted OP but this is a ‘Metroid thread’ now.
>>729093131Dread shows her face through the visor pretty well.For some reason Prime 1 Remastered and Prime 4 made her visor a lot more opaque.
>>729092015I much prefer this to Prime 2 and 3 Samus.Brawl and Hunters are still the best though.
>>729093150Prime 1 remastered looks better than prime 4 and you cannot change my mind.
>>729092778Agreed. 'Zero Suit' Samus is an abomination and always the worst option, design-wise.
>>729093260BotW's working demo was pretty much a Zelda 1 mod with a slightly different progression. Aonuma talked about it.
>>729092778It looks like she’s wearing a wig.
>>729083973Hey, OP. I know some things about development myself. Answer me these two questions and if you’re correct on one or both I will trust your LARP.>Name the scrapped area from this game or what kind of area it was
>>729086193>And the strong, empowered female who can handle everything on her ownWho? Samus?
>>729093375I just wish Prime 1 Remastered didn't lose the dynamic lighting from your shots and morph ball, ruins the feel of some dark areas.
>>729092778the rocket heels are fucking gay
>>729086193Metroid has always been woke.
>>729093598And just for insurance, include every post you’ve made so far so I know exactly what you’ve shared.
>>729093150>Sylux swing his fat fucking cock on everyone Chad
>>729093695I don’t mind the lack of beam lighting. The one thing I feel the remaster massively fucked up was the lighting in the observatory room. It has a big skylight, a game from 2002 nails the ambient natural lightning perfectly and the remaster just makes it another pitch black room after the power goes out.
>>729093203Snot propaganda IgnoreMost Prime games are semi-linear
>>729093203If a Metroid game has a map station, then it’s linear.
>>729093395Prime 4 ignoring Zero Slop was the best decision they made for the game Shame it came with a cost, we get Armstong canonized as some annoying carpet-happy fangirl.
>>729093868>erm ignore the fact that the first three have interconnected maps with vertical platforming>beyond’s linear corridor shooter level design is the same ackchuallyFuck off you stupid tendie nigger.
>AssCancer moves to this thread to seethe about the zero suit.Whelp, see you next time.
>>729086571>Sylux’s motivation is actually some completely random guys and nothing to do with Samus or the FedsOkay this guy is bullshitting. I want the Kriken to show up but making it so Sylux’s plans were actually about them is retarded
>>729093375I agree, I'm specifically talking about Samus.
>>729090476But sylux also steals a energy tank.
How good is Pinball?
>>729092343But do you trust a woman as the next director?Risa Tabata is obviously going to be Tanabe's successor.
>>729093946Super has map stations, so no, your premise is wrong.
>>729093989You never actually played Prime 1, it's less open ended than Super and Fusion even.Fuck, it's leas open than level based FPS FPSes than DooM and DOOM
>amaGo back.
>>729093803>Entire game is a metaphor for Metroid fans getting fucked
>>729083973Post proof
>Fuck off you stupid tendie Snotty melty loooooool
>>729093997I am bullshitting. I just want to see the bug bois again.
>>729094074>retarded ESL trips over its own words in its rush to out itself as a secondary I have 100% in every single Metroid game. I’ve also filled your mother with my cum to 100% capacity.
>>729094178Oh are you not OP? Carry on then. I too would like to see the other Hunters.
>>729093990>AssCancerWE ARE CHARLIE KIRRRRRRRRRK
We’ll never have a good Metroid thread ever again.
>>729089974go back to the fridge Sylux
>>729094297There was a decent one last night. Some cancerous arguing but it wasn’t about Prime 4 funnily enough
>>729094205>ESLESLESL>shit that never happened the snot bot got trashed Thanks for playing, you pig piece of shit.
>>729094297I don't want to clog the catalog but I want to make a thread about what the Japanese are saying about MP4 because I found one of their threads with 400+ replies. I expect a lot of shitposting as well but I think it could be a fun thread.
>We’ll [HEADCANON]Syluxposting improved the Metroid topic
Macaco is going wild again
>>729094539I remember stumbling on some YouTube comments/tweets and was surprised about how many more of them liked Sylux/his backstory.
>>729094493>immediate seetheA hit dog hollers.
>>729094297Metroid 6 will save us
>>729094670The Japanese love a good rivalry, even if it's not necessarily well-done or fleshed out. Sylux is still a jobber.
>>729092015Smash 4 design is pure perfection.
>>729086285You know, there's a theory that Sylux knew about the artifact from the opening before he attacked (i.e. he found Lamorn tech during a different raid, possibly becoming a "chosen one") because it looks like he is aiming for the artifact rather than Samus during their encounter. What if the "mind control" metroids were created using Lamorn tech / abilities?I hate how Beyond gives us tons of dialogue without managing to communicate much at all. Blatant sequel bait.
>>729093803The most cucked character on Metroid to date. Can't believe they were building all this anticipation for nearly two decades to be all gone to waste thanks to a dyke lesbian writer.
>Tanabe ruins everything, againEntirely unsurprising
>>729083973Why Hyrule FieldWhy didn't anyone say anything about itWhy pad it out with the crystal collecting, Metroid is the last series in the world that would benefit from padding, the games are fast by design
>>729095716Sylux’s backstory was written in 2006, you can hate it but you can’t blame it on trannies
>>729094670I've been looking for this JP guy on twitter from last decade who loved Hunters and Sylux and made mockups like this when Prime 4 was announced.. But I can't find the account and only the thumbnails of what he made. Maybe it's on my other hard drive. I'd like to see his creations again.
>>729094094I like how Giger-esque the arcgitecture was but with a nice clean coat of paint instead of being black and xenomorph like.
>>729083973Probably bullshit but I'll bite:>Was there any deeper reason in picking the setting for Prime 4 to be what it was? Was it to try and recapture some of what Prime 1 or Bryyo in 3 did, with exploring a dead/doomed race with its world left barren? Or to try and do something new and Resident Evilish with all the abandoned factories and the Ice Path in general?>Is there any deeper thought behind the 12 Lamorn who left the doomed Viewros to search for the Chosen One, or is it just fluff to the story?>Was Sylux always intended to be a pissed-off Fed, or was there workshopping with his origin still shrouded in mystery since '06?>Why was the secret ending so lacking and devoid of future game setups compared to the rest of the series?>Was the lack of sequence breaking and more rigid, linear travel a Retro decision, or a Nintendo decision?
>>729096287And when we finally see him in action it's lame all around, like we just see him getting cut to get more screentime of the Borderland 2 squad of goons, among other things. No shit, of course i blame this dogshit on the development team of Prime 4 and everyone involved, who else??
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>>729095716Samus didn’t end up a troon, no matter how hard you shilled your blue haired girlfriend. Cope.
>>729094094>sees a door>thinks of genitalia
>>729096513The Lamorn did remind me a lot of the Bryyoans.>race with multiple ages of advanced technology and magic>they didn’t try to synthesize the two >their kind became corrupted and became destroying one another
>>729096732I will say it’s not canon but I’m disappointed that all I’m seeing is yurishittery with one of the Feds and not Sylux hatesex
>>729095716I wasn't into this guy until he stole an energy tank from me and laugh about it.
What would you have named the “green energy”?
>>729096513I love how this chosen 1 story ended up being about picking up the pieces of a death race, not saving them or anything.
>>729093203>this is supposedly peakit's a straight line, though
>>729094024Super > AM2R = Fusion > Prime 2 > Prime 4 = Prime 1 > Metroid 1 > Prime Hunters > Dread > Prime 3 > Samus Returns > Prime Pinball = Zero Mission > Federation Force > Metroid 2 = Other M
>>729083973What's their genuine opinion on Tanabe?
>>729098237Viewrosite or something dumb like that with part of the planet's name in it.
>>729086193I don't think they care about the taxonomy of media fads at this point, the suits are selling out the customer and the rest is history. We can't get coherent products made anymore because the market's locked up in a tower and we're not based enough to go cold turkey en masse or to make our own products and stand in solidarity.At the end of the day, we're begging kings not to fuck our wives and daughters when we gave them the damned right to bust down our doors whenever they please. They're loyal to brand inertia and fear only office politics, so there's no way to get them to work for our approval now. All the money's already theirs; being juggled from one hand to the other and back again.
>>729098237Verdralt
>>729098237Green Phazon
>>729096828The person you responded to didn't explicitly say that but you instantly knew what he meant
>>729098237Nothing, it's perfect the way it is. Samus can interface with their technology, but her suit is doing the heavy lifting translating things. That's why it comes out to "green energy" it's an English description of the Lamorn language. The same thing can happen when using google translate on Japanese text.
>cuckoldry analogy
>>729099017>every other metroid game is full of crazy alien place names and other thingsNo. Stop making excuses for trash. It needed an actual name. "Green Energy" is obscenely bad writing. Like they're ashamed of being sci-fi
>>729099113It's not an excuse, it's just a neat thing this game uniquely does. Sorry you're retarded, it cannot be helped.
>>729099186>it's just a neat thing this game uniquely does.It's not neat to have dogshit names.
>>729099224I knew the trick was morph bombs but I didn't realize you could also just toss them at him.
here's how you fix Metroid.1. have Metroids in the game. regular, Alpha, Beta, Zeta, all of thems.2. Make game like pic. 3rd person, action, Other M but awesome. 3. NO side character tag a long Fed characters. We don't care. Metroid should be solo, clostrophobic, dark, you against the aliens.4. Include Mother Brain and Ridley as bosses.
>>729083973Why did you take game design advice from 4chan?
>>729098237Mountain's Dew.
>>729099225Everything Lamorn has a plain translated name, except for the Vi-O-La as the game presents it, which again seems like a broken translation. Everything Galactic Federation has a highly specific name. Neat. You dumb.
>>729099540>Everything Lamorn has a plain translated nameYes because the game was written by retards. Simple as. You fucking pseud.
why didn't one of the 12 Lamorn who left their planet just take the memory fruit with them?why was it so important that some alien chosen one do it for them?
Are Prime 2 and 3 ever coming to Switch/Switch 2?
>>729099398This is a lot of nostalgia fagging and very little gameplay ideas
>>729099398>Mother BrainThe worst boss in the series.
>>729099398Nearly all the Metroid evolution stages are lame.Their larval form is the most interesting and iconic, and they should be kept that way most of the time.
>>729098237Gween Energy
>>729100310They can only metamorphize on their home planet anyway, or at least need the same conditions replicated in an artificial biome like the Bottle Ship.
>>729100604Prime 1 made it so any extreme energy source can mutate them into monsters which is more interesting, they just only evolve properly and without extreme energy on PLANET SR388
>>729099398Kraid in 3-D, since he got cut from Prime 1. And he's gigantic.
>>729083973Who's brilliant idea was it to add that annoying guy who won't SHUT THE FUCK UP to the game? Did they learn nothing from Other M's similar attempt at giving Metroid more story and dialogue than it otherwise needs?
>>729099615filtered
>>729101172literally isn't an issue
>>729101172somehow they must have thought from Other M it is only bad if Samus is talking.so instead in this game they made Samus appear as a mute psychopath who ignores the questions of everyone around her other than nodding her head occasionally.
>>729083973did they know they were putting out a pile of shit?
