I always see people calling fighting games dead, especially when they are referring to other skill based 1v1 games like arena shooters or RTS. But here is the thing, fighting games are more alive than they have ever been. You need to remember that fighting games are also on console, and most modern fighting games have crossplay enabled. Take the steam daily peak player count and triple it, that is basically the true daily peak of available players. I'd say there are probably anywhere from 100,000 to 200,000 unique players daily when you take into account all modes. Compared to arena shooters, fighting games are incredibly thriving. We have active local scenes, competitive scenes, and online scenes. The biggest name in arena shooters only gets a peak of 400 players daily. RTS games may be a bit more popular than fighting games when it comes to player count, but our competitive and local scenes are actually alive and thriving. When you compare fighting games to other popular games, you have to remember it is a 1v1 game. A better metric to compare it to other games is to take the number of possible matches that could be happening at a time. For example, in order to fill an ARC Raiders lobby you need 21 players. Lets take the peak and divide it by the amount of players you need to have a match.>445,973/21 = 21237Now lets do the same for Street Fighter 6>37,646/2 = 18823Note, these are only Steam numbers, the amount of playable matches at peak hours is actually much greater. Outside of the titans, the "liveliness" of SF6 is comparable to most popular multiplayer games.Sorry for the bad grammar, I'm ESL.
>claims fighting games are not dead>posts proof of them being dead in the LITERAL OP image>olympic levels of mental gymanstics in the text that y-y-y-y-y-yy-y--you see less numbers is actually more xDDDDOh boy, it's retard o'clock.
>>729090125retarded bitch
>>729089335That looks pretty damn dead to me. Only old as hell games like payday 2 get those numbers
>>729089335>>Now lets do the same for Street Fighter 6how many of these people are in Japan just idling in battle hub for social status?
>>729090598How many people are in CS:GO community servers or botting casual games to get case drops?
Op. There are 400 players on Blazblue and yet theres like 3 lobbies each with 2-3 people in them and ranked has 4 people in it. Where are the other retards? Staring at the main menu? A large part of the playerbase in these games arent even playing them.
>>729091037Practice mode or story mode.
>>729090916none, it's CS2 and cases haven't dropped at the end of games for ages
>>729091114Do fighting fags think you learn by spamming combos for 10 hours? When are you guys going to start playing the game (Which means fighting a non training dummy)
>>729091121https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF6JTIK9suk
>>729091121>he thinks CS isn't full of botfarms pcbros lmao
Fighting games are dead, EXCEPT for street fighter. The genre as a whole is kill. Tekken died with 8. MK is even more of a joke than ever and is only selling to people who play campaign for a couple of hours. SNK can't make people play their games even with ridiculous marketing and tournament prize money. Guilty Gear is doing ok but at the cost of becoming complete trash and the designated genderspecial retard franchise..Every new franchise or returning franchise that's not SF or GG is doomed to failIf fucking riot can't make a game that gets massively popular it's fucking over for the genre.At least SF6 lucked out and got viral with popular jap streamers and vtumors so it's huge there.
Fighting games aren't dead, but they are not popular. They have just enough players to consistently get quick matches and that's good enough for fans of the genre. No other genre can have a player base so low and still survive.
Anyone up for some Fightcade, anything at all?
>>729092223Tekken 8 is more popular than Tekken 7.
>>729091192BBCF has a lot of single player contentPeople are probably fucking around in Abyss mode or something
>>729092223trvke
>>729092223>Every new franchise or returning franchise that's not SF or GG is doomed to failGranblue Fantasy Versus is doing wellTekken is doing well, despite people hating the gameRivals of Aether 2 is doing fine, considering it's an indie game and an IP that no one gives a fuck aboutCotW would be doing okay if SNK spent more time balancing the game and less time blowing Saudi oil money on marketing and egregiously high tournament prize pools2XKO is doing poorly because it sucks and Riot has no idea what the fuck it's doing
>>729092783>Granblue Fantasy Versus is doing welllol. lmao. That game is so unfun it's unreal and has the worst player retention in a fighting game.
>>729092783>Granblue Fantasy Versus is doing well
>>729092783>GBFV 66L and 20 second combos with the worst system mechanic (brave points) in fighting game history.
fighting games are like MMORPGS where 90% of normies will flock to the 1 or 2 most popular games and the remaining ones are played by diehard autists
>>729093967>worst system mechanic (brave points) in fighting game history.No, thats not the worst. Random tripping in Brawl, gems and Pandora in SFxT, Reversal edge in SC6, Danger time in Xrd and so on.Framelinks and infinites maybe as well.
>>729091037Think about it like an arcade: there was often just couple of cabinets which had a queue but the max amount of players was always around 10 or so.Have you ever seen an arcade with 400 players playing the same game? I think the amount of players in these games are pretty realistic. No one wants to play beat em up games multiple hours every day, every week.They are designed to be played in short bouts here and there.
>>729094561>BrawlNot a fighting game
>>729094621He's right because it was a mechanic deliberately implemented to stop people from playing competitively (and then they did it anyway)
>>729094561>Danger time in XrdThat was a good mechanic though
Should I install Touhou Hisoutensoku and Melty Blood Actress Again? I played a bit on Fightcade but that is dead and I dont know if they are worth it.
VIRTUA FIGHTER 6 will save Fighting Games
>>729095346>plays ur game for 2 weeks on launch and goes back to sf6
>>729095067Soku is kinda kusoge but it has some interesting mechanicsMelty is greatGood luck finding anyone to play them with tho>>729091192BBCF's got some long ass BNBs
>>729091192Nigger not everyone is playing fighters solely for online. This is why the genre is dying because it's been seen as a multiplayer only game and most fg devs refuse to actually expand the singleplayer content. Shoutout to SF6 having world tour mode (despite how shitty it is) and other fighting games that goes beyond arcade mode and survival mode.
>>729089335nu shit fighter isn't even a fighting game anymore, it's also dead
>>729092783>Granblue Fantasy Versus is doing wellLiterally below SF6, T8 and Strive even other 3 fg's like MK11 or BBCF (one time).
>>729089335I'd rather SF die than go on as it is now. The thought that every SF going forward is gonna have some version of slime rush is depressing
>>729094935>MORTAL!>MORTAL!>MORTAL!
>>729089335Vast majority of my matches in SF6 aren't against other PC players, so I think it may even be more than triple to be honest.Fighting games, I'd say especially so of Tekken and Mortal Kombat even moreso than Street Fighter, are a genre of game I feel like is played more by a console crowd of cazzies.It's not sports/shooter, BUT, whenever I meet someone IRL who plays Tekken, Mortal Kombat, or Street Fighter, they're always someone who also largely players Madden/NBA2K/Call of Duty/Battlefield.These same people even if I played Counter Strike or DOTA, they wouldn't be able to relate to me at all in that game. These aren't PC players.
>>729092783>CotW would be doing okay if SNK spent more time balancing the game and less time blowing Saudi oil money on marketing and egregiously high tournament prize poolsCotW would be doing well if SNK spent more of that Saudi Oil money on making the game not look like it released in the year 2008.Honestly, 2008 may be flattering it, Soul Calibur 4, Dead or Alive 4, and Tekken 6 look better than it. Maybe more launch Xbox 360.
Any good free fighting games aside from Fightcade?
>>729089335With fighting games you only need 2 people for a match. With a moba you need 10. Its really easy to get games in most fighters.
>>729099353Granblue Rising, 2XKO, Dead Or Alive 5, Dead Or Alive 6, Killer Instinct, Starward (Gacha), Brawlhalla (If you count it as a fighting game).
I mean the real issue for fighters is a lack of ease with getting newer players into the games, and if you do, they'll gravitate towards the popular ones, so it's harder for niche entries to get new players.Moaning about games like SF6 and Tekken for being dead games is foolish, but even for the decently populated games like CotW and Rising, it's harder to find games in your regions, regardless of rollback, because most people are still separated by connection.I would love to learn AH3 and play some Iron Saga VS online, but those are functionally discord games AT BEST and single player at worst. So in a genre that's more specifically functioning differently than other entries versus casually similar genres like FPS', it's not worth it for new fighters to come out, even with different feeling gameplay.AND THEN you've got the homogenization of the genre by way of gripping at the past and not taking worthwhile criticism of new designs for the future. A whole different bag of worms.
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>>729091192>Do fighting fags think you learn by spamming combos for 10 hoursIts mainly to build muscle memory I think. Some people like finding weird combos that you'd, realistically, rarely ever pull off in an actual match.
But seriously how the fuck fatal fury flopped so hard?It's way better than strive, kekken8 and sf6
>>729099353Fightcade is basically a emulator There's no such thing as "free" fighting game
I don't know much about fighting games but having watched a fair bit of content, I'm left with he impression that SF4 has the tightest controls and neutral. No floaty bullshit, no endless juggling, no slime, no 40 hit combos. Even the supers are quick and concise.
>Fightcade is basically a emulator>There's no such thing as "free" fighting game
>>729102631>>729102963Fightcade is a frontend
do not bother with granblueit's barely a fighting game thanks to 66L, BC and ult moves.don't at me /gbvsg/. you are all delusional trannies.
>>729092372post the pubekino
>>729101703CotW isn't decently populated lmao
YEAH STAY AWAY FROM GRANBLUE ITS A KUSOGE PARTYSLOPPER DO NOT PLAY IT
