We need to ban gacha now. Real otaku games are being suffocated by these shitty FOMO-driven GaaS slot machine simulators monopolizing otaku spending. Gacha has an objectively negative impact on the market just by its existence, as it incentivizes a "race to the bottom" as everyone else is forced to adopt similar predatory monetization models just to keep up. This is not a moralfagging thing; gacha objectively lowers the standards for real games everywhere by being so much more successful for so much less effort in providing a good product. There is zero benefit to allowing it to stay and many benefits to getting rid of it like a cheater in a board game. During the Vita era, this stuff sold like 50k just in Japan. You can't blame everything on Sony/Nintendo/Steam censoring these games for their failure; because gacha has captured the Japanese market almost completely, these games which used to be made entirely for the domestic audience now have to look west to survive, and that means going through western cultural commissars. Gacha is as much to blame for the downfall of retail otaku games as platform censorship, an uncomfortable truth too many self-proclaimed otakus and defenders of these games are not willing to admit.
>>729093523chaos; head was always garbage
>>729093523I don't care at this point if we have to ride the "protect muh chillins" wave to achieve it; gacha needs to be fucking banned everywhere ASAP.
>>729093607No.
>>729093523>Chaos;HeadIt's no longer 2009 old man.
>>729093523Anything with the "word;word" format as the title is shit. No exceptions.
>>729093523>because of gachado you have proof of this, or are you just coping because the game you like didn't sell as much as you personally think it should have
>>729093686Yeah, it's 2025 and everyone, including you, is a pig who plays shitty low-effort gambling simulators disguised as "games" and donates to e-whores with anime girl rigs instead of playing and watching real otakucore
>>729093607Fuck you
>>729093863>is a pig who plays shitty low-effort gambling simulators disguised as "games"Yeah. Sounds about right. But let's not pretend that C;H is a real game in question tho. >donates to e-whores with anime girl rigs That just a bit of your fanfiction bleeding in. See. You think you have everything and everyone figured out. But in reality you act like a sperg.
>>729093523>You can't blame everything on Sony/Nintendo/Steam censoring these games for their failureI think it's a big factor. What's the point in buying panty quest 9000 when you can get a much more shameless game on your phone for free? The devs generally have less worries about it getting rejected at the last minute too. If Apple and Google started hammering down I think we would see a shift back to Vita levels of anime-style kusoge where most of the sales are from different stores offering lewd tapestry preorder bonuses.There's a small core audience that absolutely hates gachashit, but as shown by those sales it's small as fuck and not sustainable.
>>729093607fpbp
>>729093523No it sold poorly because it's just a re-release of a niche visual novel where whoever wanted to play it has already done so ages ago. Now if steins gate does poorly that's something to talk about.
>>729093843How else do you explain the sheer decline in sales numbers in Japan for these games from the Vita/PS3/360 era to today? Something like Moero Chronicle, a Compile Heart passion project with no brand name otherwise, sold fucking 50k on the Vita in Japan. Senran Kagura moved tens of thousands of copies per release. Gal*Gun Double Peace sold over 100k worldwide. Now? They can't even get on the Famitsu top 30 lists any more. This is not a MAGES/Chaos;Head-specific problem; EVERY single major otaku publisher and games are reporting serious declines across the board. Compile Heart games sell barely 2k in Japan now. Inti Creates' recent Majogami sold the worst of any game of theirs ever. Even when these devs do uncensored releases they still sell poorly, showing it's not really about the games being censored or not, at least in Japan. Chaos;Head Love Chu Chu is pure unfiltered otakucore with plenty of lewd fanservice and shenanigans, and yet it STILL sold poorly. Where's the otaku audience that should be showing up for these games? Oh right, they're fucking glued to their phones playing shitty gacha games and donating to e-whores with an anime coat of paint. God I hate Reiwa "otaku".
>>729093523>muh gchaRetarded faggot
just pirated chaos head chu chu for my vita what should I expect
>>729093523>late port does badis this supposed to be news?
I don't play gacha and I have no desire to buy Chaos;Shit again or play a spinoff of ittbqhsenpaifam
>>729095282Less horror and more fanservice
I recently played a few ecchi games (Castle Panzers, Valkyrie Drive) and they would not stand a chance today. They are such money-less projects that constantly reuse stages and bosses with untested ultra jank gameplay. I cannot blame gacha games for replacing these. It's respectable they weren't trying to directly rape your wallet sure, but their first and foremost objective was to extract otakus of their money with minimal effort nonetheless (especially since these games tended to have mountatins of DLC). Gacha is simply the next evolution of that. I cannot blame otakus for moving on and not coming back.
>>729093523>no PC releaseI guess they don't want my money
>>729093523Gachaslop seemingly can't even show pantyshots anon.The overlap between that and otaku is almost 2 different circles, made worse by the fact that the ironic weebs prone to falling for gachaslop don't buy games, they pirate them.
>>729094719times change and genres die out. Chuuni has been replaced by endless moeshit mass produced titles, and that itself is getting replaced by phone games Just play the old stuff and be happy it existed because like the electronics-centric Akihabara, it is never coming back
>>729094719reminder to stop using CH in your tantrums, you shouldnt be bootlicking a chink company that lied about nintendo japan banning their games only to turn around and release them on the switch twice anyway once their pis5 exclusive flopped
>>729093523>Releasing your gay ass little manga books on consoles >In 2025Just post that shit on webtoonz or whatever the kids are using. Visual novels are dead.
>>729094719>How else do you explain the sheer decline in sales numbers in Japan for these games from the Vita/PS3/360 era to today?Changing audience tastes/demograhic drift? You literally blame reiwa era otaku for buying gacha slop without considering that they may not want your personal flavour of otaku game. Perhaps they are playing gachapon style titles because there are no full release style games coming out that provide what they want and us Heisei era otaku are dying out which is causing sales aimed at heisei otaku to flag.One can argue correlation vs causation all day but it won't make it true unless we can get some actual data
>>729094719>>729096046Why do you fags constantly conveniently ignore even AA companies that wanted AAA money are ditching both gacha and westoids and going back crawling for otaku money?
>>729097713>but my exceptionI don't have a full grasp on the entire industry from a data perspective that's why not once did I state a clear answer or reality. It's a possibility that gacha is at fault, or perhaps tastes have changed or maybe Chaos;Head is just plain bad and otaku games on the whole are thriving.
>>729098262>exception?
>>729093607Is it really that bad? I wanted to buy it since it's on sale.
>>729093863You realize both of those things you're complaining about are direct descendants of the moeshit visual novels and moeshit late night anime of the Akiba-kei era, right?If you didn't want cute marketable girls to be more important than gameplay or story maybe throwing money at pngs, 00's style, was a mistake. Since it's inarguably lead to throwing money at pngs, 10's and 20's style.
>>729099892>picrelnta but who's that?
>>729101516>-keicongratulations on outing yourself as a goyslurper getting all his info from hallucinated video essays lol
>>729093523>>729093843OP is coping because the romantic spinoff of Chaos;Child originally released on Vita & PS4 nearly a decade ago, while the Chaos;Head one is from the early 2010s (and came out on Xbox 360, PS3, PSP and Vita) so the Switch port is essentially a port collection of two really old games.
>>729102485It doesn't help chunsoft was also one of the companies that went full westoid slurper like SE and crapcom so you are unlikely to see anything from them ever again as they spiral further into bankruptcy.Good riddance.
>>729102463Sorry mate but I learned to write -kei like that since back when we were talking about sekai-keiover 20 years ago.Same as I'll write narou-kei when I'm not speaking Japanese
>>729093523It's a RE-re-release of a spin-off bundle from the subseries of visual novel series that has never been succesful except for ONE game in 2009, and another minor success in 2008 that was a re-release of a 2007 game
>>729102675>when we were>weMore like normalfags desperate to fit in were.
>>729102581That's MAGES though, although it does have issues. I recall the Switch version of Chaos;Head was a port of the censored PSP/Xbox360 version, and not the uncut Vita version, despite sharing the same CERO rating as the latter.If we're speaking about Spike Chunsoft, I do have an issue about them for transforming Kenka Bachou into an otome ADV serie, like wtf.
>>729103101Correcting my mistake: the PSP & PS3 were the censored versions of Chaos;Head Noah (basically a route has the gore and descriptions of cannibalism removed) while the Xbox 360 and Vita were the uncut versions.
>>729093523Thread theme songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8AN0jWNrJA
>>729094719simple really: moege are low effort trash and failed to keep with the eye candy of gachashit.if you want to blame anyone, blame the devs for failing to make good games
>>729093607I hate gacha as much as OP does but fpbpas far as denpa VNs go it's so milquetoast and slop. the entire sci;adv universe is just trash unironically
>>729103725>denpa VNsCan you recommend some? The only ones I know are C;H and Saya no Uta.
>>729093523Its an old ass VN no shit its not going to sell well.
>>729093523>gachaWhat now?
>>729103425>descriptions of cannibalism removedThey censored the the incident where a woman chewed her own hand and choked on her own bones?
>>729094719Those are physical sales only and Famitsu and Media Create never tracked the same stores to begin with.
>>729104239Subahibi and sayonara wo oshiete
>>729093523why can't people just be satisfied with the success they once had instead of dragging their legacy through sewage trying to relive their peak popularity?
>>729093607fpbp>>729093523mages is a bunch of incompetent HACKS! nobody in japan cares about 15yo sfw sloppas, they could've brought this to the west for cents but nooooooooo they needed another floppa on record, because apparently anonymous;shit wasn't enough
>>729108636ironic weebs need their entry level sloppa to pretend they are hardcore otaku gaymers please understand
>>729094719>on the vitaGee, I wonder what changed to make games that flourished on a system which had fucking nothing else available suddenly unsuccessful?
>>729108824Snoyim devs that refused to move to the platform actually allowing the types of games they were already making verbatim because it wasn't sony, even if snoy literally wanted them dead.Eventually said devs rightfully ate shit and died or sold out to chinks, leaving out sales on the table for actually good devs.
are we getting chuchu now bros ?
>>729093523That's nice and all, but you should probably posting this on 2channel
