>Generative AI has been mainstream for almost 6 years now>0 successful games that integrate it into gameplay naturallyWhat a joke of an industry and don't tell me about some shitty streamer bait games with 0 gameplay that just parses input into GPT
integrate it into gameplay naturallywhat xhe mean by that
you now remember INFINITE DETAIL
remember the metaverse?remember NFTs?
>integrate it into gameplay naturallyexplain what this means
>>729098041>>729098086I mean integrate it in a vague way so I can always move the goalposts
Suck Up was pretty fun
I've seen indie shit that generated dialogue It was some detective game
>>729098005it's implemented into development where you can parse and refine outputs. you do not want integrated gen ai in games yet
>>729098005how the fuck has it been mainstream for 6 years? like 2 at most>>729098072none of these shitty literalwhos are even 0.000001% as cool as AI.
>>729098005>Simpons have been mainstream for almost 50 years now>0 good episodes that make you laugh naturallyWhat a joke of a cartoon.
>>729098005Gen AI in current year can realistically only be used for creating static things; art, textures, models, etc.You can't implement it into the gameplay, mechanics, NPCs or anything dynamic without either cooking your console/PC, or having it so simplistic that it isn't even worth implementing over hard coding. Or have everything server-based and pray to god you're mining diamonds in sales and microtransactions to afford upkeep on the power draw equivalent of an entire town.
>>729098297>how the fuck has it been mainstream for 6 years? like 2 at mostwill_smith_ghetti.wmv
>>729098086I feel like OP means beyond llm chatbots that dont actually interact with the game world.They want e3 oblivion radiant ai level, at a bare minimum. That still hasn't happened. Instead we get llms running dialogue systems to fill in flavour text and nothing else. Even fortnites ai Darth Vader was just a chatbot attached to normal ai controller.
>>729098496I should also add in that AA and AAA studios will absolutely pull the trigger on >having it so simplistic that it isn't even worth implementing over hard codingbecause it can be used to cut out human programmer salaries and save costs. Once the media sensationalism dies down and people lay down and just take it because Polygon stops telling them to be angry, expect to see this become a common occurrence in future titles that are anything riskier than formulaic flagship IPs.
>>729098297>how the fuck has it been mainstream for 6 years? like 2 at most
>>729098065no
The minor NPC conversations are AI-generated live in Where Winds Meethttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/C7F_4oWFkdE
>>729098373have you tried running it through chatgpt saar?
mmm keep moving those goalposts buddy.
>>729099097right, sorry, it was UNLIMITE DETAILhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO4CQrIKxwI
>>729099434esl brown
>>729098065I will never forget that statue
>>729099052That isnt mainstream
>>729098005>>729098086We had indians spamming the board half a year ago with AI generated "Step into the painting" gamesOP isn't even asking for that level of sophistication and indian programming is still failing to provide
>>729098005the new chinese wuxia game broke new ground with its use of AI to create immersive dialogue with NPCs
Games are literally one of the hardest things you can create. Unironically being a researcher is easier
>>729099434The idea was fine but their approach was bad, nanite achieves the same result in a slightly saner way and is actually viable for games.GenAI has a similar issue with being a parallel technology that isn't easy to implement due to how games are designed and structured so it's limited to talking darth vader gimmicks, at this pace we'll be seeing fully "AI-native" games before any serious mixed usage.
All the people dick riding generative AI and should realize that it’s people taking shortcuts, it’s harmful to the environment, and it is a big tech bubble funded by fascists to silence dissenting voices and loses billions of dollars annually and that bubble is gonna burst and it’s only going to harm the middle and lower classes in the process.So go ahead and be a futurist and then remember that art is the last thing we have that keeps us human. And the end goal of a civilization should be to make art and not replace the makers of it so more people can be replaceable worker bees.
>>729098072Yeah, and AI is nothing like those. It has a practical use case.You guys need to pick your battles if you want to retain any credibility. You will lose on this anti AI stance and all it will signal to companies is that you are noise to be disregarded.
>>729102369>people taking shortcutsYeah, devs should make games with pcs from the 80s and no modern software
Shitting on AI now as a doomed concept would be like shitting on video games in the early 70s as a doomed concept
>>729103539B-but this time it's different!
>>729103539It's more of question of what AI will take offA lot of the discussion is around generative AI but stuff like machine learning and neural networks are a different story
>>729104437machine learning is a very broad thing, so everytime there's an article about some scientist using it to automate a tedious repetitive task in research you get floods of individuals from certain low income countries spamming /v/ with posts about how that means that all art in existence should be replaced with slop generators
>>729098297What is cool about typing in a prompt to generate slop images?>>729102793>It has a practical use case.Like what? Keeping in mind we're talking about generative AI being used to make a good game, not entirely separate technologies lumped under the same "AI" label.
>>729103539>unreleased game with an already hyper-toxic userbase>unreleased game by a dev whose last game had a disastrous launch and took years of extra development to get to a functional state>arguably the worst game company in Japan>dev talking purely in a hypothetical>arguably the most evil media company on Earth, making an investment in an untested product>first actual released product, that had to release a patch to remove AI slop assets due to consumer backlash>completely different technology lumped under the "AI" umbrella term>ending with a pajeet tier slop memeYou will never be a real country.
>>729105141Maybe you're too young to have perspective but a computer being capable of comprehending natural language and utilizing it across a vast variety of fields is nothing short of incredible technology that sci-fi stories always dreamed of.
>>729104924Yeah it's fucking annoying but obviously it's actually a complex subject so they gravitate to the most obvious and straightforward shit possible.Hell using AI to actually improve the shit we already have is a no brainer.
>>729105468The exact opposite, I'm old enough to have lived through tech company bullshit. You are young enough to be fooled by hype marketing because "muh scifi".LLMs do not "comprehend natural language". They train on massive sets of scalped data and use probability to generate a glorified autocomplete. Nothing of what is generated can be relied upon, they hallucinate nonsense constantly.You also didn't answer my question about practical use cases. It's pure investor and CEO hype. Most consumers don't like or care about this shit.
>>729105468And it's only good for generating niche porn.I mean, thank you for the absolute abundance of realistic looking body inflation, I've nutted so hard I could build a snowman made of jizz.But I want you to bring me on stage at a fucking shareholders meeting so I can show them my favourite pornographic images while you try to explain how this is actually literally the best thing ever while I goon to a woman growing an actual udder as she turns into an anthro cow.I want you to point to me jacking it giantess feet gens and say "This is worth investing infinitybillion dollars towards"I want you to explain as I shriek as if I lurve mudkips to a hyperpregnant goth girl farting that THIS is how we beat ChyNAHDo it cunt.You wouldn't do it, you're too scared.
Why would I want AI in my gameplay? That's retarded. Just use it to make the tedious tasks of game development faster
>>729105468not how it works
>>729098534that was 2 years ago though?
>>729105759>>729105953I regularly use AI for gamedev and programming in many different contexts and project sizes because it's obviously useful for that. You're conflating your personal uselessness and lack of productivity with a problem inherent to the technology.
>>729098005Fortnite is a successful game in which you can get AI Darth Vader to say bad words
>>729106148>t. never actually played Fortnite
>>729106139And where's your game, nigger.
>>729106221google "half-life"
>>729106320no fucking way
>>729106320
>>729102369I don't care about "morals" or "the environment" or "soul" or "work ethic" or "the economy" or "artistry"I don't like it because it looks like shit, that's the long and short of it.
>>729098005Fucking based.AI qiqes absolutely destroyed.
>>729102793>all it will signal to companies is that you are noise to be disregarded.Oh man I don't want that. They definitely take public interests into account now. You're right, we don't want to burn all our good will with corporations. They might start doing things to advance themselves at the expense of normal people.
>>729106476Based
>>729098005/mlp/ has an ai visual novel
>>729104437machine learning and neural networks have also been in use since the early 1900s (yes actually). More importantly once computers started becoming household objects, machine learning really took off. Computer Vision has been studied pretty intensely the past 20 years straight and I don't think China will ever get rid of its surveillance cameras any time soon.neural networks are sticking around forever for sure, they're too broadly useful to go away. Generative AI on the other hand will probably wane in hype over the next fews years, but never be gone forever
Eventually it'll have enough ideas and data to make good things, principally if someone smart is helping it filter thingsIt's like the monkey typing Hamlet, but magnitudes more likely
what the FUCK is that even supposed to mean?AI generation is too slow to work on the fly in a game.AI chat bot text games already exist as far as Im aware.Its primarily going to be abused for coding shortcuts and asset generation.
>>729107713>Eventually it'll have enough ideas and dataWe already ran out and plenty of high-profile researchers are saying that an actual innovation is going to be needed to make it better.
>>729098373Do you unnaturally laugh at things, anon?
