Homosexuality is redpilled.

To this day it will never stop being funny to me how FromShitware bought into all reddit and niggerVaati/Zullie the Tranny posting that everyone liked Radahn so they retconned the DLC boss into him and ruined all lore and everyone hated it.
Hackyazaki is the most retarded director in history of gaming.

>>729101706
He's brainwashed. Making the vow involve his death and resurrection is an impossible task from the perspective of a demi-god who conquered the stars.

>>729101706
bro he got raped

>>729101706
Theres nothing wrong thematically with Consort, fight was mechanically garbage, thats the real issue

>>729102316
It really is amazing. A boss that's fucking terrible both gameplay and lorewise.

>>729102895
i honestly think it was a fun boss for people that were playing elden ring the right way. it was mostly just bad for people who played a 100 hour rpg without investing into their defensive options
Ironically my realm qualm with the fight is that both phase 1 and phase 2 are too short in their own way. Their healthpool is valid because its balanced for how many flasks you get, but i just really wish i could have been fighting them for longer. So i think they really need to do away with that stupid estus mechanic and replace it with something a little more dynamic for their healing mechanic

>>729101706
explain this?

>>729103161
>stupid estus mechanic
clarification
i think estus was perfect for dark souls 1 and 2 but i definitely want a different healing mechanic for the later souls games that are so much more action oriented

>>729103161
desu its true you can always tell the summon/fingerprint shield goblin when they try to criticize the fight "mechanically". Because it was actually an excellent fight. Not the best one, but it was good.

>>729103172
Radahn was basically Reddit Lore: The Boss for loving his heckin horse and whatever the fuck, they thought that because normies loved him so much they should bring him back so they retconned the final fight and lore into it, so then it turned out he was brainwashed by the Uber Twink into being his lover and became the most shitty and obnoxious boss fight in history of FromShitware.

>>729103341
isnt the "fingerprint shield goblin" one of the groups that can best deal with the fight?
i think 'playing it wrong' is basically expecting to have no problems after playing the whole game with nothing but rolling as their defensive method. theres so many options like shields/parries, guard counters, deflecting hardtear, fancy iframe/quickstep/bloodhound step ashes, tools that rape enemy stance, or just plainly stacking lots of defense boosts.. this sort of stuff which lets you hold up against his second phase pretty well. id be a little bored if i spent the whole game while doing nothing but roll-and-poke for my defense

>>729103510
ty <3

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>retcon is retarded
>but Radahn plapping Miquella's bussy is hot
I'm conflicted...

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>>729101706
>radahn was the fan favorite
>he was gay the whole time
>everyone stops liking him
funnyroo. though i personally like the idea that he was charmed like all of miquella's simps. the game makes it ambiguous enough you can come to that conclusion. yes i know there is that guide thing outside the game that says he was all for it. but personally i never take lore tidbits that are stated outside games seriously. and people love to come up with headcanons about these games all the time and that's what the devs want you to do too, so no hating. that aside my favorite demi-god was morgott anyway.
>b-but he's effectively fantasy uncle ruckus
yes that's why he is based. hang that graceless nigga now i got the rope right here.

>>729103341
>an excellent fight
>that consists mainly of pressing dodge at the right time

Fromdrones have zero standards desu, fucking pathetic faggots

>I am in love with my gay retarded brother

I played Elden Ring for a month straight when it released and havent touched it since

wasnt it well known that radahn was fucking the twink even then? i remember that pretty clearly from the art in game and discussions

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I knew FromShitware were hacks when they nerfed Radahn. After bitching during release i'd make him literally fucking impossible to beat without summons so all the retarded reddit niggerfaggots who always want Artorias 2.0 boss fight would fucking kill themselves because they can't 1v1 the boss anymore.

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what build should i use im gonna start a new reforged playthrough

>>729103510
Can any terminally online brown zoomers explain what raj meant here?

>>729104257
Miquella's motives were very complex

>>729104376
>spoiled the wrong word
im so fucking tired just give me a weapon bruh

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Imagine getting so old and unc-tier that you get filtered from the boss fight and make countless threads about gay incest headcanon. Imagine.

>>729104097
At this point every major character in ER is either gay, a pedo or a tranny
Is this a commentary from Miyazaki about his audience?

>>729104384
>Hard boss in the game.
>Reddit and normies on TikTok/Reels/Shorts keep memeing about his le wholesome lore because he loved his horse so much
>They watch Vaati lore videos and other dumb shit and expect Godwyn (another lore character) boss fight in the DLC
>FromHackware get the wrong message and instead of Godwyn (which would be completely new NPC) re-use Radahn model as the final boss fight and retcon the lore to make him be a bottom bitch for his twink half-brother
>literally everyone fucking hates it

Its not a sexual relationship, consort can, but doesnt always, mean a romantic relationship. Only faggot cum soaked brains make a brother relationship sexual.

>when fromsoft ran out of GRRM's sparknotes to follow they create the worst lore drop imaginable

maybe the fat fuck isn't so bad.

>>729104564
>faggot cum soaked brains
well thats miquella, isn't it ?

>>729101706
The retcon is only retarded because apparently he isn't being controlled and was in on the entire plan. Why yes, he was in on the plan to get super aids in his prime of his life so he could come back like 3000 years later. You didn't level up INT enough, you wouldn't understand

>>729103341
Big shields and the shield talisman from the DLC make the fight a total joke though

>>729102839
mindraped even worse

>>729104654
Timeline is convoluted anon. They used this excuse since first DeS.

Sex with thousand year old boys

>>729104654
For me the funniest part is that none of the lore retards or even FromSoft and GRRM himself can answer the simple question of when The Shattering took place, because game info implies it might have been centuries if not thousands of years ago or it might have happened last fucking month.

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>>729101706
>Get to fthis fight
>Eats horse during cutscene
>The horse is actually fine

>>729101706
>>729102316
I didn't finish the dlc, was some other being supposed to be the final boss and it got changed last minute like Pontiff in DS3?

>>729105108
it's le heckin horserino anon
redditors would've been mad at miyazaki if he killed the horsie

>>729105240
I don't think there's anything leftover in the files so it wasn't a last minute change in that sense. Everyone thought the DLC was gonna involve Godwyn somehow because
>land of the dead
>super ultra dead god
but it just isn't involved at all.
The only weird dead end in the DLC imo is the big Scadeutree altar past Gaius that they just piled with blessing pickups instead of being involved in unlocking the final area or whatever.

>miquella riding torrent in the promo art
>zero connection between them in the actual dlc
I'm sick of from cutting all the good content last minute

What really gets me is that it's pretty obvious that it was originally supposed to be Godwyn, even going by the base game
Think about it. Why would Mogh call it the "Moghwyn" dynasty?
Mogh+Godwyn=Moghwyn
And then Mogh's involvement would've made a lot more sense. Godwyn was his brother, so it would make more sense for Mogh to be on board with sacrificing himself to save his golden brother
Not to mention all of the eclipse shit and Miquella's eclipse eyes, but that's been retreaded a thousand times

The worst thing is that Radahn didn't really get the honorable warrior death he wanted. He died a simp for a faggot.

>>729105007
Space and time are convoluted :)

>>729104028
>but Radahn plapping Miquella's bussy is hot

It should have been me damnit.

>make a huge scary dual-wielding boss that is one of the main characters
>make him drift around on a horse that looks like a little toy under him
I know what the lore explanation is, but it's just a bizarre design choice from a visual perspective

>>729105240
AFAIK the only boss that got repurposed was Mohg, where the model came from a generic Omen Boss fight, but the character always existed without a model.
But that was from the base-game. The DLC didn't give up much interesting to data miners.

>>729103161
All they had to do was reduce his damage so that it didn't turn into a lose-more fight where one fuck up means you lose most of your HP, and that kills your rhythm to constantly keep dodging and avoiding attacks.

>>729104376
Guardian Swordspear.

>>729107740
Adding a little bit of weirdness is the key to making an actually cool character.

>>729108903
what about the cut miquella cutscene that you see in the trailer?

>>729109452
Nothing that substantial to my knowledge.
>https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1H142187h3/
The weirdest stuff I saw cut was that Romina and Rellana both had mid-fight voice lines that were removed.
But otherwise Trina had a minor 4th cut scene for after you killed Miquella, thanking you for it.

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I always said that Malenia beat him fair and square back then on /v/. Faggot had his country nuked LOL.

>>729104515
no it's because George R.R. Martin wrote the lore.

>>729110589
That fat fuck didn't write shit.

>>729110589
>Implying there wasn't troon shit since Dark Souls 1.

>>729105450
>land of the dead
Isn't the "Lands Between" purgatory?

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>>729110589
Kek

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>>729101706
He was raped by that little faggot you inconsiderate nigger.

>>729110890
More like Asgard or Mt. Olympus.

>>729101706
No one who plays FROMSOFT souls games cares about this. People who watch youtube essays about Souls game lore care but those people are already their own breed of mentally ill, so they can be ignored.
Rahdan was a fine final boss. Fucking hard fight.

>>729110361
Radahn got up after then pwned him.

>>729101706
being a twinkfucker is based. ironically, the twink is the one i'm throwing side eye at for being into a big muscley dude instead of girls or other twinks.

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i skipped the elden ring dlc

i did not skip the nightreign dlc

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>>729110750
Well, he knew that Demon souls sold "well" in America. So he had to adjust the degeneracy to his new demographic.

>>729111090
Morgott almost certainly did not fight Radahn alone, but Morgott had the better army and field advantage. We know Radahn didn't take the Capitol or maintain a presence in Leyndell, so Morgott won.

>>729111128
It's called being trengay. He ditched his horse too what the fuck?

>>729111052
But you get there, then die, then start again in the catacombs, having been resurrected, as in the Lands Between is already the land of the dead and ghosts.

>>729102554
He accepted Miquella's marriage proposal before he was brainwashed though. He simply changed his mind, so that's when Miquella brainwashed him. It was essentially a breakup, not a rejection

I honestly didn't get why he's the one Miquela has as his consort or elden lord (is it the same thing?).
I thought that Malenia was his girl, she's all like "I'm Malenia, blade of Miquela." in the base game.

>>729111879
It's not clear, because Roderika isn't a tarnished (it says she never saw the guidance of grace) and it's implied her family just sent her to the Lands Between with a retinue just to get rid of her
Though her spirit tuning ability may have something to do with it

>>729112347
Malenia is already an Empyrean (god) herself. Two gods can't marry, it has to be a god and a human. Of course, Radagon and Marika are both gods, but that was supposed to be a secret, and is the entire reason the Golden Order didn't work

>>729112347
they're both empyrean so it wouldn't work

Is he actually gay, or is this /v/ shitposting?

>>729112680
He is literally, unironically, explicitly homosexual. He's as gay as Elton John. For once, this is not "muh NTR" schizo shitposting like with God of War. For a plot as cryptic and opaque as Elden Ring, the one thing that's for certain is that Radahn and Miquella are flaming homosexuals

>>729112332
He accepted a proposal with an absurd challenge, he probably found it cute and didn't take it seriously.

>>729112680
No, it's part of the whole "The DLC story makes no sense REEEEE" shitposting.
If you pay attention, Radahn accepts a desperate proposal by Miquella by giving him a challenge, an honorable death and resurrection.
Radhan's entire character is being a great conqueror akin to Godfrey, Miquella's proposal is basically unrealistic and beneath him, he gave Miquella a Sisyphean task as evidence that he is worthy of godhood, and this may very well be a simple result of Miquella's ability to force people to like him to begin with.

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>>729112680
Miquella brainwashed him with his boypussy golden faggot magic, the bastard even bewitched his own sister, HIS OWN SISTER YOU FUCKING NIGGER!

If you ever get in the path of Miquella, your heart and asshole will get stolen... He truly was the most fearsome of them all

>>729112485
>>729112521
I see, then the list of relatives he can drag into this is short.
>Godwyn - deadest guy in the world
>Ranni - doll/also Empyrean
>Reykard - snaked
>Omen brothers - cursed
>souless demigod - is soulless
not sure why Messmer wasn't an option

>>729112680
there is no implication to sex of any kind

>>729104150
your shield?? your endure?? your guard counters?? your jump attacks??

>>729113668
So if a man (your brother, no less) asked you to marry him, your response would be "lol ok sure little dude haha wouldn't it be funny if I actually accepted accepted tho lmao like what if" and that totally doesn't make you homosexual? I'm sorry but your favorite character takes it up the ass, consensually, there's no way around it

>They managed to jump the shark with the first DLC they made
>They then fucked off and made a multiplayer asset flip
Alright, I guess im not the target audience anymore

>>729114049
Seeing how Mohg was obsessed with creating a "dynasty" with Miquella, he probably actually did want to fuck and mpreg Miquella somehow. And if that's how Moghwyn would've worked, there's no reason to assume the Age of Compassion wouldn't have worked the same. We've never seen an Elden Lord-Empyrean regime that didn't involve making babies for successors

>>729114163
If my brother had magic charming abilities to the point where I was compelled to not hurt his feelings, yeah that sounds like something I'd do.

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Miquella my love.

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>>729101706
OH NO
GAY SEX BY NOBILITY IN MY MEDIEVAL FANTASY

Read a history book nigger.

>>729111268
Radahn also did not fight Morgott alone so that point is moot

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>>729101706
He was tricked and mind-controlled

>>729114470
Get off 4chan, Radahn

>>729114049
>no implication of sex
Except the very basis of the word 'consort', you bookless nigbrain

>>729101706
lol'd, though if we're going with gameplay as a guideline, he's a power bottom.

>>729114334
>We've never seen an Elden Lord-Empyrean regime that didn't involve making babies for successors
Gay sex can produce babies? If Miquela can can gb it's no longer gay, no matter how you look at it.
Or Ranni is also the product of gay sex, between two women.

>>729113757
In the base game, there's a cut quest where (You) could be Miquella's consort but who knows why it got axed
Still mad they axed Kalé's quest, that voice actor did such an amazing job and it's criminal that his work got cut

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>Get offered a Fantasy world that operates entirely on metaphor/meta logic and magic.
>One brothers offer to combine into 1 being and become god.
>The other brother says he will accept if Miquella can best him in a war because all he really cares about is conquering.
>Miquella appears to be repeating Marika's mistakes.
>Radahn appears to be committing to Godfrey's as well (the guy who had to use Serosh to suppress his violent urges).
>"Errrm so they're like gay homosexual incest fags right? They do it in the butt with their penises??"
America's dogshit education system has ruined the entire world. There was nothing romantic about the union at all.

>>729114971
Anon, the same person split in half had children together (cursed children, sure, but still viable offspring)

>>729103259
Remnant method, where you have multiple styles of flask and you can even have nonstandard forms of healing where the flask is less curative and more buff related.

>>729114971
So you're telling me if you marry a guy and he temporarily shapeshifts into a woman purely for the sake of conceiving and bearing your children, that isn't gay? That is INCREDIBLY fucking gay. It's still a guy. He still has the memories, personality, and psychology of a male. He just changed his appearance and gave himself a functioning womb

>>729115204
i still think its boring there with how you can just run out of them
i would rather have a more dynamic and back-and-forth healing mechanic. i liked how hollow knight and silksong did it
>getting hit too many times at the beginning of the fight doesnt feel like your attempt is already ruined
>getting your health from low to high isnt trivial, not like in souls where you drink a flask and instantly get full
>specially in silksong theres way more ways to build and weaponize the healing mechanic, such as the witch crest

>>729115072
And Radagon(Marika) fucked Rennala making Ranni.

>>729115570
Yes. That's gay. Well, it was gay of Marika. Rennala didn't know any better. She got catfished

I didn't like radahn's original fight, nor did I like his twinkfucker fight. I also think his lore is dumb, and elden ring lore is dumb. But I can't stop fucking playing this game despite how much I hate it.

The fact that a lot of people on /v/ collectively convinced themselves that early leaked DLC footage of consort radahn was a mod was fucking hilarious. It was straight up humiliating when it turned out to not only be real, but worse than you could possibly imagine to the point where he looks both like a modded boss fight but also that it should be in a completely different game altogether because of how much shit is on screen. It's a fucking parody of a fight. /v/ was humbled that day.

>>729105635
miquella found something else to ride, if you catch my drift

>>729101706
It makes no fucking sense that a strong and masculine knight like him is a homosexual.

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>>729112680
this is canon

no they didn't
they did that to miquella who is blatantly brainwashing radahn who by every indication does not want it

>>729115569
Silksongs healing is a little weird due to the high amount of damage the average enemy and even environmental hazard can cause. If you don’t have the time to heal at least 2 masks then it’s usually not worth it to try to heal. Meanwhile hollow knight 1 mask was the standard and more than that meant an enemy was considered more dangerous.

>>729115805
>what is a bear
Do you think male homosexuality is just a bunch of twinks fucking each other?

>>729101706
>Mohg resurrects himself using the body of Radahn
>People keep thinking it's actually Radahn

>>729115831
miquella loses his brainwashing power halfway through the dlc

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I don't have any issues with the lore behind Miquella and Radahn, but the fight is unforgivably shit.
Would have liked the DLC to focus more on Nanaya and the chaos flame too.

>>729115828
mmmm kissy kissy

>>729115910
You can still get brainwashed by him by getting grabbed twice in the fight. He doesn't lose it.

>>729115910
and radahn is dead right until the end when miquella puts his soul in mohg's body

>>729115919
>Nanaya
Literally a homosexual Satan-worshipping Jew catfishing some poor old man

>>729115863
yeah, its very overtuned in silksong at the beginning, i suspect the game was balanced around people who had mastered all of HK1, so they can still feel engaged by it
You can hard counter a lot of the games' difficulty by using the plasmium overdose, which is basically a much stronger version of Hiveblood, makes exploring trivial and makes the crests with gimmick heals (witch and beast) extremely powerful. But sadly outside of steel soul its only possible to overdose in act 3 or by using the architect crest

>>729115919
>I'm dying Nanaya
Pretty sure that weapon is supposed to simultaneously heal you with holy energy while you're impaled based on its description.

>>729115896
Have you ever seen a military type of guy that’s very masculine, honored and loves war and combat being gay? That’s exactly the same as a knight from medieval fucking times being gay, it just doesn’t happen, it makes no sense.

>>729116123
you're correct but his brain eventually dies

>>729115910
Wait, so Miquella The Kind was never good to begin with? He was just brainwashing people?

>>729116386
he was doing it for a good cause

>>729116279
Uh, yeah. Fucking Frederick the Great? The Sacred Band of Thebes? Zeus? Arguably, Alexander the Great?

>>729116386
He is genuinely good-intentioned (and honestly, his Age of Compassion is the best option presented in Elden Ring), but he literally purged himself of empathy and became a sociopath. So he HAD empathy, he just willingly surrendered it

>>729101706
>radahn power scalerfag can't into reading comprehension

Do you actually meet Miquella in the DLC or does he show up only as the final boss? I just started the DLC and only defeated the Knight of Solitude so far.

Miquella and Radahn are a parallel to Lothric and Lorian, it has nothing to do with faggotry, you retards. Miyazaki always reuse ideas from previous games.

>>729103161
nah, the after image attacks and the light pillars/AOEs after the pontiff comb are indefensible.

So who's stronger in the end lorewise, Radahn or Malenia?

>>729116386
No. The only one who was good was Godwyn the Golden. He actually made peace through mutual respect and diplomacy.

Miquella snapped when Godwyn died. He thought that becoming a god was super important, while in his St. Trina form (a duplex like Marika and Radagon) he gave "comfort" of sleep to people, which is implied to be death through poison. Miquella even brainwashed Mohg. When the spell finally breaks everyone who followed him has to decide if they believe in a world where literally nothing is seen as evil and every act is accepted is worth it considering Miquella wants to brainwash people into being in love with every idea at once.

Incest, rape, murder, grafting, jar rites, blasphemy, all of them will be good because nobody will be allowed to deny that they're good under Miquella.

>>729114694
Why is Ranni so small? She was tall as fuck, she was as big as Malenia.

>>729116386
compelling affection =/= brainwashing

>>729116582
he didn't purge himself of empathy tho. he removed "his love" whatever that entails whether St. Trina or an emotion of a kind. His age of compassion is based on Agape (selfless, unconditional divine love) either way in it's first action. He's sacrificing himself to the benefit of others

>>729116810
No attack is indefensible in those games.

>>729116634
He's only the final boss. But the personification of his love, St. Trina (basically the Radagon to his Marika) is an NPC you can chat with

>>729116842
Radahn used his own magical prowess, Malenia borrowed power from an Eldritch god.
Is fairness a factor in comparing them here?

>>729116913
I feel like love and empathy are basically the same thing in this context

>>729116842
Radahn was even stronger in the beginning, Malenia lost and ragenuked the place. She couldn't win even with that, it just drove Radahn crazy after a while but he still was able to establish routes to counter the rot god's influence and direct the redmanes until he eventually went feral at the very end.

>>729116989
Goddess of Rot Malenia would buttrape Radahn lmao get fucked

>>729116810
>are indefensible.
i defended them with my shield

i thought the afterimage attacks were really funny, they dealt like minuscle damage but stunned you and made it tricky to land certain kinds of counters and tanking maneuvers. just seemed pretty creative

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>been playing for eight hours
>still haven't got a clue what I'm meant to be doing

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>>729116885
Radahn is like 15 feet tall. Even prime lanklet Ranni was only 7 or so

>>729117091
Do you also think the Predator won against Arnie in the first Predator movie?

>>729116880
>>729116979
I never understood that "Radagon is Marika" shit, how could they have had children then?

>>729117150
Wrong thread or are you retarded?

>>729112874
>He's as gay as Elton John. For once, this is not "muh NTR" schizo shitposting like with God of War. For a plot as cryptic and opaque as Elden Ring, the one thing that's for certain is that Radahn and Miquella are flaming homosexuals
Only miquella is.

>>729117158
Radahn became that big because of the great rune, he wasn't as gigantic before that.

>>729101706
I didn't like this character though
Using gravity to ride the horse is pointless too, let your horse rest you cunt

I have my gripes with Elden Ring, but holy shit I fucking love its lore, it's so extensive, so mysterious and so fucking deep, I hope George helps with the lore of Elden Ring 2 as well, his influence could definitely be felt.

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>>729116885
>>729117158
Prime Radahn does indeed tower over the likes of Malenia

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>>729115919
>Jewish inspired evil chaotic entity worshipped by (((merchants))) summoned to destroy the people who genocided them.
>Manifests through a man tricked by a cultist who convinced him to endure self-inflicted torment for who knows how long until he goes mad.
>Wields the source of his own torment (the barbs) and becomes host to the entity who wants to end the entire world.
what did Miyazaki mean by this?
And on a completely unrelated note isn't it weird Israel would proudly quote Hitler to justify their actions?

>>729117198
There's another example of this phenomenon in the game: the two D brothers. Two physically separate people but one entity

>>729117198
Super inbreeding. That's why Malenia, Miquella, Messmer, and Melina were all born with crippling birth defects. They're basically freakish homuculus clones of Marika

>>729101706
its your fault for thinking consort strictly means a husband or wife you dumb assz

>>729117453
But one of the 4 meanings says husband/wife, so it has to be the ONLY meaning!

>>729117421
>Melina
Huh? When is that ever revealed? I thought she was related to Ranni or something.

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>People call the genre rollslop
>Final boss completely shits on rollsloppers

>>729117536
How are you supposed to defeat him then when the dodge mechanic is the only defensive option you have?

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>>729117198
Literally every single NPC and boss in the entire game has a duplicate, doppelganger, twin, ghostly emanation etc.
The entire theme of the game is Duality which is a core concept of spiritual Alchemy.

>>729117523
It's never explicitly said, but in the DLC, Melina is said to be Messmer's sister, and Messmer is clearly Radagon's son since he's his spitting image

>>729117523
Anon...
How the fuck did you miss that

>>729116842
Radahn's sole presence alters fate itself (Ranni's questline) and that's without being an Empyrean or an Outer God Messiah like Malenia is

>>729117505
What are the other meanings?

>>729117612
I know this post is being overtly obtuse, but there are people that legitimately believe this because they play every singke FromSoft game like it's DS3 (probably because DS3 was their introduction to this genre).

>>729116913
>His age of compassion is based on Agape (selfless, unconditional divine love)
A Japanese game where the entire story is just a criticism of Christianity and you kill God in the end. Lol, why am I not surprised? Miyazaki is a fucking hack.

>>729114990
>no two finger fight
>no animations of them literally finger boxing

missed opportunity

>>729117620
Tell me more about that bro, that's so deep

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>>729117630
Do you think Melina could be Messmer's other half like Miquella and St. Trina and Marika and Radagon?

>>729117904
no it's said he's her sister

>>729117763
Alright, then tell me how am I supposed to beat those bosses without rolling, you just dodged the question, am I supposed to tank the attacks? To raise my shield? Well, a lot of those endgame bosses OHKOs you or make shield builds useless with their 8-hit long combos, so both of those options are useless then, how am I supposed to defeat them without rolling?

>>729105108
he is clearly eating one of malenia's twinrot knights retard

>>729117904
If that's the case who's Ranni's other half?

>>729117904
Honestly yeah, there's gotta be SOMETHING special about Melina. Her having purple hair as opposed to red or blonde is too conspicuous. Not to mention being a short manlet. Before the DLC, the consensus was that Marika was the one and only pure clone of Marika, shat out all by herself, without even needing Radagon's sperm. Kinda like how Malenia mitosis'd into Millicent. But the DLC debunked that by explicitly calling Melina Messmer's sister

>>729118112
The person she introduces herself as when she gives you the bell
Renna, the snow witch

How do you guys know so much about the lore of this game? Is there any YouTube channel you can recommend for that stuff?

>>729117724
you never heard someone say “dont consort with those people”? as an example? no wonder you /v fags cant grasp the story of Elden Ring, you are literally too stoopid and cant grasp a story unless its told in a way akin to a disney movie lmao.

>>729117612
Blocking and guard counters or shield poking shits on every single DLC boss and most of the main game

>>729118187
Why are there so many parallels between Ranni and Melina then?

>>729118193
Read the item descriptions and have an autistic amount of pattern recognition+memory

>>729118193
its really simple to understand the lore of elden ring. the issue arises when someone tries to fill holes which dont need to be filled with their own wild fantasies and speculations.

>>729117198
Start thinking in terms of horticulture. Their children are branches of the same stem. The steak formed when Radagon and Marika were interwoven at their creation. The whole of Enir-Ilim is about this process. We see the jar ritual as a crude imitation of this process and grafting as a crude imitation of the jar ritual. It's crucible shit.

>>729118227
After blocking 3 hits from most of those bosses your stamina gets completely depleted.

>>729118041
Just use a shield you FUCKING retard. Rollslopper streamers were a mistake. They need to bring back Adaptability so you have to spec into rolling around everything with infinite dodgerolls just like tanks have to spec into heavy armor.

>>729101706
I don't play dogshit games, thankfully

>>729118193
Tarnished Archeologist is my favorite because he uses real life archeology examples and find Miyazaki's influences and subtle hints in statues, reliefs, paintings along with item descriptions to make parallels between real-world mythology and what Elden Ring is (probably) inspired by.
His videos can be a little bit long or meandering, but it's worth watching.
https://youtu.be/A6xpSdbJfv4

>>729118292
But for that to work you'd have to have every weapon and item in the game, otherwise you will have an incomplete lore in your head.

>>729118281
Don't think about it too hard, the DLC shits on the original lore anyway

>>729118436
Yeah, that'a why you have to play the game yourself

>>729118353
>t. didn't use shield talisman+stam regen
You can even add a few more defensive talismans to this. If you have a big enough shield, you literally never have to roll. Add in a weapon that can poke from behind shield and the game is turbo ez mode.

>>729116386
The desire to become wholly separate from Marika's divinity was kind of destructive.
He was probably better off becoming Elden Lord.

>>729118112
Hyetta

>>729118221
>uses the verb form instead of the noun form
ESL retard. Do you also think the verb "fish" means the same as the noun "fish"

>>729118492
There's a shield that regenerates stamina faster? I remember there was one like that in DS1.

>>729118041
Shield or Deflecting Hardtear. I beat him with the latter using a katana and deflecting the bulk majoirty of his attacks. Most of the others you can literally job out of range of and punish.

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>>729118396
Elden Ring is literally unironically the greatest game ever conceived though

>>729118560
Hyetta is literally a spirit piloting Irina's corpse

>>729113757
Messmer is even more cursed than the Omen and Rykard, he's a snake in a human body.

>>729118608
There is a Talisman that will regerate your stamina faster than you can physically spend it.

>>729118112
Godwyn. Miquella and St. Trina are also considered brother and sister yet also one entity.
Marika's like a baby factory that can only birth twins (or maybe the entire Lands Between is like that).

Symbolically, Ranni's four arms and two faces represent her being a duality inhabiting one body, both are Ranni. She attained freedom from duality by becoming the duality in a different way than other Empyreans.

>>729104376
This artist is such a fucking cocktease. Such a great artstyle but he always covers up the nudity.

>>729118589
it was used in a correct manner you are just a fucking idiot lmao.
as my father thiught me, do not consort with nigger faggots such as yourself.

>>729118608
There is but don't use it for shield builds. Listen anon this really isn't that hard of a concept. Retards just think rolling is the only way to play because le epic no hit streamers play naked and spend ten thousand hours memorizing boss patterns
>if you want to roll around everything
lightest equip load possible for max i-frames. stack damage talismans to make fights end quicker so you don't get bonked
>if you want to block everything
most stamina+equip load and BIGGEST shield with highest defenses and guard boost possible for max block potential. stack defensive talismans like the one that makes you use less stamina on blocks and other attribute defensive talismans relevant to boss attribute you're fighting. twin headed turtle talisman for stam recovery
>hybrid
some mix of the two so you can do a combination of roll and block as needed. shields smaller than the tower shields go here.

>>729118876
>Godwyn
>Ranni
>twins
I don't think you know what a twin is, anon

>>729118719
What the hell? Where can I find it?

>>729119008
Marika didn't birth Ranni
That's not what that anon meant at all

>>729119008
In the Lands Between it's a very different matter. Two people from opposite ends of the world are essentially twins (doppelgangers) and may not even meet.
She found out Godwyn was her twin and killed him to kill herself and free her of the TWO fingers influence.

>>729118692
I'm glad you're starting to see the parallels.

>>729118946
Consort, in the form of a noun, only has one definition: the spouse of a monarch. The verb forms are irrelevant. It's not used as a verb in Elden Ring, only as a noun

>>729119000
>lightest equip load possible for max i-frames.
But what about poise? I heard it's pretty important to have poise above 51 in this game, minimum armor gives low poise.

>>729119217
if you're playing a dodge-twink you really should not be trading anyway so poise is useless. if you're getting hit you're doing it wrong.

Why are some twins born entirely separate and live different lives and some inhabit one body? The fact the Marika is Radagon thing is never expanded on beyond that (what came first, chicken or the egg?) drives me mad.

>>729119000
What shields do you recommend?

>>729119157
no need to keep proving what a smooth brianed faggot you are bro.

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>People just decided lvl150 was the "meta level" despite Vigor being expected to hit 60, Endurance hitting it's sweet spot at 30, and main stats capping out at 80
150 levels dedicated to just pumping 3 stats to their expected end points isn't a "build" you retarded apes, and hitting 150 happens before you can even hit the final 1/4th of the core game, let alone DLC. The game clearly expects you to push to lvl200 to actually do some interesting shit or to push Endurance or Mind up for heavier armor or mkre FP if that's your thing.

>>729116880
>He thought that becoming a god was super important,
he was destined to become a god, miquella until passing thorough the divine gate is in his nascent state. his curse is one of unfulfilled potential. his attempt of removing malenia's rot and reducing the influence outer gods, made progress but ultimately weren't completed. miquella's attempt to grow an alternate tree for those rejected by the golden order made progress but failed. miquella's godhood was his last gambit but failed there too

>while in his St. Trina form (a duplex like Marika and Radagon) he gave "comfort" of sleep to people
St. Trina's lilies are dropped by cleanrot knights in caelid, they're still alive. their lilies dulled their senses and helped them fight. but trina's powers became more deadly but as miquella moved closer to godhood. I wonder if this was another motivation for miquella abandoning trina in the cave...

and pretty much the whole gang either agrees to join or sympathises with miquella's goal. anbach's loyalty to mohg and tholier's love for trina make them oppose miquella they don't think of him evil. if you side with leda ansbach apologises to both mohg and miquella on his death

>rape, murder
these are directly in opposition to the age he wants to create.look at bloodcultist ansbach, he's no longer wound crazy while following miquella. and as for blasphemy, miq's extending an arm to those outside of the golden order such as alburnics and misbegotten.

>>729119284
if you need to ask just use the fingerprint shield of shame and call it a day

>>729119284
nta but Banished Knight's, Brass, Serpent Crest and Wolf Crest all have respectable Guard Boost while also being Medium shields. I use them in combination with rolling and jumping to bumble my retarded ass through the game.

>>729119279
Radagon is simply Marika's alter ego that became self-aware and rebelled against her. A split personality, one could say. I don't think there are any other examples of that sort of phenomenon happening in-universe. Any parallels one could draw are purely thematic and not literal

>>729117453
In general English youre correct but in Elden Ring "consort" is basically a keyword with marital implications whenever its used in basegame so its safe to assume the same applies when the dlc uses it.
That being said I don't think there's actually any romantic implications between Radahn and Miquella. I think their agreement is more of a pragmatic pact and "marriage" aspect is mostly just alchemy symbolism autism taken literally, the same as Marikagon.

>>729119442
Miquella and St. Trina? They were literally one person until Miquella dumped her in a hole.

>>729119372
yeah no. if you're going above 120 on the first new game cycle you're overleveled. period. 150 is for NG+. anything higher and you're just dadgamer maxxing and don't have to take any hits to stats. that's not a build. that's just hitting cap on as many stats as you can

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>>729119365
I accept your concession

>>729119436
HORRIBLE suggestions. If you're doing a full block build you need a giant shield, not one of these limp wrist things. These suggestions are for hybrid builds

>>729119514
Levels cap out at max stats in everything.
You never stop gaining runes.
You can keep levelling forever.
I spit on buildfaggotry.

>>729119508
They don't share a body the way Radagon and Marika do, and Trina represents a specific part of Miquella's soul: his love. To our knowledge, Radagon doesn't represent any specific part of Marika. He's literally just Marika but a man. Though I guess you could argue he represents Marika's loyalty to the Elden Beast. Point is, the soul-splitting is clearly a different mechanic

>>729119601
> These suggestions are for hybrid builds
yeah?
Read the rest of my post you dumb nigger. Don't make me rape you.

I wish the areas after Messmer's castle have more enemies to whack. It felt too sparse, not enough niggas to beat up and loot their stuff.

>>729119398
>>729119436
What ash of war should I put in them?

>>729101706
when Miquella and Radahn grab you, you literally are told itll be 1000 year voyage of compassion, mocking the bible and the 1000 year release of satans prison.

>>729119514
what? I was like 180 on my first playthrough, and that was without farming for runes, just playing and spending whatever I had, game clearly gives you way more easy levels than just 120, where the hell do you get that from

>>729119602
Okay so you're not building, you're just a geriatric dadgamer. That's fine, but there's a reason they lock "people" like you out of playing multiplayer with 90% of the players

>>729119372
150 is the recommended level? I stopped leveling up at 135 in order to maximize being summoned.

>>729119679
If you want more block power, Barricade. I put No Skill on mine so I can use my right hand's ash of war most of the time though.
You only really need a greatshield for a handful of bosses. I only ever used one for Consort Radahn.

>>729119672
Anon was asking for a full-block build mien nigger.
>>729119679
Barricade shield, make sure to refresh it before every block chain on bosses. Using it counts as a block too.

>>729119684
I fucking hate those retarded atheist japs

>>729119707
After 120/150 you should be spending runes on consumables. Unless you don't care about multiplayer or making a build at all and just want to dadmaxx then by all means keep leveling.

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>>729119836
>Anon was asking for a full-block build mien nigger.
He asked for shield recs, I gave him some and explained I was going hybrid. Eat my jorts and shit them out and then eat them again.

>>729119496
it literally just means a pact, simple as. stop being a faggot

>>729119836
No, I wanna make a hybrid roll+block.

>>729119969
>source: my gaping cum-filled ass
Cute headcanon though

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>character literally gets infested with god-AIDS
>retcon him to fuck a trap that's more or less directly associated with the god of AIDS
I mean

>>729120029
Then the other melanin-enriched anon gave you perfectly suitable suggestions. If you're making a hybrid build you basically want to slap on the best shield you can get that can work in your equip load range. You should still try to get the biggest one you can get if you want to block more than one or two hits. If you're going for a lighter hybrid the shield is basically just a safety net you hold up in case you botch a roll

Is this the Kirby Air Riders thread?

>>729119514
You're a retarded fucking ape if you sincerely think half the equipment in this game exists and you're just supposed to "stop" leveling at 120. You can't even Castermax your 80 INT until investing 40 points into DEXTERITY just to sling your shit faster than a snail, and that's only after using a Talisman slot to further push your csst speed.

>Youtube lorefags and minmax faggots out in full force
Alright, cya fags.

>>729119514
Malenia and Mohg would literally give you 10 levels each at lvl120. Some regular enemies give you nearly 5k runes each, and you only need 90k runes at lvl120. You'd have to push yourself not to level past that on a regular play through.

>>729120315
And? Mages SHOULD have to compromise having lower in other stats if they just want to hit fucking CAP in int and cast speed. You retards seem to think capping a stat is mandatory in every build. It's simply not.

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>>729116842
>>729117085
>>729117706
>Locked in stalemate, and then the Scarlet Rot bloomed
They were equal before she used the Scarlet Aeonia.

We stopped the 120 vs. 150 discussion after SOTE dropped and made 150 the de facto cap.

>>729120417
Then why didn't the game make the max level 150?

If you
>leveled above 130
>used summons
>used the blasphemous blade
>used a pure int build
>used an arcane/faith build
>searched for tips online
>searched for builds online
you unironically didn’t beat the game.

>>729118634
TRVKE

t. HUGE melly fan

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>Missed the serpent crest shield my first playthrough.
>Probably pairs well with Rakshasa armor too
fuck it looks good. I'll have to rush back to the shadow lands in NG+ to nab it.

>>729119656
Radagon physically embodies ruin but embodies pious belief in the Golden Order, contrary to Marika.

>>729120496
For old people and normalfaggots, obviously. It's been like this since Demon Souls anon. If you want to play with other people and not exclusively havelmages, you stop at 120/150. Everything above that and everyone has the heaviest armor in the game with max stats spamming spells

>>729120479
Proof?

>>729105108
He threw up. Don't eat horses

I would have preferred a real radagon/Marika fight or Godwyn or a prime Malenia or Melina/Ranni or some Greater Will 9 phase boss gauntlet

>>729120591
>used a pure int build
That's way harder than unga bunga jump attacks with two-handed great hammers. Have you tried to kill bosses like Malenia and Promised Consort Radahn without summons purely with spells?

>>729120813
you already fight peak malenia. goddess of rot malenia is literally the strongest she's ever been.

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>>729120417
>Playing a full caster at full power
>Need to make "tradeoffs" to artificially keep his lvl low simply because the internet told him so
>Completely ignores how Quality builds don't even fucking function until you're dumped 55 points into both Strength and Dex, eating up 100 levels of your 150 before even touching a single point into Vigor or Endurance
>Multiple pieces of equipment don't even match some of their contemporaries until you've dumped 50 points into THREE main stats just to break even to dumping 80 into one
You stupid niggers are legit too dumb for words and just assume because 120 was standard in previous FromSoft games (where caps were 30 fucking points lower) that it somehow applies here as well for no reason at all.

>>729103161
It's a bad boss because it's basically a DS3 boss on steroids where the best play is to only press roll and r1, unless you're playing a mage. Despite what shitters say, limiting yourself to only roll and r1 is the worst thing you can do with your average ER boss, but promised consort is not like that.

>>729120858
Unga bunga retards think their playstyle is the hardest for some reason.
The game actively gets harder the more you engage with its mechanics and boss movesets. It's actually easier to just turn your brain off and jump r2

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>>729120679
Right here

>>729120902
You can't into builds, it's fine. That's why they have level ranges for multiplayer, so people with proper builds don't have to interact with your stat cap dadgamer characters.

>>729120858
Pure int is the second best build in the entire game, nigger, only losing to arcane/faith.

>>729120813
>"Ever-young Miquella saw things for what they were. He knew that his bloodline was tainted. His roots mired in madness. A tragedy if ever there was one. That he would feel compelled to renounce everything. When the blame... lay squarely with the mother."
we'll kill godwyn, malenia and ranni in elden ring 2 sooon(never)

first 2 will be tragic, the last triumphant

>>729120896
I mean like a powered up "Golden" Malenia.
Yunonateba we glowen, gonna be gonna be golden

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These are the players that say that if you used INT or FTH you didn't beat the game, and that STR is pure skill.

>>729121050
So basically you want noncanon fanfiction? There are mods for that.

>>729121030
That's a no then? You haven't tried to fight Promised Consort Radahn without summons with pure ranged spellcasting. Let me guess, Antspur rapier with Fingerprint shield?

>>729121060
Holy fuck, I didn’t know the Claymore was that good.

>>729121060
how do I use str faith against mesmer? my prayerful strike and ordovis sword is too slow?

>>729121060
Just look at this webm man holy shit this is why I love Elden Ring, you can come up with a multitude of different ways for defeating bosses using just your creativity and the game's mechanics, that's just amazing

>>729121015
>Proper build
>It's just another Bleedmaxfaggot or STR staggerspam slopfest where you stack Flame Grant Me Strength or Golden Vow using the same 5 weapons everyone else uses because they scale better with one stat over the others
Embarassing. There is a reason diminishing returns, weight limits, and spell slots exist. Stopping at 150 is abysmally boring and derivative.

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>Free Reign mod so I can fight Dreglord and Balancers without an hour runback with 2 retards
>They're great fights
PUT. THIS. SHIT. IN. THE. BASE. GAME. FUUUUUUUUUUU

>>729121094
Correct. It would be more interesting than Radahn again but actually he's in mohgs body and he doesn't use gravity magic because miquella his hypnomindrapebrotherboyfriend.

>>729121260
He does use gravity magic THOUGHeverbeit

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>>729120947
shields? poise? jump attacks? guard counters? deflecting hardtear?
i really dislike ds3 and dont you dare pool elden ring bosses with that shit

>>729121319
I mean more than just hucking rocks

>>729121194
What are your stats? I also have a str/fth build but I don’t know if I might've specced too much into faith since I only use Flame, Grant Me Strength, Golden Vow and Black Flame Protection. My stats are:
>Vig: 50
>End: 30
>Str: 55
>Dex: 18
>Fth: 35
Should I change this?

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>>729121249
>he's not even arguing for 150
>he's arguing for leveling O V E R 150
holy kek. embarrassing. uncgamers everyone.

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>>729101706
It wasnt by his own choice. Miquella mindbroke him like he did with mohg.

>>729121456
Lmaooooo thats insane

>>729121339
how many times do you think he's died to get this webm?

>>729105450
>Everyone thought the DLC was gonna involve Godwyn somehow
No. That was always retarded. Godwyn's entire story in the base game is that there is nothing more to him.
The entire plot twist tied to him is that there is no twist. Even at the very end, Fia the Deathbed Companion fakes Godwyn intervention, making it clear that it was all a ruse or a delusional wish that had no merit.
Godwyn is truly no more. Was the answer the base game provided. All that Godwyn was, lies in the past.
The premise of the game might have started with Godwyn, but it also marked his end.

>>729121194
I literally beat Messmer first try with Prayerful Strike and I am not kidding. That shit is broken with enough poise and healing.

>>729105835
>It should have been me damnit.
Getting plapped or plapping?

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>>729117421
Messmer isnt really Marika's hes adopted. Thats why he has a fake golden eye, compare that to how Ansbach describes Miquella's eyes:
>Well, I am much obliged. I can hardly believe it, he's divested himself of his very eye…
>Tender Miquella's eye is no mere morsel of flesh. It is a vessel of soaring grace. Proof of his Empyrean lineage. I wonder, does Miquella the Kind intend to sever his very birthright? His fate as a child of the Erdtree?
So he's not fucked up because incest he's got other problems.
As for Melina, Boc's questline tells us she wasnt born the traditional way and doesnt have a "mother" in a strict sense. Obviously we dont know the details but her problems most likely aren't related to radagon marika self-esteem either.

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>>729121556
Probably a lot.

>>729121395
He also does the gravity pull, flying, and the gravity shards that rip out of the ground.

>>729121579
This guy again, Radahn2 flopped and shitted, noone likes him. Get over it.
Cancer Godwyn was spreading, you can narratively justify it easily and just say his essence is grown into the scadutree, it makes more sense than Radahns FUCKING DEAD ghost got hypnotized by Miquella on the Haligtree project 2.0

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I just want to share that I replayed DS2 again and the Ivory King fight is still goated. Thanks for reading. I will dismiss myself.

>>729121749
What weapon is he using? That's fucking sick.

>>729121424
>Start as Hero
>Vig to 60
>End to 30
>Str to 80
>You are now lvl.135 simply hitting basic caps in your average 3 stats
Anon, this is literal monkey brain shit and will be the most boring shit imaginable.

>>729121397
>Vig: 60
>End: 30
>Str: 65
>Dex: 22
>Fth: 45

for me

>>729121602
the heck by the time I use the ash of war I'm always trading at a loss

>>729121790
NTA but Godwyn and Gloamelina are obviously being saved for a sequel. They probably didn't want to cram 3 characters stories in one dlc so they opted to just flesh out Miquella

>>729121924
Holy shit, what level are you? You’re supposed to stop leveling up at 150, man.

>>729121790
Not to mention that we don't know what happens to souls when they die
The land of shadow could have had that answer. Godwyn's dead soul was without a body (until Mogh and Miquella theoretically arranged one for him)