>>729103398That GBA charm (see earrape)
>>729103398Dread is better, eat shit.>>729103468Kek
>>729103398atmosphere, good story, good dialogue, good characters, innovative abilities,
>>729103398Music, good level design, and a focus on adding distracting mechanics over simply running with the fusion refinement of super for a handheld (free aim/gay counter button)
>>729103398Is this and Zero Mission worth playing? I still have sealed copies of them lying around I bought for $15 on clearance in around 2004.
>>729103398Aside from semi-charming spritework, nothing.Dread is an objective upgrade over Fusion in pretty much every way. Combat, progression, level design, world design, bosses, story, etc.It's an absolute mogging.
>>729103632Yes but zero mission has an awful stealth sequence at the end.
>>729103667tiktok brain, dread is terrible
>>7291033It didn’t. Both are excellent.
>>729103398A restricted and curated path through the world with scripted emmis. Fusion is unparalleled with how it makes you feel on the first run through the game, you never know when the SA X is going to show up and it’s always threatening every time it does because it’s easy to die to but also easy to avoid. The emmis forewarn you of where they are and then force you to constantly run through their area and die to them to the point where they stop being a threat and start being an annoying gameplay feature.
>>729103632only NEStroid and M2 are skippable
>>729103563>atmospherearguable but very subjective>good story>good dialogue>good charactersLMAOFusion's story is terrible, walls of poorly written mucho texto, only beaten out by Other M.>innovative abilitiesObjectively untrue.Fusion has a single new ability which is barely used (diffusion missile), everything else is a bad rehash of Super. Dread was way more innovative.
>>729103632Yes, they're very fun.
>>729103398fusion has a better story scenario that it fully commits to. dread is a jack of all trades that tries to balance a standard light sci-fi adventure with occasional horror elements and it's just pretty weak in that regard.
>>729104024Dread only added Flash Shift. Invisibility was useless/for fags and Storm Missiles were Seeker Missiles with a different name.
>>729103698Nahhhh bro. I played Zero Mission yesterday for the first time in 21 years or whatever and when you get to the stealth section you're like wuttt. But then it kicks back in and it's a power tripping fantasy. Very "kino" as the young whippersnappers say
>>729103765>tiktok brainProjection from a retarded phoneposter who can barely shit out 5 words instead of making a real argument.
>>729103398Being actually fun.Yakuza and Nightmare alone are cooler and funner bosses than any of Dread's simon-says garbage.Both are linear, but Dread has absolutely no thought put into its world. There are very convenient teleports that take you EXACTLY where you need to go, plus there are doors for literally every fucking beam type. It's like it was made for toddlers.Shit actually happens throughout Fusion. What happens in all of Dread? The first two areas get frozen, so everything is even more closed off than before?Oh, and Fusion doesn't copy-paste shit constantly.
>>729103398fusion:here's a thingdread:hey do you remember that thing? well here's a 20 minute section referencing it. pretty cool huh?dread is the better game but as an aesthetic experience it has some built in weaknesses being a halfhearted referential sequel. you're probably noticing this
>>729104291Same, also played it recently, except I had never played it before. The stealth section is very short, it's a cool sequence being in danger and having to get back the suit before you start kicking ass again. Can confirm if I were 45 years younger I'd call it "kino".
Reading these posts I can only conclude there's an obscene amount of nostalgic delusion involving Fusion.It's a hyper-linear inferior unoriginal copycat of Super that commits most of the major sins of Other M but with charming sprites instead of garish Wii 3D graphics.>>729104671What the fuck are you even talking about?Fusion is absolutely full of references to Super Metroid.Again, delusion.
>>729103398They're pretty close, but for me, music and visual style. Nothing from Dread really sticks out in my memory.Dread's great though, I like running from those robots more than running from S.A.X.
>>729103398Fusion had better atmosphere but Dread was a significantly better overall game.
>>729104024Nta but imma defend him.>atmosphereNaw dude this game has some of the best usage of music and effects in the whole series specifically because it is scripted. You can argue the audio and graphical fidelity but the timing and usage is top tier.>good story dialogue and charactersLiterally name one better one in the franchise. There’s argument for story on super prime prime 2 and 3, but dialogue is exactly as much as is needed here and there are 3 characters: Samus, Adam and the SA-X. All of them are at their absolute best too.>innovative abilitiesI would argue against him with you on this point, diffusion doesn’t have anything on the swarm missiles or the aeon flash. But the Beam feels batter to use than any other game and the addition of cold vulnerability is flavorful and fun.
>>729103398dread was better than fusion in every way except controlsshoulder buttons > 360* stick aiming
>>729105140>Literally name one better one in the franchise.NEStroid. Simply because it doesn't have constant talking and exposition. If I want that garbage, Uncharted is right over there.
>>729104815I'm talking about the lame x sequence that feels like a put upon burden, but also to an extent the emmis and the inclusion of adam. they aren't the core of the game and feel like they're fighting for space. through a story/aesthetic lens it comes off as tepid and unfocused.
>>729103563>zero mission at the bottomis this bait
>>729103398Soundtrack
>>729103398Love this game but it must be played on hard mode to actually be good.
>>729105642>garbage casualized remake that misses the point of the originalI see no issue with this.
>>729105642god I hate Zero Mission stans
I refuse to accept Dread as Metroid simply because it's 3D now. That was reserved for Prime spin-offs only
>>729104024>>729105140none of the atmosphere and story characters dialogue bits are arguable, you're retarded.>Fusion has a single new abilityit invented ledge grabbing, explained by the removal of the heavy power armor. there's the xparasites that can be absorbed to gain items, or new abilities, and if you let them dwell they form new enemies. without power armor ice becomes a threat, that's where the diffusion missiles come into play another in-universe explained change. Fusion is a tough little game where the enemies hit hard, and it's because no power suit.any other game after with a speedy Samus not even using speed booster & and shinespark makes no sense in-universe. ZM, Dread, asspull games corrupted by ludo narrative discord. see me after class, scrub.
>>729106636I tried to like it, but as much as I do enjoy parts of it, it feels too tryhard. Like it wants to be a marvel movie.
>>729106748man I wanted to absorb that core-x
>>729103563Swap Dread and original 2 and now we're talking
There’s no Ridley fight in Dread.
>>729103398Fusion didn't need 8 buttons to do simple actions.
>>729103398Good controls
Metroid 1 and II are bad cause there’s no gravity suit or gravity suit analog.
>>729107260there isnt one in fusion either
>>729107718thankfuly we have ZM and AM2R
>>729103398it had qtes and parrying, which are fucking lame. SA-X was way better than emmis
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>>729107943Yeah there is it’s right>>729108271Here
>>729103398Just music really
>>729106297>>729106352>t.
>>729108883thats an X parasite
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>>729103563Need to give fusion a replay. Preferred ZM as a kid but replayed that recently and can say I'm not a fan.
>>729103632Its alright but I don't like that you can't go back to 95% of the map after you get the power bomb, felt cheated
>>729103563literally what human being on earth finds Metroid NES enjoyable. Walking around empty copy pasted rooms fighting the same 5 enemies, and looking at a guide while you play to find the spot in the the ceiling to find MISSLE TANK. I say this as someone who enjoys the first Zelda. Metroid is historically significant but fucking sucks to play now.
Fusion has better boss fights, Dread really only has Raven Beak.Since MS wanted to remake Fusion and Nintendo does the odd small title now, I am surprised they didn't reskin Dread into a $30 Fusion remake on the e-Shop.
>>729113142There's a remake they remade it twice. Super is basically an expanded remake of 1.
>>729113142you need to have a high iq to appreciate Metroid
>>729103398An actual art style, music, and interesting environments.
