Are we witnessing the end of PC gaming as we know it?
Cloud gaming is the future
Where the fuck were you people during crypto? Is this honestly your first time?
>>729106142Anyone that can afford $999 of RAM is too rich for me to sympathize with.
Are you so retarded that think that consoles won´t be affected too?>>729106307>Where the fuck were you people during crypto?Probably shitposting like this too.
>>729106307crypto is not even close to comparable to the current ai boom we're experiencing
>>729106307during crypto gpus only went up maybe 50%, this isn't anywhere near comparable.You could at least mention 'rona to be slightly less disingenuous
>>729106538Identical symptoms, but it's not comparable because, uhhh, I need drama.Get a fucking grip.
we're witnessing a huge spike in demand for certain things that will not go on forever unless they somehow make tons of datacenters year after year.once it settles down, demand will still be higher but not as high. However the prices will NOT go back down since people are STILL going to pay the ridiculous prices, signaling to the companies that theres no need to lower the price back down.
>>729106142Where is the proof for this? Does the user post any documentation?
>>729106532consoles will be impacted to a lesser extent than us, people who buy consumer grade parts for their custom PC builds.sony, tendy, and xbox will have greater buying power than us and will get good deals on bulk components to the price hit to consumers of consoles will be less than we experience.give it a year or two and ram prices will be back to normal. almost every time we see a huge demand followed by a shortage in supply of something, we get a glut/oversupply afterwards.
>>729106727This. I don't believe they'd ever do that. They'd get in trouble with the law.
>>729106142>buy fake chink ram on alibaba>post on plebbit for updoots>a literally who publishes your (((story))) on a dead website>get 3 comments>everyone stood up and clappedmany such cases, sad!
>>729106727sounds like an amazon scam not corsair
>>729106330>Anyone that can afford $999 of RAM is too rich for me to sympathize with.So lower middle class people with basic bitch jobs?
>>729106669Crypto is not comparable because it was only regular people buying the GPU's, now you have private companies using unlimited government funds to buy everything before it even leaves the fuckin silicon mines.
>>729106705I can't wait for the data centres to be bombed after Israel has completely decoupled its economy from the west just like Russia circa 1917 when the millionaires fled and left them starving in breadlines.If you don't think this is a way to centralize the entire western economy into something that can be easily obliterated and destroying us on a global economic level for generations, you're retarded.We've been told that these data centres are worth tens of billions of dollars because they're full of RAM that went from fifty bucks to nine hundred and fifty bucks in the span of three months because they told us RAM prices went up that high just because.We have billionaires trading the same billion dollars amongst each other around these fucking data centres and they're saying every single passing of the billion is a billion dollar increase to the dollar value of that initial billion dollars.We have our entire economy tied up in undefended targets, while the tangible gold and resources have been shipped off when they can be shipped off and sold off when they can't be shipped off.Those motherfuckers are getting bombed.Welcome to the breadlines.
>>729107237>Anon thinks this is a problem because datacenters can be bombedYou are so young lmao
>>729107237the sheer volume of mass surveilance AI has already enabled and will enable in the future will ensure that such bombings won't happen.
>>729107237if datacenters in the middle of bumfuck nowhere get bombed we have bigger problems than the economy
>>729106786>almost every time we see a huge demand followed by a shortage in supply of something, we get a glut/oversupply afterwards.Pretty much the only place spinning up DRAM factories is China for their domestic market, which lead to Samsung/SK Hynix stopping production of DRAM modules older than DDR5 due to china not price gouging as hard as they were, which pushes the volatile memory demand further into DDR5 which worsens the shortage.With Micron/SK/Samsung having been sued for price fixing before, there's little chance they'll actually increase production at all, and instead just collude and ride out their sudden ability to charge hilarious prices with glee.
>>729107039imagine still living in 2021
>>729106142i cant wait till this shit collapses the entire economy
>>729107235>Crypto is not comparable because it was only regular people buying the GPUImagine being this new.All that shit dedicated stems using gpu stacks was bought in bulk by companies, no individual has the power to mine crypto, there was specialized companies driving the price of gpus upward
>>729107684It would be stupid to produce more if they can just do nothing and sell what they have for 20x more
>>729106142No, we're witnessing the end of home computing
>>729107821Anon, a shed with 100 GPU's is not nearly comparable with open AI buying 40% of the entire globe ram production for 5 years.
>>729107826Exactly. The line went up without them having to do anything at all, the most handrubbingly-good outcome expected for their shareholders.
Can't wait for the AI jew to pop.
>>729107801yeah man just two more weeks.if (not when) it does btw YOU are gonna pay for it and not the greedy fucks who caused it.
>>729106142ORANGE MAN IS BAD THIS IS THE NEW NARRATIVE WE GOT HIM THIS TIME PC GAMING IS OVER FELLOW GAMERS NEVER SUPPORT ORANGE MAN ANYMORE
>>729108017>/sjust for you retard
>>729106142>thanks for the 96gb of ram sucker
>>729108086feel free to go back
>rtx 3080>12700k>32gbram>12tb hdd>4tb ssd>1440p monitorhaven't upgraded for something like... 4 years? 5? what for? there's absolutely nothing that even utilizes the pc i have currently. most AAA shit is boring, and every AA or indie game that comes out runs like butter. got a steam deck, got a quest 3, pc link cable, like 6 chink handhelds.let it blow over. i got a backlog going back 45 years. yeah. you read that correctly. 1980 was 45 years ago.
>>729108071why'd you start bringing up your pedo king out of nowhere
>>729106142This is borderline racist.
>>729108017>if (not when)keep telling yourself that
>>729106307crypto increased prices but not by 2000%
>>729108145you're probably good for 5 more years if you game on 1080plong enough for all this to blow over
>>729107928This looks like a shed to you, nigger?People sperged out the same 5 years ago, about climate, price and speculation because EVERYONE even my grandma shilled some shitcoin with dedicated blockchain.You don't mine crypto as individual anymore, thia stuff is too thick to go though in calculations and need a huge mole of gpus.
>>729106142>Went to go check my order history out of curiosity>The 32 gigs of ram I bought for £88 in July is now selling for £359Anon I am so fucking scared
>>729108418good news, it can only get better from here
>>729108360>This looks like a shed to you, nigger?No, but those are not GPUs, those are ASIC miners you retarded philistine.
>>729108360Yeah faggot it's a shed, here's what a real private funded craze looks like
>>729108529Yeah you're rightThank God there isn't a number bigger than 359
Once the LLM scam falls apart and people realize actual AI won't come from adding more RAM to chat bots the price will go back down.
>>729107928Are we not going to act like 2200g processors going for $400 just so that way people could have a computer that plays some games wasn't just as bad as now? I sold an R9 280 for more than I paid for my RX 580 at that time.
OpenAI's gonna need to scam a lot more investors to actually pay for those RAM contracts cause they still don't actually make money yet
>>729106142I hope you like subscription based cloud gaming
>>729108017Not me. I'm a community manager. I will be evicting the people paying for it.
>>729107235>it was only regular people buying the GPU
>>729107235You have to be over 18 to use 4chan.
Once again some desperate shill tries to push the cloud gaming angle and once again nobody believes it.
>>729109168>anon doesn't remember the time where the US government went to the nvidia HQ and bought all of their GPU's for a decade
>>729109407It will get to the point were the amount of stupid morons who don't care will make it profitable to fuck over the consumer, just look at all the concessions console gamers accepted.
>>729108418I thought this was only about DDR5, but just in case I bought another 16GB of DDR4 on 27 November (G.Skill Aegis, CL16, 3000MHz). I paid 97 euro. When I bought the first 16GB of the exact same ram 6.5 years ago when I built my current PC, I paid... 102 euro. Yep, it got a bit cheaper.This convinced me that DDR4 are safe. I checked again just now. 285 euro. 285 euro for 16GB of DDR4. And not even from one of the best manufacturers.No one is safe any more. But fuck, did I dodge the bullet.
>>729108692Xbox 360bros...
>>729106665GPUs weren't "50% more expensive" at the time. They were unavailable. There were NO GPUs to buy at the height of shitcoin, all swept minutes after restock. Are you trying to memoryhole this?
>>729108869And you could sell any RAM stick you bought a month ago for 5x now. What is your point?No, the crypto craze can't hold a candle to the AI craze if we go by the numbers and it's not even remotely close.
>>729109712They were available in my country, just with increased prices. I think you're mixing things up with COVID shortages.Also, it had nothing to do with bitcoin, it was ethereum mining.
>>729108150Because this is all an obvious attempt to sabotage his economic success. You hate him so much you'd destroy our economy to punish him.
>>729109712>GPUs weren't "50% more expensive" at the time. They were unavailable.That's blatantly a lie though. You could buy them easily from scalpers.
>>729106142Why sell something to someone to play digital toys with when it can be used to bring about an a.i god and used for defence etc. Your market isnt needed and is pathetic. Just play a game on your phone if youre that much of a little toddler you need to pway wif a toy goo goo gaa gaa
>>729109575Aww fuck
>>729108360>>729108071Watch out we got a true believer on our hands. Look at him go folks.
>>729106142how much of this ram going to data centers is ever going to be actually plugged in? most of these places dont even have the power infrastructure to turn on
>>729108312i called it when cyberpunk2077 came out and dlss started becoming more common that we would not see any significant true graphical leap and that we'd be hitting a stagnation period. with AAA shit just being truly uninspired trash cash grab live service trash for the lowest common denominator, i could give a fuck less about upgrading. GTA6 might be the only thing that'd make it worth the jump, but i never buy those games when they come out anyway.
>>729106330Mine is worth $2.5k now lmao ecks dee
>>729110208The burger government is stepping in and giving them carte blanche to go nuts and even make their own power plants if they needed power.So everything will be plugged in, even if the general populace will have rolling blackouts.
>>729106307Crypto wasn't institutionalized like this fucking AI shit is. If you live in america and pay taxes the govt handed your money to big tech with the chips act so they can build more gaytass data centers.
>The ram sticks i bought in january for 100$ are now 350$Totally not a gold rush btw, AGI soon, just 2 more datacenters
>>729106142The good thing is that if the bubble ever explodes i will be able to buy 64 GB single rams for $25 used kek
>>729110631>Buying PC components used
>>729110631>AI datacenters parts half life is 2-3 yearsThey will be nice keychains
>>729106142>he got tricked into buying the 0GB packagelaughing my fucking ass off
>>729110268do you have any more like this anon, i really like it
I can't believe people are actually falling for these. I can't believe these are actually real. Holy shit lmao.
>>729107039It's 2025, no "lower middle class people" with actual bills and responsibilities is dropping $1k on RAM. Maybe if they're mooching off their parents I guess
>>729110631>implying this shit isn't going straight to the landfill when it pops
sorry i would still let tech CEOs rape me in public as long as the corporations do things people i dislike get mad at, anything else would being a KEK!
>>729111482those are "dummy kits". they fill the empty holes for aesthetics.
>>729111482What the fuck arrives if you buy this?
>>729108071>Mentions Zion Don out of nowhereMiggers just can't help themselves.
>>729111695An empty box
>>729106142I paid $300 for used DDR4. This country is finished.
>>729111482>0x0 GBI'll just be smart and order 2x0GB
>>729111695They're dummy sticks that just provide the RGB lighting. It's not intended to be a scam, those things actually exist.
>>729112452I wonder how many times they "accidentally" ship out dummy RAM to consumers and bank on retarded consumers not checking their RAM after installing it. Seems fishy to me.
>>729112640At some point you have to take responsibility on buying RAM sticks that are 10x less the regular price and not expect that something is wrong.
>>729112983I'm saying they can "accidentally" ship dummy RAM instead of real RAM even if you paid $1000 for it. Seems to be what happened to this ledditor.
>>729112640I'm pretty sure anyone smart enough to build a PC is going to, at some point after booting it up, open some monitoring software at least once to make sure everything is working right. Having half the RAM you're expecting to have is pretty impossible to miss.
>>729113281>I'm pretty sure anyone smart enough to build a PC is going to, at some point after booting it up, open some monitoring software at least once to make sure everything is working right.You overestimate the average retarded consumer.
>>729113230I could understand some redditard buying 2x 8gb sticks and one of them is a dud and he never notices, but buying 96gb and not noticing?c'mon
>>729113281How long until they make RAM that reports to the kernel that it has 32GB but is actually 32MB?
>>729111465https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jruePLnEvMs
>>729112640>>729113230More likely the redditor received the $1000 RAM and replaced the package with dummy RAM so he could get free RAM on Amazon's dime.
>>729113465It sounds more like the user sent in his 96 GB kit because he had an issue and had to RMA it. Corsair tried to trick the user by sending him back a dummy kit.
>>729106142kek
>>729107801The eternal waitfag
>>729107039I have clients who work in specialty medicine and make north of $500k a year who wouldn't justify paying $1k for RAM. You'll understand in your next life when you have student loans, two kids, a mortgage, multiple car payments, and are saving for kids' college tuition.
>>729113573In that case, that's based. Fuck Amazon and fuck RAM sellers.
>>729106307Congrats you're oldPeople who don't remember the last time something this bad happened were kids when it went down
>>729108145do you think pc hardware lasts forever?they are literally built to break so you'll buy more, just like everything else these days
Should I sell half my ram for a car? Do I really need both sticks?
>>729113579Like how would that ever work>Consumer sends faulty product back>We send a cardboard cutout of the product to himThe first thing the guy will to is to double check the whole thing, it would never pass as a scam.
>>729106307Everything everyone else said, PLUS now you have companies like Nvidia and Micron cutting their consumer hardware production, while during the crypto nonsense companies were trying to scale up.
I hope so. Fuck you niggers. The death of pc and console gaming is a good thing.
>>729113787How much ram do you have and what do you need it for? If it's gaming, even on the high end, most games don't require more than 16gb.
>>729110394Microsoft is apparently is buying the decommissioned Three Miles nuclear plants and is modernizing them and upgrading their control centers, before using them to power new data centres.Keep in mind: this is Windows 11 era, jeet-crewed vibe-coding Microsoft.Have fun with Chernobyl take two, Burger anons.Hope you have your iodine tablets still on hands.
>>729115174Time to get your geiger counters ready, burgeranons.
>>729115174>nuclear power finally becomes the standard as it always should have been>but intsead of being made safe and competently its made by jeets and homer simpsonsWho the fuck used the monekys paw again
How are businesses going to navigate this? It's not like this is a gaming only problem. W11 and internet browsers suck up so much ram that I'm regularly at 80% usage on 32gb at work, and it will only get worse as W11 adds more bloat over time.
>>729116494Laptop companies are already dialing everything but their high end products back down to 8gb
>>729106307Crypto only made GPUs way too expensive and it tanked Nvidia's salesRAM apocalypse made RAM and SSDs more expensive than GPUs and even consumer GPUs are about to get fucked
>>729112452>Putting fake stuff on exhibition because you are afraid of customers damaging it or stealing itI was going to say>Do americans really..?But then i remembered americans do really
>>729106142Corsair is a luxury RAM.For $ price you divide by 3.8
>>729106727the proof is that a corsair associate actually reached out to him and forwarded his case to the support team
>>729106142real PC gaming died years ago
>>729106307Cryto was a bunch of russians and chinks. This is literally all the most valuable companies in the world buying up the supply for the foreseeable future.
>>729107237Moron they're being built underground.
>>729107237Uh-oh, I smell insurance fraud.
>>729106142Ah shit I was gonna try and get a replacement for a bad stick I have
>>729116494>How are businesses going to navigate this?By not caring
>>729106142Yes, exactly like it ended a few years ago, and a few years before that, and a few years before that...
>>729106142Maybe. Then again gaming hasnt really been good as it used to be 20-25 years ago. I had fun though.
>>729117340Do not despair. It's coming to your countries as well.>n-no it wont!Try and stop it. Immigration from Africa is mandatory. Enjoy!
>>729115174>Microsoft is apparently is buying the decommissioned Three Miles nuclear plants and is modernizing them and upgrading their control centers, before using them to power new data centres.>Saar please do the needful and upgrade your control center to Windows 11 Cowshit Edition
>>729106142>smartphone crash of 2004>crypto rugpull of 2017>now the AI-prop up a failing global economy of 2025This is just how modern society is. When some new tech is invented, companies go ham and slurop up all forms of memory processing chips in order to capitalize on the current money making trend. Once AI becomes more normalized, prices will once again fall because there will no longer be a shortage of physical components.Like you would think people would know this considering everytime Apple releases a new i-phone, they slurp up the entire planets semi-conductor stock from Taiwan. Literally happens like every single year.
>>729117340HAHAHAHAH what the fuck
>>729106307This feels different and much worse.
>>729117340It's okay, there's no locks on the sunscreen
>>729117340I can understand having the melatonin behind an employee check but I dunno why you'd put everything else there behind one
>>729118370>Mint condition sealed-in-box ham $2,000Game collectors are getting ridiculous.
>>729106307This time forreal, pc gaming is dead.
>>729108145I ran a 2015 equivalent of this for 10 years (980ti, 4790k) until I upgraded a few months ago, you should be okay for another 5 years.
>>729113717works on my masheen, maybe take care of your shit
>>729106142I bet the user tried to scam Corsair and they sent him his RGB sticks back so now he's crying about it online to see if he can get Corsair to send him free RAM so he can sell it
>>729106142You will rent your computer and like it. You will own nothing.
>>729118370
>>729106142yes, a lot of people can see the writing on the wall, and that writing is "you will own nothing and be happy"renting compute from these massive datacenters being built will be considered cheaper/simpler than building a pc in the near future.just like we watched physical media die over the last decade, we'll watch physical hardware die over the next one.
>>729109560Every cloud console bombed too
> 2 x 16GB RAM>RTX 3060 12GB>Ryzen 5 3600I'm comfy
>>729106142>tfw still have DDR3 motherboard
>>729119347goat combo. before that it was the 2600k and the fuckin 780ti. before that it was whatever bullshit cpu you had with that 8800gt. it's actually funny to think how very few times i've upgraded my pc in the last 20 years.
>>729119548>3060I assume you play games in 1080p with no consideration of RTX ever
>yeah dog as soon as we done inflating the price yall can has dat
First anon to post a photo of himself holding a piece of paper that has the current date and says "Hi /v/" gets $100 worth of games. It must be handwritten and your face must be visible. Link your Steam profile along with the games you want and I'll send them.
Thank god DDR5 is being memed as the thing to have because DDR4 is just as good for games. Thank god nobody will read this post and buy up all the DDR4 ram.
If you have working DDR4 sticks your only option is to go Intel 14th gen and buy the GPU you can afford right now because GPUs will get their shit rocked next year.5800X3D is no longer viable since they're no longer in production and second hand prices have skyrocketed.For SSDs you're totally fucked if you haven't bought any this year and will pay a premium even for 500gb-1tb ones. 1tb is only a few AA-AAA Steam games plus Wangblows.
>>729119548can you even play baldurs gate 3 with that setup
>>729106307>lol things were bad before, you guys surprised they got worse!?
>>729119392This. All of my shit will last basically forever until I decide it's time to upgrade.
how soon until Sam Altman just forms goonsquads to break into people's houses and take their PC for himselfTrump bought Silicon Valley by pretty much promising not to regulate them in any way and to let them do as they wish, might as well have ICE RAM
>>729106142>hardware becoming impossible to buy also coincides with AAA gaming putting out nothing worth playing
>>729106669The president of the United States wasn’t spending my tax dollars to build bitcoin mining factories during the crypto boom.
>>729119906why would they even want to play that shit
>>729120550But now the president is encouraging ai companies under the vague promise of a return on investment.
>>729120919More like the Techbros have made the boomer president believe that AI companies will have a massive ROI.
>its a bubbleYes, and then what happens after? Did the internet disappeared once the dotcom bubble exploded? No, its gotten a hundred time bigger 20 years down the line
>>729119648>with no consideration of RTX everthere ain't no serious gamer that cares about ray tracing. it's all normies playing movie games.
Scammers have convinced technologically illiterate boomers that true AI can be made if we just pump enough data into chatbots.
