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>you need a guide to play the game

why this is allowed??
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i remember playing it on release just fine, pretty sure there were no guides OP
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>>729111716
I've never once used a guide to play a souls game
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shitter.
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>>729112281
>magic
go kiss OP already faggot
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>>729111716
the game was designed from the floor up for generating wiki traffic
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>>729111716
IDK I played it on release and did in fact not need a guide like many other people.
>>729113014
Your asshole was designed from the floor up to take cock, so there's that.
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>>729112669
>WAAAH WAAAAAH HOW DARE YOU HAVE FUN
seethe.
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>post-nerf radahn
>post-nerf consort radahn
>post-buff skibidi fragments
You didn't beat the game.
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>>729111716
You need a guide to not permanently fuck up all the quests. Yes, every Souls game is the same way.
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>>729115643
you aren't meant to do them all on your first go. Souls games purposely don't care if you miss things. Its part of their appeal. Go play a checklist Ubisoft game. Probably more your speed
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>>729115732
They do care. If you fuck up you are permanently locked out of shit. You can be locked out of the true final boss in bloodborne if you happened to get blood from the hooker 3 times and kill fake Iosefka before the blood moon.
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Hidetaka Miyazaki's philosophy is to recreate the gaming industry from the NES days. You needed guides and nintendo power to even beat NES games. So yeah.
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>>729116902
You didn't need Nintendo Power for anything but Simon's Quest.
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>>729115643
>You need a guide to not permanently fuck up all the quests.
Literally the only way you can fuck up quests is to attack NPCs or kill Maliketh
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you don't need a guide for er lmao wtf
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>>729111716
So that when someone plays without a guide you can feel smug and say it was easy for you. Souls games are all about the fantasy of being the guy who says it was easy for them to do a bunch of stupidly punishing bullshit because you looked up an optimal build and cheese strat guide.
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>>729116809
>They do care
They don't. Its meant to encourage replays
>You can be locked out of the true final boss in bloodborne if you happened to get blood from the hooker 3 times and kill fake Iosefka before the blood moon.
You aren't meant to get the moon presence ending on your first go. part of the joy of NG+ in the older games was discovering new things, areas, and bosses. I missed Cainhurst entirely on my first playthrough.
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>>729117286
Exactly, that's another thing you could permanently miss if you're not using the guide. Nobody wants to play the whole fucking game over, so they will have to use a guide.
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I beat them all without a guide or wiki though my entry was Dark Souls and a friend did clue me in on a few mechanics like resistance being useless and how weight works.

That said yeah you're not 100%ing any of these games unless you open the wiki, I had a blast playing the game again and seeing everything I missed the first time.
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>I need to do every quest and see every piece of content
What caused this mentality? Back in the PS1 days you'd just beat a game and that was good enough unless it was your second time through. No one was saying "you didn't beat the game if you didn't beat Ruby weapon" at recess.
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Why do people play souls games like Banjo-Kazooie?
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>>729111775
>pretty sure there were no guides OP
Wrong, some streamers/youtubers get early copies so they can upload guides on release. Actually these games are made with guides in mind, not to mention that they also expect youtubers to fill the gaps in their vague plots so they leave “clues” for them.
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>>729111716
Because the Soulsfags are toxic and hate the idea of an in-game journal which they claim breaks immersion. According to them, the Tarnished, an immortal warrior capable of challenging and killing a God, is an illiterate peasant that can't read.
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>>729119880
He is a demented psychopath who just kills anyone who doesn't immediately suck his dick
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>>729111775
There were guides day fucking one bruh. How the fuck was I supposed to figure Radahn out btw? His castle looks like a normal area with a minor boss, it's just fucking empty, turns out you have find a NPC under a bridge in an optional area and exhaust his dialogue to fight one of the main bosses because fuck you.
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>>729117434
>Nobody wants to play the whole fucking game over, so they will have to use a guide
prior to Elden Ring it was understood that if you didn't get a character up to at least NG+2 you hadn't truly beaten the game yet.
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>>729112281
I had more trouble with them individually than the duo.
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>>729117159
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>>729117465
Pretty sure that's what op meant, even while playing your own way you can find the secrets but there are some stuff that really needs a guide.
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>>729120680
Radahn isn't required to finish the game.
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>>729111716
guides ruin the Souls games
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>>729120680
All that is required to fight him is to reach Altus Plateau



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