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>>729118026
Square Enix because E33 devs are big fans of Square Enix and they developed their games at only 10 million while Square Enix own games suffer from MASSIVE budget bloat

People legitimately say Expedition 33 is the FF game they've wanted for a long while too.
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>>729118026
>kojima can't even make the meme
not looking good for kojimabros...
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>>729118026
Sandfall themselves! They've been thrust under the white hot light of fame and the results have been unpleasant
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>>729118291
fpbp. doesnt help that alot of fans have been begging for a turn based ff game while the devs keeps saying nobody likes them anymore.
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>AIslop china wastes $100M on for sub 10m sales
>Muh lucky number 3 in chinese
Astroturf. Glad they haven't broke even yet.
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>>729118026
Why would gamefreak be suffering?
They just make a mediocre game and sell millions anyways
If anyone is suffering is the retarded fans still eating the slop
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>>729118291
>People legitimately say Expedition 33 is the FF game they've wanted for a long while

Lmao.
Final Fantasy was forced to drop the turn based combat BECAUSE both fans and casuals HATED it.

Then BG3 and E33 comes and suddenly everyone loves garbage boring slow Turn based combat?
Nah.
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I seriously can’t imagine being Ubisoft and seeing not one, but two examples in the same year of people leaving your studios going on to release critically acclaimed games while all you can do is create the most bland projects imaginable while you’re entirely unraveling at the seams.
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>>729119504
Fans and casuals loved FF10 and hated everything after.
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>>729119504
>"hot" brown npc takes
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>>729119504
I don't hate both turn based and action but they had their chance to do kingdom hearts style and fucked it.
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>>729118291
E33 is unironically the best FF game since 12 and of course it's better than 12, it's easily a top 3 FF-like jrpg.
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>>729119504
If fans hate turn-based combat so much, why did DQXI outsell the later FF games despite FF being a bigger name than DQ was?
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>>729119504
Go home Nomura you have zero talent.
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>>729118026
Pokemon makes more money than everything here
this shilled unreal slop is going to forgotten in a year, as are all games praised by fotm normalfags
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>>729119175
I wouldn't want FF to go back to turn based they need to innovate more on Rebirths combat which is better overall
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>>729119924
Hell even DQ3HD outsold Rebirth.
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all those companies are shooting themselves in the foot, no need to blame some french fags
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>>729118026
Shartpeenix got gaped the hardest.
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>>729118291
>while Square Enix own games suffer from MASSIVE budget bloat
16 only cost $60 million to make.
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Funny how hard metaflop got forgotten as soon as the turd based sissies found a new game to shill.
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>>729121854
How does 16 look 2x better than Rebirth and cost half as much?
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>>729118291
SE is doing massive layoffs after every FF game has flopped since XV.
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>>729122085
>SE is doing massive layoffs
not a single employee fired was Japanese you fucking schizo
>after every FF game has flopped since XV.
you are mentally ill.
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>>729122230
What does awards have to do with sales? SE admitted that XVI and Rebirth failed to profit in their annual reports.
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>>729122230
KEKKYPOW
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you can tell jeet enix shills took it the hardest considering they are still salty about getting swept by metaflop kek
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>SE admitted that XVI and Rebirth failed to profit
you are mentally ill, not worth a (you)
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>>729122760
I misremembered the profit part but it didn't meet expectations and they said so themselves.
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>>729118026
square is so cooked fr fr no cap on gog my family desu senpai
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>>729122085
Layoffs are deserved. We asked for turn based and they gave us gay race communism instead. Good riddance.
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>>729122412
Common turnBASED W like usual.
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>>729121065
Kek saved
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what a gay cringe meme. the e33 fanbase is filled with actual retards.
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>>729119504
>he fell for their gaslighting
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>what a gay cringe meme. the e33 fanbase is filled with actual retards.
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>>729118026
Ubisoft devs make the ideal FF game and win every award.
SE devs make Ubisoft game and lost every award and flop.
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I love how Bethesda was the least gaped out of all of these
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>>729123846
At least they recognized that trying to appeal to westerners with Rebirth and XVI was a mistake and started correcting the problem. It's probably too late for 7R3 to not flop, but by cutting ties with he west they can return to making turn based FF games that are profitable like DQ.
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>>729118026
Sandfall. Expectations will be high for their next game, and I'm not sure if they can deliver.
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don't reply to me schizo
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>>729122002
There wasn't much to develop. 16 is barely even a video game, and what little game there is is as shallow as a puddle. Maybe they should have splurged a little more and purchased its cast of characters some personalities.
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>>729118291
I mean squeenix is the only real choice here. E33 was basically a love letter to old FF games and proof that there is still a market there despite what Yoshida said.
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>>729124106
How did a bunch of woke and gay non-binary frogs make a less woke and gay game than japs?
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>>729124439
kek no wonder it flopped and got half the company terminated
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>>729124378
Nomura isn't innocent either which is why Redditbirth shitted and flopped
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>>729124439
Final Fantasy?
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>>729124758
Best I can do is unskippable fag cutscenes.
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bump
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>>729119504
It should be illegal to be this retarded in public.
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samefag cult member going all out while his shitty company has no new games coming out in the next 5 years.
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>>729125293
Redditbirth couldn't even win a Japanese award without having Metaphor as competition. Grim KEK
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>>729124439
They paid SweetBaby millions for this and didn't even sell over 2m copies.
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Sage denied
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>>729124825
holy KEK the absolute state
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Man e33 was the final straw in finally admitting my old ass GTX 1080 just can't do it anymore.
Still just gonna play mostly old games tho.
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>>729124283
>336k
kek flopped and raped
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>>729120086
Nomura pushed for the ATB elements of VIIR's combat system. Yoshida is the one with a hardon for action.
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>kek flopped and raped
yes metaflop got it's royal edition cancelled.
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>>729127243
FFIX is kamige along with V and VI.
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gaped and gutted
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>>729127243
Reminder that Jack's game is the highest rated action FF since it's 86%
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>>729118026
>comparing a completely linear FaggotRPG movie-game with the open world Bethesda games
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>>729128131
Bro?
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Dragon Quest XII will be turn-based kino



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