>>729121463AI sloppa
>>729121463Bethesda could NEVER design a city that looks that big
>>729121463>you can now visit the same cave outpost for the 8th time (in a row)... AND SEE YOUR LASERS REFLECTION IN A PUDDLE!thank you but I will pass desu ne
>>729121463What were Bethesda thinking releasing a game like Starfield? Did they think they were too big to fail?
>>729121706i doubt you played it cause no one did but it was actually pretty good. it just wasnt on the level of elder scrolls or even fallout.
>>729121706seems like Todd just really wanted to make it and took everyone else on the right. its alright.
more toddslop no thanks
>>729121832It was such a giant departure from what they usually make and nothing came together in any meaningful way
if you're going to AI generate things at least keep the train consistent.
>>729121832>it wasn't on the same level as their other two shit franchises, but it was quite good actually
>>729121990>It was such a giant departure from what they usually makeIt was basically just a fallout game without VATS and with 1000% more empty space and worse writing.
>>729121706The concept isn't necessarily a bad one. There's just very little talent left at BGS.
>>729122178And a far less interesting setting. I love exploring the TES and Fallout worlds and learning about the lore. Starfield in comparison has no story or lore to really speak of, and what’s there is the most bland generic slop imaginable
>>729122178the biggest issue is that they took out their usual gameplay loop of exploring and looting and replaced it with copy pasted caves and outposts with nothing to find
>>729121463Second most boring game I've ever played, just after RDR2.
>>729121463Does the update make the game even slightly bit more entertaining?
>>729121706Their team was pretty sick and tired doing TES and Fallout and wanted to make something new.They failed utterly but it satiated their desire to move away from TES and Fallout for a bit and Starfield is now permanently shelved and too damaged as an IP to bother with a sequel.Prior to Microshit buying them their devs and employees have been making the same games for decades.
The game is goodhttps://youtu.be/wLSNxyRhCLY
>>729122382But horse testicles tho
>base building is a thing>but the endgame gameplay is basically a parallel universe loop and maxing out force powers ad infinitum
>>729122435>"their team was tired of making TES">editor's note: they had only made TWO (2) TES games in the last 20 years
I got it really modded it with great hdr and realistic ballistics harder ai and tons of cool stuff and it had some good firefights. It has outpost building, and ship customization. Really a lot of potential. But was ultimately just a boring fast travel similator.There is so many boring empty repetitive planets with the same outpost layouts and only a small number of real locations.Space combat is boring, though disabling and boarding ships is cool for awhile.Zero g sometimes adds variety.You cannot really fly the ship between destinations, cannot fly it on planets or use its weapons while landed. No real vehicles but huge empty zones.The story is dull, the dialog options almost don't have any impact on story direction, and the characters all feel like dei robots missing soul designed to meet a woke agenda and not real people. Like they take ssris and you should be depressed too.It has everything needed to be great but you can just feel the multiple seperate jeet teams working on parts then combining it into something missing the right spark.
>>729122815Exactly my point, they were developing Oblivion and Skyrim for decades with Fallout 3, 4 and 76 somewhere
>>729121832>it was actually pretty good. it just wasnt on the level of elder scrolls or even falloutThis. The game is at the very least a 7/10.Mechanically, it's the best game they've ever made. Planetary vistas are detailed and beautiful.The starship building system is pretty damn good and the resource management of flying them is fun to mess with too.The downside is that only some of the questlines are good. The others are distinctly uninspired. The setting is "fine" but doesn't have any exotic appeal to draw you in.Once you do all the quests, there's very little left to do besides generated spacer outposts. As a result of there being 100 planets, all of the handcrafted content tends to have you getting nudged to go find it, which further reduces the sense of exploration. It's necessary, however, as you'd literally never find it otherwise.
>>729121706They wanted to make a boomer game and succeeded at that. It's just that there's not as many forum dads as they are loud and to everyone else it was a one and done.
>>729123232>they were developing Oblivion and Skyrim for decadesNot how it works. You cannot make two games in 20 years and shit your pants as if you're Ubisoft with Ass Creed or RGG with Yakuza.
>>729123256>and the resource management of flying themstarfield ships have unlimited fuel
>>729121519pretty fitting for jeetfield
>>729123362>putting yakuza on the same level as ass creed
>>729123383I mean this of course. It makes it more fun than "move your joystick around then press X when the reticle lines up". Maybe a little gimmicky but I had fun with it, like taking power from my jumper jets to power up my lasers in the fight even if it means I can't escape.>unlimited fuelThey actually meant to have it, but it was stripped out because of playtesters. There was actually a complex climate system and injury system that got lobotomized.
>>729124040missed image because of fucking captcha
>>729121463What is this jeet cope? startroon will never be good, it can't be fixed.
>>729123597In terms of the dev teams behind the games going from one entry immediately to the next, sure. RGG went back to back from 1 to 2 to Kenzan to 3 to 4 to Dead Souls to 5 to Ishin to 0 to Kiwami to 6 to Kiwami 2 to Fist of the North Star to Judgment to 7 to Lost Judgment to Ishin Kiwami to The Man Who Erased His Name to 8 to Pirate Yakuza to Kiwami 3. Back to back, with what? Binary Domain and a couple Monkey Balls inbetween only? Compare that with Todd and co. making two Elder Scrolls between 2003~2023.
>>729121463You know what, I believe it. Claude code has been going hard since the opus update. A decent size team could probably shit out an AAA game in a month with how good AI code agents have gotten.
>>729124040>There was actually a complex climate systemyeah right lol
>>729121589how did mass effect do it? fuck even halo?
Starfield is just missed opportunity the game. They could have found a cult following but they cucked out of any interesting stuff at the finish line.>injuries>hazardous climates>ship fuel>resource management>interesting economicsAll gutted at the last second because play testers got frustrated when they immediately burned up leaving their ship without any thermal protection. They had a decent vision and because they didnt follow through we got a game made for no one.
>>729124682shut up dumbass, don't ask stupid questions
If the exploration was good it would have succeeded. People still play skyrim because the exploration is god-tier
>>729124040>They actually meant to have it, but it was stripped out because of playtestersYou can even tell how the starting dungeon making zero sense being forced is due to this btw. Chances are originally your ship was low on fuel and you had to land on Kreet to resupply, which is why the dungeon ends with the conspicuous roof with access to a bunch of fuel tanks which in the final game are pretty much useless sans for crafting materials. When they cut that mechanic they must've come up with the retarded Protocol Indigo excuse where Vasco expects you to solo an entire bandit camp because he fears they can follow you to the heavily defended capital planet full of police ships after you jump to lightspeed which in every other instance in the game serves to get away from any active firefight.
>>729124627meaning that you'd have to bring a suitable hot weather suit to a hot plant and a cold weather suit to a cold planet, make considerations for atmosphere, etc.and those planets' conditions could seriously hard you, rather than the "-5% O2 because it's cold" that made it into the final gameyou notice that the healing items are all color coded with symbols and everything. its because they would have had complex injuries based on the environment you stumbled into unpreparedsee: >>729124779
>>729121463Never touching this shit again. Don't care how pretty it looks. Loading screen simulator. Bad writing. Boring sterile universe. Skyrim with guns but worse. Dragon shouts but space. Beth better pull it out of the fucking bag with their next elder scrolls game or they deserve to go under.
>>729121463still got those fugly nigger npcs yikes
>>729121463>>729121653Is this AI??
>>729125457One thing that is a very valid criticism.What I think is most funny is the Vlad character.I'm 97% sure the war in Ukraine happened and MS went "uhhh... ummm... make him Black and we'll be home free from many criticism".
>>729125572No, whatever would make you say that.
Genuinely can't wait, despite its many flaws I still really enjoy it. I wish it had more women to marry because it being the first Bethesda game where you can romance everyone at once is crazy.
>>729125192This plus all the npcs talk like dead fish or forced to be cheerful
>>729125684>wanting some used up whore following you at all times when you could be shooting up Aurora with Mickey Caviar between engagements instead
>>729122178And Dragon Shouts, Can't forget the useless Space Dragon Shouts.
>>729121589Modern day Bethesda, no
>>729121832i bought on launch and played 9 hrs til i realized the world was shallow as a puddle, did not care about the world like with their other stuff
>>729121463Is 90% of this game just walking around this boring ass city full of ugly NPCs?
>>729126669Wow anon thats a real brave and unique opinion you got there.
>>729121463have they mentioned anything about if there will be less loading screens or if it's just going to be superficial bullshit that doesn't really fix any of the core complaints?
>>729126720No you got like 10 similar destinations you travel between, then 100 empty stale planets with the same few repeated buildings and interiors far apart and maybe some odd unrealistic wildlife and plants.Tons of resources you can spend forever gathering for marginal upgrades or use in outpost building which uses entirely different navigation controls and is slow (play with a gamepad) and tedious and a fraction of the fun of a fallout 4 putpost.The game has a ton of mechanics it just feels like walking around in walmart with an ssri zombie friend.
>>729127768Can't believe they're still trying to save this game instead of going all hands on deck for TESVI.
>>729126319it was more in depth than what eventually made it into the game
>>729126720youre thinking of cyberpunk. starfield is more about walking on an empty planet
>>729126720No it's also designing starships, which is probably the coolest thing in the game.
