Why do gamers insist on being on the wrong side of history with AI?
>>729123398>if the game is excellent>AIOxymoron
>>729123518E33
>>729123398>made up scenarios
>>729123568>Industry plant just because they are butthurt about japanese games
>>729123398>still no option for 'social media screencap in the OP'Extremely low quality it is, then.
>publishers want players to spend $80 for no effort AI slopthe future is birght
Why is no one on the internet able to have a nuanced conversation about A.I.?
it's getting more and more convenient to label as "AI" old tools that were used in the past that weren't labeled that way before, in order to shill AI gen garbage. i can't stop noticing
>>729123568it's dogshit
>>729123398Play skyrim unmodded and play it full modded with ai npc and tell me which one you're having more fun with
>>729123398Anti AI people are just insane. There's obvious problems with AI but it's clear it's never going away so you better get used to it
>>729123568it was /v/'s game long before release until really famous internet media told them to hate it. only jeets, trannies, and liberals would follow
>>729123398Twatter polls only poll algorithmic silos for the most part.If gaming has to be offshored to AI, there's also something very wrong, and the costs of the games should absolutely be decreased since no work was put forth where AI makes up for it, in which case AAA releases should cost less no matter what.>GUYS WE HAVE TO CHARGE 70 BECAUSE GAMES COST MORE>HEY GUYS WE'RE USING AI NOW BUT WE'LL STILL ASK FOR 70 LOL
>>729123398the right question should be>if a game is worse than it normally would be, but used AI to speed up development, how do you feel?
>>729123802Machine learning stuff has been in shit like photoshop and google translate for years now, it's a technology literally from the 60s. It was always part of the AI field, it just got no attention until LLMs and image generators blew up.
>>729123802LLM was used before for some shit in some tool like rigging and animation interpolation, also converting a photo to a PBR material, making it tileable.
>>729123897because it used AI to speed up development*
>>729123398Personally Nintendo should just fire everyone at gamefreak and let AI run wild, can't get any worse that what we are getting
>>729123398>Wow Mr. CEO, we can make this game half the price with AI tools!>Should we make the game cost half as much or keep it the same price double our profits this quarter?Best case scenario nothing changes for the consumersBut realistically more skilled staff are getting laid off and replaced with sloppa and the pajeetification of AAA gamedev will continue, so quality as a whole will decrease.
>>729123568point to the excellent game in the example
>>729123875KWAB
>>729124046AI wouldn't mind giving me pixel art pokemon games every year
>>729123784No one has any idea how any of this shit works. Or anything at all for that matter. This is what backsliding into barbarism looks like.
How have people managed to turn "Used AI to generate placeholder assets" into "The entire plot and game was written by AI"?
>>729123948>>729123942yes, I know. you're explaining the point I'm trying to make. it's a disingenuous argument
>>729124385>how any of this shit workscope. all you need to do is talk about your experiences with it and not have a stick up their ass about it
>>729124493Teenagers run wild on the internet. Social media ban when?
>>729124540Why would I have a stick up someone else's ass? I'm not that kind of guy. Frankly I find the whole thing very silly because generative AI isn't even AI so much as it is the next logical step up from the automation tools studios have already been using for decades. Its astounding people actually anyone has ever paid people to sit there and make things like seamless textures and coffee mug models by hand. Like its fucking artisanal bread or something.
man im so glad ai is causing so many games to release so much faster. truly a monumental advancement for humanity.
>>729124540>cope. all you need to do is talk about your experiences with it and not have a stick up their ass about itnot that anon I have been using ChatGPT as a supplement to my once-weekly session with my therapist and I've been developing good personal relationships with people and I'm now being gravitated towards. It has taken hella work though and lots of intentional behavior changes.
If it's a porn game, I don't mind. Not like I pay for those anyway. Not like I pay in the first place, but I don't mind AI pornslop.
>>729123398retarded niggas would be calling the fill tool in mspaint AI if you had to write a prompt to get it to work.
>>729123398If they want to use AI that's fine but devs should do two things:>Disclose AI usage, what did they use it for and how much of it is AI>Adjust asking price based on amount of AI assets usedIt's simple really. Use AI if you want but I'm not paying $80 for your slop.
I boil all the water. With 9.3k messages, I have boiled nearly .8 gallons of water. I will be the undoing of the environment.
>>729126954The oceans will be gone and this will kill the whales.
>>729127238fish shouldn't be that damn big anyways it's not fair the dinosaurs died
>>729124493 Because nobody reads beyond the headline anymore. “Used AI assets” gets paraphrased in some clickbait tweet or YouTube thumbnail as “AI wrote the whole damn thing,” and now every basement-dweller parrots it like gospel. Half these people think Unity and Unreal are actual sentient beings already.
>>729123518>>729123635>>729123828>>729124175hey dude can you stop samefagging?
>>729123398Why did you use an image that contradicts your post?
>>729128740Ironic.
>>729129136>samefag outs themselvesWhat a fucking retard lmaolurk moar you retarded newfaggot
>>729130297Ironic.
AI = no buy>>729123568I don't play slop.
>>729123398>IfIt doesn't.
>>729123398I am on the right side of history, because AI is the future. You can sperg out all you want, but you will be forgotten.
>>729130789AI = no buy
>>729130832you don't buy games anyway. you're not a gamer. never will be. you're a retarded political activists who tries to insert itself everywhere but still sticks out like a sore thumb without any self-awareness.TL;DR: You are not buying anyway, your bullshit is discarded forever.
Only trannies give a shit about AI because it's going to be replacing their jobs, the future is hunting trannies down into extinction.
>>729131035Nah, you're just brown.AI = no buy
>>729123398I think it depends
>>729131442whatever cope helps you sleep at night, you brainlet.>ff14as I was saying, you're not a gamer, you're a political activist. You couldn't have made it any clearer than any and all opinions of yours on gaming are to be discarded and disregarded forever.
>>729131442im glad retards like you will get filtered out of video games
>>729123568Don't bother, this board is filled with contrarian loser faggots
>>729131547Well, Mr. Ranjeesh, why don't you post your list, then? >>729131590Smarter AND whiter than you. Oooh, gotta sting. Go be brown somewhere else, ESL.
>>729131442You trannies really trying to switch sides. That's not going to work, you have no future. You pissed off the wrong people, ((they)) will end you.
>>729123398>play modern game>it's shit>play modern game with ai>still shit
>>729131670AI = no buyGo be brown somewhere else.
>>729124493because one will inevitably lead to the other
>>729131660I have nothing to prove to you, you delusional mong.
>>729131738>still trying to be an activist when he lost so hardYou trannies are sad men to pathetic to fix yourselves or kill yourselves. You've lost everything, only thing left is for the government to make it legal to kill you.
>>729123398>Account location: India
Anti-AI people are cringe, leftist and gay.
>>729131840>>729131919Okay Ranjeesh. I understand you're salty you got deported back to India.>>729132185AI = no buy
>>729123860Yeah i remember the threads spamming about how the french were going to save gaming by having a hot white girl in the game
>>729132267turns out it's not hot, nor a girl... not even white>>729132243cope, seethe, dilate
>>729132243>everyone's a pajeet for rightfully telling trannies to fuck offback to your discord, raider
i like to eat earwax
>>729123784You can't argue with someone whos stance is, "its 100% bad no matter what i will not change my mind"
>>729123398Good morning sars.
>>729132567That’s yucky
>>729123398>Twitter=GamersWhy does /v/ always assume a MASSIVE thing like "gamers" likely comprising like 3 bil+ people are effectively just "/v/"?
>>729123568>certified AI slop game>more linear than FF13
>>729123784because AI became politicalrighties decided anyone anti-AI is left and anyone pro-AI is based heckin 1488
>>729123784*No one in AmericaFixed that for you, champ. Places that are not full of retarded, holier than thou "I know better" types are happily embracing AI. See: Japan, China, everywhere else not burgerland.Basically the result of generations raised on the idea that they are special snowflakes instead of part of a society.
>>729132750No, trannies decided anti-ai means>REEEEE THERE WAS A BIT OF AI EVERYONE JOIN HANDS TO SAVE OUR FAILED CAREERSand people ignored them :)
Anti-AI people are not very smart
>>729132686>"why does /v/ always-"retarded newfag
>>729123398There's literally nothing wrong with this, gamers complain about everything. If you listen to the average gamer that consumes journo and YouTuber slop news, they will tell you they want games to come out faster but they don't want Devs to work hard (crunch), they want games to be cheaper but they want the Devs paid more and they want unions lmao. Meanwhile tastefully used AI could probably solve most of these issues but they don't want it used at all either kek, you're all fucking goyim
>>729123784Because arguing with luddite idiots that want to keep technology frozen in time for...feels, seems insane? Why argue with a crazy irrational person that is not even threatened by AI in the first place? Anyone can easily check and see that nobody anywhere has ever lost a job because of it's existence.
>>729123398When are gamers not raging and screeching about whatever topic is up at the time? All they do is bitch about things.
>>729132750Cartoon industry troons decided AI was evil and ruined the entire industry over complaining about it last year.
>>729123398I play a GAME to have fun. It's not serious business because I am not a faggot. Is your GAME FUN? Great, I'll play it. I don't give a shit how it was made. I don't expect my fucken UNO CARDS to be hand painted.
>>729132687Not at all
I don't care about artists, I am now anti-AI because I want to own my own computer hardware.
>>729133440Good, nobody should make any more cartoons ever again
>>729133742Cartoons are unironically poison for your mind. Christian nutjobs were correct about that.
>>729133324BuT tHe DaTa CeNtErS aRe TaKiNg OuR WaTeR!1!1
>>729132687E33 gives you map traversal one third into the game. FF13 gives it to in the last third of the game. E33 has a bunch of optional locations that you can explore that FF13 doesn't have
>>729123398AI will not speed up game development.AI will be used to cut corners and make games worse.Games would benefit more from being cooked longer
>>729123398I think if all the people I didn't despise politically didn't advocate against it I might be less inclined to give AI a pass. But I mean, most of these people are part of the same crowd who cheered when Charlie Kirk died. So yeah, that makes me not care about their opinions.
>>729123398ai is based and i don't care about the livelihood of rich robber baron artists on patreon that used to make $30,000 a month
>>729123398Probably because so many devs are already lazy and AI will make them even more lazy
>>729133993>AI will not speed up game development.That is not the point of the AI. Not the endgame. It's not even what people are looking for with the AI.>AI will be used to cut corners and make games worse.you're operating under completely made up and stupid assumptions that I give a single fuck about the video game industry.I'm a true gamer, I care only for good games. I don't care whether a monkey typed it on a typewriter, children pickaxed it in the video game mines, or 10.000 useless artsy fags were working on it.>Games would benefit more from being cooked longerGames will benefit from the lack of censorship and innovation. Both of which are completely against the modern day politics and business and both of which will be possible with the AI as a tool.Which is why AI will be glorious. Nobody gives a single fuck about people or business.
>>729134331>That is not the point of the AI. Not the endgame. It's not even what people are looking for with the AI.Its the fucking OP you mongoloid, I'm not reading the rest of your shit because you're fucking retarded
>>729123784>AI is given to the masses>Within weeks the net is fllled to the absolute brim with AI shit poisoning every single website no matter what you like>Any kind of search on any search engine is tainted with incorrect AI shit or images>Websites like pixiv got spammed with AI trash so much, they had to make a feature allowing you to filter it, and set rules for people using it on fanbox>Certain regulations needed to be pushed because of deep fakes, AI voices of celebs and other assorted shit>The engines themselves are neutered because the internet does what the internet does(make the most racist shit imaginable)>Years down the road and AI is barely better>Now we're looking at a massive RAM shortage and god knows what else because Sam Altman is a faggot.AI is a plague similar to social media, in AI's case it feeds into people's desire to create, but most people are lazy as fuck and refuse to work on their craft, but the PROMPT lets them "create", doesn't matter if it looks or sounds like shit, they "made" it, its totally their creation.Its why AI has so many defenders, all the worthless losers that are jealous of other's peoples talents now have something that in their minds put them on equal footing.AI is nothing more than another poison pill willingly swallowed by the masses, and it will only makes things worse, much like social media did. GIF totally unrelated, this GIF is what real talent looks like, something crafted by human hands.
AI is good for exactly 3 things:>1. Improving quality of life and technologyIf AI can improve an engine design or help design a 3d printable heart for a heart transplant, great. let it do that. >2. MemesNot everyone can make good memes but might still have some great ideas for some. Those AI cat videos and fat people being sucked away by tornados are fucking great. No one's losing their jobs, no one is buying slop.>3. The conceptual phase of a productIf you need to show something visual to a group of people to better explain your idea, AI is great for that. Visual concepts are meant to be quick and rough. Perfect for AI. then you give those to actual artists and designers to make the final results. AI is good for concepts, not finished products.
>>729134329Who cares? Buy good games, don't buy shit games.