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i do not understand the point of trying to conflate a fictional religion with its tangible, daily meddling gods with your own perception of christianity and taking offense on christianity's behalf

it seems kinda like idolatry to treat fictional god-slaying like it has any serious impact on your own or other peoples' spirituality

>>729124795
That works until you play something like Shin Megami Tensei where God is literally named YHWH and his minions are named Angels from the Bible like Michael and Gabriel

>>729124668
religion is kind of a sore subject ever since the WW2 thing happened

>>729124668
muh cherry blossoms

>>729124916
and where god is a cog in a much greater machine, has possibly gone rogue and proclaimed himself the totality of everything heedless of the greater will he's supposed to serve, and this still has little or no relation to the scripture you're supposed to actually be worshiping because SMT is fiction

>>729124668
Many religions and their lores lend themselves well to fantastical stories. Buddhism is one of the few that doesn't because it's conceptually pretty boring compared to most others.

>>729124668
>play jap RPG
never happened, why do they allow internet use in the mental hospital?

>gods are real
>gods do stuff
>gods are also huge dicks
>religion following those gods is kinda dickish too
Why do you confuse this with real life. The only similarity is that IRL gods are usually also dicks

>>729124668
have you ever considered that perhaps its because religion is a destructive lie perpetuated by ruling classes to keep the majority of the people in a given area subservient and docile, through empty promises of an eternal reward if you just shut up and obey said ruling classes without question?

because thats the real truth.
buddhism is barely any better. all religions are ultra-cringe and its a good thing that jrpgs make them the villains, because organized religion IS one of the world's Great Villains in real life

judaism is the worst of all of them by an enormous margin too

>>729124668
>kill gods and religion
>replace fear of eternal damnation with fear of dying
>replace lust for eternal salvation with lust for money
>replace hatred between religious sects with hatred between whatever new groups you want (left/right, male/female, white/brown, gay/straight)
Good plan

>>729124668
japs were nuked by catolic fucks before nukes were invented
then they were nuked with just nukes

>>729125110
yeah that kinds of the really fucked up part isnt it? most people are such enormously stupid animals that you kind of HAVE to have something like religion, as false and evil as it is, to allow for any form of civilization at all, albeit one thats deeply flawed
take it away and people will just make a religion out of something else like left vs right, orange man bad vs let's go brandon, blah blah blah

jews are still the worst though.

>>729125110
Crazy how much that lines up with the Jewish MO there at the end

>>729124916
>this man actually fell for the jewish tricks
No wonder you're so easily manipulated you get angry at generic jrpg storylines.

>>729124668
>If we didn't have religion then we'd all hold hands and sing kumbaya.
This has got to be from the 00's.

>>729124668
The most popular RPG in Japan has the Church be the good guys and your save location.

>>729124668
japan was founded on countless local gods and most of them were denounced or forgotten so It's very easy to just recreate that sentiment for RPGs.
In short they have had multiple false gods so they know a thing or two about the ramifications of worshiping them.

>>729124668
it's their way of "getting back" at the west for being so throughly buckbroken, pathetic as it is

>>729125112
?

protestants got catholics thrown out. nobody takes nobunaga's courtship of catholicism seriously

>>729124668
i cant be the only that sees a headles half-body of a woman wearing a tank top, right?

>>729125087
Nice midwit take

>>729124668
>Implying humans won't just find another reason to hate each other
>Implying this won't just devolve into mortal idolism
You already see this in koreanshipperfags btw. Also, fuck off furry.
>>729125087
The ruling class has many methods of keeping the cattle plebians in line. Religion was just one of them. Nowadays, it's AI and social media. It's cute of you to think that abolishing religion would solve the class disparity.

>>729124668
In WW2, a Christian country nukes a country that persecutes Christians, then they nuked them a second time just for shits and giggles. It’s clearly just a decades old inferiority complex

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>>729124668
>What do the japs have against every religion that isn't Buddhism?
To be fair I've seen plenty of evil buddhist priests/monks in video/anime. Sekiro (Senpou Temple monks), Kara no Kyoukai (Araya Souren) and Muramasa (Yusa Doushin) off the top of my head.

The only religion that never gets portrayed as evil is Shintoism, they really love their Shrine Maidens.

>>729124987
This, deities and demons are formed from humans assigning qualia, it is Gnosticism on steroids. Divine essence heavily corrupted due to existence and being given form because of perception and the feedback loop that follows due to being given existence by humanity.

>>729125110
Literally all of those things also exist if religion stays.

>>729124668
Look up Shinto and learn the difference between a christian god and a kami. It's literally just cultural difference over how the word god is used.

When did this happen?

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>>729126147
>It's cute of you to think that abolishing religion would solve the class disparity.
Who's ass did you pull that turd out of? Highlighting issues with religion when asked about it doesn't imply that fixing that specific issue with fix everything tied to it.

>>729124668
>what do the japs have against importing some foreign entity that demands your obedience and punishes you with eternal damnation if you don't comply
Can't imagine why they might not like that idea..

>>729125110
>eternal damnation and eternal salvation
your view of religion is pretty narrow. these are gay jewish concepts to keep their christian and muslim cattle in line and aren't really present in most religions

jews don't believe in an afterlife or hell (except for jesus and two other unnamed men, who had a hell created for them specifically)
they are spiritual supremacists and their religion is about the one true god of the universe choosing them above all other tribes to rule the world. in the end times, the messiah comes and shatters the gentile nations and enslaves us all (jesus didn't do this, which is why they hate him), and jews become masters of the world. then yahweh resurrects all of the dead jewish souls and creates a paradise on earth for them

>>729124668
>that isn't Buddhism
Think fast chuckle nuts they hate Buddhism just as much as any other organized religion, the only thing they don't hate is Japanese shintoism were there just like spirits on the same level as people who are sometimes friendly sometimes not and it's a matter of giving respect only when it's deserved

>>729124795
>allusion? allegory? What's that I've never heard of that in my life! I'm an ignorant dumb fucking retarded that thinks works are created in a vacuum by entities who don't exist within human society. The writer of this fictional work clearly did not have any kind of notion about real world religion in mind when writing this, he synthesized everything about this fictional religion in this game from nothing out of complete thin air.

>>729124668
>and to put our faith in only ourselves and one another
If you don't have God, you won't decide what's good or bad, right or wrong yourself. The powerful evil people that rule you will. Don't believe me? You're living it.

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I refuse to believe any rational man is going to pick up a piece of text, heavily translated or edited, written by another man about the exploits and personal experiences and tenets of gods and angels or demigods and decide that its 100% correct. That its completely infallible, not prone to scrutiny, that its somehow the eternal truth despite human existence going on for millions of years before religion was even a thing.

>>729126839
>despite human existence going on for millions of years before religion
>millions of years
>humans
World's smartest fedora tipper right here.

>>729126938
The presence of Homo erectus has been detected in around 2 million years ago, so yes.

>>729126771
none of this has any relationship at all with your own worship unless you're insecure about it (common occurrence in recent years with the number of ex-atheists turning "tradcath", or roleplaying protestant, for surface aesthetics) and you believe outside ideas will thwart or subvert your faith

you should probably reassess your own relationship with your religion and church of choice, if JRPGs staging fights against fictionalized variants of real-world gods is enough to get you steamed

>>729127087
>has been detected in around 2 million years ago
LMAO

>>729124668
they're just a very insecure people is all

>>729124916
If you sincerely can't separate genuine spirituality and belief from pop culture tropes, you really need to be quiet regardless of which side of theism you fall on. This sissy slap fight is almost exclusively the province of the prodigiously ignorant.

>>729126813
You say that as if powerful evil people haven't co-opted faith in the past to get people on their side.

>>729126813
As opposed to the evil people ruling you deciding, but telling you it's God doing it?

>>729127110
Why in the fucking world do you think people care about this stuff for the sake of their faith being damaged by it? Who have you ever seen say "noo the issue with this game is that it will make me stop believing in god?" What the fuck are you talking about? How stupid are you?

>>729124668
You need to understand shintoism and basically be born and raised in japan to truly get it. It's just how they are.

>>729124668
>big-nose hair-face men from across the globe insist they know the creator of the universe and he came from Israel
>they tell you life doesn't matter because you keep living after you die for infinity zillion years
>if you please their creator he rewards you and if you make him mad he sends you to the pain volcano forever

I wonder why they make the church the bad guy. How did they get that idea?

>>729127581
>As opposed to the evil people ruling you deciding, but telling you it's God doing it?
Sure, but then they have to find a way to corrupt Word of God to convince people of that.
But people who don't believe in objective morality at all can be easily enticed to accept evil as righteousness, like murdering unborn babies, or that men can get pregnant, or that torturing and lying is fine if it's for national security.

>>729127857
>Sure, but then they have to find a way to corrupt Word of God to convince people of that.
They get to WRITE the "word of God." The Bible didn't materialize out of the ether, you fucking retard, the Church got to decide the books that went on it and the ones that got left out.

>>729127857
>muh objective morality!
>that is extremely subjective to my culture, group ideology, and early childhood indoctrination!
>but is still absolutely objective!

Learn the difference, clown.

>>729127857
The word of god isn't some abstract ideal. It's some shit some fags made up and that was edited, manipulated, translated to say whatever was more convenient, over and over and over

Absolutely nothing prevented the ruling class from interpreting it to say whatever the fuck they want, even.

>>729124668
they thought their emperor was a god and that their destiny was to rule the entire world
japs murdered, raped, and tortured thousands in the name of a silly religion that taught them that they are divine beings and everyone else is subhuman

the rage and shame felt after losing WW2 and being forced to reconcile with everything that was sacrificed for a false god is still echoing through their culture

>>729124668
>play western rpg
>um, demons are not actually bad they're just misunderstood
>doesn't even have God, only multiple pagan gods
>party members make unfunny quip at the end

>>729127581
>evil people
How do you know they are evil, based on what?
Check mate athiest

>>729125110
Anon I'm assuming you're not fucking retarded and fully understand all of those happen WITH religion, right?

>>729128412
Based on ethics. And before you get started I do think any deontological or utilitarian system of ethics, no matter how flawed, is obviously and blatantly superior to "the big man in the sky told me this is bad."

>>729128515
>And before you get started
Don't worry, you couldn't even prove that murder is wrong.

>>729125087
fedora take.

real galaxy brain take is:

we evolved to believe in religion for a reason. that reason being it allows us to function in tribes that exceed the dunbar number. having a shared irrational belief, ideally with some form of costly signalling behavior required to show allegiance to the tribes' god(s), serves as a binding agent and shared cornerstone of identity for people who are too distantly related to feel much natural blood or clan ties to. This allows the tribe to operate at greater scale and outcompete tribes who don't, thus improving survival and reproduction for tribe members.

Another benefit of religion is reinforcing sacrificing for generational long term survival benefits. Even the most low time preference people are unlikely to sacrifice for the sake of their great-great grandchildren. By encouraging beliefs like the existence of an afterlife, you can push behaviors that will benefit your tribe in the far future. This is not consciously decided by some mastermind, but is reinforced by the same forces of natural selection that apply to everything else.

tl; dr; god and the afterlife do not have to be real for it to be beneficial on a macro level to have people believe in them. it doesn't have to be some conspiracy "invented" by "the ruling class".

>>729125503
or the 1960s. midwit shitlibs have been beating this drum since john lennon wrote "Imagine"

>>729128445
When atheists do literally anything wrong it's always because they're atheists, when Christians have orgies atop the seat of the Pope and rape and torture and protect child rapists, zpend literal hundreds of years being the slavery defense squad and have tens of thousands of people die of starvation in silver mines to make churches more shiny, absolutely none of of it is due to Christianity

>>729128658
Murder is wrong because I wouldn't like to be murdered, and you wouldn't either, so we all get together and agree to punish murder to prevent it from happening.

And murder isn't wrong according to your religion either as God does it all the time and he lets his special guys do it too. David went and got a guy killed so he could sleep with his wife and got off with a slap on his wrist so it's not at all a problem.

They got a lot of money to lie about Christianity early on and after years of conditioning you see the fruits of their efforts and you have a godless land that's slowly crumbling to pieces, and that's what they want for us.

>>729128921
>I wouldn't like to be murdered
Why is that doing something I wouldn't like to happen to me wrong?

>>729127087
Homo erectus are not humans. Neither are Homo neanderthalensis. Cro Magnons were the first true humans arguably

>>729129004
Ultimately "harm caused to people" is the only metric to define the wrongness that can be used, as God is not real.

>>729129171
Why is harming people wrong?

>>729129171
why is harming people wrong?

>>729128515
Every system of "ethics" has inconsistincies and something that comes down to "just because". There is no internally consistent universal morality that can be reasoned from first principles other than "might makes right".

>>729129204
Because it's in your best interest to not be harmed, so we collectively agree to limit it as much as possible.

>>729128817
>>729128817
I'm an atheist because I have autism and depression.

Also because Sunday school was SHIT.

>>729124668
>plap jap
>Church bad
>Kill god

>>729124668
But Buddhism is one of the reasons church bad is a staple retard. Corrupt monks and religious grifters were a common thing in their history, same as ours.

>>729126285
There was ZERO touching on Islam in anime, or anything Japan related.

>>729129230
Might makes right isn't a moral principle, it's a fact of logic. If you have the power you make the rules, whoop dee fucking doo, that's what "having the power" means. In fact, making it a moral principle is what happens when you DON'T have the might and need to cover your ass because you're afraid that if people realize it you're done for.

The God Butcherer is still the only Thor comic I've ever read and I thought it was just alright. Is this really the best that the character has to offer?

>>729129301
>Because it's in your best interest to not be harmed
So, morality is subjective to my best interest, which is itself subjective. So, basically something is wrong because I feel so? You could have said that from the beginning, lol.

>>729129171
I have a better metric actually:

Does this behavior increase or decrease the likelihood of the tribe's genes collectively surviving and replicating?

This is an objective basis to evaluate whether something should be right or wrong, based in science. Is it evolutionarily beneficial or maladaptive?

By this standard, murder of one's fellow tribe member is wrong, however, killing members of an enemy or rival tribe is not murder and is actually right. Killing an appropriate number of animals to provide resources to the tribe is right, overkilling animals and reducing their populations so future generations will be deprived of resources is wrong.

>>729129403
Corrupt monks were also why Nobunaga got his devil title for standing against them.

>>729129515
Ultimately all morality is subjective, but making a subjective judgement on what is best for you overall is much better then blindly following some book a retard wrote 2.000 years ago and a bunch of nepobabies have been editing at their leisure to authorize whatever they feel like doing

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>>729128698
>having a discussion about Christianity in Japan (1550-present)
>buts in with anthropological story time

>"behold my galaxy brain"

>>729129301
Who is "we"? Who gets to be a part of "we" and who doesn't? And where and why do you draw the distinction?

>>729129023
Homo erectus are humans as we evolved from them. Denisovans are also human. Neandertals on technicality aren't.

>>729129572
Why is this a better standard? Your genes care not one whit for you and spreading them benefits you not in the slightest. You won't be better off if 1 billion children have your genes in the future (because you'll be dead).

>>729124916
thought we didnt like jews here. You guys are a trip

>>729129692
>Who is "we"?
Whatever society I'm part of.
>Who gets to be a part of "we" and who doesn't?
That's for the society to decide.

>>729129694
we also evolved from primordial soup is that human? of course not. just cause it's in the lineage of humans doesn't mean they count.

>>729124927
STOPPU RAUGHINGU AT GLORIOUS NIHON!

>>729127724
When you cry about "killing god", but it's always some phony pretender and not God, it makes YOU the faithless retard.

>>729124668
>this is what retards actually believe

yeah man no way people will be even worse to each other not a chance

>>729129727
Because it's the only one based on science and evolution. It's quite literally the reason we exist.

>>729126813
So how come people, even countries, of faith commit atrocities unfazed like mass genocide and mass rape (Mei Lai massacre, the raping of pilgrims by Henry Avery, the widespreaded molestation of boys in church, and more)

The truth here is people who obsess with right or wrong are always the worst kind of criminals themselves. Our current shitshow is the result of faith mouthbreathers taking over global theatre.

>>729129787
Is it okay to harm members of rival or enemy societies?

can you blame japan for not opening their borders to foreigners in the past? look at what happened to korea LOL

>>729129892
And? Evolution isn't a process that cares about you. It's just a thing that happens. There is no particular reason we should hold it as a moral good, no reason that wouldn't apply to gravity or radioactive decay.

>>729129924
teachers actualy commit more molestation than religious leaders, thanks for playing.

>>729124668
Congratulations, you're even dumber than the japs. And that's an accomplishment.

>>729129889
your average person's baseline for cruelty is already higher than people are willing to admit

>>729130004
Child molestation overwhelmingly comes from the child's family itself.

>>729129947
Define "rival or enemy society"

>>729129993
Yes, but we evolved to have moralities for a reason. It stands to reason that a beneficial morality is one that fulfills that function. A maladaptive morality (for example, indiscriminate altruism towards hostile strangers) does not.

>>729130143
People I don't like

>>729129572
Evolution doesn't have a purpose, it simply describes a process. With this logic might as well say the meaning of life is to increase entropy as much as possible because of the second law of thermodynamics

>>729129830
You drink your fucking human soup and you are going to fucking like it!!!

Modern religion is the twisted words of tyrants.

>>729130143
Those that compete with your society for scarce resources, whether those resources are food, land, females for breeding, etc.

>>729124668
As much as that is a trope it's not as prevalent as you'd imagine, I'd say that Church good, the final boss is MegaSatan and those who worshipped MegaSatan were misguided is as prevalent as the former, you gotta remember that even if japs wanna be respectful towards religion, they aren't really familiar with it, and it's not like they have time to learn about it when Mr. Yenbinobu needs them to give every waking second of their time to their company even if they're not really doing anything. Makes me think of other common tropes, such as scientists are evil psychopaths that consult with demons and should be wiped from the face of the earth, which is probably residual trauma due to WW2 but I'd like to think that The Space Trilogy from C.S. Lewis is just that popular over there

>>729124668
don't really care about the opinions of a country BTFO by Finns of all people, and they weren't even trying

>>729124795
letting people mock you rarely turns out well

>>729130175
>Yes, but we evolved to have moralities for a reason
Evolution has no reason behind it. Evolution is the endless roll of the die simply happening to come up with a "lucky result" because we don't see the unlucky ones. There are countless behaviours and physical traits it produces that aren't even conductive to survival, because evolution is nothing but randomness impacting material reality.

There is no particular moral or rationale behind anything evolution does. You might as well create a moral system based on gravity, ascribing moral values to heavy or light objects.

>>729130498
The alternative is no morality at all.

>>729126839
Yeah, until it gets you puss, friends, a job, safety, a home meaning, belonging, cool lore...
But no, go live in a furnished closet and be called a "human resource" by harpies

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>>729130004
and american politicians and Trump do way more kid fucking than either of those groups. What's your point?

Japan got harassed by catholic missionaries for centuries, got nuked twice by a christian nation as a show of power, and the worst terrorist attack in Japanese history was committed by christcucks. It's no wonder they don't exactly love Christianity.

>>729124668
that's based tho

>>729130259
There are so many circumstances and possible calculations involved it's impossible to give a straight answer. In a situation where two tribes in a blasted wasteland need to compete for the last fertile oasis, nobody would deny going to war is a reasonable outcome, sure.

>>729124795
If the Christian god exists we should kill him

>>729125087
Oy vey!

>>729130004
Not according to the testament of history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Geoghan

Amir0x and dr.pizza also are very vocal moral preachers. You're probably also one of them child diddling hypocrite trying to defend your ilks.

>>729130569
A morality system that focuses on minimizing harm (a tangible thing we can experience and generally agree is not pleasant) is a better alternative then a system focusing on appeasing some bullshit cosmic RNG algorithm that doesn't care about us and that we barely care about either.

>>729130475
>religion so ingrained into culture that "jesus christ" is a common exclamation of surprise, shock or outrage
>still fears any criticism or mockery
lol lmao

>>729124927
>Eternal life is bad because... BECAUSE IT JUST IS OKAY

>>729125110
Anon, those are all falsehoods created to keep retards like you and me in line. The basis of every major religion boils down to "love one another and don't be a piece of shit", which should honestly be common fucking sense.

>>729130569
Morality is a spook

>>729124668
>yellows are anti-white
wow what a surprise

>>729130854
Christians believe in martyrdom as the highest possible moral good, so when they end up in the dominant position and there is no reason to have valiant last stands against the unbelievers they have to cope like this.

>>729124668
Name 14 games that do this

>>729131007
they believe that for jesus specifically and it's also protestantism that's the biggest believer in constant self-flagellation and martyrdom, catholicism is pretty cool about neighborliness and community help

>>729124927
did you know japan has FOUR seasons?!

>>729130569
People don't know what morality is. Morality is the superego. It's the part of society that is called peer pressure and is stronger than both your rational mind and instinct. It's why you obey laws having to bend all you are to arbitrary social rules until it becomes second nature. Religion is a social primer, like programming for a superset of rules for your brain to follow. Whatever the fuck you decide or think you decide can be easily overwritten by that through the superego. That's how hopeless drunkards, who drink because they're escaping instincts and social pressures they loathe "find god" and stop drinking, when psychs and interventions didn't do shit. You can absolutely have other morality beyond religion's, but religion is a fucking powerful set of it. It just loses to the shiny benefits of technology and its amorality, which just isn't human-compatible. Things are shit now because we don't have a moral clearly stating technology and science have too serve man always, not the other way around.

>>729131078
I'm sorry to pop your bubble but like half of all saints ever became saints specifically for dying gruesomely in the name of the faith

>>729124668
Funny how the audience, living in a basically Atheist society, understands that this isn't true.
>t. Irreligious anon

>>729131078
catholics were trying to commit suicide-by-legion to prove how faithful they were back in antiquity
it's a death cult

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>>729124668
Gorr in the comics was kino

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>>729124668
You have to extrapolate and leave out so much for this group of tropes to be found across JRPGs. Even with gods, most of the time it's some godlike being or an ascended mortal than actually god though that's also me being too autistic to accept a 'pretend' deity

I don't even know if there's any JRPG that is literally these tropes to a tee.

>>729131078
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagellant

>>729124668
>>play jap RPG
>>Church bad
>>Kill god
>>Party members give this speach at the end
Name 10 games from the past 5 years.

what do I get in heaven anyway.

>>729131374
you spend eternity worshipping god

>>729131374
about three fiddy

>>729131374
A ps3 with one (1) game

>>729130498
This is possibly one of the most insane things I have ever read. Evolution is directed towards fitness and adaptability. Just because something includes randomness as a mechanism doesn't mean there's no rationale behind it.

>>729124668
>play jap RPG
>some guy ascends to power
>20 minute cutscene
>blows up a few planets
>shrug
>says "I am god" right before the fight
>FUCK ME ANOTHER JRPG ABOUT KILLING GOD WHEN WILL THOSE DAMN DIRTY JAPS LEARN NOT TO MOCK MUH BASED CHRISTIANITY
You are a gorilla. An ape. A baboon.

>>729131374
you're close to god for eternity or some shit like that
>>729131462
mind you "fitness" is a very slippery definition, bedbugs are an extremely successful species and the only reason they're not extinct is DDT was outlawed after all

>>729131374
40 chigyu-looking virgins

>>729131393
Nessie pls go

>>729131462
You mistake "rationale" with "result." Evolution results in adapting things to their environment. That's all it does. It will do this over millions of years, and "winning" or "losing" at evolution will not impact you, the you that is here, the you that matters, in the slightest.

>Circlejerk /v/ thread and no one mentioned any fucking games they played where this happen
>Half the thread is shitting on them for not being (((Christian)))
Typical anti-japan propaganda posted by chinks.

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>>729124795
Because even if i put aside my misgivings on how they choose to depict christianity you're still dealing with uninspired slop, as nips are simply incapable of understanding religion. Miyazaki is smarter than most and what did he do? He called on a westerner to write an actual religion.

>>729131709
cool

>>729131302
>No one posted any example
I guess the chinks don't play too many video games!

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>>729131709
>>729131775
>>729131834
why are japcels like this?

>>729124916
Western occultism is kind of an exotic and quirky thing in Japan in a similar way Buddhism and Hinduism kinda once was in the West.
Its kind of a interesting phenomenon where foreign cultures will take a deep dive into interesting bits of another culture's esoterica, (often times niche shit actual practitioners of the religious traditions are completely ignorant of) and pull out their own superficial but somewhat unique takes and ideas on the whole thing through their own cultural lenses. The japs are just more based about it. instead of looking to other cultures for gay self-help and feels goody shit, japs looked at western religions and focused on all the unhinged paranoid conspiracies and apocalytism

>>729131462
Gravity has a rationale (a reason) as to why it works, but you would rightfully agree that constructing a moral system based on gravity is insane and stupid. The same applies to evolution. It's just a process. It's natural, but so is literally everything else that has happened and will ever happen.

>>729131650
If care extends beyond the self, which it does under the framework of "harm caused to people", then evolution is relevant to care for your offspring.

>>729131263
>capeshit subhumans call this reddit crap "kino"

>>729131918
>Chink get so assblasted for not falling to his shitty propaganda
Go back to xitter.

>>729131993
You can care for your offspring using the framework of "caring for your offspring" instead of evolution.

No one has given any example of the OP where this happened, just random shitting on JRPGs because the userbase has become so dogshit and is interchangeable with twittertrannies. Dogshit board.

>>729132103
It doesn't happen, it's just some bullshit people made up. I can't name a single classic RPG where you actually fight God

>>729132103
literally every Atlus game, every game set in Ivalice, etc. You'd have to be blind to not see it

>>729131918
calling everything "anti-Japanese propaganda" is the new falseflag to try and make weebs look bad

>>729130612
If a belief would influence my physical behavior in any way, even as minor as spending an hour once a week in a religious location or five minutes a day meditating, it must first provide nontrivial physical evidence for itself. I can decide independently that it's worth it to me to do a related activity - maybe I would decide that mediation seems like it would help my mental health, and choose to do so anyway, but I shouldn't do so purely because of an unfalsifiable belief.

>>729132158
Because they do the thing where God is fake. There's also hints for non autists like Jenova is obiously Jehovah

>>729132078
Evolution is relevant to caring for your offspring.

>>729132207
Not a single Persona game applies. All the endgame villains are manifestations of human thoughts like the fear of death or the desire to surrender to control. FF tactics has you fight against a demonic entity masquerading as a Jesus (not God) and the demons are allegories for the effects of war on humans, not for God.

>>729132207
>literally every atlus game
You are a liar faggot and I'm not gonna listen to you. If this was true then it would be an SMT thread, instead we got some faggots here doing a Japan bashing thread, it feels like I'm on fucking /pol/. Fuck you.

>>729132308
Jenova is John Carpenter's The Thing, it has absolutely nothing in common with God. In fact, if it was God, it wouldn't need to become so, which is the entire point of the Meteor plan.

>>729132353
It really isn't. Caring for your offspring, aside from material and resource constraints, is just a matter of interpersonal relationships.

>>729129419
Ever since Araki got bomb threats for having a vampire read the Quran and not burst into flames Islam is a very sensitive subject. Only franchises like Fate even touch it, and even then Muhammad is the only figure from their original list of banned characters left on that list after 20 years.

Yeah man, when I'm reading a /v/ thread, it's to read posts like this >>729126839

4chan should've stayed dead.

>>729131709
>Typical anti-japan propaganda posted by chinks.
dude, you're from SEA what are you talking about?

>>729132485
Mate, ancient people had already figured this out before even being aware of what evolution is. Incest is almost universally viewed as wrong.

they weren't lying when they said 4chan is reddit but with slurs

>>729132613
>Accuses me of being a SEAnigger
Now I know you're actually a chink lmao

>>729132613
he's just trying to farm some (You)s

>>729124668
Asians are not creative.

>>729132408
you're oblivious. It literally lives at The North Pole, youre just not esoteric enough to understand those implications

>you were birthed from nonexistence just to form a consciousness that grants you the ability to realize there is only nonexistence before and after anyways
what a stupid fucking universe nothing makes any sense and no satisfying answers even exist

>>729131374
According to the book of Revelation (written by John the Revelator, a madman)
>"the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of the sky" -Revelation21:1
It flies.

>"its gates are never shut and there is no night there. Nothing unclean will ever enter" -Revelation 21:22
(don't plan on sleeping)

>"the tree of life with its twelve kinds of fruit... the throne of god and the lamb will be in it, his servants will worship him, they will see his face and his name will be on their foreheads" -Revelation 22:5
So plenty of fruit salad while you worship the lamb and his name will be tattooed on your forehead.

Not a whole lot else in the supposed guide for the afterlife. Kinda lackluster in my opinion.

>foreign country rocks up and starts demanding you worship their desert tribal god who thinks you're all shit but you might be okay to forgive if you fall to your knees and worship him, like sheep, and give them lots of money
>say no thanks, bro!
They've got a point.

>>729124668
to be fair you'd be pretty mad at God too if he stuck you with a ricedick for the one life you got

>>729132658
>bongoloid
>brings up perversion without reason
>WOAHH WE'RE NIGGER STARDUST AND BASICALLY I'M MONKE
Next guy.

>>729133108
Some people would really wrack their brains over literally nothing than accept a creator exists.

this thread:
>DUDE, dont you know that even WITH religion, people will still fall prey to their greedy animal natures?
so what is your solution?
>do away with any beliefs that dissuade people from their greedy animal natures and replace it with NOTHING! anyways I gotta go goon, or perhaps purchase another funko! seeya!
...ummm, okay?

>>729133265
hit the nail on the head honestly

>>729130805
those aren't mutually exclusive
>>729131650
>the you that is here, the you that matters
who says current you is the only you that matters?
>>729132078
those aren't mutually exclusive

>>729124916
>the same SMT that treats ancient Celtic & Japanese as daemon
When reality has become subverted, people turn to fiction as Gospel. I reccomend
>actually reading the KJV Bible
>remembering SMT is fiction

Also, if you were an actual fan, you would know YHVH is treated as a rogue angel and The Great Will, aka God, wants you to defeat him.

>>729133545
>gnosticfag
a brutal god created a brutal universe and wants you to be brutal. and there is no other. nut up.

>>729124668
well, what did the god and church do?

>>729124668
I hate this faggotry, yeah. These people believe all evil stems from religion for some reason, as if humans will not find any other reasons to kill each other and separate each other in groups and hate everyone outside of that group, or as if humans will not try and find other things to devote themselves religiously to, be it another person, an object, a place, a hobby, or whatever the fuck.

At least with religions you get some philosophy, morals, and codes of conduct out of it, and those are useful for guiding people to better behave themselves in a society.

>>729133682
god created patriarchy. this cannot stand.
the best possible universe is one where women have infinite chads provided for them, like the muslim 72 virgins.

>>729133619
>the latrino STILL can't discern fiction from real scripture even in basic discussion
Fucked in the brain like a dog at a head cheese festival

>>729133842
the question would be
>why would someone be countersignalling something this hard?
fiction or not, someone wrote it for the purpose of...

>>729133362
>humans were BAD before Mesopotamian mystics invented Yahweh
>well... they're still horrible, but imagine if the Jews weren't around to guide us

What kind of derangement fuels this sort of thinking? Childhood indoctrination is the only thing that makes sense. You have terminal Jew of the frontal lobe, sorry.