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The original girlboss.
>Literal nepo baby
>Muh one world
>Muh world without borders

She's just a globalist shill.
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Do I have to even say it…?
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>>729134857
Built?
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>>729134792
The boss really sucks as a character.
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>>729136292
tbf she's a woman in a japanese story
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>girlboss
>the other villain is gay

games were always woke
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>>729136961
>girlboss killed by a white man
erm this is woke sir
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>>729134792
I finally played metal gear solid 1-3 and have concluded that kojima is a faggot. But these games were really cool if you can accept that the writing is kind of gay.
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>>729134792
thing is, the woke part isn't what defines her character, unlike garbage like the last of us or concord. but you already knew that, you disingenuous fuck
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>>729134792
What the fuck was her dream? I have a general idea of what Big Boss and Zero each THOUGHT it was, but what actually was it?
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>>729139795
to see Snake in a tuxedo
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>>729139795
The Boss' DREAM was of a more united, peaceful world. The Boss' WILL was letting things carry on as they are, which MGS4 echoes as "let the world be." Everybody has their place, soldier and civilian. The Boss was a soldier, she had a mission to fulfill. Trying to change the world leads to more damage than just focusing on the things you can change.

RAIDEN: You think you can change the future?
SNAKE: I'm not as arrogant as that

Even before MGS3 was written Kojima was kicking around the idea.
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>>729139795
She was a mindraped CIA slave who gives a shit, a delusional world of colorblind people who live Lennon's Imagine.
Big boss stopped giving a fuck when he threw away the bandana at the end of peace walker
>Kojima's accent gets mocked once
>he reorients his views to be color and faceblind
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>>729134792
True. Reminder that Kojima is a communist. And not in a chuddy, everyone-is-a-communist kind of way. He is a member of the Japanese Communist party and includes songs from communist propaganda films in MGS.
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>>729139795
She lays it out pretty clearly: To hand it back to the philosophers so they can pursue their globohomo agenda.

All the nonsense that EVA gives you about her being a patriot conflict very strongly with her actual actions. She very specifically is a puppet fo the patriots, and everything she does is due to her desire to do what her daddy would have wanted.
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>>729136961
>kojimalikes
>games
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>>729139960
So it's literally just vague hippie nonsense?
>The Boss' DREAM was of a more united, peaceful world.
Literally everyone other muslim nutjobs and arms industry wants that.
>The Boss' WILL was letting things carry on as they are
Which would never ever lead to "united, peaceful world".
>Everybody has their place, soldier and civilian
You wouldn't need soldiers in a "united, peaceful world" though
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>>729140149
Why would you spread lies on the internet? There is no evidence Kojimjim is a member of the communist party of Japan.
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>>729134792
Borders can only be effectively enforced through global control
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>>729140375
Ever heard of mountains, rivers, oceans and canyons?
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>>729139960
esl
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>>729140331
>So it's literally just vague hippie nonsense?
Yes.
>Literally everyone other muslim
Huh?
>Which would never ever lead to "united, peaceful world".
Yes. The Boss' dream and will are at odds. That was self-evident from my post. Every human being on the planet has this problem. The Boss wants a hippie nonsense world without communism or capitalism or borders, but that's not how reality works, and trying to change reality like Liquid Snake holding the world hostage with Metal Gear REX, leads to more damage than good. Hence, let the world be. Focus on your own fights, orders, etc. Again, MGS2 already had this:

RAIDEN: I get it -- analyze the code and you can probably find out where they operate. Count me in --

SNAKE: No, you have things to do first. And people you need to talk to...
>>729140485
Don't be stupid.
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>>729140529
>The Boss' dream and will are at odds. That was self-evident from my post. Every human being on the planet has this problem.
Not Stirnerites.
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>>729140945
When they get up in the morning, after they have to take a shit, or when they go to work and something goes wrong, or when they see an attractive woman and know they can't go for her because he's married, trust me, they falter. Every human falters. That's why mantras and meditation are a thing. To keep one on their chosen path. Some people falter more than others, and that's how you get addicts, fuckups, etc. or contradictory people like The Boss.
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>>729140432
Humans can cross those
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>>729141059
>or when they see an attractive woman and know they can't go for her because he's married, trust me, they falter
How?
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>>729134792
Lets be honest here. NO ONE got anything out of the Boss' character or pre-fight monologue. But it was still KINO.
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>>729141201
Because he's married, and so he dreams of wining, dining, fucking, impregnating this woman. His dream, momentarily, at odds with his will of Stirnerism. Falter does not equal doomed forever, I bring all this up to illustrate that everybody deals with reconciling the mind's desires with reality's limitations. Absolutely everyone. That's why mantras, meditation - discipline - are important to keeping one on their path.

For the record, because I haven't made it clear. I don't like The Boss as a character. Not because of her dream and her will conflicting, but
>muh war hero who gave birth on the beaches of normandy who was also the first human in space who also was actually part of a super secret school to create super special people
It's patently ridiculous.
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>>729134792
You retards are gonna have a stroke from the PW tapes. The entirety of PW was kojima having a mid age commie phase that disappeared once tpp came out
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>>729141752
>The entirety of PW was kojima having a mid age commie phase
Bet he saw those Che movies. They made me like t shirt man.
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>>729139960
>Trying to change the world leads to more damage than just focusing on the things you can change.
>Even before MGS3 was written Kojima was kicking around the idea.
Then death stranding happened and the entire theme is one guy can connect everyone and change the world. and does.
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>>729141687
>Because he's married, and so he dreams of wining, dining, fucking, impregnating this woman. His dream, momentarily, at odds with his will of Stirnerism.
If he doesn't go for her and he's a Stirnerist, then his actual dream is to be faithful to his wife.
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>>729142360
That is incidental. Sam is just doing his job. he doesn't really care about what the other characters are up to. It's Amelie who wants extinguish humanity. It's Troy Baker who tries to upset the balance of the status quo. Sam reconnects the United States, not out of some grand desire, but by doing his job.
>>729142591
I can't make it any clearer than this, anon: People are imperfect, and require reminders to stay on their path. That goes for Buddhists, that goes for Stinerists, that goes for absolutely everyone. Because when you're sitting on the toilet with a case of diarrhea, when you go to work and you aren't having a fulfilling day, your thoughts fray and turn towards
>Man maybe I should do something else
and that's when discipline kicks in. The only, and I say that with maximum emphasis, the only way you disagree with this notion is that you're too young to have experienced faltering on your path. That's great for you, but all that means is it hasn't happened yet.
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>>729142749
>That is incidental
no it's not. Don't cope. Kojima goes back on his ideas all the damn time.
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what a sad character the boss was.
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>>729143013
Again MGS2 already covered this.

RAIDEN: You think you can change the future?
SNAKE: I'm not as arrogant as that

Sam delivers packages, not because he wants to reconnect the United States, but because he's sort of forced into it if I recall correctly. Sam has no grand desires of changing the world. He doesn't hug Amelie at the game's climax because hugging her will stop her from destroying humanity, he hugs her to be there for her.
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>The Boss has idealistic dreams that deep down she knows will never come to fruition but is still willing to fight for what she believes in while accepting that people should be left to their own devices
>This makes retards piss and shit themselves because they can't comprehend the idea of a character who has conflicting beliefs and motivations
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>>729143074
Fuck that cunt for disavowing her old art and for not finishing Cucumber Quest.
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>>729142749
>Because when you're sitting on the toilet with a case of diarrhea
How is this a case of your dream and will being at odds? Your dream is to not be having diarrhea, your will is to finish having diarrhea because you know the only way out is through.
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>>729143173
>Again MGS2 already covered this.
Again Kojima went back on this in death stranding. One guy connected people and was the determining factor in changing the world. It was said by muitple in the game he was the one to make that choice and did so.

You can cry and scream about old msg all you want but kojima has proven to go back on his ideals multiple times.
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>>729143407
>>729143315
Look I'm sorry lads but you are each too dumb for this conversation and I've got responsibilities. If you care, you'll work it out yourselves and hopefully someday you'll understand, but just as well if you don't. Goodbye.
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Nothing stupider than trying to make sense of Kojima's hack writing lol
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>>729143526
What a faggot.
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>>729138580
>Snake
>white
He is literally a mutt
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>>729143407
Because Sam isn't trying to become some sort of global dictator. Because the reason why Big Boss and Zero become the villains of MGS is because they wanted to control the world in order to make their own utopias which in the end just led to more violence, death, and bloodshed. There's a difference between
>As an individual I have the ability to effect the world around me and make connections with tons of people
Vs
>Human society has to be completely restructured under my vision
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>>729144379
>make their own utopias which in the end just led to more violence, death, and bloodshed
But isn't that what Big Boss's utopia was?
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>>729144664
Did the Boss threaten to nuke the world or create a series of AI that secretly controlled every single facet of society?
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>>729144379
Doesn't matter what sam was trying or not trying to become. The end result was what happened.
There's a difference between
>not wanting to do something
vs
>actually doing that something in the end
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Would Snake have done everything better if he was in Big Boss's place?
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>>729142749
you are a pseud, keep gurgling on Kojimbo's rice balls
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>>729134792
Yes. And you kill her. So what's the problem?
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>>729145102
>Human society will always be imperfect and we must accept that trying to create some sort of superstructure to control it will just create a worse world filled with violence and tyranny
>This somehow means that humans have zero agency and that we shouldn't do anything in order to make the world a better place
>NO BUILDING BRIDGES IS LITERALLY THE SAME AS CREATING A SUPER AI THAT DECIDED TO BASE THE ENTIRE WORLD ECONOMY AROUND WAR
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>>729145037
Yes actually, in Metal Gear 2 (the real one) Big Boss stole every single nuke in the world and began invading neighboring countries (after kidnapping the only man in the world who could synthesize oil when it dried up)
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>>729146640
I'm a retard and read the original post as The Boss instead of Big Boss. But yeah you are right and Big Boss's plan to "free" the world from the Patriots wasn't any better.



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