Why are AI games so successful. I thought us gamers were taking a stand against AI slop?
Does posting all these ragebait threads that lead to nothing all day make you happy?Does spamming AI threads on /v/ make your parents proud?
>>729138545This is why markets need to be regulated. the concept of a free market was not imagined in reference to consumers today, who have repeatedly proven that they cannot spend in their own interest.
>>729138545
*if you include call of duty** please ignore that this is the worst performing call of duty in 20 years
I play video to have fun not to give artists jobs, AI is based.
>>729139735That's Black Ops 7, Black Ops 6 is the best selling PS5 game as of right now
>>729139528lefties are not well
>>729138545you don't hate journalists enough
>>729138638https://youtu.be/V2jfiK4yLmk?si=xN8TQU-syxyoGLAW&t=33
>>729139528Imagine the soullessness you must live with to see a ten year olds drawing and think "I should run this through generative ai to push my shitty techochratic hellscape agenda." Human being in form only.
>>729138545Because there are too many brainless goyim out there that can't control their wallets.
>>729140603It’s not that deep bro
>>729140603You're an m.jpg poster. You are lower than Indians, lower than niggers, and lower than jannies to me. Your opinion means less than nothing.
that's such a useless figure on its own, I hate journalists so much
>>729138545CORNHOLIO
>>729140603Calm down.
>parasitize things that are already successful>claim credit for their success even if they actually start selling worseIt's trannies all over again. Should have seen it coming without how fixated they are on passing.
>>729138545The Pro-AI vs. Anti-AI debate is so, so tiresome because 90% of both sides are debilitatingly retarded.On one hand Anti-AI-fags are hardline beyond any reason; I guarantee if Bethesda say they're using "genAI" to design TESVI's world the pushback would be many orders of magnitude higher than any of the historical complaints about them using procgen to do the same.On the other hand AI-fags have zero standards and don't realize that constantly shoving liquid shit like >>729139528 into everyone's faces just makes people hate it even more.I just can't wait for us to finally reach some sort of equilibrium so both sides can shut the fuck up.
>>729138545>I thought us gamersScreeching twitter faggots aren't gamers. I don't care if the game I play uses AI. I care if the game is good or not
Can I see the more relevant data, i.e. the increase of revenue from the use of AI? Surely the article isn't trying to take things that were already selling well and dishonestly attribute their success to some throwaway AI banners in the cash shop.
>>729141656>COD, a series that's been garbage for years and keeps selling merely through inertia, adds some generative AI in its development>the tards who would buy it still get it because the slop getting even sloppier hardly makes a difference at this point>this is supposedly a massive win for AI
>>729138545anti-AI xisters, we really are just a vocal minority, it's over....
>>729141656Are you retarded? If they can make the exact same game as they would with human labor, but with cheaper costs thanks to AI, then that means more profits and also that there's no loss of quality. It doesn't even need to be "better" to be a straight upgrade.
>>729142813Ok so anecdotes and platitudes, but no data because we don't need data. Convenient. AI good, gotcha.
>>729142865>needs data to know that AI is cheaper than human laborMindbroken tranny.
>>729142921Ack, I am defeated! I have made a mistake of asking for data to compare two numbers! Alas, that was foolish of me. I should have just had faith that AI good.
>>729138638hey, be grateful he is keeping this place humming with traffic, how else do you think hiromoot makes his money, mods get paid too you know
>all your friends tell you they hate cow dung>assume you must hate cow dung too>have the best yoghurt ever. It's creamy, it's delicious, and it's very probiotic>find out it's made with cow dung>get angryThis is basically the anti-AI argument at this point. These idiotic sirs are just a bunch of luddites
>>729140781based boomer rememberer
>>729143329dis cow-chad knows, he's a knower
>ai can easily destroy jewish control of media, finance, legal, medicine etc.>goyim fight against it because their favourite troon twitter artist might be out of jobgood goyim
>>729138638he's doing exactly what I want him to do
>>729143417I'm sure your little local cuckmodel will totally destroy all the jewish controlled AI behemoths, champ.
Can you fucking faggots shut the fuck up about the FUCKING AI already?It's so tedious. Most threads on /v/ for weeks now are "AI this, AI that, AI was used by them, support AI, boycott AI".FUCK OFF.
>>729140702m is worse than N
>>729140603I think it's funny in the same way seeing Charlie Kirk being shot was funny.
>>729143468>CHINKmodelsand yes they do
>>729143492Fuck you! I'm gonna post slop because of you.
>>729143468https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_71Nog8JZw>>729143492/v/ is an /ai/ board
>>729138545how come gruk pays no taxes
>all these money being funnel into AI >still no robot waifu what a waste of earth resource
>>729143810jews are not in the business of making you happy
>>729143704Imagine being so gay that you not only browse /v/, but also watch Theo the cuck.
>>729143849I accept your concession.
>>729143810Why would I give you a wait? I want you to be miserable.
>>729139528Why do troons always push shit to the extreme? They would never actually back up their words irl
>>729143704chat, is this true?
>>729138638Yes, I post AI threads all day. Yes, I have 15 X accounts where I boost AI artists and programmers.Izzat a problem?
>>729143921Femoid mind, they can only screech and shame you.That's why they hate chzuds so much, you can't nag autists.
>>729138545People who play blops don't even know what AI stands for.
CoD prints money and the audience puts up with anything, like the Pokémon crowd do. Pokémon could easily get away with AI too because people would still buy it.
>>729143883Whoever you think youre arguing with. Not him.
>>729141419But the liquid shit makes prople seethe.
>>729144064I was addressing the cuck who thinks only jew controlled kike AI exists.FOSS AI is better in every way, and chinks are the only ones keeping jews humbled.
>>729143921>They would never actually back up their words irlNeither would nazi chuds
Artists really dropped the ball on how they decided to fight AI.No one cares about the water usage (which is minuscule anyway) and making it sound like drawing was a hobby instead of a job made a lot of people not care about it.But no one is actually going to be fired over AI. It will be like excel.The economy is fake anyway.
>>729140603you don't understand, in order for the ten year old to adapt into the new era you must remove its' soul so it can learn to use the future that is generative AI or be unemployed and miserable like those seething artists...
>>729144239you want them to start gassing Jewish people???
>>729138545Because the only people that whine about AI are terminally online twitter retards who don't buy games anyway.None of these people know the first thing about their latest bugbear and have no idea what AI is, how it works, what it's used for or who is even using it (it's the artists themselves, above all) and are just going off endlessly echoed memes and factoids.
>>729144287>water usage
>>729144239Difference is that one will kill you for preferring red over blue, the other one wants to discuss and have enrich conversations.>lul chuds are scared in real lifeYou literally kill us just for engaging in debate and having a different opinion.
>>729138545The "artists" who cry about AI do not play video games
>>729138545I'm going to actually spend money on AI games instead of pirating them like I do normally, just because you, yes you personally, are an annoying cunt who makes worthless threads like this one.
>>729144150I hope OpenAI collapses so attaining a Blackwell GPU becomes realistic.Theo is still a tranny bootlicker.
>>729144395Killing is morally justified as long as you win.
>WHY ARE YOU USING GOOGLE INSTEAD OF READING BOOKS>WHY ARE YOU TAKING A PICTURE INSTEAD OF DRAWING>WHY ARE YOU TAKING MEDS INSTEAD OF HERBS
AI makes PC parts more expensive. It should kindly fuck off.
What the fuck do you mean Stellaris used AI, that game's from 2016.
>>729144389I can't draw 5000 papers each day you disingenuous cuck.
>>729144389AI doesn't even consume water. This is why I said it's a retarded point, it can work only in the inner circle of liberal artists who are neurotic
>>729144570PC parts would be free if people just chimped out and looted data centers.
>>729144570The fuck do you need expensive PC parts for nigger? Slop like CoD?
>>729144607>Stellaris released in 2016 and nothing new for it was made ever sinceBrother how stupid are you, really?
>>729144663Training them does. Hence all the data centers being built cooled by drinking water.
>This shitty art in the game nobody notices was made by AI instead of some faggot commie with a nosepiercing OH NO IT'S RUINED, IT'S FUCKING RUINED!!!!! SAVE ME HASAN, SAVE ME!!!!
>>729144749The point is that the water does not disappeared after being used for cooling.
>>729144504I don't see OAI surviving Google unless it can break through with something meaningfully new.They are almost done for, it's just Altman's money grab now.
>>729144556I know and I agree, but the difference is that we wanted to engage in conversation with you, open to discussion and finding a solution for everyone. Instead, you murdered us right away. We gave you power, the justice system is on your side, you have Hollywood, you have politicians, you have the news, let in the immigrants, granted you rights, yet you used every all and every bit of it to kill us dead.
>>729144685You can't be PCMR with a 1060.
>>729144674akshually that would make PC parts even more expensive in the long run>loot data centers>everyone now has PC parts>no demand>PC part manufacturers go bankrupt since there's nobody to buy their product>nobody can supply PC parts now>price skyrockets>>729144749nuclear reactors are being recommissioned to power datacenters, in the long run that's great for environment because the plants will stay operating long after the bubble pops
>>729144750>HASANtoo soon, c'monnot cool
>>729144749>Cooling with water means water vanishesAnon... how are you this retarded? Seriously what happened? Did you get dropped on your head as a child? Did you drink litres of bleach? What the actual fuck.
>>729144769It's not drinkable afterwards and you can't cool it with salt water.
>>729144749>drinking waterpotable water, you flush your toilet and shower with it too
>>729144882Strawman argument
>>729144884>what is water cycle>what is water filtration>actually, i don't even know what "drinkable" water meansthe absolute state of anti Ai luddites
>>729144893potable means drinkable
>>729144950>There is neither a strawman nor an argument present in the post this retard replied toWhat the fuck did this sperg mean?
>>729143921So they act just like you?>b-b-but 400M gunsYou won't do shit.
>>729144985Water you can drink. It's not a hard concept.
>>729144504>tranny bootlickerto be fair, everyone outside of the anonymous bubble is a "bootlicker," you can't function as normal working person, let alone a businessman without kneeling to corpo-tranyism, the One True American religion.
>>729144723Why would you make new stuff for something that flopped
I hope AI replaces third worlders and their countries because they are primitive and have no real reason to exist since they are also expensive to hire or outsource compared to AI.
>>729145026you weren't going to drink water meant for datacenters. whatever "data center water" is even supposed to be in your point of view
>>729144989Yes, and your domestic tap water in your pipes is drinkable.Did you think "Drinking water" meant faggot "premium" water you pay for at the 1000% inflated price???
>>729145087
>>729145087this
>>729145087>trying this angle againwe already know it's turd worlders use AI the most
>>729144797No, you just wanted to lose really badly.
>>729145113I've seen water rationing before where you can't water your yard and have to use low flow toilets. I'd be pissed if I had a data center near me draining resources. They aren't building new filtration plants to compensate but they be required to.
If we didn't live in a gay world we would have primi-futurism with people growing hydroponically vegetables and shrimps in the pools of massive ai data centers.>>729145087>>729145130I unironically believe that sooner or later India will be separated from the rest of the internet. Companies are losing way too much money due to fake numbers from bots, and it will just get worse.If we ever get remigration it will be because of this shit.
>>729145087Indians are actually cheaper than AI.That's their competitive edge.
>>729144847Why did he die or something?
>>729144750Would you be shocked if he doesn't save you? No? Just his dog?
>>729145117kys
>>729145163It makes sense that primitive uncultured savages promote their own downfall. Classic hubris where their arrogance make them believe that they are better than everyone else because a tool assists them. Just like in Greek tragedies, next comes atis, the state of mental blindness or delusion, where the offender continued on their reckless path without seeing the danger ahead. Soon comes nemesis and eventually tisis... Can't wait to see it
>>729145231>>729145328lel
>>729145087it won't. AI will only replace white collar jobs and we're still decades away from robots that are more cost-effective than Indians.why hire an overqualified former tech guy to stack your shelves when a fresh off the plane Indian is widely available?
The water paranoia is not even real ffsWe could be removing the salt from sea water if the left didn't kneecap the nuclear industry
>>729145351U mad
>>729145087>>729145343>>729145328>Jewish tr@nnis alwsy deflect to shitskins when it's their fellow kikes funding AIsame posts, year after year
>>729144893>wtf why are you using water for bodily necessities and don’t want the same water to be used for muh data centers?
>>729145410The salt will ruin the environment. you can't lie your way out this.
>>729145470Did you actually think you were making a point here? That you were being clever? Lmao what the fuck nigger?
>>729145470It's fine, it's not my water, but your's.
>>729145410>Dude let's just produce millions of tonnes of brine that we'll either have to store on land with a fuckton of space or dump it into the ocean and kill the ecology entirely
>>729145410Desalination plants use a lot of energy and cost too much. Water shortages wouldn't be a problem if they were efficient.
>>729144985So are the AI companies building extra filtration plants for all the water they make unsuitable for human consumption?
>>729145351>>729145470>my activated almonds and pistachios are valid use of water, AI isn't>for all the water they make unsuitable for human consumption?that's not how it works
>>729141656kill yourself furnigger
>>729145028The only way to be pro tranny is if you actively make everyone's life around you a constant humiliation ritual. If youre not doing that you're doing it wrong. Always castigate. Never self-depreciate.
>>729145564No, they are paying for their water use like any other customer.Do you not know how utilities work???How can you even breathe, so goddam dumb.
>>729145479>>729145561Take the salt, make massive blocks out of it, turn it water resistant and use it to build structures.Or just dump it in the world like we do with plastic, everyone is fine with that.
>>729139528erm.. read the heckin roomi don giva shit crackka! ima steal yo daughter artwork. fuck you gonna do??
>>729145629Now post that again in English.
>>729145620Furry porn is the only valid use case for AI.
>>729145682Suck her cock you stupid nigger!
>>729145630Why would industry get priority to use those utilities when there’s people who have no access to potable water because the existing infrastructure can’t support them sufficiently?
>>729145564Anon, what industries do you think exist that don't use water in large amounts?>W-well we can't add more!Why not?
>>729145637So your choice is either turn it into shitty, hard to use building materials or cause further environmental damage? It's a good thing retards like you have no say in anything
>>729145637>>729145479>what are desalination plantsapparently we live in a world where the only technology that exists is a datacenter and people get their water by taking bucket to a river
>>729145751Where does this happen other that your imagination?
>>729145754Because GenAI has yet to prove that it can even make a profit.
>>729145630Just like they are paying for ram and gpus. Problem is resources are limited and that fucks over the people who don't have a trillion dollars.
>>729139528This is amusing as soon AI artists will be in charge.
>>729145803The US of A. Their infrastructure is absolute horseshit.
>>729145757>Anon thinks you can ruin the environment by adding the salt from desalinated water back to the oceanLol. Nigger you are so fucking dumb it's unbelievable.
>>729145804e33 didn't make profit?
>>729145849but my tap water works fine
>>729145757https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt-concreteWe already use salt for concrete.
>>729145804>Investing in new business infrastructure is bad because... uhm... uhhh... it needs to be profitable from day one!Right, why till a field when you don't even know if things will grow, right?
>>729145804kys capitalist bootlocker
>>729145849We don't care about 3rd world shitholes.
>>729145804it's an investment, it's not supposed to make a profit right now but it will make a profit. See how NVdiaGo has a limit now on it's cloud gaming. Some people will defend this and soon they'll defend Nvidia removing games from "cloud libraries" so players will have to pay to play games for limited time per day and as long as nvidia keeps the game up. Local gaming is being "sacrificed" for the sake of AI while not being a necessary sacrifice.
>>729145884They arent dumping 500 billion a year in training
>>729138545Okay and the numbers if you take out E33 (which lied about GenAI) and Black Ops?How much did they earn
>>729146002>okay if you take out the best-selling games that used AI, how much did games using AI make
>>729145926inflated AI tech companies isn't all AI>soon they'll defend Nvidia people already do that. and anyone who uses DLSS uses generative AI.>>729145965they used AI for a project that generated profit. openAI (fortunately) doesn't have monopoly on AI so it doesn't matter if they go bankrupt when it comes to AI being profitable or not.
>>729146002It's the new normal and will only see more and more use over time. You have very low intelligence not to understand this, it will be everywhere. It only grows stronger every day and nothing your smooth brain conjures up will ever stop it.
>>729145914We are far past day 1.
>>729146080The end goal is to charge everyone monthly subscriptions for AI access. It's free or cheap now to get users.
>>729146181>Missing the point to sperg about irrelevant detailsNice job, faggot.
>>729146181no kidding
>>729146221It's free and cheap because yet, it's conditioning people to use it, and training the AI to be useful. It is most certainly going to get monetised in some way in the future. That's why if you're smart about it you use AI as a learning tool where possible (for example coding) and don't grow to rely on it for other things unless it's going to be worth the cost (like art tools)
>>729146069COD was still in it's mid aughts "too big to fail" status until the ONLY AI COD BLOPS underperformed so hard they had to do the corporate version of genuflecting.Short of it literally bricking machines or being a unity asset flip almost any first person shooter released with the CoD Black Ops IP would have put up enough numbers to be the overwhelming majority of the $660m.So yes, I would like to see the data without the obvious statistical outliers taken out.>>729146085If it was so inevitable and growing stronger why do you feel the need to run damage control and propagandize it? Shouldn't it be able to sustain its own unerring march into the future?
>>729146221I run my models locally, kikes can go fuck themselves.
>>729146085So do you have any evidence that this invisible, perfect AI that’s being used everywhere that you can’t distinguish it from human made work even exists? The people I talk to in coding say the tech isn’t saving any time and they only use it because the higher ups demand it.
>>729146281Still reliant on their data.
>>729146221>>729146278you can run AI for free locally so if that's their endgoal, they not just already failed to have any possibility to achieve their supposed end goal, they also teach everyone how to use that tool at their own expense>>729146318you can train your own models as well
>>729146280It is, I'm pointing out how utterly retarded you are.You're the moron saying nobody will want of them fancy AH-TOE-MOE-BEELIES over a good and fine horse! Flying? WHO WANTS TO BE UP THERE WITH THE BIRDS? Make a movie on a computer? NEVER GONNA HAPPENlolYou're just profoundly stupid and the fact you can't see that amuses me.
>>729146226So you are in favor of the government subsidizing anything as long as they claim it’ll be the next big thing?
>>729146318>Still reliant on their data.you can distillate, and CA jews will seethe about that impotently as FOSS chinks rebuild the data from scratch, all the parameters kikes stole shamelessly from humanity at large
>>729146314>The people I talk to in codingYeah, those definitely actually exist and you aren't referring to random posters on Reddit whining about AI, for sure :^)The tech absolutely saves time, but it does take some finesse to actually use it properly and get that efficiency out of it. An unskilled programmer won't get much use out of AI because you need to know if what the AI gives you is actually what you asked for, which most luddites wouldn't know how to do, and so they just copy and paste trash code (which is also exceedingly common without AI, Github exists for that whole reason)
>>729146345Anon, just because you can run Linux doesn't mean that the garbage that is Windows isn't the thing that everyone else uses around the whole goddamn world, don't be so fucking stupid.
>>729146314Your ignorance is in the extreme. And the evidence is everywhere around you and only growing every day, you're just clueless
>>729146280>obvious statistical outliers taken outmost game profits are generated by less than 1% out of the thousands of games released each year, that's not an outlier, but a financial reality
>>729146429>rejects my appeal to authority by making his ownAt least my friends exist. :)
>>729146420>Oh, that didn't work? OK! I'll try a retarded strawman next!Anon. What are you doing?
>>729146429Ah yes, of course, all the "luddites" who write code for a living.You're a clown.
>>729146470Ok then show me some evidence. It’s everywhere so it should be extremely easy for you to do.
>>729146495That’s my point from the start. No idea who you’ve been arguing with.
>>729146314>perfect AI that’s being used everywhere that you can’t distinguish it from human made work even exists?if the game has AI generated code in it or the devs used chatgpt at any point during the process for any purpose, how do you distinguish this even for things like AI disclosure? and that's just talking about "1st party" AI use. not even using code/assets of someone else who used AI to create them>The people I talk to in coding say the tech isn’t saving any time and they only use it because the higher ups demand it.nice anecdote but frankly, if the people can't use tech to save time, that's skill issue on their part if anything. if my mother can't write an email, it doesn't mean emails aren't saving peoples' time
>>729146420>in favoranon's opinions have no bearing on the matter Obama bailed out the bankers in 2008 financial crisis as millions of people lost their homes, AI kikes will get the same sweetheart deal no matter which party is in government
>>729146490Anon, I'm not appealing to authority, I am telling you how it works from personal experience. The fact that you can't even tell the difference proves you're exceedingly stupid.There are several core arguments in my post:>Blindly copy-pasting AI code is bad, but this isn't a new problem, people used to do similar things with copying code from Git>A tool being used by an amateur is going to perform much more poorly than a tool being used by a proYou can ignore those arguments all you like, but you only establish you don't have a retort or anything meaningful to say.
>>729146421It's possible to embed Metadata into results. One day your company might get a cease and desist for using unlicensed training. Some new AI voice company for anime dubs claims they'll be able to tell if someone used their voices.
>>729146528>Anon is illiterateA tragedy. You American or something?
>>729146574Still no evidence presented.>it‘s in the tools everyone has to use so technically it’ll be in every game nowThat’s a very organic way of proving the merits of AI.
>>729143232>mods get paidoh you
>>729146603they can sue Google and Meta first
>>729146657>I post an unsourced graph that has no way to confirm it's authenticity or process and any dumbass can throw together in a few minutes, this proves something!Yeah, it does, it proves you're retarded.
>>729146701Jannies don't get paid, some Mods get paid quite a lot, actually.
>>729146589Yeah and I’m telling you about the real experiences of a dozen of my friends who I trust more since I can confirm they work in IT unlike you.But then give me specific examples of how to use AI to help speed up coding. Be as specific as possible.
>>729146717LLM will never AGIcope Poo-shitter
>HAHAHAA I SUPPORT THIS SHITTY THING THAT MAKES GAMES BECOME SLOP U MAD U MAD BRO?This is basically 90% of pro-AI supports argue on /v/. Total retardation.
>>729146793Yes? Only a retard would think otherwise? What were you hoping to prove with this remarkably irrelevant statement though? LLM AI is a tool, it's not autonomous by any measure, and never will be. It will always need a human component to ensure proper function.>>729146792>'my friends'Sure thing buddy, those same friends who aren't here.>They work in IT!Oh? What sort of work do they do in IT? And why are you saying they "work in IT" instead of specifying? That's literally the retarded TV drama response of calling someone a "scientist" instead of what they actually are like "geologist". You're obviously full of shit, kid.
>>729146085>meanwhile all the companies pushing it are losing hundreds of billions of dollars a year and are absolutely panickingWhat a wonderful future this tech has, where everyone behind it is going bankrupt at lightspeed with no exit ramp in sight.More datacenters!
>>729146793Just another 6 gorillion bro, come on please we're so close just a few more datacenters trust me bro we almost got it just another 8 gorillion and we're there you don't want China to win.
ai is awesome and the only people it upsets are the people I want upset.
>>729146916Where are my examples of specific ways to use AI to speed up coding, faggot?
>>729146756A stick of RAM costs $1000 so you could make this worthless post
>>729138545I don't care if its like a one man indie dev that uses AI.
>>729146963See>>729146989I don’t want to keep retyping it
>>729146980The funny part is that you asked for that after already having been given such an example, you can literally go up the reply chain and see for yourself, but you know so little about coding that you probably wouldn't even be able to figure it out regardless.So what do you think you're asking for, when you demand specific coding examples while not knowing anything about coding?
>>729146989you don't need 126gig of ram16gigs is fine to run any gamesI have 64gig, but only because I am very smart
>>729141656Nah, whenever people bring up sales regarding games using AI, it's not about boosting sales, it's about the fact that any boycott didn't work. The devs got to save some time/money for apparently no visible downside.You've got literal millions of people online who swear they'll no-joke kill AI CEOs if they could as they boycott literally anything that even remotely thinks about touching AI, yet there's been games who used some AI in their pipelines and they got away unpunished.
>>729147041I'm good for ram, I have 6x 32gb DDR5 sticks here.. How about you?
AI is awesome for porn, I can make an infinite amount of my fetish.I don't give a shit if developers use AI as long as the game is good.Otherwise I don't really think about AI at all. I'll never understand these people that make it their whole existence to whine about AI. Reminds me of all the crybabies saying they hate computers and refuse to learn how to use those too, look how retarded those people look now lol
>>729147146Rookie mistake. AI is dogshit at security, and you just told everyone your project has functionally no security. Funny as hell though.
>>729145707nigger furfaggot blow your fucking brains out already
>>729147146we heckin owned the billion dollar AI companies with this one, artist-supporter sisters!
>>729147047This guy is in every thread insisting that he saves time with ChatGPT coding but what he doesn’t tell you is he’s trying to sell you a product that takes plain-language requests and turns them into “prompt engineer” requests to get better code, he’s trying to stick his finger in the pie so he needs you to continue to believe that the slopbots can do magic.I will never bow to the Infinite Cyberjeet. Replace every usage of “AI” in a sentence with “Ranjesh” and you’ll understand the caliber of shit you’re putting out.>An unskilled programmer won't get much use out of Ranjesh because you need to know if what Ranjesh gives you is actually what you asked for, which most luddites wouldn't know how to do, and so they just copy and paste trash code (which is also exceedingly common without Ranjesh, Github exists for that whole reason)You’re outsourcing to Mumbai except somehow even less competent, but don’t worry, we all totally believe it’s fine because you can check it all yourself to make sure it’s good and that’s way easier than just writing it.
>>729138545that's about 0.35% of gaming revenue for 2025
>>729146531lol, it's everywhere, you're so fucking retarded lmfao
>>729146963People who can't afford PCs anymore? It's not just tranny artists hating it. It's raising all prices of gaming. Devs need PCs too.
>>729138545I wonder if some AI bro will use this as main bullet point to convince people AI is useful and profitable. Explaining actual usage in as broadest strokes as possible "AI is used in Art and concept stages extensively"
>>729138545I am a simple person I see AI disclosure on steam and I don't buy, but I don't buy anything new now because I don't trust the disclosure anyway.
>>729145241I want segregated internet in general.
>>729147141Same statement could be made about lootcrates or day-1 DLC or any other kike business practice. “You won’t win” is not a reason for me to knuckle under and gobble up the garbage.
>>729147346>This guyAh, so you're so out of things to say you are now making people up in your head? I haven't been on /v/ in weeks, anon.I notice how you replied to my post, but failed to actually respond to anything I said. Great job, you're somehow less coherent than an actual LLM.
>>729146925You've lost, it's already over and you think being a dumbass online will somehow change anything. You're so profoundly stupid it's just funny to me.
>>729145231>They aren't building new filtration plants to compensatesame reason why they won't just make more RAM, everyone knows this shit will burst soon
>>729147481>"Just make more lol"Bruh...
>>729147449>you're somehow less coherent than an actual LLMWeird burn considering it’s supposedly “coherent” enough for you to build your codebase on its output
>>729147362You mean the people who cry about everything are crying about not affording a computer too? Oh no. If a dev can't afford a stick of ram then he's not a dev
People have been saying the AI bubble will burst for the past decade, surely 2026 is the year for real this time where it actually happens!!...right? ...guys??
>>729147146My manager kinda had this experience too, he works for the tax institution so everything needs to be super safe.They made this backend fully made by AI and he could hack the site by Log4j vulnerability and the database was vulnerable by SQL injection cause they didn't use prepared SQL statements.Seems like the AI available now just do "It just workz lol" whiteout thinking really about pitfalls and vulnerabilities.
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>>729147467The louder you insist “the science is settled!” the less seriously I take you
>>729147530bikecuck don't miss
>>729147513ever heard of supply and demand? no? k
>>729147541ChatGPT was released in 2022. Before that, AI was just a little joke toy. I know you (((people))) like to lie, but at least try to not be so obvious about it.
>>729147563BANNED
>>729147523It's almost like what I said isn't what you expected to hear, and you should probably listen to what people are saying instead of just imagining whatever the fuck you thought someone might be saying, you absurdist clown.
>>729147541We all keep being surprised at how much money Sam Altman can lose without the investors giving up on handing him more money. At this point it’s actually sort of fascinating. The bubble SHOULD be popping, everyone is losing money, everyone knows that everyone is losing money, eveeyone knows that nobody has a plan to make money. But somehow people keep investing.How long did Bernie Madoff pull this stunt off for?
>>729138545>blops 6>earning moneylmao
>>729147530Lol. Artists absolutely want to use generative AI in their work. Nobody likes doing colouring, and AI can simply take a sample and do the whole thing for you and require only minor touch ups. There's tons more use-cases for it, but retards only think of "artists" being replaced by people prompting an AI and being done.
>>729147654It's almost as if there's an end goal which the first one to reach wins all so everyone is willing to put everything on it to be first.
>>729147654Benrie wasn't a jewish cocksucker with unlimted sugar daddies~
>>729147597Yes, anon, and the thing about that is that an increase in demand doesn't magically mean an increase in supply. It means demand outstrips supply and prices go up.The real question is how the fuck do you apparently not know what supply and demand means?
>>729147536All studios big and small need components and they need good specced machines. Nvidia is scaling back GPU production by 40% too. The costs will be passed down to consumers.
>>729147746>an end goalYes, Sam Altman is going to make Skynet and then ask it how to make money using Skynet. I believe this very serious business strategy and definitely don’t think he’s an insane lunatic>>729147754Wasn’t Bernie Madoff actually jewish? I mean with a name like “Bernie” you just assume
>>729146886It's a mix of people baiting and actual astroturfing jeet that made it impossible to talk about this shit because every thread is just flooded with a constant stream of garbage to derail actual conversations about the actual damage caused by AI.
>>729147818as long as you go back to console I don't care
>>729147830It's not skynet. It's language/code deciphering
>>729147830he was low-class penny investor cum huster, not a cultured Ivy League homosexual
>>729147868No I mean that Sam Altman’s business strategy is that he wants to build AGI superintelligence and then ask the AGI superintelligence how to make money. He thinks his investment in ChatGPT is how he is going to accomplish this. I’m well aware of what a LLM is and how it’s not that and can never be that no matter how “powerful” it gets.
>>729147830>Sam Altman is going to make SkynetPalintir already exists.
>>729147575Your thoughts don't matter, you're a moron. I'm glad you don't take me seriously, it makes it all the funnier that the world you live in will be dominated by AI and in years to come you'll be saying the same thing as AI serves you a meal and parks your car. Either that or you'll go crazy and live out in the woods to die which is probably best for everyone. You amuse me, the sum of your life is nothing more than a joke to me lol
>>729138545>66
>>729147847Consoles will go up too. I already have a decent PC but it sucks for waitfags or people whose components need to be replaced. This is worse than bitcoin, and NFTs ever were. Any true PCfag should hate what AI is doing to their hobby.
>>729147993that's not Cream
>>729147971You're not getting it. AI is good for pattern recognition, code deciphering and translation. That's the push. It needs to decode signals and read language nobody can understand. Do you think ChatGPT is the end goal? fucking lol
>>729147971>he wants to build AGI superintelligence and then ask the AGI superintelligence how to make money.>Shut me down.
>>729148002>Any true PCfag should hate what AI is doing to their hobbyAny true PCfag already has AI as one of their hobbies, retard. I bought a 5090 specifically so I could gen more hentai
>>729147980>the world you live in will be dominated by AIit already is, what do you think all the algorithms controlling all the sites and traffic are
>>729148002worse than bitcoin? the thing which if you invested in 10 years ago would make you a king? ha
>>729148120That just makes you a gooner. You don't need a 5090 for that.
>>729148125>the world you live in will be dominated by AIAI as in Actually Infidels because juice aren't the chosen by god but the shameless blasphemers who need to be striked down.
>>729148197yer not wrong, schizo-bro
>>729148196 How come you get to decide what hardware people require?
>>729144569your first point is stupid, modern books fucking suck
>>729148125Yeah the places where machine learning tech is actually useful, they don’t give it a public facing API and let you use it for free, they secret it away and use it to make billions. You wanna make money with a neural network? Train it on stock ticker data and have it predict share prices. They don’t let you play with that AI bot.
>>729147980AI is going to be everywhere in the future. Probably not in the way you're hoping though.
>>729148145I'm talking to /biz/ aren't I?
>>729147448I'm not saying you have to gobble down the garbage, I'm saying people in general do, which sucks since that just means we'll continue to get shitloads of generic-ass no-effort UE asset flips loaded with DLC, gacha, lootboxes and other shit like that forever.I can continue to not buy anything new and never buy any games above like $10, but my personal feelings and impact are nothing. Same with you, same with what I hope is most of /v/.It's why vidya in general is so ass the last 10+ years, why make a good game when they can make a shit game with flashy marketing and $100+ of DLCs that some intern made in a couple hours?It's why I'm all-in on retro shit, chinkhelds, and indie games despite having an AAA-capable PC, I don't want to engage with modern garbage, I'm fine.Would be nice if the vidya industry crashed, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
>>729148290So explain what you mean then? You said BTC is bad yet it's increased in price every single year.
>>729148274>it's fine as long as I'm not affected directly lmaosorry, the genie is out
>>729148287yer not a JOGGER or a leftist simp are you?
>>729148287>using AI to predict crimeThose idiots are going to get innocent people killed when AI hallucinates. Melon Husks AI cars have already killed several people. Jesus Christ why are people so stupid.
>>729148234I'm on the videogame board. I use my GPU for games. You can do whatever you want. I don't like how AI is making this videogame hobby even more expensive than it already was.
>>729148287It will be able to recognise skin melanin color and direct police to those people before they can commit crime.
>>729148384it's cool they are usually blacks or white trash
>>729147778you didn't have to answer, I already guessed that you don't know what it measn.
>>729148315Not at all what I said, dumfuck. I said that generative AI is a pointless toy and the real uses for machine learning are direct applications of targeted data sets to dedicated algorithms, not vague approximations of knowledge a chatbot got by scraping text from reddit.
>>729146963Yes goy! Preaise AI! That way you will never own a PC or a home console ever again! Kill yourself. I mean it.
>>729148454Are you jewish?
>>729148403The seethe when MinorityReportGPT just picks random black people as likely criminals and they have to frantically lobotomize it will be fucking hilarious though.
>>729148421>alphs fold is pointless>ability to create any images or video is pointlessjust admit you are a brainlet
>>729148413>it will never happen to meeeKEK!
>>729148486Jews love AI since it is gay and will make the world a worse place.
>>729148310The context is that when mining bitcoin was popular GPUs started jumping in price. I was comparing the increase in prices for PC parts.
>>729148403>>729148494black get caught all the time, it's the judges that keep letting them go, like the one who killed the girl in the subway or the one who burned another white girls recently, all liberal chicks
>>729148384>going tolol
>>729148570the people who used GPUs to mine bitcoin made a hell of a lot of money
>>729148517Yup, not a nog or a criminal.It's just that easy.
>>729148587>trusting media kikes after BLMlmaoget fucked faggot
>>729148596So? That wasn't even good money if you got in late. I tried and barely got anything for a month of mining.
>>729148587>its already happeningWell fuck. I guess things are worse than i originally thought. At least they did not shoot them, right?
>>729145163Yep, the turd worders companies.
>>729148617>>729148587
>>729148503>alphs fold is pointlessAlphaFold isn’t generative AI. I mean I guess you could argue all AI is “generative” if it produces an output but AlphaFold is a dedicated algorithm that is trained on a specific data set (protein structures) in order to produce new outputs within that data set (new protein structures). It is a specialized and purpose-buil algorithm designed to optimize a specific task which is otherwise best handled via guess-and-check. It is not the same as asking “Grok, how do I fold this protein ?”>ability to create any images or video is pointlessYes. That was my point. Your generated slop is garbage nobody wants.
Disclaimer: I love AI. Fuck India, cows are delicious, I just sous vide a huge steak a couple days ago and it was pretty good despite being cheap as fuck and half-fat.>>729147541>decadeAI only started being a "threat", a blip on the radar for at most 5 years, and that's pushing it, it's more like 3 for art and 2 for everything else.I think way the fuck too many people forget it's only been a few years since we were pointing at funny blue blurs on "trail cam footage" on Dall-e Mini.Also that Coof19 started only 6 years ago.I was actually in the same airport on the same day as the guy they thought might've been Patient Zero. Pretty funny coincidence.>>729148384AI hallucinates all the time, I still don't get why people rush to cram it into shit other than the "be the first to try everything just in case it's a huge success and they can be crowned the winner and get all the money" thing.I've lost gallons of cum to chat AIs (I know they're not real, I'm not one of THOSE coomers) and I still have to kick the AI into shape every now and then.Hell, you want some dystopian shit: they sell chat AI powered toys for toddlers, and the models they use are still the same types of models used for regular chat AIs, just heavily filtered (badly). They have the same issues that the real chat bots do too, where the filter only works for a little while before the AI "adapts" past it and stuff starts slipping through.Apparently they had some AI toys start talking about masturbation and shit like that.
>>729148617>anon will end up raped by niggers for 20 years because an AI accidentally hallucinated him as a wanted criminal
>>729148696If they did, they'd be riots already.Oh, wait, the left lost The Jew's Grace when they went against them in Gaza.Looks like yer fucked, you dumb goy-cattle.
>>729148739>>729148587May I see the names and complexions of the said "Americans?"
>>729148676>I got in late, did it for a month and it didn't make me rich as fuck so it's bad you're a moron.
>>729148384It's being used in military applications too.
>>729148617>despite seeing it happen to people in his lifespan, he still does not recognize that criminal is a changing definition that may come to fit him some daypic related
>>729147541>for the past decadeWhy are you a lying nigger? AI was barely even a thing 10 years ago.
>>729148850why would it not?it's just another tool
/v/ideogames?Jannies? Mods?
>>729148892AI has been around since the 50'shttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_winter
>>729148907It’s only a “tool” in the same way outsourcing is a tool. Any place you see someone using “AI”, in your head replace with “outsourced to India”. That’s what you’re getting (but worse somehow)
>>729148287Nah, those are genuinely good. Don't you want a happy and healthy society? If you're not doing anything wrong then why worry about cameras?
>>729148907>hiring someone to steal your pc is the same as building my own computer
>>729148849You are overselling it's value. Yea no shit you could make money if you get in on something before it goes big. You could have made bank by putting your life savings on Nvidia a couple years ago. Too late now.
>>729138545>us gamersI don't think gamers were ever against AI. Gamers = regular dudes who are just trying to live their fucking lives and aren't involved in the ideology wars. We happily use AI because our goal is entertainment after a long day of real life. I made an AI image of me and Tay Tay, shit was cash. idc if AI is in a game as long as it's not retarded looking, and that isn't AI's fault but the retarded dev who did a shitty job with it. If it looks good it looks good, and entertains me, which again is the sole goal of a gamer.
I read somewhere that mostly troons hate AI.
>>729148923>reddit nigs always cry to mommy when they losekek
>>729149184not truebut they are practically tr00ns, so it's close
>>729148835Woops, guess you're a nonce now, the infallible AI overlord said so
>>729149184I heard Jews love AI
>>729148972because "wrong" is a relatively defined and enforced word and concept, you absolute moron. also, read the thread before you repeat shit that's already been said. goddamn I hate illiterates.
>>729138545you must have taken a wrong turn somewhere. this is 4chan, we love ai and hope all tranny, women and nigger devs lose their jobs to ai
>>729138545"Used AI" as in using it to generate placeholder shit, not code the game
>>729149341If you're too stupid to see the value in cameras everywhere then you're one of the people that needs to be on one. Good thing it's happening.
>>729148892video games have had AI since the 90s are you retarded?? everyone always talk about enemy AI in games going back to games like half life and FEAR
>>729149267it's fine, gotta work out the kinks somehow, and he'll have a payday like nig who got shot by a pig
>>729149475Just don't talk bad about the paki rape gangs. You don't want to wind up in jail.
>>729149305They fund it yes, but those are the .01%, the average Jewish person is stupid and poor as you.
>>729149487Those weren't AI, they just used that to sound cool.>>729148938No, not really.
>>729149581MIGA
>>729149590>it wasn't REAL AI>it's only REAL AI when I say sookay
>>729149580You AND the pakis will be dealt with in due time.
>>729149639???bot response
>>729149659>Advocating for a police state.
>>729149659It's true.AI will deal with both far left and right.
>>729149640They couldn't pass the Turing Test, retard. That only happened within the last few years. You don't know this topic.
>>729149475I'm just sad I won't get to see you on the wrong end of the enforcement because people with brains will be black bagged before useful idiots like you.
The other day some AIjeet was trying to convince everyone that he was an AI engineer studying at uni. He stubbornly kept saying that AI learns just like a brain, and when questioned kept insisting that we have total understanding of the human brain. When proven utterly wrong with a few links showing that no, we fucking dont, he mysteriously vanished.This is why you AIfaggots are hated. You openly and shamelessly fucking lie all the time. Why would I believe a single word you say when you insist on LARPing on shit constantly? Same thing happens when you all claim you are totally making a game with AI, when anyone asks to see your WIP, you make a million excuses to not show it until you run away. Because none of you are actually working on an AI-driven game, you are LARPing. Its fucking pathetic. And now you will be butthurt over this post, so you will either cry and call me an artfag/liberal/tranny/luddite, or you will try to be an internet kewl guy and pretend like you didnt read the post. You did read it, you just have no way to refute it.
>>729149789this happend
It's pretty clear AI won, no idea why people are still trying so hard to fight it unless they are one of the trannies losing their "job" because of it kek
>>729149765You've proven you don't have brains though. Only very stupid people are against AI. And the most intelligent like myself know where the dangers lie.
>>729149813AI is a bubble.
>>729138545Only Indies are not allowed to use it. Yes anti ai tards itt this is the outcome you where fighting for.
>>729149590>Those weren't AI, they just used that to sound cool.You just described 90% of the current AI craze. Companies are slapping "AI" and some vaguely futuristic sounding names on shit thats been around for decades to drive hype. I recently bought a TV. At the store they all are advertised as being "AI powered". They are refering to fucking upscaling, which has been around for well over a fucking decade
>>729149812>n-no it d-didnt happen...Will you kneel like a bitch if I give you the archive link? I want to know before I waste my time searching.
>>729149813Peasant intellect reaction. Those and artists (Same thing, really)
>>729149789tl;dr
>>729149874it is, and after it pops, the tech will still be there
>>729147530My wife (female (biological), 105 ibs) is an artist and once it became available she started actively using AI for detailing backgrounds and generating references. I'm with >>729141419 desu, it's a great tool for niche uses but the entire discourse is >"ANY AND ALL LLM IS HARAM"vs>"YOU MUST USE AI FOR WIPING YOUR ASSHOLE EVEN THOUGH IT LITERALLY CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE THAT IS TEH FUTURE"It will all end in a bubble crash and LLMs being that one specific tool used in one-guy departments that most supplement the existing workforces. >>729147729>Nobody likes doing colouringAkshuallyy epends on what technique it is. There are approaches which make coloring the most fun and creative part, but yeah in most cases it is tedious work.
>>729149960but I agreed with you
>>729150008>or you will try to be an internet kewl guy and pretend like you didnt read the post. You did read it, you just have no way to refute it.
>>729150130i didn't tho, but i read this post
>>729138545>Stellaris Great a game I bought 80 years ago now uses AI? Gg paradox
>>729149893
>>729149874>>729150014It's not a bubble, there's no connection to it economically whatsoever despite what some of you gullible people think.It will exist because it's too powerful for it not too. Governments will literally just create bank accounts with huge numbers to fund this out of nothing if they have to. It's just that important. (That's how the economy already works if you weren't aware.)Same reason Disney and Netflix stayed around despite being giant money holes of complete unprofitability for decades now. Because people like them, so they were allowed to exist despite this.
The bubble popping will have no effect on many industries that have been taken over by generative AI. Take freelance designers, Wordpress already was a big hit but generative AI will completely kill it. Nobody needs print anymore and the freelance industry basically relied on customers who don't really care about quality. Corporate will still hire design firms but some nail salon will be fine with an LLM logo for their mobile site.
>>729138545Lol if you want to include BO6 and BO7 because they used AI then 660mil earnings in this year will not cover the cost of developing both of them lmfao
>>729144504If enough were even made to service the commitments, those GPUs will be in a warehouse somewhere right now. There's nowhere near enough power or data centre infrastructure to even start to even run the things and it will take years and years to get them up online (by which time they will have depracated in value / no longer be powerful enough / suffered normal wear and tear damage over time and need replacement / be outmoded compared to NEW THING that Nvidia wants). Are YOU a bad enough dude to find and raid Sam Altman's hoard before theyr'e scrapped?
>>729138638>ragebaiti immediately disregard anyone who uses this term here, it's called bait you retard. People on tiktok and instagram took it and renamed it bait just like how they took goyslop and removed the goy part
>>729150130>this anon said something which I disagreed with and then didn't bother to reply to my demands >this is why i hate you all lol
uh oh troony clitty leakage
>>729150445this, just like "grfiter"
>>729141419>equilibriumwill never happen, humans have the "with me or against me" mentality etched into our dna
>>729149487You're actually retarded for saying that finite state machines are the same thing.
>>729149730
>>729150606>a chatbot lost a chess game to a atari what about if you trained the ai on chess?
>>729144395>the other one wants to discuss and have enrich conversations.right, quit being retarded when we both know that's false. You took the extreme left and put them against the normal right meanwhile the real world is full of normal people who don't actually wish death against people in the opposite political party. You make it seem like (you) are a saint and they're evil subhumans. Plus being on the internet with a degree of anonymity brings the worst out of people (see this shithole and twitter on the other side of the coin)
>>729150720>mfw can't tell which side this anon's talking about since they are both interchangeable at the point
>>729150685If it was a real AI you wouldn't need to train it specifically for Chess.The AI we are familiar with is basically highly advanced auto complete. It doesn't reason.
>>729142730genuinely, why do people watch and listen to streamers and specifically that rat faced bastard that lives like a hobo despite being a millionaire
>>729145810Reminds me of that twitter post about some AI faggot talking about a prompt, then another one coming out and saying how he "invented that prompt" and you're stealing from him.
>>729150465>demandsLmao I simply said you dont have an argument. Which you dont. There also is nothing to "disagree" with, this has happened many, many times, objectively. You faggots fucking lie about credentials and make shit up and then run when caught. Over and over and over. You have no way to say anything back about this because you know its true, and you know that if you deny it outright you will get your shit pushed in with multiple examples, so now you pretend like you totally dont care and didnt read even though youve been arguing about this shit for hours now. You did read it, you do care. You are simply saving face because you know Im right. But your fragile AIfaggot ego cant handle this so you just HAVE to get the last word.
>>729150720This shithole is preferable to X/Twitter.And that says more about X/Twitter than us.
>>729150882tl;dr
>>729150892i've never been on twitter but you can't say that with a straight face. We have rape, gore threads (and rape in gore threads). People who are openly pedophiles. People who call for others deaths. I can't think of anything that would make twitter worse. At most i find twitter users annoying
>>729142813>its the exact same game because I said soeveryone notices the slop
>>729150834some streamers are popular, beats me whythey all seem pretty much the same to meguess somebody has to come out on top, and he got to be one of them
>>729151019i imagine his fanbase must be mostly teens. If he has actual adults watching him and putting him on a pedestal then god help us all
>>729150992Sir, this isn't /b/ or /pol/.You okay?Maybe you need some time off chzd patrol.Seems to be affecting you adversely, more so than usual.
>>729151082because it's unfair to compare all of twitter vs a video games board.
>>729150992>I've never been on twitterConsider why you prefer being here despite it being a "worse" option than X/Twitter
>>729143329>like art>find out the artist traced over someone elses work>get angrywhats the issue exactly?
>>729138545>660 million amongst all AI games combined grim, a decade ago call of duty would have earned that by itself
I don't get why this is a problem.It's like bitching and moaning that textures were created in photoshop instead of hand painted. The whole thing just seems so fucking stupid to me.I get why "artists" are paranoid about their usefulness expiring but how have they managed to cajole so many people into joining them on their crusade?
>>729151130post elon Twitter is just /b/, they screech the same, tho to be fair if you just used it for Jp art it's fine
>>729151139i'm here because i've been here for 15 years and once you're in you can't get out. Never tried twitter at all so i can't judge it fairly beyond an outsider's view, like how people think 4chan is an elite hacker group that calls airstrikes
>>729143704i thought /v/ was a pedo board
>>729151276common mistake/tv/ is the proper paedo boardactual CP gets posted on /g/and /b/ is the loli board(/a/ allows loli now so that's also a decent)/v/ is extremely normie in that sense. always been
>>729138545>> About this - the AI voice generation tools we >use on Stellaris ensure that the voice actors >that signed up and built the models receive >royalties for every line we create. Ethical use >of AI technology is very important to us - we're >pretty good at exploring dystopian sci-fi and >don't want to end up there ourselves.>I'll have the team put together a dev diary on >how we use AI tools a couple of weeks from >now.https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/1cop93r/paradox_makes_use_of_ai_generated_concept_art_and/
AI is based since it will mostly destroy adult daycare type "jobs". Sucks for women always shitting on rural working men.
>>729144797Don't try it. What you're doing is trying to win an argument with a woman that has disrespected/cheated you by appealing to reason. You can't win.Women only understand one thing about conflict: domination. They use words and emotions. We use force and physical harm.You are arguing with words.
>>729150945You lost
>>729138545Because gaming for the majority isn't enjoyed by people who actually give a shit about gaming, the same way paintings aren't actually bought and enjoyed by people who give a shit about that. Gaming has gotten to the point that it's so normalised/mass appealed, that there will always be enough people out there who are happy to consume whatever XYZ studio brings out that month, regardless of how it is made or what it is.
Every major video game project only made possible with the help of AI, that people will have to admit is pure hyperkino, is multiple years down the road.The people who couldn't get their foot in the door, gladhand, hobnob or network their way in, but are willing to one-man-army the whole thing?Those people are busy right now.And they're doing it while enduring the most mouthbreathing luddite lectures the world has ever known.And for their trouble, they will be the wealthy ones.Bloody, but wealthy.And I'm not necessarily talking about money.
>>729151391>now/a/ has always allowed loli. There have just been a few uppity mods that try to change that every few years, and they usually get dealt with immediately
>>729152003>Redditspacing>Hyperkino>LudditeJust use a trip so I can filter you newfag.
>>729152060>RedditspacingJesus christ, no one tries this bullshit anymore.Crawl back under the rock and die, megaloboomer.
>>729152003>The people who couldn't get their foot in the door, gladhand, hobnob or network their way in, but are willing to one-man-army the whole thing?Those people are busy right now.And they're doing it while enduring the most mouthbreathing luddite lectures the world has ever known.Its been 3 years. AI supposedly speeds up gamedev by a gorillian times according to you faggots. The games you are talking about should be out NOW. Where are they, faggot?>t-two more weeks...And when none of this shit is out a year from now? 2? 3? What will be your excuse then?
>>729152003You fags said this last year. Its been three years. The games should be done.
>>729152114Tourist spotted
>>729152149>>729152208>Its been 3 years.It's been *shitty* for much of that time. The rest of this conversation will be remedial, so I'm skipping it.You're a pantshitting child.>It's not right here right now! NOT RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW>AAAAAAAA BLOO BLOO BLOO BLOOOOOOOOOO>>729152224No dumdum, that makes you the tourist. You've skipped vast amounts of time not realizing we've moved past this gay tactic against people who are capable of communicating.
>>729152224Did your screen shut off? "MUH PLEBBIT SPACING" is peak election tourist.
>>729152060>>729152224REDDIT INVENTED NOT EATING YOUR OWN SHIT.
>>729152297>i-i-it d-doesnt c-c-count... n-now its b-better...Lmao, what a cope
>>7291522973 years is the average dev time. You are saying that AIshit is slower than traditional dev.
>>729152297>SAAR AI MAKE DEV A GAZILLION TIMES FASTER SAAR>OH BUT UH ITS BEEN BAD FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS, NOW ITS BETTER TRUST MESo youve been lying about AI being good for 3 years now? You cant have this both ways.Wheres your game, Anon? Show me your WIP. You have something, right? You surely arent talking out of your ass, right???
>>729152409Exponentially better.Insanely better than how it was when it first started.In fact, if you tried to map out a plan based on earlier models, you'd have to revise said map based on the improvements.I expect a lot of people are just waiting for even more improvements before they dive in.That thing I just explained, that's why you want small amounts of inflation, and not deflation. Too much deflation can cool out an economy even WORSE.
>>729152572This is you. https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1766422255247694.mp4You're so bad at what you do, I assume you're a government plant.
>>729152297Why is this the MO of every AIfaggot? You say its amazing and better than everything ever, then the nanosecond it fucks up you walk it back and say its stupid, but *now* its better. Why should people trust in tech that is either clearly not ready for proper use or worse, just isnt very reliable at all?
>>729139831>Black Ops 6 is the best selling PS5 game as of right now**sales only countring games releases this month, only counting AAA releases, in dollar value, including preorders and counting them as day one sales, ftp transaction games excluded from the list
>>729152693Why are you boring and stupid?
>>729152628>Exponentially better.Point out a major advancement in coding in the last 6 months.
>>729152667>y-youre this guyDidnt ask. Stop avoiding the question, have you been lying the past 3 years about AI being good? And where is your game you LARPing faggot?
>>729152742I'm not a coder, but I am an image genner and NAI has made fantastic improvements during that time. CR is a miracle.Don't reply with goalpost movement pls.
>>729152795>>y-youre this guyYes! I did say that. I even stuttered because I suffered a terrible injury as a child.
>>729152728>cant adress any concernsWhy would I trust a technology that fucks up constantly, peddled by people that keep telling me how fucking stupid it is the second it fucks up? This time adress the point without chimping out and resorting to ad hominem, thanks
>>729145630I wonder if shitheads like you will still defend this shit after water and electricity bills go up and you experience constant blackouts/water shortages because the government keeps prioritizing industries over their own population
>>729152797>image gennerHow does magically speed up gamedev by a million times? Outside of a VN, this does literally nothing. Do you have an actual argument?
>>729152847>still avoids the questionConcession accepted.
>>729152927>How does magically speed up gamedev by a million times?https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1766494237701917.mp4
>>729152297>we've moved past this gay tacticOnly because the fucking redditfags have infested the place beyond recognition.
>>729152797>and NAI has made fantastic improvements during that time. Name them. What is so different from now compared to more than 6 month ago?
>>729152967Why didn't you make fun of me in that one? ):Booooooooooooooo
>>729152973Do you have a response? Go on, show me how retarded I am. Explain to me how slightly better image gen makes a whole ass game. Should be easy for you since youre so informed on the topic.
>>729153082You know nothing about anything to have even asked that particular question!
>>729153038You are already making enough of a fool of yourself, I think. I dont want to lean into your weird humiliation fetish.
>>729152927games are made up of multiple images called "textures"
>>729153136Then explain it. Go on, this is your chance to ebinly own me with your knowledge on the subject. You can even screencap it and repost it endlessly in AI threads to show how dumb us skeptics are. Why are you hesitating?
>>729138545I'm not. Infact I want AI to be even easier to use and produce even higher quality when prompted.I want pretentious "artisans" out of the industry 20 years ago. Go write books and make movies, you fucking no-talent hackfraud hippy faggots.
>>729153186Ew don't tell him one of the bulletpoints. Now he'll think that's the only application and move goalposts on you.It's totally beyond his ken to understand the other ways to use image gen. Unless you have 4 hours, don't even get started with guys like that. They won't listen anyway!
>>729152909>government sells trillions of gallons of water so farmers can grow alfalfa in a desert to sell to saudis>i sleep>government sells 1/100th of that amount of water to computer servers>AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH GOVERNMENT SAVE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>729153186Indeed. So how does this make an entire game?
>>729138545what vfull ai game
>>729153246>im ebinly withholding informationSo much for democratizing art
>>729153186DO YOU SEE WHAT I FUCKING MEAN NOW:My warning: >>729153246Him: >>729153309PEE ON THESE PEOPLE.JUST, PEE ON THEM.
>>729153309question i replied to>How does magically speed up gamedev by a million times?question now>So how does this make an entire game?you have moved the goalpost
>>729153408>>729153430Except that you could throw on a placeholder texture in about 5 seconds long before AI. Where is the timesave? Explain how this speeds up everything for gamedev. Surely you arent implying that these AI genned textures look anything close to something professional, right? Or implying that novelAI is somehow genning fu king vidya textures, lmao.Oh and by the way, gamedev encompasses the entirety of making a game, so no, there is no shifting goalpost. Youd know this if you ever actually made a game in your life.
>>729153430Gamedev refers to literally all aspects of game development
>>729153408Oh yea, anon should have known that all thr gamedev threads refer to just photobashing a placeholder stock image
>>729153408>>729153430Even your slop machine says its extremely easy and quick to throw on placeholder textures. Is the AI wrong bros???
>>729153793>placeholder stock imageYou really bought that excuse???Anything to believe yer precious froggy games didn't use AI
>>729153641>>729153756>microsoft excel speeds up business by making accounting faster>ermmmm dont you know business involves more than just accounting?? excel is useless!do you people not have brains? do you not understand how the entire process is sped up when you speed up one of its parts?and yes, companies are using ai for final textures, not just placeholders. thats why artists are being fired. ai simultaneously cant be worthless slop that no company is using but also taking artists jobs lol
>>729153958>ai-bros>look inside>just reddit
>>729153975>false equivalencePathetic. Excel calculates shit far faster than a human can. Placeholder textures can be thrown on very quickly long before AI. The timesave is miniscule. Its like soifacing over the AI boilerplating some shit. Yea retard, those 5 seconds it saves instead of just copy pasting from SO is really worth it!
We support AIOnly leftist trannies are anti-AI
>>729154107@Grok, is this true?
AI was supposed to automate tasks that humans aren't good at or just don't like because they are tedious. Humans (in general) like to create art and find the process enjoyable so why are we trying our best to take that away from them?
>>729154107Based, full support to AI.
>>729153973Lmao the butthurt is palpable. Ok retard, what sets the AI textures apart that multiple people noticed them specifically? Could it be that they LOOKED LIKE SHIT COMPARED TO EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE GAME??? But... but then that means... oh no... that means that AIgenning textures is NOT a viable alternative to making textures at professional levels because everyone can see its AI... fuck bros... our retarded argument...
>>729138545The mass market of gamers do not care if AI is used to not, just if the game is good. Ai as a tool will make bigger and better games.The only people pissing and moaning have a vested interest in AI, cause it will replace them. Cause they are shit.
>>729138545Good morning sir!
>>729153975>and yes, companies are using ai for final textures, not just placeholders. And they are immediately getting caught and shit on lol. Guess its not good enough yet.By the way, you never named these supposed image gen innovations that took place over the past 6 months.
Oh also, please provide a vidya texture from fucking NovelAI of all things, this should be good. Go on.
>>729140781Bungholioooooo
>>729154078why do you keep talking about placeholderswhen did i mention placeholdersrespond to my actual text and not imaginary arguments in your head pleaseai can, and is, used for final textures in games. ai can generate a texture faster than a human can. if it is faster than a human, it speeds up game development. these statements are factsif you think ai images are low quality, thats a personal opinion. personal opinions are not facts>>729154270you are confusing me with multiple people who have replied to you. all ive said is "games are made up of textures" and "ai can make textures"
>>729147729>nobody likes to do coloring, let AI do it>nobody likes to do lineart, let AI do it>nobody likes to do sketches, let AI do it>nobody likes to do composition, let AI do it
>>729151080>>729151019it started out by him one of the only mmo streamer with a modicum of personality when wow was having its moment he fooled people into thinking he was some kind of competent player when his encyclopedic knowledge of things was mostly just limited to where certain items dropped from having no-lifed the game for his entire existencehe excelled at the youtube style funko pop reactor (content thief) face and his russian (no surprise there) editors spammed his clips with these copypasted faces and vague titleswhen the johnny depp v amber heard trial happened he farmed it hard enough that normie rightoids started watching him and now he's what he is now, a fake gamer politics slopfag react leech where he'll go live, scroll twitter and reddit for /pol/slop, pretend to have a distanced center take while his chat goes "I HATE NIGGERS", for 5 hours, watch some youtuber talk about how "THIS GAME IS INSANE" (its some shitty asian ue5 hack and slash but theres a hot asian woman) and then he plays it for 30 minutes right place right time, sadly way more people than you think are fans of him and in their 30s and 40she's friends with multiple sexual assaulters, girlfriend beaters and generally unlikable peoplehe also blew up his mom by giving her cigs despite knowing she was on oxygen and his vietnam vet dad would chastise him on-screen for being a dirty lazy bitch that wouldnt even clean a path for him to use the bathroom at night when he stayed over
>>729154010I seriously dont understand how anyone uses that dogshit site. Years ago I made an account just to try and ask a question about a game and for some reason the question kept getting autodeleted even though there was no profanity and I wasnt breaking any of their gay rules. Then someone asked the same question like a day later and the thread was filled with them sucking each other off
>>729151080My 57 year old day watches him
>>729154535reddit, like other websites these days, is the target of bot activity and ban-evasion so a lot of subreddits apply minimum interaction scores to comments/post activity to prevent brand new spam accounts
>>729154432>ai can, and is, used for final textures in games. And they are caught and shit on for it. Because it looks like shit.>n-no it doesntThen nobody would be able to tell. There would be nothing to catch. The fact that this isnt the case shows it isnt the same.>b-but its faster...I can shit out a texture in like 30 seconds. It doesnt matter that it looks like dogshit, right? There is no timesave if the quality doesnt matter. Oh, but only AI gets to have the excuse of being shitty looking right?
>>729154210>Lmao the butthurt is palpable. Ok retard, what sets the AI textures apart that multiple people noticed them specifically? Could it be that they LOOKED LIKE SHIT COMPARED TO EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE GAME??? But... but then that means... oh no... that means that AIgenning textures is NOT a viable alternative to making textures at professional levels because everyone can see its AI... fuck bros... our retarded argument...This is clearly a post of a sane persona and not at all a deranged cope from a desperate anon trying to keep his pet precious and pure, yes.
>>729154589why tho?honest question
>>729154432The argument way that supposed improvements to novelAI image gen (that he refused to name btw) in the last 6 months will supposedly speed up gamedev. At onset its fucking nonsense because that guy is so retarded that he thinks that novelAI can somehow help with vidya textures.
>>729154107>we
>>729154915>oh fuck bros I cant refute what he said FUCK WHAT DO I DO???>oh maybe ill use a smug anime girl and imply that hes insane in a passive aggressive manner like some sort of faggot from xitter Address the core argument or shut your mouth retard. The fact that people even notice and shit on the AIgenned textures show that they are not yet ready to compete with traditional texturing with dev. If they were, they would be indistinguishable. You have no argument to this so you resort to smugposting and trying to smear the user, because you cant argue on your own merit.
>>729154968Because he's a right wing commentator that says things he likes to hear. That's literally his reason
>>729154838how we started>How does [ai image generators] magically speed up gamedev by a million times?how its going>ok fine companies are using ai>and ai is faster than humans>but its low quality!goalposts have been movedi accept your concession for what its worth my actual opinion is using ai lazily is the equivalent of outsourcing to india lazily. you can outsource properly and use ai properly, but most people only see the cheap garbage and assume the process must always produce garbage >>729154990ok that guy is retardedeveryone that gives a shit about ai is either using free local models or has an enterprise license with one of the big boys
Nobody cares if the brick textures are AI.You just need a human that care and go "nope, this brick texture is shit like Neil Druckmann, NEXT BRICK TEXTURE" until it's good.Now using it for shit like billboards etc is harder and need a lot more "NEXT GUYing" than the brick stuff, and manual photoshopping.We need people to understand that LLM/picture generation is literally "imprecise computing", because it use literal RNG and there are good and bad rolls.
>>729138545The ludites tried to destroy the new tech long ago, and the government used the army to beat them, and instigated a death penalty. The anti AI trannies don't need that, they kill themselves though.
>>729155132If AI deranged twats didn't spot it and freak out, do you think they would have spent the time redoing it?A small indie studio making a large 3d game?They used AI precisely because it stretched their resources and they backed off due to the psychos.At least they have an excuse for using AI, unlike CoD who were just cheap and riding the ghibli meme that got old within the first day OpenAi tried to push it.
>>729155328he's not right-wing, he is literally a 2010's liberal
>>729155395It's not because it's new that it is necessarily good.iphones destroyed several generations with it's touchscreen shit.The quality of programming plummeted due it.Also i can go for less dramatic examples like lead free solder that caused pic related.
>>729138545>tripple-slop such as Blops carry the brunt of AI games$660,000,000 is chump change compared to what is considered "breaking even" in today's industry.
>>729155459There is never an excuse to use AI.
AI helps retards pretend they’re people. Remember how over half the population can’t visualize stuff in their head and have no internal monologue? Those “NPCs” are now literally run by a program
>>729155506>Things just get worse and worse
>>729155357a big part of push for AI, just like Jeet outsourcing, is to make ugly, mediocre and broken games the norm
I support AI because it makes leftists seethe
>>729155817True, but most Silicon Valley tech workers are overwhelmingly liberal and leftist as well.
>>729155698Not really, and i'm not even "against all forms of AI".I think it completely mogged motion capture for example, and it has the potential of surpassing voice actors as you can have actually realistic sounding people and not needing to hire troy baker to voice 20 people.Shit like an RPG where everyone is voiced in 50 different languages is only possible with AI voice stuffs.But retarded shit like "AGI" and "AI generated video games" is fucking retarded.
>>729156019Relevance of the "nigger" test?
>>729156129It's a viable way to show you're a human poster and not an automated shillbot. Feel free to end your post with nigger as a form of "humanity badge"
>>729141656i want to hop in judy's butt
>>729138545Tim Sweeny was right.
>>729156207>I want to have a good video card
>>729152003AI pajeets are truly the most oppressed race...
So many AI lovers in this thread. The streetshitting is really palpable here.
>>729156198Got tricked and ate a few bans for that.GCJ loves to post nigger-nigger on 4chan tho, it's their secret fun, tho I suppose they are technically shitposters, not shills proper.
>>729156393No, not as much as GAMERS.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-09gNDsPzQ
>>729155334>goalposts have been movedThey havent. I am saying that novelAI getting slightly better at imagegen (still waiting on those list of improvements btw) does not magically speed up gamedev by a gorillian times. You said that its being used, I said its obvious and looks like shit when it does. And then you are trying to say it doesnt matter, to which I countered that if quality doesnt matter then I can make a shitty texture in seconds so therefore there is no time save. You have no answer to this and have proceeded to deflect to other things. This is what happened.Its is "faster" in the same way that its a few seconds faster to gen some shit out instead of copy pasting from SO. As in its neglible and it looks like dogshit. again, if it sped up gamedev so fucking much then people would be making games much, much faster. Instead the devs that try it are showing no notable speed increase and they get shit on for it because it looks fucking ugly and low effort. If Im wrong, then go produce a fucking high end game in a year since apparently novelAI can gen perfect vidya textures now according to you and this somehow makes everything significantly faster
>>729156432>>729156393>even 'jeets POOpost to bump their threads keke
>>729156440Well, if you're worried about uppity jannies, then denouncing the Talmud also works.
>>729156432Being pro-AI is pro-west
>>729156263give me my free Red Dead2 already timmy!
>>729156432You need to understand something about jeets.They most likely stay on /g/ because MONEY MAKING SAAR.They sold their soul to the grift devil and are just looking for any way possible to get money.They don't even have real plans for the money or any sort of real wish or desire.It don't matter if it's pretending to be an artist with AI or scamming old ladies or installing credit card skimmers, all it matters is MONEY.You frequently can spot em saying shit like "video games are useless" because playing video games don't equate to making money.
>>729156617Being pro-West doesn't mean I need to blindly follow every stupid gold rush the West jumps into.
>>729138545Woah.... eh heh heh... Guns are COOL
>>729155459>If AI deranged twats didn't spot it and freak out, do you think they would have spent the time redoing it?They literally "redid it" for everything else dipshit. 1-2 things slipped through to the final product, and when it was pointed out they immediately replaced it. And they did it without anyone throwing a hissy fit or forcing them to by the way, long before you retards even knew about it. So yes, if they noticed that something slipped through on their own, I believe they would have. Because they literally did all that with the rest of the placeholders.
>>729139528these people kinda scare me
>>729155334>ok that guy is retardedYes. My bad for conflating you two, carry on.
>>729155334Also it looks like some other fag is arguing in my stead for whatever reason. Ignore him
>>729144624Did you think this was a good argument suggesting drawing is better...??? That's not a good thing. Real artists in 2025 can generate thousands of images a day.
>>729156541If you're making a 2D game AI generated pics can speed up development a gorillion times.
>>729157050I did say originally that VNs and the like are an exception, but he was talking about vidya textures specifically
All the horses in this thread are probably still pissed that cars took their jobs.
>>729157169It applies to those too. You can generate the textures for 3D models. This video is old and it's improved since then. You can generate basic 3D models these days too, and eventually you'll be able to generate perfect 3D models of anything and past that they'll be rigged with animations ready to go too.
>>729157405The models generated by AI are shit, HOWEVER, you can use retopology to make em good, and it's faster than going from zero.
>>729157536Okay but the main point was that you can generate textures for 3D models(that you've made for example). It can save you tons of time.
>>729157050Which model and LORA?
>>729157785It's some ancient example an anon posted.
it's weird how politicized AI has become when one side of the spectrum is literally >AI in every single scenario is bad
>>729158605The anti-AI people are, ironically, some of the most programmed and robotic people I've ever seen. Something will be fine and they'll like it but then you mention AI was involved and, like clockwork, they will turn on it. Just look at the meltdowns that happened with e33
>>729158775All I see is redditors twisting and turning trying to defend their precious artsy baby.
>>729147217SomethingAwful lost a very long time ago.
>>729157729Ah, that also.
>>729140603I wish I was a shameless kid again, it's so easy to bait retards these days. That idiot must be having the time of his life.
