>HDD can start losing data after a 1-4 years with no power >SDD can start losing data after 1-2 years with no power>archival tapes can hold data for up to 30 years>M-discs can supposedly hold data for 1000+ years>crystals can hold data eternally if the crystal isnt damagedWhat am I supposed to save all my vidya on for longterm storage? Hard drives will wither and die eventually if you dont keep them powered. Apparently even HDDs will lose data if they are powered, and the data isnt rewritten every few years. Its all so depressing.
>>729140736You're expected to buy a new drive every five or more years and copy everything to it, rinse and repeat.
>>729140736So, power them on and use checksumming/parity tools? Hello?
>>729140736aren't you going to actually use your drives and play all those games you're hoarding?? or are you one of those people who just hoards for the sake of hoarding?
>>729140736are you planning on living more than a thousand years? moreover, are you planning on throwing bad rats on an m-disc, coming back in a thousand years, and playing it?
>>729140736I think about this often, how all the information we've amassed and all human creation will rot away and be lost forever, guaranteed, with how fragile it is.I have some expendable income and time, there must be some things I can leave, a few words, symbols, images, that'll last a few millennia. I've been considering stone, but are crystals really the way to go anon?
>>729140736>save all my vidya on for longterm storageThis is a complete fool's errand.
>>729141227Slow write and read times so far, but you can fit around 360TB on a tiny disc. It will last until the sun burns out, if you can keep the crystal protected and not damage it. Its also extremely durable.https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/5d-memory-crystal-claims-to-store-data-for-eternity-the-human-genome-has-already-been-stored-on-a
>>729140736Try playing those games
>Etch data out of carbon nanotubes and send it into Deep Space orbit >The Sun will only last a few billion years>Even if it survives the Andromeda collisionFucking bullshit. Solid state storage is worthless.
>>729141227>look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair!everything is impermanent bro, and frankly, even if you could store things for ages and ages, is some hyper advanced human really going to want to see your collection of brazillian fart porn?
>>729140736I've never heard of crystal storage. I want a kyber crystal hard drive
Everything is built to break
>>729141397If they're human they will
>>729140736nigga just use Google drive
>>729140736>>M-discs can supposedly hold data for 1000+ yearsThey stopped making these by the way. The "M-discs" they sell are hit or miss whether you get a real one or just a regular fucking disc now.
>>729140736you gotta store all your data on chaos emeralds.
>>729141565Good goy
>>729140736the preservation of vidya games is achieved by redundancy, not the particular storage medium. You could scrawl the game in desert sand dunes and it would be perfectly adequate with some error correcting codes sprinkled in.
>>729141350Neat. But I have to wonder if the reader will be something anyone will be able to reproduce in 50 years let alone 50,000
>>729141565>encrypt and upload 5 TB of data on my google drive for education>the next day they announce that they're not offering unlimited storage and I get an email saying that I need to reduce my usage to 100 MB or something fucking outrageousI'd be uploading encoded data to Youtube if there was an easier way to do that.
Got a 4TB HGST haven't plugged in 5 years. Am I in trouble?
>>729141532How many letters from the 1800s have you read lately? How many tittypics from the 1700s do you have saved? Nobody cares about you or your collection of random shit you didnt even make. Take some photos of some titties and bury them by a bridge along with a box of gameboy games with the batteries removed or some shit if you want to leave something anyone will care about
>>729141987maybe. If you want anything important on there its probably best to plug it in and check on it. Would be a shame to plug it in one day when you want something on there and you find out the datas corrupted.
>>729141162>are you planning on living more than a thousand years?Yes?
>>729142178>Nobody cares about you or your collection of random shit you didnt even make.The only reason we have so much information now is specifically BECAUSE of people hoarding and saving information they didnt even make. If anything ever "happens" there will hopefully be many other people with data/information to fill in what was lost.
>>729140736>be me >have 67TB of your mom's OF on HDD >have them unplugged from power for very important reasons >3 years, 364 days, 11 hours, 59 minuets and 59 seconds before they lose their data >plug them and spin up >power down >repeat again in another 3 years, 364 days, 11 hours, 59 minuets and 59 seconds
>>729141350How does the rewriting process work ? Does it just wear out the entire upper layer to write new info on the lower one ?
>>729140736I dunno man I just plugged in a Maxtor HDD I had lying around from 2002 and it booted up just fine.
wait for alienbros to arrive and share their space hdd technology with us
>>729140736HDDs last a fuckload longer than that unpowered, where the hell did you get 1-4 years from? If they lost data that fast, computers would have to write and rewrite data every year or so just to keep it fresh.
How do you even plan to achieve modern games with their retarded file sizes? It would be extremely painful for your wallet
Entropy will always triumph
>>729142952What matters is that somebody will do it and become the hero for all of us.
>>729140736Save everything to a HDD and then just dismount it? There's no wear and tear if the thing isn't being used
>>729142952>How do you even plan to achieve modern gamesGood thing modern games mostly aren't worth archiving.
>>729140736Burn all your video games onto a blu-ray
>>729140736Pen & paper.>but...Pen & paper.
>dude, old good new bad>did I tell you how much I hate modern video games>am I fitting in yetRetard.
>>729143056>There's no wear and tear if the thing isn't being usedHHDs are not immune to deterioration. It takes a long time, but they dont last forever. Even just unplugged and sitting in a closet, they are slowly breaking down. It might last 20 years or more, but its slowly being affected by literal cosmic rays, and the materials themselves breaking down.
>>729140736I have 50 tb's of VR JAV on 14 different external HDDs. You're telling me it's gonna go bad? Nononononononnoooo
preserving data is a fool's errand. enjoy the transience of vidya
>>729140983I hoard faster then I play it
>>729142952>achieveArchive?Honestly, you probably don't, I don't know if it'd be worth it considering how much DRM and DLC you'd have to wade through to do it properly since no game releases "complete" these days, even though games keep releasing taking up 200+ GB of data.
I've been using computers since the mid 90's and I've never had an HDD (or SDD later on) die on me.
I have 44 tb worth of games, animes, movies and mangasI want to backup everything but I'm a neet without money, I need to get a job so I can buy more space
>>729142952You can trim them down or compress them really well, like how repacks do it.
>>729140736I just uninstall the games when I'm done with them.But I hoard all the movies (and shows, if it's good).
>>729141565I prefer Proton Drive.
I heard about DNA data storage years ago, supposedly able to store petabytes of data for thousands of years. So where are they??? @elon @grok
>>729141227aint nobody gives a fuck about what you leave behind bro your a nobody
>>729142952You're a rich guy
>>729145385$ you
