PS2 has games
They had FromSoft, the other consoles didn't.
PS2 was simply superior to the competition.
They won Japan and the World followed
>>729145727Bloodborne is my favorite PS2 game
I'm suprised none of *those* people have claimed it was the dvd player yet
Every year was like this
>>729145897Elden Ring is pretty good too
>>729146216Rated B for based
>>729146036Every single game is worth playing. Imagine a lineup like this dropping on PS5. It would demolish the competition.
>>729146036>Worst game there is GTA 3Damn.... we had it good...
It’s crazy that a company can be run so poorly that selling 9 million is not enough for a profit
>>729146541High standards. Square Enix consider a game a flop unless it sells 10m copies.
>>729145727Gamecube had Lost Kingdoms 1 and 2. Xbox had Otogi 1 and 2.
>>729145681It didn't. Sony won in terms of "revenue" but in terms of profit, despite selling less units Nintendo dominated Sony in the PS2 era profit-wise. And profits are the only thing that matters for the bottom line.
>>729147696>Xbox had 3 games>PS2 had 15Oh wow, you got me there.
>>729147713>Nintendo rip off their customers We know
>>729145681Simply because they were established with the PS1 (which sold twice as much as Saturn and N64 combined). Sega fucked up with Saturn by making it too expensive and it's hardware had the PS3 problem. On paper Saturn was superior to PS1 but it was hard to develop for which is why most games were worse on Saturn.N64 used cartridges even though by this point going with CD's was the obvious choice. So devs and consumers chose the PS1. Had N64 used CD's Nintendo probably would have won that generation. But they were afraid of piracy so they would rather sell 4 times less consoles than have people pirate their games.
>>729145968It was the DVD player.It also had a goat collection of games but the ridiculous sales number was thanks to the DVD player.
>>729148608Why would Nintendo choose CD for Gamecube?
>>729148693PS2 has the highest software attachment rate of any console btw
You can play Ape Escape on it
>>729148704I'm saying that reason why PS2 won was because PS1 already won. Playstation was established by the time of PS2 while during PS1 days they were unestablished. Like I said PS1 sold twice as much as Saturn and N64 combined.Nintendo gave that generation to Sony by going with cartridges instead of CD. N64 probably would have sold 70 million units if they went with CD's and PS1 probably would have sold less than N64. But Nintendo were idiots. Nintendo also continued to be retarded in 6th gen by going with mini dvd's rather than full sized ones. Those mini dvd's contained 5.8 times less data than a full sized DVD which is why games like GTA San Andreas couldn't even fit onto a single disc. So devs would either cut content, go for multiple discs or just not make games for the Gamecube at all (and most chose this). Which is why even Xbox outsold the gamecube even though Microsoft was a nobody in the console space at the time.
>>729145681What PS1 had done and dvd player mostly are what propelled PS2
The ps2 was easy to code for and doubled as a dvd player. Being easy to code for is why it has such a massive game library and also why it has a massive amount of shovelware which is also why the software attachment was high. A perfect storm of easy to develop for and right when DVD boom was ramping up. Too bad they couldn't keep that cheap price or easy to development that floped with ps3 (RIDGE RACER!)
>>729149496Ridge racer is a good game
Nintendo and Sega both fucked up in the previous generation. Sega especially. Customer trust was gone after the Saturn and the Dreamcast was too little too late.The PS1 was a juggernaut, and the fact that the PS2 was backwards compatible with it guaranteed tons of games even if the PS2 didn't have any must have titles at launch. DVD playback helped, but the PS2 was unstoppable.
>>729145681what's with the stupid has fuck nonense threads lately?
Cheap dvd player
>>729150179OP is just fact
>>729146036post every year's lineup following 2001.
>>729145681The legacy of the PS1 guaranteed that the PS2 would eventually provide despite a rough launch. And so it did. Dreamcast followed the legacy of the Saturn, the CD, and the 32X.
>>729149496>The ps2 was easy to code
>>729145681Just like the PS1FF cemented their place at the top>>729150386Yeah, I don’t understand thatPS2 was notoriously difficult to code for
>>729145681>DVD player>Easy as fuck to pirate on>Good, varied library of gamesSee you next thread when you ask that question again
>>729150440Since he also added the "i-i-it was only a success because of the dvd!" classic, it's just the normal attempt to push the idea that other consoles were better and ps2 won the generation because things not related to games.
>>729145968My mam bought the PS1 because it could play CDs too, not even joking. I was asking for a Saturn that year too, thank fuck she ignored me
>>729145681dvd playerregular DVDs not mini disc bullshit so devs can actually put games on itbackwards compatibility (this is a big one considering how well the PS1 did)gta3online capability
>>729150718Based mom
>>729150920Why do tendies keep trying the dvd player line
>>729150386He's an NPC parroting shit
>>729151009Best decision she ever made. It was PS all the way after that, we did have a Gamecube though.
>>729151576>saying it sold better because it had more features makes you a tendieMan you console warriors need to take a break
>>729145681most game players moved away from consoles at early 3d and either graduated on to pc or handhelds, or left the ecosystem entirelythere was a vacuum for new players and the "also a dvd player" found an audience with the value-focused budget householdst. has been on 4chan since before ps3
>>729151610The problem with Nintendo is that only 1st party is viable. 3rd party all run like shit on them. Switch 2 for example looks like a ps3.
>>729145681Nintendo was acting stupid and greedy, trying to stronghold the industry with their proprietary gear.Sega was drowning because of very poor business decisions over the past decade, and making consoles is a very experensive process. That's why almost all consoles are sold at a loss.Sony took advantage of this by simply offering an other option for video game devs.
>>729151887Many such cases
>>729151773You people just don’t stop do you
>>729151998PS2 won. That's a fact.
>>729152042I don’t care, I actually own them all and still play then on a CRTJust beat Nanobreaker on PS2 and playing Skies of Arcadia on DCYou need to stop resting on laurels
>>729152364Well done!PS2 truly is the greatest. Love from Japan <3
>>729152878I also played Otogi on Xbox last month and lost kingdom on GCYou should try being an Idort
>>729145681>>729146036The PS2 was so good that the games on it were ported everywhere, and people don't even see them as PS2 games anymore.
>>729145681>SEGADC only lost because of SEGA's incompetence and SoA and SoJ sabotaging each other during late 4th-5th gen.SEGA's success in 4th gen was due to it having good 1st party games, and strong 3rd party title support in multiple genres, and the only platform for arcade game ports.Saturn was a mega flop and Sony stole SEGA's thunder because everything that made PS1 successful is because Sony did SEGA's strategy but better. SEGA also spent too much money on investing into many different technologies that didn't pay off wellDC wasn't bad and was ahead of its time but SEGA's mistakes cost them too much as by the time DC was picking up steam, they pulled out>NintendoGC lost because Nintendo repeated the same mistakes from 5th gen.>Poor 3rd party support as Nintendo was notoriously difficult to work with due to their demands and they took the biggest cut of profits.>Stuck with the kiddy family friendly image, which limits demographic appeal, while Sony's plan was something for everyone, appealing to a wide range of ages.>Technology chasing cost them as DVDs were better and PS2's Emotion Engine was better marketed>MicrosoftDid well coming in 2nd since they were new. 360 is when they surged.>SonyThey stuck with the 5th gen plan and reaped the rewards>Good price>Very friendly and supportive to 3rd parties. Many devs had stories of contacting Sony for more reprints and Sony delivered fast>EE allowed for cool VFX that only PS2 could do e.g. MGS2 Tanker on PS2 vs Xbox>Secured all the big names (Square, Konami, Namco, Insomniac, Naughty Dog, Capcom, EA etc)>Good 1st party titles (Ico, SotC, Ape Escape etc)>Difficult to code for but proprietary engines got popular, making it easier to dev for (RenderWare)>Good marketing for technology that convinced people PS2 was better than other consoles + PC.>PC at the time was mostly just FPS + strategy games so PS2 had genre variety>Backwards comp with PS1>Online support
>>729153103Its crazy that nobody wants to buy nintendo games so theyre stuck on a tablet :/
>>729150654PS2 really mogged
Sega lost trust after Saturn. N64 was seen as a kiddie console. People moved to PlayStation because it had a wider variety of games.
>>729153167>SEGA's incompetence and SoA and SoJ sabotaging each other during late 4th-5th gen.Wonder if that was actually Keidanren meddling.
>>729149048>But Nintendo were idiotsNot really. PS1-PS2 had mass piracy
>>729145681First video game console to have a DVD player.
>>729155053Why is Nintendo seen as the kiddie company?
>>729155649
>>729148753It only has an average attachment rate of 10 (rounding up) games, which is the same as the Gamecube.
>>729155649You went to stores and it was mostly cartoon animal games. Meanwhile PlayStation had Metal Gear Solid.
>>729145681The PS2 did that well because the PS1 already cemented the PlayStation as the video game machine. The PS1 had an insane amount of marketting behind it and while the PS2 had even more, the PS1's generation was more important because video games were becoming more like how we think of them now and the PS1/N64 era was when home consoles really entered as a must have toy for young boys. The PS1 sold like 100 million consoles which was double the SNES from the generation prior.Once you become that ubiquitous at an era where people don't fully understand what a video game or console still is, you start winning more by being the lead. Your mum or Dad would have gone to the store and asked about these new video game consoles that kids are all really into these days. "What's the one to get?" they ask. "The most popular is the PlayStation but there's also the Nintendo." Says the clerk. Sure, your parent probably heard of Nintendo before but if the PlayStation is the one that all the kids want, what one are they getting you? The one that people like most cause it means you're more likely to have the better one and have something in common with kids at school. The only thing swaying them past that is if the price difference is there.Being able to play a music CD on the PS1 and a DVD on the PS2 is a nice gimmick that helps sell a console but it's not the real reason they sold. My mum bought me a PS1 that gen and a GameCube that gen (because it was like $100 cheaper when she went to buy it) but she called it a PlayStation all the time. Didn't matter if we corrected her. She knew Nintendo too, she owned the first gameboy. That brick of a unit I forget the name of to play tetris but it was all PlayStation to her because that was all you saw all over the place. PlayStation = Video Games to her mind and millions of other parents who didn't understand what the fuck any of that shit meant.tl;dr the PS1 and marketting to adults who didn't know the difference was why
>>729156650>the PS1/N64 era was when home consoles really entered as a must have toy for young boysI felt like that was true for the previous generation. I didn't know anyone that didn't have a console.
