I play hard games. Yeah. Sit with that for a second.Does that make you mad?Does that make you clench your little fists and aggressively fill your gamer sippy cup?Good.Will the new generations even comprehend what a hard game is? Or is everything that doesn’t hold your hand, autosave every step, and give you a gold star for breathing now considered “toxic design”?>“uhhh Souls games and roguelikes exist”lmaobro thinks dodgerolling and dying 50 times to procedural slop makes him forged in fire> “I have a job and a hard life and just wanna chill”Cool story. Playing braindead normie slop where the game plays itself isn’t “chill,” it’s mind-numbing. That’s not relaxation, that’s digital sedation.Hard games are engaging. They demand respect. They don’t apologize for existing.If a game doesn’t kick your teeth in at least once, why even boot it up?Git filtered.
finally, a thread I can post Umamusume. I'm absolutely fucked this CM lads
>>729146736c r i n g e ?or is that game hard? looks like absolute dog shit
>>729148014harder than any of the garbage pissy baby games you posted faggot
turd strike bad
>im cool because i waste my time on interactive toys that also frustrate me 90% of the time how old are you 13? it's embarrassing to brag about this
>>729148215>interactive toysvideo games are literally interactive toys, that's the hobby lol>difficulty = frustrationDifficulty doesn't equal constant misery. Challenge creates tension, focus, and payoff. That’s why people climb mountains, learn instruments, or play sports. If frustration alone made something pointless, half of human hobbies would disappear overnight. Basically any guy should understand this, maybe if you're a woman or tranny it might confuse you.>are u 13?hard games aren't for kids, thats what easy games and rpgs are for
>>729146572>Streets of Sóy 2lol. lmao
Thanks, but I'll smoke some weed and play Animal Crossing instead.
>>729148456>video games are literally interactive toys, that's the hobby lolit's a waste of time>hard games aren't for kidsthey are made for older kids (teenagers) adults have important stuff like family and job
>>729146572>DMCnot really that hard. DMC like many char action games can be really exploitable in a way that can kill the difficulty. >SoR2baby's first beat em up over final fight is telling.>3sthe most braindead SF game with near zero execution. at least put CVS2 or 2X on there if you want some amount of credibility.
Skyrim MOGS all of these games
>>729146572>Press X of WarDo zoomers really?
Pathetic, shitty thread
>>729146572I'm a hard gamer. I don't play hard games though.
>>729146572Completely agreed.God of War on God difficulty is absolutely fucking brutal. But I beat it.
>>729146572post your 3s rank mr hard gameryou pussy,watch as mr hardcore pee his pants and cry mommyyy,what happened suddenly want to go poopy poo
>>729149042Samo goes for GOW2 on Titan.
>>729149075>i love 3s but will never ever ever ever ever play it properly because then i will realize how dogshit the game really is.
>>729149234>huge 3s fan excited to not even play it but post about it on twitter for the 1000th time
>>729146572Holy buttonmasherHey kid try these haha
>>729149284the majority of the time i see someone dick ride 3s it goes like this>"i love 3s, it's the DEEPEST fighting game">i play them in 3s and do dumb shit>they lose>"b-b-but you only won cause of yun, BRO THE FUCK YOU MEAN, THIS IS YOUR GAME. IF YOUR GAME WAS GOOD YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO BEAT MY WACK ASS doing dive kick into dive kick and a day one genei jin combo. if someone likes CVS2 or 2x. they are gonna be good enough to beat a day one boxer or K groove team. though i have seen a big resurgance in zoomers getting into 3s as their first fighting game which may be the reason i see this so often. new players told by e-celebs about how "deep" 3s is so they take it as gospel
>>729149456and these fags always dick ride Q, they are preemptively playing in excuse so that they can go "i was playing a low tier anyway but i love this game" fag bitches,on fightcade i literally cannot get games,these bitch faggots would gladly get their ass handed by A rank in america in 300 ping but won't accept a game from their own country men, bunch of sissies, i have to make a new alt account to get them to play with me.
>>729148750>not really that hard. DMC like many char action games can be really exploitable in a way that can kill the difficulty.DMC3 SE has basically infinite replay value and depth due to the difficulty modes + S-rank requirements. There's a reason people still figure out new things and have been playing it for decades.>SoR2 not hardIt's decent on mania despite all the lives it gives you. I enjoy it more than Final Fight, it's S rank, whilst Final Fight is like B or A arguably.>3rd strike most braindead SF game with near zero execution.you mean you have zero execution >>729148758>Basedrimmindless walking sim>>729149075B rank, 1000+ hours
>>729149783>you mean you have zero execution you really think 3s has a higher execution requirement than CVS2 or 2x ? ok zoomie. >DMC3 SE has basically infinite replay value and depth due to the difficulty modes + S-rank requirements. There's a reason people still figure out new things and have been playing it for decades.yea i think DMC3 is a great video game. but it wouldn't be my go to for hard games as unless you are playing for purely rank (which given you are talking about difficulty i'm going under the assumption you mean difficulty to clear, as difficulty to get "top rank" could make every game a hard game in theory) it's really not that bad. and as long as you understand how DT works in DMD you can clear it fairly easily with DT explosion and killer bee spam>It's decent on mania despite all the lives it gives you. I enjoy it more than Final Fight, it's S rank, whilst Final Fight is like B or A arguably.on mania sure. but even then i'd say FF is the harder game to 1cc. >>729149667>and these fags always dick ride Q, they are preemptively playing in excuse so that they can go "i was playing a low tier anyway but i love this game"FUCKING TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. no better than smash players bro. they will say the game is balanced and deep and then create arbitrary rules as to why "umm you didn't actually win because you used yun" this isn't a thing in 2x or CVS2 or marvel. people expect the top tiers and if you play low tier, they are aware they are picking them for a reason, either match up related or otherwise. 3s players are nearly as bad as anime players for their mental gymnastics. "you see i really won because i only lost 10-2 as Q vs yun instead of 10-1"there are people out there genuinly good at 3s and like 3s. but it's the biggest poser game by a mile.
>>729146572you're not gonna be in a practiced state all the time. There is knowing the game mechanics and there is just knowing each beat.
>>729146572but anon all these games are easy
>>729146572>hard game>3SI pick Chun-Li, do b+HP/d+MK > 236236K for big damage, it's ggsReplace it with F-Zero GX
>>729150269while i agree with most of the things, but i wouldn't call 3s the most poser game, desu,specially when games like vampire savior exist,i have run the numbers, that game has the worst (people in lobby) over (people actually playing) ratio.lobby has like 50 plus people (which is like eid for unpopular games) and 0 ongoing match,compared that games with hardly any players,like samurai shodown 4, fatal fury special, real bout 2, last blade 2, to some extent even garou, those games hardly ever go above 10 players, but always have on going matches, but vampire savior like nope, 0 people actually playing just sitting in lobby,
>>729146572Does 3rd strike have story mode?I tried it on fightcade but its basically pvp with zero tutorial
>>729150710Ive played hundreds of hours on fightcade and meeting a chun is very very rare. I've fought more Necros and Seans than chuns desu>>729150641>duhh all those easy>mushihimesama ultra mode is easy>gradius 3 easykek, nowhat is harder?>>729150710I'll replace Devil Kings with FZero GX sure.
>>729150731please accept my concession anon. i forgot about vsav. i quite enjoy VSAV. it's a piece of shit but it's fun to do bubble loops. but yea that game has a big problem with people who love saying they play it while never really playing it. honestly i see the same shit with CVS2 (though that's a bit more forgivable because flycast is kinda bunk.
>>729150836watch youtube vids, people have made tons of guides, tons of resourcesjust beat the game on harder difficulties, and learn the basic moves then fight low rank Ds on fightcade and learn slowly. it's the best game everhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu796VrqlXY>>729150269>you really think 3s has a higher execution requirement than CVS2 or 2x ? ok zoomie.no and that doesn't matter because fighting games are more than "execution requirements"
>>729146572Replace gow with ninja gaiden
>>729150848i accept your concession, i too liked vsav a lot when i was young, i would challenge everyone despite the ping (jej now i see it was quite bothersome to everyone), but eventually came across a big boy called dyne, who made me realize playing that game with keyboard is a no go, specially how 1 hit push block are so important in some matchups, like against sasquatch and bishamon (i played against his bishamon) i was permanently locked, but those weren't true block strings to easily push block,eventually i rage quit that game, i forced my neighbor to play it with me, i still cringe over that time,3s is great to be honest, its perfect game specially, if you consider how surprisingly modern it is, despite how old is it, that game fooled me into thinking half circle motions are never a problem after a certain level, but for keyboard players you are on the mercy of the game input reader,of course that's not a problem in newer games, but big problem in old games, like in kof 98 hcf motions work fine, but if you do them the same way in real bout 2 they won't come out,and lot of shit like that,of course 3s has its own nuances related to playing with kb, but you can do all of the things on a lot of characters, and with fightcade (fix dropped inputs) even those have been ironed out.fuck, this captcha kept filtering me
>>729146572God Hand is a dodge sim.
Metal Slug is piss easy.
>>729151129>Replace gow with ninja gaidenGow on Titan mode is pretty tough and I find the combat more fun. But I haven't played NG2 or NGblack only the sigma versions and those are kinda meh>>729151302git gud
>>729151380post your metal slug 3 1cc
>>729151026>no and that doesn't matter because fighting games are more than "execution requirements"you are correct. but 3s just kinda sucks from every other perspective as well (at least if you are looking at it as a street fighter game). zoning is redundent. 3s is the only street fighter game that lets you jump in like a goober while still having access to defensive options. so even if you play perfect footsies, at the tap of the jump you can be put into a mix (all be it a favorable one for the defender) so much to the point that even people that are good at and like 3s like justin wong and a few mates i have that are really good at 3s all agree that it's not a real street fighter game. I get that there is a bunch of mind games with parry but so much of that comes at the cost of good SF neutral, it's super rare to see people who enjoy classic SF and 3s. personally i would rather play 6 than 3s. >>729151241lmao man got hit by the dyne force. last i heard he got banned for something stupid. i don't mind vsav. but then again i play one of the actual good characters and can PB one hit pretty consistently. but i would never go out of my way to play it. yea the input buffer for 3s is much more lax than 2x or alpha (A2 specifically i think has a dogshit input buffer.) but the problem with 3s is the parry. if you like parry and what it does to the core game of SF. nothing about the balance (despite being dogshit) or the degen shit will make you hate it. if you hate parry. the game will have nothing to make you enjoy it, it's like RC in CVS2 except i think the ramifications of parry stretch far further. >but doesn't CVS2 have P grooveit does but it's so dogshit in many ways that thankfully i never have to see it that often.
>>729146572The only hard single player video game ever made is Gradius III Arcade
I play battle brothers and I feel like blowing my brains off whenever something slightly negative happens
>>729146572Contra Hardcorps is easy as fuck compared to some of the other shit on there
I'm playing Maximo and it's kinda hard
>>729151586>3s is the only street fighter game that lets you jump in like a goober while still having access to defensive options. so even if you play perfect footsies, at the tap of the jump you can be put into a mix (all be it a favorable one for the defender)parry doesn’t magically make jumping safe. A bad jump still loses to spacing, timing, late anti-airs, and empty-jump pressure reads, clever dashing, etc. The jumper is still taking a risk.Footsies always include the possibility of being put into a mix after a jump in every SF, because jumps inherently bypass ground control. That’s not unique to 3S; it’s a core design tradeoff of the series. 3rd Strike isn’t the only SF where “goober jumps” meet defensive options. It just frames the risk reward differently...
>>729150840>what is harder?Almost any other cave shooter is harder than mushiGradius has harder titles tooHard corps and sor2 aren't that hard either
>>729146572How are these hard anon? I've played these in my school years, a child can beat them, zero brain activity required
Try Wipeout HD collection of you want a hard game.Half of the shit in the OP can be beaten with some modicum of memorization
>>729151848>Almost any other cave shooter is harder than mushiI'm talking about Mushi Ultra which is right up there with the hardest Cave. Calling it easy is retarded.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd8P4EAG4Gc>gradius has harder titles than gradius 3? 3 is pretty damn fucking hard, even the 2 ALL is harder than most cave 2alls>>729151921spamming continues doesn't count post your 1CCs now
>>729151798you aren't understanding. in every other SF game. if you jump and i didn't commit to a grounded action, you will get anti aired. the jump is immediately punished. that's the end of it, in 3s even if i bait the jump i also have to be correct on the parry mini game that comes after. if i am incorrect despite baiting the jump and doing an anti air, i could lose the game. pair that with other means of forcing jumps like fireballs being neutured in 3s and it's a very different game to classic street fighter, it's why many of the OG's that were winning in CVS2/Alpha/2x just didn't play 3s. outside of justin many of the players who did well in 3s were players who only played 3s. i think the "best" sf game is very subjective as to what you like in a SF game. there is no real objective best. for my money that goes to 2x. but i have seen good players vouch for basically every SF entry including 5 and 6.
>>7291465723rd strike is the hardest game there, because pvp will always scale indefinitely. The other games listed you'll master and find trivial very quickly by comparisonOP, I bet even if you put 10000 more hours into 3rd strike there'll still be hundreds of people that will make you look like a newborn baby. I can tell because you think the other games are hard
>>729152228>3s has air footsies cause of parrybased??that makes it more dynamic, not less. >but I just want to insta- anti air braindead
The older I get, the less I like difficult games.e.g. I liked Darkest Dungeon back in the day but I tried DD2 for half a day just now and I was like "nope, fuck this". The run-based structure where you can't accumulate advantages probably didn't help.
>>729152403that's fine. if you want a "more dynamic" air game with air defensive options and a "more dyanmic" combo game with bursts. that's fine. you have an entire genre built around get out of jail free cards for bad plays in neutral and getting hit.it's called guilty gear.
>>729151586balance has never been my concern in 3s, specially when my most hated matchups are not big penis tier, like necro, ibuki, urien, Q, i do enjoy parrying, but i do wish if there were some more fun chars, or some shit chars like remy were a little more impactful, while he's still pretty strong, its just kind of boring to play,also that constant jumping is one of the big reason i really enjoy it too, in lot of sf games, jumping is like a very specific situation thing, i remember in sf4 days people would brag about how they can go a whole round without jumping,this parry jump mini game kind of gives the game kof like neutral but not entirely full kof hyper hop into cd, ad infinitum,but you are correct, in cvs2 i read how rcs are so important i couldn't do them on first few hours i didn't even bother playing much, why bother if you can't even do supposedly the most important mechanic easily, i know that's not entirely the case (other grooves exist i.e) but still kind of put me off,
>>729146572never heard of mushihimesama before but looks interesting
>>729152725that's completely fair. as i said while i joke about scrubs who can't play 3s ragging on about how 3s is the best SF game. i know many strong players that like it in spite of it's somewhat anti SF design. in fact that's why they like it. the balance i think is only kept somewhat in line by parry. so it is a RC situation where it's kinda bleak but it's the only thing making the game even remotely playable for the weaker characters. akin to A2 as well. CVS2 RC's take a bit to get used to. desu i'm not a fan of them, i can do them and my team uses them a bunch but they are cheap. BUT again it's a needed evil to keep K groove in line, EO is an example of that as in EO the only real competitive groove is K because the only way to beat the K pressure is a defensive option or super.. and K groove builds super the fastest and has JD. with no RC to keep it's pressure in check the only real counter to K is K.
>streets of rage 2stunlock bosses with jabs until they die and/or spam grand upper
>>729152913is RC really that good, what really makes it that useful i just don't understand, i understand it gives invulnerable special but how does that make it that useful? specially if i am correct how rolls cannot be done as reversal right, also another thing that makes me confused is K groove, isn't A groove the strongest rc no rc, can't it guard break easily K groove P groove, A groove sakura, against any k groove char, wouldn't she easily break the guard and and shit,
>>729149042That's a great accomplishment. What do you friends and wife say about it?
>>729153182>is RC really that good, what really makes it that useful i just don't understandyes it's very useful. RC CAN be done as a reversal BUT rolls are a frame perfect reversal. like ST there is only a 1 frame window for reversals. this can be made longer by painoing like ST so it's not like A2 where it's only the one input but because roll is LK + LP. you only have one frame to hit it (granted because there is no super tight tic throw set ups like ST this isn't as much of an issue) https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/Capcom_vs_SNK_2/System#Reversalsi'll give you a few examples of how my team uses RC >RC flip kick as claw to make flip kick invincible as it can have trouble beating some jump ins otherwise>RC psycho crusher as it doesn't have I frames natively so it can be used as a wake up reversal or anti air as opposed to just jump mp>RC rolling crystal flash or electricity on okizeme giving me a meaty attack option that will beat reversals and leave me plus>frame trapping with RC scissor kicks after a blocked lk scissor kick Most of it is on defence but there is some offensive applications as well. having access to i frames on something that is usually safe or even plus is borderline bullshit.
>>729153182> another thing that makes me confused is K groove, isn't A groove the strongest rc no rc, can't it guard break easily K groove P groovethe K groove guard bar isn't that much weaker than the rest while P is substantially smaller. desu you won't notice it. in vanilla yea A is considered the best. K groove has relentless pressure because of runs and hops. a good example is cammy st hp is +10 and 3 frames so hp run hp is very obnoxious. with roll cancel i can just blow through it. but without it unless i play a character with a strong reversal (which frankly there isn't that many with a super strong reversal). i need to depend on a metered option to beat it. in which case the groove with the easiest to build meter in the game and a defensive option would be optimal. which in EO is K groove. since no other groove outside of P has a safe defensive option and K builds meter the fastest making it best on defence and offence. even grooves like N who's whole selling point was "weak K groove offence with RC" loses it's purpose.
>>729153842>>729153779thanks, they do make sense,so block pressure really is a big part of the game and roll cancels circumvent it, and kind of make a offense defense triangle.
>>729154180kinda. it's more the frame data is kinda fucked up considering runs and hops, so for many characters RC is their only way out. as cheap and BS as it is. don't get me wrong, full screen safe invincible psycho crusher is BS. my mate plays K Geese/iori/sagat and was not happy seeing full screen tiger shot just being phased through haha.
>>729146572Very fucking S-tier list
>>729148456Based
Every single person in this thread, except me, is a faggot.
