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What was his plan?
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He never had one in the first place.
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>>729160024
Communism
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To see how long he could keep getting away with being a bullshit artist
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To be more of a gaybait that Arthur was
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rob and slaughter hundreds of innocents until he would have enough money to live on a paradise island.
sadly he then betrayed that beautiful ideal when he killed one more innocent and became evil
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It's a story about the slow process of how a group deeply brainwashed by his bullshit starts to see through it. We also see that some people never actually do, and some don't even care. It was quite fascinating.
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>>729160024
Fascism
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>>729160351
They weren't innocent Arthur you fucking retard they were basically lackeys of the government and not free men like us
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>>729160351
Also seething that the days of the wild west and outlaws were getting snubbed out by the coming industrial revolution. That lawlessness was coming to an end fast.
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>>729160492
Dutch pls...
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>>729160552
Have some faith, Arthur
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>>729160024
Have faith
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>>729160024
sane at first, but the traumatic experience of discovering he had the smallest cock of the team triggered his latent schizophrenic paranoia and here we are
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>>729160024
White to D4
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>>729160552
TAHITI, ARTHUR
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>>729160024
>What was his plan?
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>all this time I thought Tahiti was some carribean island
>look up where it is
Yeah how the fuck did Dutch expect to get there if he even ever thought it was an actual plan?
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>>729166067
sail through the Panama Canal, wait no, that's ~5 year later, so sail around South America, the whalers went all around the Pacific, and it was colonized by the French, they had steam power by then too
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>>729160024
>What was his plan?
fucking Abigail, but not marrying her
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>>729165079
dutch, i must insist you stop making expedition 33 threads
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He didn't have one, he was a psychopath that just wanted to cause chaos
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>>729160024
To have a plan.
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>>729160024
He's American, hoard as much cash as possible and let others work for it.
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making a lot of noise and letting the peons in the group get the fall
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>>729169742
This is apparent. My problem with the game isn't his character; it's the rest of the group who take his shit, but especially ''wise boomer no-nonsense straight-cut cowboy'', Arthur.
Dutch isn't charismatic at all and he showcases failure upon failure upon failure. The plot wants him to be super compelling to the people around him, but the writing fails in every way.
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>>729160024
Communism island
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>>729170140
Dutch is literally his foster father
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>>729170140
Dutch groomed Arthur in his bullshit since he was 15
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Step one: One last job to get the money
Step two: Have a bit of faith
Step three: Take a boat to Tahiti
Step four: Eat peaches
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>>729169742
this
micah getting in his head or dutch hitting his head hard may have added on to it but dutch always wanted to cause chaos
it wouldnt be until years later that he finally knew it was all for nothing
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>>729160024
Cause as much chaos as possible and die shrouded in the myth of a legendary outlaw, taking the whole gang down with him. As civilization began to develop, it became clear to him that the day he would be caught would come sooner or later. Tahiti was just a carrot for the gang to keep them dreaming, and from leaving him when they learned of his true plan. Maybe before the events of RDR2, he was something of an idealist, but when his heists stopped working and he went from hunter to prey, constantly on the run, he realized.
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>>729160161
>>729160481
Pick one.
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>>729170140
Sounds like the president of the united states and people still suck his dick
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>>729171467
the sad thing is that of all people, Uncle believed the dreams that Dutch dreamt up the most
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>>729170856
he realized it was all for nothing during rdr2
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>>729160024
For the last time: Make a little money, make a lot of noise, and get the hell out of here.
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>>729170140
That's sort of the point though and it wasn't particularly subtle.
With the exception of Hosea, Strauss and Dutch himself, the gang is made up of violent idiots Dutch rescued young into his "family".
So these people are grateful to Dutch, they like him, and when he markets himself as this visionary legend they go with it.
The later people join the more likely they are to think Dutch is the second coming by virtue of everyone in their "family" thinking that.
It wasn't subtle that his "plan" was making it up as he went along and that he was sniffing his own farts like they make him immune to TB.
What was even less subtle is that Dutch took it very hard whenever one of his "children" had the audacity to imply that maybe the sun doesn't shine out of his ass.
Dutch wanted people to think he's the best thing since sliced bread and the only thing that kept his ego check (sort of) was Hosea, who was the only person Dutch respected as an equal.
That's why Arthur couldn't take Hosea's position as the voice of reason, when Hosea went "that's a bad idea" he listened to some extent, but when Arthur tried to pull that shit he was flabbergasted that one of his children forgot his place faaaar beneath Dutch.
And that's why Dutch liked Micah so much, the cunt kissed his ass with enthusiasm just as things were starting to unravel around him.

TL;DR:
>How come Dutch isn't coming off as super compelling when supposedly he is to everyone around him?
He's not supposed to, he's a dick with an ego and his bullshit only works on the people he groomed.
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>>729160024
Plan?
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>>729171467
This. He was the most alive when



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