How are we feeling about the DOOM series now /v/?
>>729160514Another IP fueled by nostalgiafags
>>729160514It doesn't even look like Doom anymore
>>729160514It insists upon itself. The capeshit influence after 2016 doesn't help either.
Modern Doom is a keystone example of "fake skill".
>>729160514Great start, stumbled in the middle, kind of shit at the end. It's like they went and totally ignored one of their own initial tenants by not focusing on story by further focusing on the story. Of a Doom game. Meanwhile 2016 has the most freeform combat of the bunch, and because of that as a perceived flaw Eternal now has very specific ways you can kill certain demons and doesn't like it when the player goes off the beaten path in that regard. Dark Ages just doesn't give a fuck about any kind of difficulty curve and just lets the player decide just about anything for difficulty while also having a parry but removed 90% of the sync kills while failing to understand why they were there. It's like watching a series of games fail to understand why the first succeeded and proceeding to remove those bits with each new game.
>>729160514I liked 2016 enough to beat the campaignEternal is annoying to play because of constant 2 second cutscenes during gameplay which completely break the pace so I quit like halfwayHaven't tried DA yet
>>729160514Picture unrelated?
>>729160864you have cca 10 hours of playtime across all three titles of picrelated, pseud zoomer fag.prove me wrong.
>>7291605142016: A corporate funded attempt to make a game after years of iD doing nothing. Arguably the best of the 3.Eternal: Shitty Simon Says that killed the series thus the reason Dark Ages sold so poorly. Everyone remembered Eternal being shit and wasn't gonna give iD a chance again after 2016 was basically:>It's not as bad as it could've been but it's not that special.DA: Haven't played. Won't play until it goes on sale for $15. Maybe even $10. Though based on observations, I don't get why people say it looks good. It looks like a mobile game in many aspect especially the HUD.
>>729160514This trash literally ruined the Doom community and it also spreaded to other old FPS communities. Reddit core game at best.
>>729160514Fart, shart and shart: red stains
>>729161157125/30/15 respectively, retard. Try again. The games get less good as they go on.
>>729160514these games are clearly well made but for whatever reason whenever I play nu doom I just get bored and uninstall
>>729161275>Arguably the best of the 3.There is no argument. 2016 is objectively the worst from a gameplay standpoint.
>>729161354The actual Doom community glanced it off like nothing. They just never stopped focusing on Doom. It's the people trying to talk about Doom outside of the Doom community that can't do that anymore.
>>729161429I believe you zooms.
It is confusing how Doom 2016 felt like it needed to pile on all this lore when the first one seemed to be actively trying to reject the idea of needing loads of exposition to justify the action.There are demons, make there not be demons, have at it.
>>729161504>shoot enemies>they die>AAAHHHHHH NIGGERMAN SAVE ME WHERE ARE THE NEON EXPLOSIONS OF COLOR CODED DOPAMINE REWARDS FOR PLAYING SIMON SEZ!
>>729161504And yet it's the most accurate like the Doom of old. The only thing your webm shows is that it was really nothing more than Corporate Doom.
>>729160514>finish DOOM 2016>all I want is more>never get moreIt sucks
I like the third age more than the first two. Its really fun. I was not able to buy it because money was tight, but I tried it on gamepass for a few hours. Eternal was not very fun. The first game was good, but a little basic. The third age struck a very good middle ground and the parrying is near best in class.
>>729160514I like them all just fine, but I don't love any of them. TDA > Eternal > 2016 would be my ranking. I'm not that fond of arena battles. The various boomer shooters that have appeared since Doom 2016 fulfill what I want from FPS games much more than this trilogy ever does. There's an alternate world where the sequel to Doom 2016 is more of a big-budget retro shooter and I wish we were in that one.
>>729161504Exactly like how I used to play OG Doom.
>>7291605142016>TDA>EternalThey're good games and I thought especially 2016 was brilliant, but they always seem just short of missing the mark to true greatness. There's a masterpiece in there they just can't get at it.
>>729161504At least there's no retarded jumping around like a monkey, they need to make 2016 again and cut down on bloat game mechanics like glory kills, parrying and all the other retarded shit even more
>>729161504>worstbest*
>>729161354>literally ruined the Doom communityIt quite literally did figuratively nothing. Doom community just laughed at these pathetic excuses for a Doom game. They have been making and playing Doom 1/2 wads for 30 years, and they will easily make and play them for another century because no other FPS game made in these 30 years came close, ESPECIALLY not the nu-doom games.
>>729161504>the webm that raped and murdered Doom 2016 fanboys
>>7291605142016>Good revival of the franchise, and a much needed breath of fresh air during late stage CODification of the FPS marketEternal>GOAT FPS, no notesTDA>Points for not being derivative, but still a marked step down from EternalI'm hoping they make a new IP instead of more Doom.
>>729160514they managed to squeeze one good game out of it, considering how many years spent on the rebooted franchise it's a bit of a kek but better than nothing
>>729160864Bethesda/microshit marketers hate well thought out posts
>>729162059>Doom communityOh shut the fuck up zoomer scum. "Doom" community doesn't exist. It's just a bunch of pathetic zoomers pretending to like a classic game whithout ever actually playing it. It's just a bunch of full conversion mods making stupid horror slop zoomers are obsessed with. It's just an internet fad, nothing to with actual gaming. also kys.
>>729162278thought out? maybe. but he definitely didn't play the titles he's referencing. It's just some edgy parroting of opinion he found out through streamers and youtube essays. Totally worthless.
>>729161647To be fair, 2016 had all it's cringey lore be ignorable. Eternal kept forcing it to where you were hitting "Skip Cutscene" and DA decided it was going to appeal to all the edgy Mexicans who ate up LE DEWM SLAYA lore.
>>729162152If they're gonna make a 4th doom game in a row then I bet it's going to be reboot, seeing the lukewarm reception of DAHopefully they'll make something new next time or they tackle another IP for a change of pace
>>729161647I haven't played Dark Ages yet but it looks even worse in this regard. They were onto something great with 2016 when they slap a monitor in from of your face and try to lore dump on you but Doomguy just rips it the fuck out of the way so he can get back to killing demons. People are sick of having pointless cutscenes and story shoved down their throat in vidya. 99% of games are written by people who are too shit to write Netflix shows, and that's saying something. Doom could have satirised this while just letting the player play the game.
>>729161647>>729162685>Zoomers talking about writing qualitytop kek.
>>729161275>Eternal: Shitty Simon Says that killed the seriesWhat is Simon Says?
>>729162685Dark Ages feels like something where you don't have to pay attention to the story but if you don't you almost wish it just wasn't there at all.I've been trying to follow the story but it's not particularly interesting (just a demon lord waging war on Argent D'Nur and how the Maykrs and Argent D'Nur have been using the Slayer as a living weapon). There aren't an revelations or plot twists so it's pretty uninspired. Feel free to skip past it and just get to the killing.
>>729162796I'm probably older than you, faggot.>Oh, that means you're a Millennial, those shitheads who have ruined all fiction.
I don't hate Eternal but it was very sad to see Doom embrace all kinds of gimmicks to keep itself fresh and as such the father of shooters is reduced to this silly shit where you have 10 EPIC COOLDOWN ABILITIES and retarded low ammo cap because DOOMSLAYER RIPS AND TEARS, none of the brutality really translates either. The game clearly wants you to see doomguy glory kill/chainsaw/sword/blood punch/grenade the caco and go WHOOOOAAAA THATS SO SICK! but it's all so procedural that none of it really lands. They evidently wanted that feeling in Ultrakill/souls where a party hits and the dopamine starts flowing, and chased it as hard as aping it in the dark ages.
>>7291605142016 was funEternal was okayDark ages was dumbed down to the point of parody
>>729162827Simon says is a game where "Simon"(the leader) tells the others to do various tasks, you lose by not doing the prescribed task or doing a task in which "Simon didn't say">Simon says touch your nose>Simon says hop on one foot>stop>Simon didn't say stop, you loseIts also pic related where a sequence of colored lights light up with sound and its your job to remember this ever expanding sequence and press the buttons in order.Both decently apply to doom eternal
>>729162287Sorry faggot, I'm to busy playing all the awesome wads released this year like Tom's Halls and Crimson Horror and Belot and dozens more, once you're done sucking dicks you can check them yourself.
>>729163147Thank for the explanation.Seems pretty gay. I don't think I will play doom eternal.
>>729160514>lost Action game award to an indie game and only won the "made with retards in mind" award
>>729160514Doom 2016 was the last good Doom
>>729163239>playingyou mean watching someone else play them, right?
>>729161504>uncs sharted and farted over this
>>729161909>especially 2016 was brilliantwhy do people say this, it was quite generic and had unskippable cutscenes, with upgrades that pretty much made you unstoppable. Doom Eternal was much more fun to play because of the much more hectic arenas with a wider variety of attacks and player movement. Not to mention a better artstyle (the zombie soldiers are 100% better)
they turned it into parry slop
You fags are pathetic drones holy shit.You people loved 2016 and eternal filtered you casual ass...DA is the first mistake but soo does Doom 3.Now you sheep gonna spam that Nu-Doom always sucked...until the next doom shows up and you fucking losers will Say 2016 AND Eternal are classics.Seriosuly you guys dont get tired of this shit?´´hurr old good new bad!`` then,the new become old and you losers keep repeating the same crap
>>729163327I only know decino and that one other faggot because /vr/ can't shut up about them. And I never watched them, they probably don't even have Nugget's extra gibs enabled and I'm sure as hell they are using some shitty soundfont instead of the glorious Nuked, so why would I even watch that shit.
>>7291605142 > 1 > 3Fantastic soundtrack on 1 though.
>>729163494>DA is the first mistake but so does doom 3Why do ESLs even come here. You can't understand basic English concepts and yet you want to argue with English speakers in English? Get the fuck out of here. Surely there's some Indian equivalent to 4Chan you can go to
>>729162685Dark Ages significantly reduced a lot of the story focus that Eternal added. It's still there but it feels more like it's just there to have continuity.
>>729163494>You people loved 2016No we didn't. At best it was a lukewarm reception. But you're a stinky ESL brown so no surprise you are retarded as well.
>>729160514Bethesda can fuck off. I guess they just got lucky with the first two games. The DLC for Eternal is when the cracks first started showing.
>>729162397>Is it true? Yes, utterly and completely, but if I just claim he never played the games I can pretend he's wrong.
If you've ever watched Indian tiktok, eternal and dark ages success makes a lot more sense
>>729163995You're just butthurt because everyone is sick of your zoomer bullshit. We gave you a benefit of a doubt in past years, but the fact you're so obnoxiously delusional that it's hard to believe. Everyone knows for a fact that you kiddies don't play video games, except minecraft/roblox/csgo/fortnite, and just shitpost on the internet your whole lives. Literal indiand streetshitter of the internet.
>>729161671>>729161736>>729161848>>729161913If you wanted combat more primitive than Doom 2 then you might as well play Gaylo.
Doom Eternal is on par with Ultrakill for best single player FPS combat. The fact nobody can name a single game better than these 2 for combat speaks volumes.
>>729160514I liked 2016, liked Eternal less, and didn't even finish The Dark Ages. They went too far with the lore stuff in my opinion and the gameplay changes were mostly for the worse
>>729164510>and the gameplay changes were mostly for the worseIf you're shit at FPS, sure.
>>729163619I don't get why people like that shitawful soundtrack. It's basically noise.
>>729164275>But that fact you're so obnoxiously delusional that it's hard to believe.ESL
>>729164503>Ultrakillpathetic>can name a single game betterDark Ages.
>>729164503>piggybacking on UltrakillUltrakill has level design, ZOOMhomo
>>729160514Just gets worse and worse.
>>729164610takes one to know one.
>>729164351Except Halo is fun? You know what FUN is, right anon? If I wanted a challenge I'd just play Ultrakill, or something like Incision.
>>729164351>He didn't beat Halo 2 LASOEternal shitters are such annoying faggots, holy fuck.
>>729164801Sorry ranjeesh. I may be a euromutt american but I'm white
>>729164885Halo is a hyper primitive cover shooter with >no level design>autoaim>slow movement>regenerative health>boring weapons>slow as fuck reload animationYou experience 98% of what the series has to offer within 5 minutes of playing and it is exceptionally dull.>>729164970There is absolutely nothing difficult or interesting about Halo 2 LASO. The solution to every problem can be taught from a youtube video and you cheese your way through the game. There is no mastery of game mechanics, because Halo doesn't have any. Doom Eternal on Easy has more depth than the entirety of the Halo franchise.
>>729165129what are you putting on those muffins lad?
>>729163310hugo looked depressed accepting that award. TDA has been such a sad disappointment for everyone, I'm legit sad about it.
>>729160514I really liked Eternal because I could hit a point where I'd stop thinking while playing and just play reactivelyThen I got better at the game and that stopped happening and I got filtered by the DLC.
>>729165276Little egg, little butter, little cheese, sausage patty....ya know
>>729164626>muh platforming>muh low enemy count>muh weapon switching>muh grenades>muh dashing>muh weapon modsDark Ages is the result of listening to all the shitter complaints about Eternal
>>729165414>muh weakpoints
>>729160514KINOOOOOOOeternal and dark ages are some of my favorite games ever
>>729165229>no level designWrong. I'm not going to respond any further because this post is clearly bait. The Mexicans that slob this game's knob never really have learned to shitpost properly.
>>729160514I really liked all 3 of them, each has its strengths and weaknesses, but all are at least a 9/10.I hope it doesn't end in a trilogy and we get more.
>>729161504They had some retarded shit in it that broke the balance, still better than eternal.
>>729160514The thing that killed my interest in Dark Ages was finding out just how much story focus there was. I didn't mind that it was straying more into Quake territory with the setting, but fucking hell the main complaint for Eternal was how story focused it was and Dark Ages was a chance to walk that back.I'm sure I'll get it and enjoy it on sale eventually.
>>729165552>No keys / inventory>No reason to explore (because the only resource is ammo)>No powerups except for overshield which is always on display>No traps>No secrets>Copied and pasted hallwaysGaylo doesn't have level design anon, it is objectively worse than quake.>>I'm not going to respond any further because this post is clearly bait. I accept your concession.
>>729160514completely killed with 0 hope of any future by microsoftpeople will play doom 1 to 3 and 2016 and eternalnobody cares about dark ages ms ruins everything they touch lol
>>729163147>Its also pic related where a sequence of colored lights light up with sound and its your job to remember this ever expanding sequence and press the buttons in order.yes pressing buttons in a certain sequence based on what imagery is on screen is playing video games
>>729165667Just skip the cutscenes
>>729165808>I don't know what abstraction isMidwit alert
>>729162491>2016 had all it's cringey lore be ignorablenot really because the cutscenes were unskippable
>>729165552OG Doom is a game about solving maps with the finite resources available to you in a given map. The combat is primitive, but good level design with secrets, traps, keys, item placement, powerups, monster placements and interesting geometry has lead to endless maps the community has made.Nu Doom is a game about solving combat puzzles by giving the player a low max amount of resources, which are generated by playing aggressively, with the ammo needing to be spent optimally (by learning how to best deal with enemies), while using movement and utility to avoid losing health and armor.Halo is a cover shooter with neither good level design or combat.
>>729165840>Just skip the cutscenesfuck off, shit story telling is a symptom of broader problems, they took all the wrong lessons from eternal
>>729165860Eternal's gameplay is not that complex, nor is it too simple. It's not quite like smashing colors in a sequence but i can understand if you have trouble with that.
>new game is already 50% offholy SHIT what happened?
>>729165960>/v/ pulling that ecelb dick out of its own mouth for at least a single second, difficulty impossible
>>729165284>TDA has been such a sad disappointment for everyoneTurning a fast-paced shooter like Doom into parryslop was a fucking retarded idea from the get-go.Didn't help that the ending of the Doom Eternal DLC was ass. A prequel could have worked, but at least give context instead of making a completely different story that addresses basically nothing.
>>729166168>still §40top kek no
The Dark Ages wasn't as good as Eternal, but that doesn't mean its bad. Its just doing its own thing and it did it well.
>>729166168it's on gamepass, no one bought it
>>729165414>>muh platforming>>muh low enemy count>>muh weapon switching>>muh grenades>>muh dashingyou haven't played the game fuckface.
>>729166649Thanks for demonstrating you cannot read you giga retard. I'm clearly saying those are missing from TDA because of shitters complaining about Eternal.
>>729160514>doom 2016GOAT>Doom Eternalmeh>Doom the dark agesdidn't even playtrue story
>>729166768I never found 2016 to be all that great, but it did leave me optimistic for what the future had. Eternal dashed that optimism and showed me that Doom would rather chase trends than set them
>>729160514Eternal is the best single player FPS experience in existence, and I like it even more because it filters bads HARD. 2016 was an excellent start.Dark Ages sucks because it doubles down on Eternals only weakness, the cringe plebbit lore, while also making the game a babby console friendly slopfest.
>>729160514i liked doom 2016, so i bought eternal at half off and the enemy ai was broken so i refunded it, i got it for free last year and it was ok. i'll wait another 5 years for dark ages to be released for free and try it.
>>729167073what a shame
>>729167073Doom Eternal literally built everything in it off of Doom 2016>da slaya loreContinued from 16>fast paced movementContinued from 16>rush forwards combatContinued from 16>ammo chainsawContinued from 16>platformingContinued from 16IMO Eternal improved upon everything Doom 2016 did and that's why i prefer it, and that's why i think Doom Eternal was so wildy popular when it released. The Doom 2016 fans are so strange to me because everything they criticize Eternal for, 2016 is guilty of, EXCEPT... in Eternal you can skip cutscenes, which is so much better than watching that Olivia bitch press buttons and scream over and over again.
>>7291605143 terrible games, one right after the other.
>>7291677892016 crawled so Eternal could fly. Putting 2016 above Eternal is an admission you don't even understand the fundamentals of Eternal.
>yet another thread were gaylo and 2016 "fans" are being completely raped until they abandon the thread EverySingle Time
>>729167789>YOU CAN SKIP DA CUTSCENESyet you can't skip the 5 minute LORE elevators or having some bitch robot in your ear talking about the ayyleumsYou niggers praise the skippable cutscenes but being forced to stand on a platform that moves at a snails pace while Vega is all "THE ARGENT DNUR, THE DEMONS, THE FATHER" at you is somehow negligable
>>729160514Graphical upgrade was 1% while demanding 5x the gpu power, woha.
>>729169426>5 minute LORE elevatorsthese don't exist
>>7291605142016 is the only good reboot.
>>2016 is the best>oh yeah, why?>>I-IT JUST IS O-O-OKAY?????????????????????????
>>729167789Olivia tower cutscene is cooler than anything in Eternal imo
The only good thing Doom 2016 had was arcade mode and its absense in Eternal is a complete mystery. I wish single player games had World of Warcrafts Mythic+ system of infinite scaling difficulty with weekly modifiers to the campaign.
>>729160514nudoom was a disgrace
>>729160514New lore is cringe shit
Beat 2016 over a couple of days, played Eternal for maybe an hour and a half before getting bored, story seemed retarded and I believe it gets worse later on too, I feel any success Eternal had was from coming off of 2016 which is why Dark Ages did badly
>huhuh eternal doesn't even care if you take in the lore>meanwhile Vega all game: YAPYAPYAPYAPYAPYAPYAPYAP ENJOY THIS EMPTY FUCKING HALLWAY, AND UNSKIPPABLE SLOW ELEVATOR SECTION >DO THIS SLOW PLATFORMING SEGMENT SO I CAN TALK ABOUT THE ENERGY CRISIS AND MAYKR TECHNOLOGYEternal is self indulgent to a fault
I liked the 2016 multiplayer. Why didn't they keep it?
>>729160514>2016Simple yet satisfying gameplay, with a decent( at least imo) subtle story that a nice Horror dressing to it, great presentation overall honestly for a DOOM game. The maps however are only UAC facilities and hell, which hold it back.>EternalGoes all in when it comes to gameplay, nightmare difficulty is especially satisfying and feels like crack once you get it, maps are also pretty diverse so -for the most part- the monotony does not set in, at least it didn't for me in nightmare difficulty. Master levels are hardcore though, I would appreciate any tips.The story however sucked ass in Eternal, I don't know if they changed the writer or editors from 2016 but any form of subtly is thrown out of the window in Eternal, not to mention how different the tone and presentation is and I don't mean that in a good way. Hearing that the expansions are even more of that with worse gameplay killed my Internet in them honestly. >Dork agesHaven't played it yet, I'm glad it's still gimmicky, though I wish it had more depth.
>>729160514it's garbage, 2016 was the best one, I didn't even buy dark ages, the whole medieval thing is cringe as fuck, doom is a sci-fi game, not some medieval slop garbage
>>729160514Eternal is the best one. The other two are consoleshit.
>>7291701482016 does that, but doesn't even give you the decency of playing the game while it does.
>>729171946>BUT 2016!okay, 2016 is also bad....
>>729165960pat loved Eternal albeit
>>729169243you misunderstand my post lol i literally said i think Eternal is better
>>729160514Wads are cool.Nu-Doom is lame.Just waiting on the DLC for Dark Ages so we can close the book on this era.
>>729170014Eternal was astroturfed since it has a very rigid structure if you don't know how to play it, where you have to deal with enemies in a very specific way thanks to the limited resources.It caught the git gud crew and you can't criticise it a la Fromsoftware games or you'll be called bad.Thank god TDA was the final nail in the coffin for these cringy ass DOOM SLAYA YAAAS corporate zoomslops.
>>729160514Eternal or Dark Ages?I played 2016 and it was pretty ok. Which one should I pirate?
>>729169243I don't think Eternal fans trash on 2016 like 2016fags trash on Eternal
>>729173606I liked both, Eternal builds upon 2016 and TDA is their own thing.Eternal>Dash around the arena cycling your weapons>Weapon swap is key and the combat is built around it>Heavy resource managementThe Dark Ages>It's feels almost like a bullet hell with all the projectiles scattered across the arena, block or return projectiles with your shield>Weapons now have more general roles, each one has a single target or crowd control mode>Heavy dependant on the parry mechanic, dealing with heavy demons is now a 1v1 of shots fired between parties.
Another crappy reboot.
>>7291605142016 was funEternal was funDark Ages was funFun gameplay, great production values and presentation. Gonna leave the thread before someone finds some train of thought that makes me like them less.
>>729160514It's totally badass!
Why did they turn Doom into a painkiller clone?
[wheeze]
>D:TDA wins 'best game for baby retards' at TGAsThe look on Hugo's face was priceless.
Finished and replayed DOOM 2016 at least 3 times.Finished Eternal once.Gave up on DARK AGES after 4 hours.
>>729174665I'm glad they incorporated the difficulty sliders, with higher projectile speed and without that awful slowmo effect after each parry, the fight is actually great
>>729163147It's hilarious how Eternal eternally assraped you shitters
>>729175707this scifi garbage is terrible
>>729175957nta doom is scifi, since fist doom the soldiers are called space marines and there are plasma gun bfgs and cyborgs
>>729175707I can't believe someone can see that and say it looks bad, you don't even need to be a sweaty PC tryhard to enjoy it, I played Eternal for the first time in an xbox one
>>729161504Ah, yes, this is so much better.
>>729175707No one says the game is hard, just boring
Nu-Doom jumped the shark with Eternal DLCs. It's not even Doom anymore, just some edgy shooter with a retarded story nobody cares about but they keep shoving it in our faces anyway
>>729165885Yeah, all 3 of them. Whereas Eternal has more than a dozen cutscenes, where you spend more time skipping them then just watching all the cutscenes in 2016. And that is without factoring in the unskippable, "Oh, look, the door, the only other exit in the arena you just entered, unlocked. Please stare at this unlocked door for 5 seconds. Now repeat that for every single arena in the fucking game of which there are about 100 of them. Oh, and by the way, outside of linear platforming between arenas, the game only consists of arenas like it though Quake 3 death matches were the height of design."
>>729175707The question is if the person in this video was trolling or actually thought playing like an unoptimized retard was skillz.Literally:>SSG>Ballista >Heavy Canonin whatever order you choose and occasionally chainsaw and/or Flame Belch.
>>729176070>webm playing the game efficiently vs a shitpostRetard.
>>729176070
>>729175707Keep on slayin', king.
>>729176636Do you think the point of combo videos is to show optimal gameplay? Lmao retarded faggot noob.
have you guys ever watched Romero struggling to play Eternal? it's hilarioushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vysf3X1rao
2016 was alright. Very much a modern console shooter, using memes to pass off as a Doom game while not being designed like one at all. Serviceable story.Eternal built on 2016 and had way more of its own identity. Rather than pretending to be a follow-up to classic Doom it leaned into being an arena action shooter and mostly succeeded. On its own merits it's way more enjoyable than 2016. However the story was pretty bad.I haven't played The Dark Ages because it looked kinda ass.
>>729162152I want a Quake reboot. Not a multiplayer Quake.
nu doom was never going to be a pure quake like game, powerful automated tools/compromises for console are a core part of the design. the best path forward with those constraints is basically what we got in eternal, going full bore on the idea of juggling a resource management game within combat.
>>729177498modern game design is allergic to any level layout that's not the most basic baby shit, it's absolutely pathetic how low the expectations are for people to navigate layouts. that does not bode well for a quake reboot that would actually be authentic to what those games were.
>>729177380Boomers can be good ddesigners, but they can't play games for shit. It's just the way it is.
>>729177203So it was trolling about ADHD?
>>7291605142>1>>>>>>>>>3Just like dark souls
>>729160514capeshit for nostalgiafags and trend chasers
>>729178081>retarded zoomer cocksucker sees combo video>WHY DA FUCK ISN*T IT SHOWING THE SPEEDRUNNER META!?!?! LE SPEEDRUNNER DIDN't CREATE THIS GAMEPLAY!!!11!
>>729177498Why? Are you retarded? What good could possibly come from a big publisher rebooting a game like Quake?
>>729160514Marvelized game
>>729178391Sort of true, And I'm a doomfag.
>>729160864/thread.2016 wasn't perfect but it was solid. It felt like doom. Perfect jumping off point for more.Then eternal said "hey let's toss the freedom out the window so that it'll look super cool on with streams for " mlg gamerrrrs"It because a weird "skill based" shooter where you have to play it in specific ways and kill enemies in certain ways, or get punished for it.And yeah, it started taking its own story too seriously. The whole fun of doom 2016 is doomguy ignoring typical story beats.>Hayden over intercom ready to explain technobabble about how to deactivate the thing>doomguy takes a look at it and just smashes it to bits insteadAnd that's all you needed. Cutscenes in eternal and dark ages feel like they might as well be darksiders or some other game. Remove doomguy and there's nothing that says they are from or should be from a doom game
>>729178347But what exactly is wrong with the meta? Once you learn it, it is all you will ever use.
>>729161772>money was tight>but has money to literally flush down the toilet on a game subscription for games you will never actually ownDo zoomers really
>>7291786382016 is pretty shallow. There is one strategy that beats everything else in the game. It' not even a strategy that's difficult to do. Doomplayers loved Eternal because it fixed every complaints that advanced players had with the game.>you had to play in a specific way to kill enemiesOh wait, you are just retarded. I regret writing this post now.
>>729179006>Doomplayers loved Eternal By Doom players you mean 2016, right?>Oh wait, you are just retarded. I regret writing this post now.*tips fedora* I miss this meme because it perfectly called out fags like you.
>>729179127>by Doom players you meant 2016, rightNo, I meant the old fossils like who still play primitive games from 30 years ago that don't even have 3d movement.
>still seething shitters mad Eternal filtered themAlso TDA is ass. I played up till the boring giant robot section and had next ro no desire to play more after that.
>>729179629same. I want Doom to be reset a bit now that THA DOOM SLAYA is just Thor from Marvel at this point. I dont mind the modern Doom trilogy, it is it's own thing, but i'd like to see a trilogy in the style of Doom 3 come back
>>729160514i stopped caring about this series when the developers cannonically made him a jew.
>>729160514It's fundamentally not Doom. The original games involved movement, strategy with weapons, mob knowledge of computer AI and habits.The games now are just boring : meathook, meathook, shield, shield, powerful weapon, glory etc. etc.There is no danger in the new games. Plus some boring over the top story, like some Marvel movie. The fundamental story of a lone marine, normal guy, working through hell literally and figuratively is actually compelling.
>>729181621>jew*christian
irredeemable slopcore
don't want to shit up the thread, but the game is well optimized too. I only get 45-55 fps sometimes and its smooth the whole time. 45-55 feels like 90-110 for other games. Fortnite has way more glitches and shit. its not even close.
>>729183912>zoom zooms discover powerups in videogamesLOOOOOOOOOL
>>729161157Dilate tranny
>>729186442No an argument. He accepts your concession.
I always find myself wanting to replay ddom 2016, but when I do I try and play like I play eternal.It has better atmosphere, it's far more serious.But Eternal got me hooked, I was hoping the Dark Ages was gonna be like Eternal but with the difficulty and enemy numbers of the master levels.well what can you do.
2016 was alrightI dont understand what they're doing with dark ages its like they want another halo
>>729160514>2016Great, but a bit on the slow side>EternalOvercorrected, way too fucking schizo, still good>Dark AgesGot bored with parryslop after 2 hours, rubbish
>>729160514s_o_y
