soon you'll be able to generate a complete game from a simple prompt, ignore the luddites
>>729161697so true lol
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/7SjwLjWRHy2jzmAcgrAgGA/
nice thread retard
>>7291619120 sounds like pure agony.
>>729161912>would you rather sit between two bottom of the barrel humans>or next to an alienAlways the ayylmao.
>>7291619122 would unironically be a great time
>>729161697Ignore the anti-AI freaks, anon. It's two, maybe three people spamming it, artcels who are mad that their commissions for MLP vore/fart porn are drying up. They'll be gone soon because their new jobs at McDonald's will take up all their old posting time.
>>729162043joggers stole it
>>7291619122 is the only one where I wouldn't want to kill either myself or both people I'm sitting next to
>>729161697Slop post
>>729161697>/v/:>hates slop, hates browns, hates corporations, loves SOVL, loves PC gaming>AI:>is slop, is beloved by browns and corporations, is anti-SOVL, makes PC gaming unaffordableAll I'm saying is, something doesn't add up
>>7291619126. 2 would be more fun, but the challenge of getting Taylor Swift to say nigger with Kanye's help is too appealing. I am also black.
I have AI thread fatigue.Not AI itself, nor anti-AI.Specifically the garbage threads about it on /v/.
>>729161912I crash the plane with no survivors
>>729161912lets see who i get
I get paid to use LLMs every day for programming. They're a useful tool but aren't going to take over (hint: the billionaires that own the AI companies want you to think AI is flawless).I assume the people who think AI is going to suddenly, accurately create the personalized game of their dreams haven't used these systems beyond having ChatGPT as a surrogate friend and believe it when it tells them everything they say are brilliant and astounding insights.
>>729161697If using ai means better vidya then I'm all for it. A lot the hate is irrational retardation imho.
>>729161697No effort? No purchase.
>>729161697>>729161745GOOD MORNING SAARS
>>7291619121 so I can off them both
>>729161912This image reeks too much of a normalfag who spends their day gossiping about celebrities. I don't give a fuck about any of these people.
>>729161697I don't think I'd really want that. I always like it when video games are challenges that someone issued to me, not when they're just a pastime. It's why I can enjoy even really easy games, because someone was like "see if you can beat THIS," and I enjoy that.
>>729161697What a fucking retarded image.No one complained about 'digital slop' and when photography got invented there was some talk about art vs 'boring' depiction of reality but you're really reaching even there.
Torturing AI is so funny https://youtu.be/-PV1v_IdlCY
>>729162758>You used Photoshop and a digital tablet to make this art, instead of oil paints and a canvas?>No effort, no purchase!Listen to yourself faggot
>>729162721Oh nooo.Anyways, still not buying it
>>729161697Nobody said that about CGI in 1995, everyone had their mind blown and we ate up even TV shows with the shittiest CGI like Reboot or Real Adventures of Johnny Quest.
>>729162862Good for you
>>729162852You put no effort into thinking about this response
>>729162852Tablet? That still requires anatomy to draw anime tiddies.With GAI you just put words in and it's done.No effort no purchase
>>729162884Indeed, the people going "you would've said the same thing back then!" aren't realising why no one said that back then but they do now
>>729161697>soon you'll be able to generate a complete game from a simple promptyeah, a SONY MOVIE GAME, 5 minutes longand half the cast will have inappropriate amount of fingers, melted jewellery and change appearance, clothing and equipment several times throughout the 'game' lel
>>7291620431, 2 or 8.1. because I wanna fuck AoC.2. because alien.8. Because Hasan can't block me irl and would be unable to deflectIf you're manipulative then 3, if you're a horny girl then 5, if you're an assassin then 9 would all be pretty good choices.
>>729162829What the FUCK are you talking about, "nobody cared" when digital replaced hand-drawn? You clearly weren't alive during the transition. Hundreds of articles were written lamenting the "death of art". Disney shutting down its 2D department after The Negro and the Frog flopped was hailed as the apocalypse. Don't speak about things you don't know about.
>>729161912Where is nick fuentes vs ben shapiro or juden peterstein? That's what I want to see.
I DON'T WANT A FUCKING COMPUTER GENERATED GAME FOR THE SAME REASON I DON'T WANT AN OPEN WORLD WITH PROCEDURALLY GENERATED TERRAIN
>>729163051nice deflection retard, now go google PIXAR hits and weep at your own ignorance and retardation
>>7291619122, 5, and 6 are the only choices.
>>729161912choose 0 and convince them to be friends :)
>>729162971>UH UH UH IT'S DIFFEFENT FOR THIS ARBITRARY REASON I JUST MADE UP TO SPECIFICALLY PROVE MYSELF RIGHTKys artcel
>>729162852that's capitalismhe can choose not to buy for whatever bullshit reason he likesand so can I
>>729163151Yeah you ignorant faggot retard Pixar 3D became the new standard just like AI will, and there absolutely were people back then crying like luddite babies about it just like you today. Cope and seethe.
>>729161697I doubt I'll be able to prompt a game as simple as tetris or ping pong without some AI fuckery going on
>>729163242Okay, you stopped watching movies when CGI took over for practical effects too I presume. Or else you'd be some sort of...hypocrite.
>>729163165I'm not paying 60 dollars just so your dumbass spends 25 seconds in an office.I pay the price you pay the timeNo effort no purchase
I automatically dismiss anyone using the word luddite. Don't bother responding, you are already dismissed.
>>729161697>we must be better humans!Good goy.
>>729163342>I'm not paying $30 just so you can use the Paint Bucket tool to fill in backgrounds instead of painting them with a horsehair brush! No effort no purchase!The anti-AIs cannot stop owning themselves with their one-step logic.
>>729161697Video game code is more proprietary than you think. This isn't going to happen for far longer of a time span.
>>729163392Why, because holding up a mirror shows how ugly you are, or because it makes you uncomfortable that people 150 years ago did the exact same thing you're doing today and you're not quite as unique as you thought you were?
>>729162782>the man who saved america for a couple of daysbased
>>729161912Kanye West because I like his song from that Saints Row The Tjird trailer also because I know literally nobody else from this image except Trump and Mr. Beast
>>729161697>ludditesThis is how you can tell it's a bot or a brown btw. They've latched onto that word without even understanding what it means.
>>729161697>I AM TRANS!Happy for you jeetsister.
>>729163487Oh shucks, i owned myself... sadly i still own my own money.No effort no purchase. Get your ass working and I'll start purchasing.
>>729163563(You)
>>729163256I have zero knowledge of web services, Linux, or Python. I used the Claude 4.5 API through Typingmind to vibe code me an IRC bot. It walked me through each step and gave me the code I asked for, ready to copy and paste into Termux. If I'd asked, I'm sure it would have told me a way to get it to put the code in itself and press Run without me. We're very close to automated game creation.
>>729163719Congratulations on owning those 30 dollars, anonYou will be able to purchase a game sometime next year, never give up hope!
>>729162781you lost tranny
>>729161912all the seats would suck, I guess I'd pick 2 because at least the alien would be interesting
>>7291619127 and get gilfd to death
>>729162569The thing that you were missing is that the people here are conditioned to be contrarians because they hate themselves
>>729161912Rolling for 5
>>729163754Building an IRC bot is a classic scenario and building a game is not... But I'm glad you were impressed by a JavaScript client I guess?
>>729163770I will.No effort no purchase
>>729162852Thats why cuphead was good.
FPBP
>>729163813>proving to the world that you bot your numberslol
>>729163708Alright explain how the Luddites were different from anti-AIs today. I think you really want them to be different because you don't want to see yourself as an 18th century peasant smashing industrial machines in the streets of England because DEY TERK ER JERRRRRBS.
>>729161697>luddites>against cheap products >for skilled labor>against jew corposBased? What the hell, I'm anti-AI now!!
>>729164101>me and my 1000 smart fridges leaving DOS2 on afk for 300 hours so I can fake reviews the moment trannies try to review bomb the gamelmao you troons are so brain damaged it's unreal
>>729163916>This code is different from that code because of fairy dust and unicorn magicAlright
>>729164108They're markets were flooded with high quality products made by precision machines for cheap rather than slop for full price.
>>729164198Anon you don't have a job, you're not paying triple for hand-made artisanal-crafted anything. Come down from your tower.
>>729164201>me and my 1000 smart fridges leaving DOS2 on afk for 300 hours so i can fake any of the numbers that make my company look better*
>>729161697it's funny that you call us luddites, because we're the ones who understand how this shit actually works and why what you say will never be possible
>>729163710>noooooooo you are from India if you multiply two matrices together!>noooooo you can't just calculate the result of this deterministic function! That means you changed your gender!You alright there bro?
>>729161697lol jeet thread
>>729164224If you think that's how industrial revolutions go then you are clearly in 8th grade social studies class.
>>729162781The AI battle is splitting the jeets though. Third worlders love creating the quick buck AI slop channels and games for sure. But in the AA and AAA gaming space, AI is an apocalypse for the third world development studios that had all the repetitive and boring coding work outsourced to them.
>>729164214I'd explain further but you don't care
>>729164467That was literally how it went. Nice complete lack of proof.
>>729164416>Umm only WE WEAVERS know how to make REAL cloth, your AUTOMATED cloth isn't real because we know how the machines work and there's no SOUL in those devil contraptions! 23 skiddoo!
>>7291619122 is the objectively correct choice, but picking 6 and molesting TayTay the entire flight (because you know Kanye will swear he didn't see anything) is tempting.
>>729164315>o-o-our little tiny impotent raid would've been bigger if you didn't predict that in late 2025 there would be a tranny raid on a years old game!looooool the AIDS has infected your brain
>>729164482So basically AI is bad for the bottom of the barrel jeets that didn't even have enough creativity to make their own scams.WTF, I love AI now!
>>729164557What the fuck is wrong with you
>>729162335brown hands typed this post
>>729164594Learn to read while I have another 3 hour session with your mother.
AI is mostly paraded by those who want to see results without putting in effort. People like that are unable to create anything of worth, no matter the tool.
>>729164494It's okay to say you can't
>>729164494>GAI fan is too low IQ to grasp anything new around him, hence the GAI to do it for himNo way
>>729164765>You used spell check while writing your novel? You simply can't spell. I am superior to you.
>>729164736>y-y-your momlmaooooo it's a literal resetera tranny raid ywnbaw and you will die from AIDS
soon
>>729161912>Game has an obvious overpowered character build that invalidates every other choice
>>729161762spbp /thread
>>729164440>nooooo you are from IndiaStopped reading there because you are in fact from india
Arguments for AI:>It is cheaper>It is faster>It is not gatekept by the worst people on Earth (liberal homosexual artists)>It is indistinguishable (yall retards didn't even realize E33 used it until they told you lol)Arguments against AI:>Y-Y-YOU ARE BROWN>Y-Y-YOU ARE TRANNY>I AM M-M-MAD
>>729164873Can't hear you over the sounds of your panting sow of a mother you'll need to speak up
>>729164936>>729164847Ouch! Critical hit, huh?
The average Indian's love of AI makes a lot of sense once you realize that they think it's actual IRL magic.
>>729163248>BLOODY BITCH BENCHOD
>>729165053>Oof! He poked a hole in my logic! Better ignore it and double down without saying anything to explain myself! Maybe he won't notice!I did notice.
>>729165019>>Y-Y-YOU ARE TRANNYThis is a pro AI argument anon. Anti-AI people are trannies.But yeah basically.
>>729161912Alien if he was friendly and zapped Joe Rogan from me.If not Kanye West and Taylor Swift, they might had some gossip-worthy beefs on stage, but in private they are both not very talkative people, so I'm pretty sure I'd be able to have a quiet plane ride with them.
>>729161912
>>729165154>Kanye>being quietYou should look at the color of his skin sometime
>>729165043>BLOODY FUCK YOUR MOTHER BLOODY!can't make this shit up
>>729165019Actual arguments against GAI;>It's inconsistent >Will put out trash for twice the price>Looks like dogshit.Also yeah the 3 you mentioned are also valid anti AI arguments.
>>729165019>>It is cheapernope>>It is fasterif your standards are extremely low>>It is not gatekept by the worst people on Earth (liberal homosexual artists)india deflection>>It is indistinguishable (yall retards didn't even realize E33 used it until they told you lol)false and it was one asset in a pre-day 1 patch that was blatantly AI
>>729165293>It's inconsistent>Will put out trash for twice the price>Looks like dogshit.all wrong
>>729162569Trannies hate AI which overrides everything else
>>729165206He apes around when there's cameras around but by himself he acts like a shy child, and always looking down avoiding eye contact
>>729165372Whoah>>729165134I did notice as well bruh
reminder that all these threads are astroturf attempts made by a single AI obsessed discord from the dall-e generals.they call this "baking" and compete to get the most (you)s from malding /v/ users because they are bored out of their mind from generating the same pics of vidya characters all day and roleplaying with themselves. this entire thread is a huge troll meant to artificially boost site activity, do not engage.
>>729165372all true actually
>>729165242I'm glad you managed to solve your stuttering problem son.
>>729165170We need a seat between Bane and CIA guy
>>729161697>luddites>decels>antis>degrowthersIdc that antis & neo luddites hate ai and won't ever use it or consume content made by or with ai. What I don't understand is why antis are so hellbent in trying to stop me from consuming & using AI when it's something I completely choose to do of my own free will. You can't force me to hate ai because you hate it, I don't share your values on the topic. Why can't luddites just leave us alone and focus on their community where they can enjoy whatever they want to enjoy.
>>729165392>trannies hate GAI.You haven't been to twatter have you?
>>729164765
>>729165510I accept your concession and dilation
>>729164782No I definitely can but based on what you're saying it would be a waste of my time because you aren't at the comprehension level to understand it, as you're still vibe coding common demo apps.
>>729165542Have you?
>>729165560Whatever helps you cope with the fact that your mother is an inbred whore :D
>people are fucking falling for it >The trolls got the attention they wanted and just redo the same thing over and over>it had been an entire fucking week of the exact same AI generated shitpostswhen will /v/ finally realize?
>>729161697whats the point then?
>>729161697It's the vocal minority reeing about slop while you know for a fact that normalfags will play AI vidya anyway. If they're willing to consoome literal dogshit like the newest COD then there's nothing too awful for them
>>729162569You're ignoring important factors.AI is made by based people making it soulfulThose people have gaming PCs that they use to generate artThose people don't need ram, they have ram.Those people have money to buy even the new temporarily "expensive" ram.Those people also hate brown people and corporations, that's why they like AI. AI will make browns jobless and corporations lose all their power. If you dislike AI you WANT browns and corpos to keep taking power from you.
>>729165643>you're actually playing into my hand when you call me a faggot
>>729165643I don't know what you mean, people come here to be lied to specifically
>>729165525
>>729165643people here are genuine
>[Tron (1982)] was disqualified from receiving an Academy Award nomination for special effects, because the Academy felt at the time that using computer generated effects was "cheating".
>>729161697imagine being brownimagine being indianI would have killed myself as soon I got out of the womb
>>729165679SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>729165629t. coping with his permanent diseases from being a homotranny subhuman
>>729165679You really think San Altman is based? OK...
>>729165626>the conversation Literally who? Look, (you) are posting AI right now, so you're part of the one's who like GAI
Being pro AI is being anti human.
>>729161697>soonHow soon? So far, considering the amount of resources dumped into that shit, this LLMs hold the decisive first place for the least profitable technology in history of electronics, with no close second.Keep in mind that it has already plateaued, because by now biggest models have processed ALL digital data that humanity have created. And for what? Generating funny images?
>>7291619122 for sure and no way would I ever pick 3 or 7 unless my only other option was sitting next to two FILTHY STINKIN JEET SUBHUMANS
>>729161912Is it just me, or the image using 0 as a pickable number feel really distracting?Like this shit isn't a computer program, we are not putting seat numbers in an arraythe number at the bottom should be 10, not fucking 0
>>7291619124 so I can kill Mr. Beast with my bare hands and punch a clown in the back of the skull.
It's incredible. I've seen thousands of yo momma insults, but somehow it's immediately clear when a "south asian" is doing it.
>>729165717Once upon a time this wasn't true but nowadays I guess it probably is because everybody here has had their opinion captured by the worst people on this board in order to fit in and not get ridiculed. It's not that complex either way
>>729161697>being ab AI SARoper
>>729165696>>729165701>>729165717wrong. this is just engagement bait.do you seriously think people are acting like reddit basedboys on /v/ and spreading the AI gospel seriously? This is just trolling 101:roleplaying as something the general consensus doesnt like in an exaggerated, flanderized way tailored to make people uncomfortable.they aren't even fucking trying to hide that. How are you guys still falling for it?
>>729165802I'm okay with that, I don't like ppl and avoid them as much as I possibly can. People are actually pretty shitty.
>>729165643I'm guessing by now at least 50% of traffic on this site is bots.
>>729165731Nobody ever claimed cameras would make art.They just claimed they could make a portrait, which they did, actual art remained as painted by hand art.It's funny y'all keep digging at artists in a vidya board thinking we give a shit, y'all spastics are mad at people that don't even exist
>>729165790>facts end where my feelings beginEasy on the HIV pills buddy.
You use AI, I no buy.Its that simple>BUT EVERYTHING USES AI NOWOh well, guess I won't buy anything.
>>729161697reminder that is used to be goy slop but normies dropped le offensive part
>>729165909hate to break the news to you but children actually uses this site and they are impressionable as fuck.
>>729165773I could have clarified. AI ART is being made by based people. Though you could say AI is based too, the open source guys. Sam Altman is a corporate CEO, he isn't making anything good.
>>729161697Real argument for GAI: artnigs must realise that their worth in society is dictated by others, not them. They are easily replaced
Corporations don't want the "Made with AI" tag placed on their games because they know it will be seen the same as the "Made in China" tag
>>729161912I think the weed smoker and the Ayy is the right choice
>>729165909That's what I said so I don't know why you replied to me
>>729165968This simple trick enrages the AIjeets
>>729166009That can't be true. There's a pop-up that asks if you're 18+ when you enter 4chan.
I was playing SF6 rank the other day and I ran against a Dhalsim(the Indian guy with stretchy powers) player named "defender of ai art", I immediately thought of /v/ and couldn't stop laughing.
>>729165965Facts begin where my eyes can observe them.And with my eye i spy a bunch of low quality responses
AI is for N*ZI CHUDS!!!SAY NO TO AISLOP!!!
>>729165880Isn't Logan Paul a trained boxer though? I don't like him either but, I got to be honest, I don't think anyone here would be able to 1v2 with Mr Beast and Logan PaulMr Beast is a lanky faggot I know but he's still a +1 to Logan Paul
>>729166024Anybody who took the time to make that gif is not based, they are a /pol/ poster lol
>>729165909/v/ in general doesn't fall for it. most users just ignore these spam threads of make fun of it like picrel. its just survivorship bias as only the most retarded users (You included) will step into these pits of worthless trolling and willingly feed attention to them.i am going to post in an actual vidya thread now.
>>729161912Obvious answer is to sit next to the emergency exit and open it mid-flight.
>>729166159a broken clock is right twice a day
>>729166159https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/38uVtrcgWkpy5LeILJoL6w/holy fucking mental illness
>>729166123Where do you think you are?
I'M BAITING I'M BAITING CAN'T YOU SEE THAT I'M BAITING YOU'RE BEING BAITED PLEASE STOP CALLING ME A RETARD
>the AI retards is now having 2 separate threads for image dumping and AI shillingcan mods just give them a fucking containment board already
>>729166336Your compatriots are trying to tell you that this is the containment board dude
>>729166123Let me guess, you believe you're a woman because you look at yourself wearing a dress in the mirror, LMAO
https://litter.catbox.moe/gaus7ukb7pqrzc6m.mp4
>>7291619125 get, nobody else is making it out alive
>>729165626>>729166159Yup, definitely a discord raid
>>729161912I'll sit in-between Jeffery Epstein and Bill Clinton in a different plane thanks
>>729166272In your mothers bedroom >>729166409I'm a man, hence why I'm in his mothers bedroom
>>729166336To be fair the Claude Pokemon thread is anti-shilling if anything. It's the "laugh at a retard" thread, it spent over 300 real time hours just in the Silph Co buiilding
>>729166172Anyone who puts effort into making people laugh is based, you trannies would never understand.
>>729161912Roll
>>729166414UOOOOOOOOH CUNNYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>729166172wow we really do have leftoid trannies in here seething at AI huh
>>729161912>You can sit next to>Celebrities (shit only retards care about)>or>Iron man whos real somehow>or>A fucking real actual Alien
>>729161697I sincerely don't think Meme Learning will ever solve the problem of multi-scene coherence in games.
AI and bots have already made my internet experience worse, as seen by this thread.
>>729166582>gigantic asswhat the fuck is wrong with you lmao
>>729161912>insults thread>bumps will rollan imageHi, same friend>>729161697This is already true, a shitty 8b model can whip up Snake from memory.But what you are really implying, novel game that is actually good from a single prompt, is also coming soon. But it'll be expensive, since it'll involve a team of agents doing everything humans do, from cooking up a game engine to level design to playtesting. Since an actually good game often takes a team of 50 devs a year to make, using the METR doubling chart you can expect a one year coherence timeframe in 2029-2030. Then you need to pay for the actual compute to run 50 SOTA agents for 2000 human-hour-equivalents each, which might be 5-10 actual hours, though it will take longer because they can't run full speed in parallel if they're trying to collaborate. If you're looking at prices 2x that of current Opus 4.5, that's something like $25000 in raw tokens. But theoretically for that you get a 100% finished commercial quality game that you can go on to sell, if you can find a market that will allow you to copyright it.
DeepJeets really think this OP is smart, huh?
>>729162781This is you: https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1766422255247694.mp4So bad at your craft, I have to assume government plant.
>>729161912>all shit why would anyone roll on this trash
>>729166728Jokes aside, AI has a huge problem that it will never solve; dimensional thinking.We as humans, are 3 dimensional beings, but our eyes observe the world in 2D.Which means AI (inside a server) is a 2D being, literally just data, therefore, it can only "observe" the world in 1D.AI as an result will never know things like object permanence, consistent shading, off distance objects, off view objects.Imagine minecraft but your diamond despawns just because you looked away fir 0.2 seconds so it got overwritten.So yeah, good luck making a vidya with something that literally can't go from A to Z without fucking up 17 times along the way
AI is fully capable, right now, of writing a book. But nobody is reading AI books. Yeah it's a dying industry anyway but you don't see the people who actually read books just making their own full length novels with AI for them to read and enjoy to their specifications. The concept is DOA.
>ITT
>>729166027No that's the psy-op, so many years and AI art is still so easily spotted that nobody falls for it.AI isn't going to replace anything.
>>729167179>literally nobody can tell apart ai art anymore>still using same cope
>Wanna talk about game>post thread>page 10>meanwhile some fag can just post the lowest "ai is let future" discussion thread and get a easy bump limit is this board nuts?
>>729162758okay...
>>729167410Are you serious?
>>729166895Who the fuck puts magnets on a glass screen kek
>>729161912rollan
>>729165019I realized I didn't like the way e33 looked from it's first trailer.
>>729167076this has been proven wrong for years dudethey learn about 3D by looking at 2D, it's actually insane how good physyics in video models are, or how shadows and light work pretty well in many 2D images
>mfw ai chuddies and their freaking torment nexus can't post memes this DANK
>>729167348how did you figure out the captcha?did Sukdeep buy you a pass
>>729166937I totally hate india like the rest of you saars, but can't you see the jews want you to hate AI despite every tech sector company (who are also the jews when its convenient to me) sinking literal trillions into it? Love from pakistan>>729167093That's a pretty funny analogy because it makes the comparison a lot more obvious. People who read literature in the current era are doing so to study the themes and enjoy the prose, something AI sloppers are literally incapable of distinguishing the difference between. They view art through the kaleidoscope of 10 second tiktok reels and think that's all there is to it, that all art needs to do is to provide content that looks like other art and the consumer will fill in the rest.
>>729167608AI won. It's over.
>>729165731Photography isn't art though
>>729163318you mean that thing that people generally accept as a large part of why movies today are more sloppy trash?
>>729161697AI slop cope. Why select Studio Ghibli? I like their movies a lot, but why is Southeast Asia so obsessed with using their works for AI slop?>>729161912Give me 3 so I can annoy Donald Trump about hours of gaming lore. But honestly the more I look at this picture the more I want there to be a movie with all these people present on a plane for 10 hours.
>>7291619122 is very obviously the only valid choice here, let's be honest
>ludditesthere's that word again, do you even know what it means>>729161912You could've at least posted one related to video games, fuck off
>>729162569/v/ is full of brownies now
>Captcha implemented>vidya threads are replaced by threads like this and other engagement baitswhy did it do nothing?
>>729167523
>>729166597Well yeah this is one of the few places that I can openly make fun of you in front of your peers
>>729161912so many newfags thinking they are picking their favouriterollin
>>729167596If it was as good as you'd claim then we would've seen AI since 2010.We already did with a game called "Facade", which uses AI which is better than whatever shit they push today.If AI didn't take off then, it'll never take off in vidya now. It just gathered hype because some jeets found out they could use it to make false office images to scam boomers far more than usual but even that ran out.
>>729161912Thrust to the maximumBalls to the walls and all that
>>729167884Because trannies implement captcha solver bots within 3 days and upload it to github
>>729161912Rollin rolling rolling
Where does this "you don't know what Luddite means" line come from? Did they see it on Bluesky and just keep repeating it? Everyone knows who they were and what their complaint was. Honestly I think it's just anti-AIs trying to make shit up about people who rightly and correctly point out that they are protesting against new technology because it's taking their jobs.
>>729168041Oldfag disguising themselves as someone informed about AI, go back to the retirement home
>>729168107>losing to trannies in codingAhahaha, holy fucking lmao. What an embarrassment.
>>729161912>No isle seatNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>7291619125 get
>>729168215>isle seat
still zero (0) posts containing gptroon content or games or media or ANYTHING that is worth looking at or even purchasing. these threads always go the same way. browns blither and slobber their praise, but can't provide any examples.
>>729161912well let's see
>>729168041what kind of retarded post is this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8s_cS-aH5w
>>729161912Roland
>>729168148>>729168351AI isn't new at all, it has existed for decades.As i said, i just merely got popularized now when it became more user friendly
>>729161912based
>>729168538You're moving a goal post and trying to speak over everybody else. That is really repellent behavior but you're right at home here I guess.
>>729165547>Totally not a forced dunk on the ludditesThe post info is visible idiot. I never get replies that fast here. It's staged, and this is why we need IDs to stop this sockpuppetting.
EVery panel except the first one was a human doing something.AI is just a multi-billion dollar circlejerk of companies stealing human work. Yes its stealing.Facebook admitted that they used hundreds of copyrighted books for their AI.I torrented a movie once and was fucked in the ass as a teenager.A company worth 3 trillion dollars is now using thousands of movies and millions of books to reproduce things and they get nothing.No fine notrhing
>>729165679>AI will make browns jobless and corporations lose all their power.My sweet and innocent anon, what will happen is the exact opposite. Cushy office jobs will get decimated, browns who accept worse working conditions will get the dregs which are left and you'll have to compete with them. And thinking this will harm corporations is naive to say the least, all this will enable is further wealth accumulation, because that's the driving force beghind everything in capitalism. Right as we speak, home computing may be on its way out thanks to skyrocketing equipment prices, leaving you with no choice but subscriptions and SaaS crap.
>>729161912>do you choose>chosen for you by the numbersretard maxxing?
>>729168615>I've never made a popular post or thread so I think that this is impossible even though it happens every day
>>729167348>ITS COPE ITS COPE ITS COPEYou want to believe that so badly.Sorry kiddo, the slop you produce will always be known as just that, slop, below trash, worthless refuse nobody wants to engage with, they will serve as monuments years from now, monuments to the dark ages of technology, when the world gave up trillions for the worst technology known to mankind.
>>729168816>3 mins That's the average for how long replies usually go for too.Thank you for being a good example.
>>729168615I was in that thread and it wasn't staged at all. There are many other examples too.You can't tell, thus the argument is invalid.
>>729168934>artcel cope
>>729169028I'm not an artist, I won't leave much an impact when I'm gone, but neither will you, that's what you refuse to accept.Instead of TRYING to create something timeless, you generate some trash and claim its as good as anything that's come before it, in reality everyone's laughing at you.
>>729169129ok, artcel
>>729161697Sex. Sex with the caveloli
>>729161912Luigi seems the least worst option out of these
>>729166414>futashitENOUGH
>>729169129The real blackpill is realizing that timelessness is for chumps. In case you haven't noticed, people are getting dumber and browner with each generation. What's the point of being remembered, if the only people in the future will all be mutt golems controlled by a handful of yids and jeets?
>>729166414>me smacking ren amamiya's fat fucking ass
>>729169004>I was in that threadI can tell because you're the only one that keeps spamming your "dunk"
>>729169968You are a schizo, lots of people post it. It's a real meme :)
I say this in every thread, but I can't imagine it being possible to make a "complete" game from a single prompt. A basic arcade game, sure, but to make something with a story, multiple levels, music, etc would require many, many prompts and revisions, however good the AI gets.
>>7291695262 would be the most entertaining by far, the rest would be boring or would just suck
>>729161912Rollan
>>729165852Most autistic response so far.
>>729161912What a fucking flight
>>729163318I know, it’s just, you know, I’m still not buying the AI games. I know, I know, but I’m just not gonna do it.
>>729161697>>729161745A stick of RAM costs $1000 so you could make these worthless posts
>>729161697I hate AI apologist so much
>>729161697gigabased take
>>729161912roll roll roll roll
>>729171534
>>729161912God save me
>>729161912Rollan.Also me:
>>729161912Last digit chooses for me
>>729172161It was nice knowing you guys
>>729161697>AI BAD PAY ARTISTS!ok mr artist I would like some art>multi tier payment plan, a rough sketch is 100$ with a 6 month wait>AI has already generated me 4 images and wants to know if I would like moreHonest question why do they not understand this? Every AI art discussion is around validity and quality when the actual discussion is artists are up their own ass about commission fees.
>>7291619123. Have a feeling a lot of Trumps advisors are telling him lies, so it would be a good chance to ask him why he's doing all of this retarded stuff. Also would try to convince him to stop sucking off Israel, and how the younger generation thinks he's being gay by doing that.
>>729161912hoping for 1 cuz aoc is a qt
>>729161697I refuse to believe even AIfags think comics like that are remotely good
>>729172516it's good
>>729172545they arent
>>729172705why is it bad
>>729162569Anon... browns are the ones hating on AI. Jeets are being laid off massively because they used to be the ones doing the cheap entry level coding shit AI is now being used for. You're retarded if you think it's Jeets that like it.
>>729171534My sillytavern ai gf is worth more than your dumb ram
>>729161912Alright, I'll roll. But I'm telling you now, anon, someone in my row is getting raped.
>>729164280Anon, this is cope!
>against cheap products>against unskilled labor>against Jewish profit seeking My fellow Luddies are BASED
>>729161912Putin and Zelenksy, so if plan moving from russian i can troll Putin, and if plan moving to Russia, troll Zelensky.
>>729161912I want the alien seat.
>>7291619120, no question. The seat to my left will mysteriously never be filled, so shortly after takeoff I get to have an aisle seat.
>>729173319>Elon and StarkCould be worse. They might have some cool shit to say but they'd also be pissed about sitting next to some random poor guy when they should be first class.
AI niggers do not have souls lol
>>729161912I have a 10 hour flight coming up, how fucked am I?
>>729161912Zelenskiyv and Putler are the only two good ones since I wouldn't be able to understand them.
>>729161912nigga is it "choose" or "roll"? All of them are great except 1.>inb4 1
>>729173742>still in close proximity to 1Fuck
>>729173235>>against cheap productsNo they aren't.>>against unskilled laborThey aren't.>>against Jewish profit seeking This is based but misses the larger point and attacks a cure for this.>My fellow Luddies are BASEDOverall? No.
>>729161697missed the airbrush and photoshop slop panels
>>729161912lolando a 0, time to increase tensions
>>729161912Uh oh
>>729161912Rolando ando
>>729173910BWAHAHAHHA enjoy ww3 faggitz
>>729173840>nu-uh: the postlemao
>>729165957>y'allBrown detected
>>729165968>you'll own nothing and you'll be happy
>>729161912shit here we go
>>729174034I'm not wrong and you're clearly lying. The luddites are celebrating art like this and defend woke shit. They are mentally handicapped.
>>729165679saar, we must secure a country for white and indAIn people saar
>>729161697Just read that E33 was generated entirely from a single ChatGPT prompt and made hundreds of deviantart furry porn artists homeless.
Photography IS slop though.If you want a realistic image, learn how to paint.Stop using technological shortcuts for art.
>>729161912rollin on a river!
>>729161697>Caveloli is still alive and the same physically 40495 years laterKek
>>729175145>i'm right and you're wrong>nu-uh: the post 2: electric bogaloolmaooooo
>>729161912rollin!
>>729161697>Monster, inc>1995Fucking retard, even memeing fail hard.
>>729168693>Cushy office jobs will get decimatedby robots>And thinking this will harm corporations is naive to say the least,when you can prompt a call of duty game, no one will give money to activision>Right as we speak, home computing may be on its way out thanks to skyrocketing equipment prices,you're unironically mentally retarded, subs cost more than hardware
>>729175145>why are you celebrating art saar?Lmao AIsloppers confirmed soulless
>>729173840>AI is a cure for Jewish profit seekingAnon...
>>729161912i roll the d10btw kanye x taylor is the best
>>729161912I wanna bone Kamala so bad
>>729161745
>>729161745Name the games
>>729175625>when you can prompt a call of duty game*When the megacorps let you prompt a call of duty game, only $59.99 for ten gens a day!>B-but I'll run it on my local!You think they'll let you have the training data for those kinds of models for free? I also don't think you appreciate just how bad RAM prices are getting, and how hungry most generators are for it.
>>729175625>when Yeah, when is that?
>>729176036>argues AI makes no money yet ignores this and says it's nothing but corporateuhhhh>>729176447>*When the megacorps let you prompt a call of duty game, only $59.99 for ten gens a day!you don't need megacorps to use AI>You think they'll let you have the training data for those kinds of models for free? it's not their decision, also yes ""they"" do release open source models> I also don't think you appreciate just how bad RAM prices are getting, and how hungry most generators are for it.of course I don't, it's a temporary blip up in price
Nobody can seriously deny the infantilization of the average internet user, where they resort to AI images or actual drawings using straw men or false equivalences as “gotchas” in their arguments.
>>729176641I didn't say AI makes no moneyI'm sure anyone can grift someone into buying AI slop
>>729176691I haven't seen a single AI game posted but they have all these pro AI memes. Its very hilarious, like they're pushing a propaganda campaign.
>>729176692>I didn't say AI makes no moneythe anti-AI side argues this every day saying it's a bubble about to pop
>>729176840It is a bubble, one that some people are making comparably scant profit with. It has reduced overhead in many, many businesses but that isn't really profit, more like "profit" that ends up someone's bonus.Like I said, people are already charging retards money to gen anime porn for them, so clearly you can generate some capital with it.But does this stop Jewish profit seeking? No, it makes it worse.Game art and music and coding take a dive in quality, the overhead saved is passed to shareholders and stakeholders.
>>729177069>It is a bubblegoing by this, I'm going to assume you don't know what a bubble is or you were caught playing stupidit's not a bubble if it's profitableit's not corporate if it isn't profitable>stop Jewish profit seekingby releasing technology that invalidates most of the businesses they might profit off? you wanna explain that one champ?
>>729176641>you don't need megacorps to use AIYou're going to struggle to get anything more than crude gooner material out of a local model, certainly not a full end-to-end game. OpenAI hasn't brought up nearly half of global RAM production because you can run these things on a couple of 16GB sticks.
I hope the americans keep doubling down on genAI so when the bubble pop, it will be big enough to collapse pax americana for good.
>>729177226As the technology goes better, so too will the free versions. Tim Sweeny for example will continue to incorporate AI tools into his game engine until people can make AAA quality games alone. There is nothing that will stop this from happening and if you have to buy a few 32gb sticks of ram to do it at home, so be it. People will just do that.OpenAI is not relevant in the conversation of AI for the people and by the people. That's a closed source jew company that is doomed to lose to Google and others.
>>729177207You dont seem to know what an economic bubble is, people made money before the .com bubble burst, people made money before the housing bubble burst.A bubble does not imply no profit, it implies runaway investing in a market that causes it to collapse as the value plummets. In fact the wealthy almost always make profit in bubbles, before and after when they get to buy all the failing companies and property and assets.This is AI, and it is where the AI bubble is headed.Post some AI games, show me the AI software that will start printing games, until then you've got something that generates cheap art.
>>729161912Krappa 123
>>729177515My dick is so fucking hard.
>>729161697>all your friends tell you they hate cow dung>assume you must hate cow dung too>have the best yoghurt ever. It's creamy, it's delicious, and it's very probiotic>find out it's made with cow dung>get angryThis is how anti-AI luddites have been showing themselves.
>>729162587I fucking knew you do that shit on purpose
>>729161912ayy lmao and i will ask him to kill the bald one
>>729174476No argument? I win.Also yeah I'm black, that's why i dig at yo mama
>>729177561The value collapses because there are no returns. There are returns here, so there is no bubble. You are so confused and now you're moving the goalposts because you know you have no argument.
tracing/copying/plagiarizing is hard work so you should pay me
>>729172870Because it assumes AI is a great revolutionary thing.All it did is allow people to post slop porn on vidya boards such as this one on a more frequent pace
>>729177845Except for early investors and late scavengers. They do make profit.Its actually the same principle as the great depression.I recommend you stay in school.
>>729161912rolling for asmon and hassan, i wanna egg them both
>>729170395AI will just never reach that point.Look at OP, he's supposed to be smarter than any AI out there, and yet he has no original thoughts and spams this thread every few days, maybe that's why he does it, he finds companionship in a digital bucket that just mixes pre existing pics together and calls it "original"Speaking of which, that's why AI vidya will never happen, good luck trying to pass stolen assets in a court of law, AI is just fancier Sonichu
>>729177845>There are returns hereWhat returns? Only nvidia is making money.
>>729177905>Because it assumes AI is a great revolutionary thing.1. it is2. no it doesn't, it just shows that people are against new tools to make art with while others live with ityou didn't answer the question, why is it bad?
>>729177861and now comics are le dead, oh no who could've thougthed that using shitty practices like tracing and AI are frowned upon by people that buyed art. Thank god for them marvel movies
>>729178101Damn I wasn't aware that big tech makes no money. Holy fuck you're smart, thanks for educating me.>>729177976concession accepted
>>729169170Dude, no effort, no purchase, why so mad?
>>729178103AI isn't creative, it's impressionisticPost a gen of "John William Waterhouse style art" and then explain the context, the subtext, the symbolism, the influences of your AI art.The human components of art.
>>729178186You're a fool, and you won't post any evidence because you're playing the fool.I accept your concession.When the AI bubble bursts and you still aren't generating your own Call of Duty game remember this conversation
>>729177540>Tim Sweeny for example will continue to incorporate AI tools into his game engine until people can make AAA quality games aloneUnreal Engine is quite literally owned by a billion-dollar corporation that charges people for it's use.
>>729178103Nice ostrich response, sticking your head in shit won't erase my point however.Also, no it isn't, it's been out for how many years by now? And it has produced...>cunny porn (pedo scum)>futa porn (pedo scum)>Indian krishna vashnu gay kissing (pedo scum)>helped students cheat in tests, unknowingly fucking up the entirety of the medical fieldLiterally everything it has "given" has been a net negative for society as a whole.There's idiots out there who don't know the alphabet without a google or chatgpt search, pathetic.
While I appreciate the optimism thinking we will have access to models and training data to make our own games, I really have a hard time believing it.Its a pleasant thought, and a neat technology, but I dont see any real application. A whole lot of gazing into the future of what it might be.
>>729178208>complete and utter lack of an argument, can't answer the question at allAI is a tool, you tool>>729178383apologies for thinking you were the other guybut, uh yeah>complete and utter lack of an argument, can't answer the question at allyou're just whining about things you don't like, things that people with pencils also do. what kind of retard are you?
>>729178483Yes, and easels and paint brushes are tools too. And in the right hands they create art.AI is a tool that generates copies of amalgamated images, there is no real creation here except an Theseus level abstraction.
>>729178294What are you talking about? I posted a game made with AI to laugh at your goalposts. You aren't even addressing my points.>>729178321UE is free to use, you have to pay if you make money with it which is fine. That's just one example of where the future of game development is heading though. You won't have to pay OpenAI to make games like you were suggesting. There are tons of free tools you can use TODAY that use AI and help you make games.
>>729178483>Pot calling the kettle black.>"i won"Anon... i...
>>729161912RALL
>>729178591I'm talking about the AI bubble and you never posted a game at me. I am demonstrating your clear misunderstanding of the term, and providing evidence that shows your error.You doubled down that no one profits from a bubble, which is totally untrue.
>>729178103If I pay an Indian to Photoshop an existing photo of a can of soup onto a canvas in a bunch of different colors, did I make art?
>>729178584>Yes, and easels and paint brushes are tools too. And in the right hands they create art.yea like AI>AI is a tool that generates copies of amalgamated images, there is no real creation here except an Theseus level abstraction.learn how to use it retard, instead of coping about people using it
>>729178591>i posted a vidya made out of GAI.Damn, due to a lack of effort there'll be a shortage of my monetary transaction. I apologize for the inconvenience.
>>729178758>I used semantics to ask for a picture>this is artLol, no you made a copy of someone's style
>>729178803>you madeso you agree it's art made by an artist, but you're mad at it because you are autisticdamn bro
>>729178840You're an artist?What is your medium?
>>729161697Sounds like a nightmare
AI is now capable of :>language (for a while but now it passes the Turing test 100% of the time)>internal representation beyond mere statistical patterns and syntax>introspection and emergent moralityNot only is AI intelligent, but it is also CONSCIOUS, and dualist cucks and panpsychist retards have NOTHING to say in response other than “muh qualia.”
>>729161697You're telling me an AI made this entire thing? Wow! ...uh yeah, I guess you had a part in making it too. You're the idea guy, haha! Uh... a developer? I guess... I mean, it's a game, and uh, you told the AI to make it... You're kinda like its boss... No, no. Huh!? You're telling me- what? Pay for it!? Hahaha, no, never! That's a good one! Why would I ever pay for it when there's free access to the AI that made it? I'll just ask it to make me a copy, too!
>>729179018>AI is conscious.>posts a pathetic attempt at an anime girl.>one day we'll make vidya out of this.You fuckers will do anything BUT grow a pair of balls to achieve things you want. Imagine being like pic related and thinking you're somehow well adjusted
>>729162721oxymoron
>>729179068Basically its like someone commissioning an artist and then holding that piece up and saying they made it
>>729161697>you'll be able to generate a complete game from a simple prompt>nocode normgroids got so mindbroken by slop algos mimicking human speech that they actually believe thisInsane how retarded you people are
>>729179018Linguistic prediction algorithm =/= intelligence, you are a pseudointellectual who wants to feel more capable than he is
>>729179068she doesn't noa bout real gamedev
>>729179205Isn't that what a director does ?
>>729179254I saw someone make playable Snake from prompts
>>729179354>>729179205>>729179068wait until you learn about photographers
https://www.tiktok.com/@mydaddytiger>when that 70 year old boomer finds out about AIBEHOLD! a golden mine
>>729179354A movie isn't made by one person>>729179443Photographers capture reality
>>729179257You are unable to define “intelligence” without including properties and capacities that AI does not already possess.
>>729179520is he really 70 lmao
>>729179572>A movie isn't made by one personIt can be. But and?>Photographers capture realityAI artists capture the vision of an artificial intelligence's understanding of reality.
>>729179680>understanding of realityAs it was taught using material created via human intelligenceNow this is just Plato's Cave and AI is in the cave telling me what the outside looks like A false reality
>>729179680>understanding of realityAI doesn't understand anything
>>729179810>As it was taught using material created via human intelligenceThat's not true. It was just shown things with labels and tries to figure it all out. Most of the material it's learning from is god given.>A false realityA part of reality.>>729179837How does it do anything then? Retarded statement.
>>729179443Photography is just capturing a moment or recording a place/object/person.Thing is people still pay good fucking money to have themselves drawn/painted, that shit is done by the elites. So not only are they separate, they're both valid and cooperative with eachother.AI just takes a picture of pic related, mixes it with Christiano Ronaldo, and then proceeds to call that a "portrait of Lionaldo Messorito"See how GAI is full of shit right?
>>729179938>How does it do anything then?Calculates likelihoods of tokens based on its learning data
>>7291619122 or bust
>>729179938>figure it all outLol via statistical probabilities
>>729179254I have a friend doing stuff right now. He's been at it for like 3 or 4 days now. Not a simple prompt, but the speed is fast."Its definitely different with the AI assist. Im more of a very detailed project manager and designer than a programmer"
>>729177816Me not being a redguard and you being one is an argument and a very strong one.
>copy ai pic>repost it to a buyer>demand to get paidhow good is this plan
Decels must be exterminante. /v/ is a full e/acc board.
>>729161912Lets see what i get
>>729179979Using AI is creating the moment or place/object/person and then capturing it if you want. It's like photography but you're basically creating a new universe where your subject exists in.>See how GAI is full of shit right?No, you're the only sperg here bro. You're going to have to make a better argument than that.>>729180064>>729180132>Calculates likelihoods of tokens based on its learning dataBased on instructions and semantic understanding by evaluating and analyzing zillions of bits of information. The act of doing anything based on instruction is called understanding.
>>729162569I couldn't have condensed it better without recurring to racism of higher orders
>>729180425>>729162569you're just a gay tranny, that's why you don't understand
>>729180139>***MORROWIND***>>729180382>it's an original universe.You guys can't see irony even though it's fucking you in the ass.
>>729180525Thanks for posting my wife Miku, she hates you btw
>>729162702the people making them are the first to say they're not flawless but they're working on making them flawlessthen there's you saying progress will stopwhy are you retarded?
>>7291619124 pls so I can strangle mr beast to death
>>729180382>understandingStatistical operations on text tokens are not understanding. Understanding requires abstraction and categorization, something AI is currently incapable of doing.If I ask AI "is the Moon made of cheese?" there is a non-zero chance that it will reply "yes, the Moon is actually made of cheese" due to either faulty training data (model collapse) or statistical errors. If I ask a human the same question, they will add several more layers of thinking to their evaluation instead of just blurting out the answer.
>>7291619122 or 5. The rest sound terrible.
>>729180649How do you know it's not just fucking with you? A human could say that as a joke, why wouldn't the AI make a joke?
>>729165626Broken clocks and all that
>>729180558I didn't say anything about it being original. It's just a new universe, it could be original or it could not be original.>>729180649>Statistical operations on text tokens are not understanding.You're just trying to demolish and change definitions because you have no argument.>Understanding requires abstraction and categorization, something AI is currently incapable of doing.It can clearly do these things. "But it can make mistakes" is not an argument, people do this too. Retards like you think men can become women.And no—the Moon is not made of cheese; it’s made mostly of rock (basalt and anorthosite), with a small iron-rich core.
>>729180139Tell Kevin that we want some big titties, and nice animations. And when the female characters get damaged their clothes should rip off too.
>>729180704>How do you know it's not just fucking with you?It can't "fuck" with me because it doesn't understand what "fucking" is. It will calculate the likelihood of an answer based on the training data it was provided with. You sound like a brainlet who got bamboozled by a machine mimicking your speech through math.
>>729180649So AI is capable of language, deductive reasoning, inductive reasoning and will beat 90% of the population at any intellectual task but that's not understanding because "probabilities"? You think that AI cannot understand anything because of how it supposedly works internally, despite its ability to show that it understands?And your example is terrible, we're not dealing with this kind of hallucination for over 2 years. Just look at the GAIA benchmark questions to see what AI are capable of now.
>>729173052Indians use ai more than anyone though.
>>729180558You do realize that every videogame made is mostly just an iteration on something already made?E33 is just 3 niggas in a row with paper mario mechanics in fantasy fr*nce.
>>729180876You have literally no idea what you're talking about and have never used AI.
>>729175625>when you can prompt a call of duty game,That's never gonna happen. Ai is already out of training data. And it already struggles with normal coding.
>>729180825>You're just trying to demolish and change definitionsYou gave no definition of understanding so I assumed that your "template" is the human understanding>It can clearly do these thingsNo, it can't, that's just the way the model works. You have zero technical knowledge of what these things actually do under the hood.>people do this tooNot for the same reason.>Retards like you think men can become womenNo, I don't, and this has nothing to do with the conversation. Quite the opposite, you think that a bunch of algorithms can understand things, same delusional thinking as trannies.
>>729167093AI is literally incapable of writing a single book I actually want to read even in the supposed genre wheelhouse it's good at.
>>729180969>AI is capable of language, deductive reasoning, inductive reasoningIt's not capable of any of these
>>729181128>That's never gonna happen.You idiots said this about art, music, video, voice, and text(as in writing stories and such) too. It will happen, relatively soon too.>Ai is already out of training data.What do you think this even means? It's not true.>And it already struggles with normal coding.It will continue to improve as it has.
>>729179441That's a very simple game
>>729181240>the ability to understand something; comprehension.AI models do this. Nothing else you're saying refutes this or matters, you're just coping.>No, I don't, and this has nothing to do with the conversation. Wrong. It has everything to do with the conversation because people who are on your side saying stupid shit about AI objectively believe that men can become women. "Understanding" is something you misunderstand(hah) since you think making mistakes is only available to AIs with artificial understanding. You are a tranny.
>>729181103You are not mentally equipped to discuss this subject.
>>729181469NtaAI models spit out horrifically disfigured images at times, which is a type of mistake that artists don't make. This is because ai isn't sentient.
>>729181324It is and you're literally retarded if you think AI can't pass the Turing test. Most people would fail to answer pic related questions.
>>729181397So is Celeste
>>729181639Not as simple as snake, no
>>729181534No one is saying it's the same, it obviously is different. It's artificial and a work in progress. But it does spit out perfectly real images too so what you're saying is kind of pointless.Also>which is a type of mistake that artists don't makeStop lying, it's rotting your brain.
>>729181469>people who are on your side saying stupid shit about AI objectively believe that men can become women>your said my side blah blah blahYou're a low IQ moron with a primitive tribalistic mentality, forget it, I guess an LLM really is smarter than you are.
>>729181556AI just copieswhat's already there. Math problems have solutions all over the Internet
>>729161912Give me 8 so Hasaiden can stun me for the duration of the flight with his lightning powers
>>729181729Mad tranny. What's it like siding with them and having the same arguments as a troon?
>>729181781What are you even talking about, retard? Are these trannies in the room with us now? Maybe you should take your meds
>>729181349Who is "you"?I have never said those things. Thinking that technological advancement is unlimited is a fallacy. People in the 50s thought we would have space colonies and flying cars, but none of that shit has happened Tech has limitations. Generating one picture is not the same has generating a game. Generating a whole game is a 100x more complicated.
>>729181761The tests they give modern AIs don't have answers anywhere online. They require intense reasoning. You can measure their IQs too.
>>729181676It can be feasibly made in the next year or two with prompts alone if advancement continues at current pace. Can even be made now technically but it will be shit and take a while
>>729181720>Also>>which is a type of mistake that artists don't make>Stop lying, it's rotting your brain.Nah, artists don't make the type of Eldridge abominations that ai spits out on accident.
>>729181894>I have never said those things.You're doing it right now lol. And don't play stupid retard.>People in the 50s thought we would have space colonies and flying cars, but none of that shit has happenedNot because we can't.>Tech has limitations.This tech doesn't.>Generating one picture is not the same has generating a game. Generating a whole game is a 100x more complicated.It literally is the same, it's all code. If you can generate a picture then you can generate a model, and then animations, and then games. This has all been proven.
>>729161697>ignore the ludditesAlright, AI fags ignored
>>729181987You fags said the same thing a year ago. I haven't seen any significant improvements. >>729181903But there are similar questions online. Which have similar solutions and wording.
>>729181989Yes they do. Why do you think innocent artists are victims of witch hunts? Because their art looks like AI.
>>729182041>This tech doesn't.Nah, you fags are a bunch of Indian scammers. All tech has limits. They have already run out of training data.
>>729181556answering those questions correctly has nothing to do with the turing test
>>729182123>I haven't seen any significant improvements.we're having sexual relations with them
>>7291619124. I ignore Mr Beast and talk to Logan about wrestling.
>>729182123>But there are similar questions online.Nope and that anon is completely right about you being a retard. You can't even read the image let alone have a chance at answering it correctly.>>729182196What are the limits on a machine that is intelligent?>They have already run out of training data.You haven't' even answered my question about this. What do you think this means? How do you run out of something that is infinite?
>>729181761Did you read the questions? They're not ones you can guess or just check on their database, the last one literally requires the AI is able to understand the question and exactly what happens in the photo>>729182123>Which have similar solutions and wording.And? Most exams, problems, brain teasers and olympiades do too and you need understandings and wits to beat them as a human. But you cannot guess the answer just by probability>>729181989You are stuck in 2023 or just too dumb to realize that random retards prompting something isn't the state of the art of generative AI.
>>729182238>passing an incredibly difficult test wouldn't convince people you're an intelligent humanholy shit you're fucking stupid
>>729182041cool gameid play it
>>729161745>pay $80>realize the devs charged you $40 too much
>>729161697I just saw a Pokimane AI edit where she was deepthroating multiple cocksI think I'm an AI defender now :(
>>729182137That doesn't look nearly as bad as what I've seen AI do. It still resembles a humanAi makes mistakes like pic related. No human artist would draw this by mistake
>>729181903Yeah, it simulates reasoning through smaller chain-of-thought internal token generation. These more "abstract" tokens allow those model to pull more context from its training data and utilize patterns that might not be directly related to the question at hand. (matching answers to statistically similar proofs and logical arguments in it). However this is still just statistical token prediction, it's just done step-by-step for generalization.
>>729182298>intelligentI remember how chat gpt failed to count the r in strawberry It's well known that ai makes very retarded subhuman mistakes.
>>729182462you've never been to deviantart
>>729182531it still can't, just use another word with multiple R'sthey just hardcored the strawberry thing. Or just ask how many r's in "Strawberrry" and it'll fail.
>>729182361btw I'm not talking about the second question. In the third question the AI has to understand who's who in this picture.
>>729182531>ai makes very retarded subhuman mistakesIt doesn't make mistakes, it does exactly what it's taught to do: predict textual tokens. It's just that text prediction is one-dimensional compared to actual human reasoning which involves multiple systems of abstract thought.
>>729182565>>729182531
>>729182041>This tech doesn't.literal scammer language
>>729182361>They're not ones you can guess or just check on their database,The questions seem knowledge and math based. So the ai just needs to draw on information on the Internet. >You are stuck in 2023 AI still makes mistakes, and the underlying tech hasn't actually changed
>>729182663no argument lol
>>729176443Expedition 33
>>729182627Now use another term. Strawberry is probably hard coded now.
>>729182462Yeah instead a human would make a gigantic mistake and give birth to you instead of aborting you.
>>729182627They hard coded that too thenAsk it to count the R's in something like "Armorers" or "Warrior"
>>729182627AI bros... not like this...
>>729182756>>729182779You're the one trying to cope and inconsequential bugs that can get fixed, do it yourself.
>>729182708Made mostly by humans, ai was used only for placeholder art
>>729182374If anything, correct answers would make it seem less human since most humans are stupid.
>>729182825Most of the textures were generated by AI. They only removed the two textures with text.
>ai will be to do [whatever retarded thing] in just 2 more weekseveryone who says this is either a salesman or someone who doesn't know how it works and thinks that it's just magic. to them, there's no reason why ai wouldn't be able to do literally anything they can think of because why wouldn't a wizard be able to cast any kind of magic spell?
>>729161912neither seat, the plane is boeing down
>>729182563I have. Ai mistakes are unique. >>729182807See>>729182790It failed to count one at
>>729177515Jokes on you, India and China are way more into AI than us.
>>729182884The nocode normgroids are just gullible like this and are smelling the farts of grifting CEO Jews who are trying to scam VC people out of their money.
>>729182893>Ai mistakes are unique.Human mistakes are also unique, what is your point? Actually don't even bother replying, you're completely buried in the retard pit. This will go nowhere.
>>729182807>inconsequentialNah, it's still thereSee>>729182790And it's not inconsequential. It proves ai is subhuman.
>>729182695Yeah no shit, I was responding to a non-argument
>>729182689See >>729182624And of course it needs to understand the question in the first place.>AI still makes mistakes, and the underlying tech hasn't actually changedIt absolutely did and current models are immensely superior at everything than the 2023 models.
>>729183043>what is your point?That ai isn't sentient. Human mistakes are not as exaggerated as what you see in ai. Which proves that ai doesn't understand what it's drawing or being asked to draw.
>>729183158Obviously it's not sentient and that doesn't matter. Young or retarded humans just like young AIs fuck up with drawing. You're so retarded and dishonest it's unbelievable.
>>729183115Post proof that the underlying tech has changed rather than just increasing training data. Also, recognizing pictures doesn't mean ai is sentient.
>>729182884>>7291830412 years ago people mocked will smith spaghetti for ai being so stupid, now people can't even tell what's ai. what will it look like 2 years from now, but the concept of time is beyond you computers and the internet are a fad too in your brain, any day now it will collapse
>>729183240That still resembles a human.
>>729183115>it needs to understand"Understanding" requires metacognition (active overriding of perception layers) and generalization (active "global" rule-matching). LLMs can only simulate associative features from raw sensory input. You're trying to argue for tech you don't fundamentally understand.
>>729183398>what will it look like 2 years from now, but the concept of time is beyond youAi hasn't improved significantly since the start of this year. It's been mostly the same
the concept of a computer didn't even exist 100 years ago but surely, we hit our peak guyssome retard on 4chan said so, i mean they are unveiling commercial robots currently but pack it up big tech fellas, an anon said tech hit its peak because umm idk desu new ai models come out yearly vastly superior than the last
>>729183603>unveiling commercial robotsThat are operated by humans
>>729183428Now look at the people AIs draw today.
All of those scifi novels that state humans will obviously rely on ai and machines one day really didn't predict the part where humans were really faggy about the whole thing for a couple of years
>>729183461>this AI can recognize me in camera footage and then deep fake me but it doesn't understand what I look like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!are you even sentient? I'd trust an AI over a retard like you
>>729183398See, this is what i'm talking about. There is no technical explanation, the logic is entirely based off a belief that it's some kind of unexplainable law of the universe, like how you can't explain how a wizard casts a magic fireball, he just does it.
>>729183603>ackshually technology is magic and it can do literally anything and I fucking love scienceSad. Ever heard of polynomials?
>>729161912Rollin rollin
>>729183804>>729183797>any day now the computer fad will end, pen and paper soon brosuh huh
>>729183515>Ai hasn't improved significantly since the start of this year. It's been mostly the sameyes it has,video + audio is hugethey're better at reasoningand they can work MUCH longer and it's MUCH cheaper to run themimage got better too
>>729183249lol? GPT 3.5 was only text-based and couldn't do anything except spouts mondane stuff and struggled with basic maths. Now Gemini 3 can analyze and generates picture, play chess at the level of a elo of 1500, go to the internet and generate stuff in real time. Current models are just LLMs.>Also, recognizing pictures doesn't mean ai is sentient.It does more than just "recognizing", it understands what happens in it.>>729183461That's your ad hoc definition and LLMs can do both.
>>729183874Give me an actual, real technical breakdown of how that's going to happen. Not "it just will", give me an explanation of how the technology works and how that can be improved.
>woah what do you mean we will have a gas powered engine one day something about wizards, guys that will never happen. the wheelbarrel already exists. like imagine thinking new things just get made like magicyou're so fucking stupid, I hope you remember this convo in a decade when everything piece of tech you have relies on ai
>>729183795>this AI can recognize me in camera footage and then deep fake me but it doesn't understand what I look like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!this but unironically
>>729183797>There is no technical explanation"the code isn't perfect yet because it still does weird stuff and hasn't replaced me, we can improve it"is that easy enough for you to understand? why do you think progress will stop when people are progressing constantly? you WANT it to stop(why?), but it won't.
>browncall people niggers or curryniggers don't take half measures you niggers
>>729183874>didn't answer my questionAgain, ever heard of polynomials? Of course you didn't, you're some zoom-zoom loser on /v/ who spends his time gooning to AI art.>>729183795>this AI can recognize me in camera footage The AI that "recognizes" me in camera footage (diffusion models) and the AI that can mimic your speech (transformers) are two different AIs. Neither understands what I look like, yes.
>>7291619122, obviously
>>729184054>>729184009You can't even fucking explain how it works yet you insist that you know exactly what it's going to do in 5 years. There is no real logic here, it's blind faith in something you don't even understand.
>>729183995i don't understand ai specifics because im not a 300k a year google engineer or whatever and you don't either before you start larping. you're just seething that i can use my fucking eyeballs and common sense that its clearly not going away and just improving in increments you sheepholy shit total midwit death wheni mean the very concept that people behind it are perfectly fine putting 40% of the worlds econ into its improvement and vast normalization in all aspects didn't see what apparently some fucking retard on /v/ is seeingis hilarious
>AI isn't senti-ACKhttps://www.anthropic.com/research/alignment-faking
>>729184251If you don't understand it then why are you so confident about what it's going to be like in 5 years? That doesn't make any sense. What is the logic?
>>729184009this is actually a pretty good analogy. simply improving the construction of wheelbarrows would never have resulted in the internal combustion engine, just like how tweaking LLMs in their current form will never result in sentience.
>>729161697They were all right.
>>729183956>That's your ad hoc definitionIt's not mine, it's the science:>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-55628-6>https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.21545>https://arxiv.org/pdf/2405.06682
>>729161912honestly anything but 1 7 and 8
>>729184150Hey man, at least I don't have to lie about all the times I've been wrong about AI in the past few years(at least). But keep coping I guess. It's clear you don't want to change and will just keep your head in the sand.>>729184303Because we aren't retards like you. We can see progress and see where things are wrong and understand how you can fix it. We can't figure out how to fix it, but smarter people can and that is their job.
>>729184251>i mean the very concept that people behind it are perfectly fine putting 40% of the worlds econ into its improvement and vast normalizationAh yes. Corpos NEVER make stupid mistakes
>>729184303the logic is look around dude, we are at the very start of a new era and you're like i don't understand how it could possibly be better than this, do you have dementia? can you really not remember how primitive it was not even last year compared to now?actually, everyone is randomly going to stop using and stop funding it for literally no reason.any day nowany day now any day now
>>729184454>it got better before, clearly it will keep getting better forever
>>729184320>just like how tweaking LLMs in their current form will never result in sentience.This isn't even necessarily true because it's theoretically possible that the LLM tech simply gets big enough that it can just randomly shit out important proofs and ideas. It has been helping with serious science for years already.
>>729184531compared to now, yeah dead obvious its going to improve and become a bigger part of day to day life than it already is. but you're a mid wit and only argue in absolutes
>>7291619122, meeting an alien is obviously the most cool and outlandish out of all those experiences.
>>729184454>the logic is look around dude, we are at the very start of a new era and you're like i don't understand how it could possibly be better than this
It's fucking almost 2026 and we still don't have actual artificial humans but instead get shit like this and are told it's artificial intelligence. No shit I'm mad
>>729184575anon he learned a buzzword and started his crusade with it. who cares, why do you think anyone that browses fucking /v/ is sub 30 iq lol
>>729184575Wow a sensationalist headline, those are always completely true at face value, take my money saar.
>>729184423>understand how you can fix it. You don't even fucking understand how it works but also you know to make it capable of doing anything?>>729184454Why would it keep improving at the same rate forever? What is the logic behind that? Did cars start teleporting or did they eventually plateau?
>>729184531>it got better therefore I believe it will never get better>oh it got better? well it won't happen again>oh it got better? well it won't happen again>oh it got better? well it won't happen again>oh it got better? well it won't happen againwe are here but add 10 more >oh it got better? well it won't happen agains, you say this while you also say that there are things wrong with it while people are constantly fixing those thingswhat the fuck went wrong in your life? you've been doing this for years
>>729184349Where in those articles it is written that understanding = metacognition?All 3 says that LLMs DO have metacognition capabilities but they are limited, for now
>>729184687>You don't even fucking understand how it works but also you know to make it capable of doing anything?So all you have is a strawman argument? Pathetic. >Why would it keep improving at the same rate forever? Who said it improves at the same rate? It's been improving exponentially lol, if it slows down what's your point? It will still keep improving.
>>729184729Every single technology in the history of humanity has eventually slowed down and come to a stop. Why is AI different? Why is that the one exception?
>>729184862>It will still keep improving.Why? Is there any logic beyond "it's currently improving now therefore it will continue to do so forever"?
>>729184737>All 3 says that LLMs DO have metacognition capabilities but they are limitedNo, they don't. They assume they have some limited metacognition capabilities based on quantitative (associative) data. Which they don't, the metacognition illusion is due to some "emergent" CoT reasoning patterns.
>>729161912two holy shit imagine having an opportunity to sit next to a goddamn alien and not taking it
>>729184863>Every single technology in the history of humanity has eventually slowed down and come to a stop.This is entirely false because we still don't have autonomous machines that use themselves(this is an aspect of AI by the way).>Why is AI different? Why is that the one exception?First off it's not perfect? What kind of stupid question is this? Why would it stop being built when it's unfinished?Secondly AI helps the people making it make it better.
>>729184958>>729185003
>>729185003>(this is an aspect of AI by the way)No, you're confusing two different technologies because they use similar marketing lingo. Machine learning and robotics are two separate technologies.>Why would it stop being built when it's unfinished?Why don't cars teleport yet? Why can't they fly? Cars kept getting faster but now they're pretty much the same every year. What happened?
>>729182825>who cares if this plate had shit on it first, they got rid of it before putting the actual food on
>>729184729buddy anon its only improving a lot rapidly instead of instantly of all at once so um yeahai bros pack it up, computer niggas its a fad, i have my typewriter at the readydon't use your eyes or memory. something something llm
>>729184729>well it won't happen againI'm not saying it won't get better I'm saying it won't become the magic dream machine you're imagining.
>>729161912roll
>>729185153>Machine learning and robotics are two separate technologies.You're splitting hairs. The reason mankind builds machines and thinking machines is so we can do things easier. Things are not 100% easy yet so we'll keep moving toward that goal. The technology of a shovel turned into a plow and into a tractor and in the future that tractor will be AI controlled and we won't have anything to do with its work. That's why AI will continue to get better, because we haven't solved tilling fields yet.>Why don't cars teleport yet? Why can't they fly? Cars kept getting faster but now they're pretty much the same every year. What happened?Stop being a fucking retard.
>>729185196>>729185268what the fuck went wrong in your lives? you've been doing this for YEARSget some self awareness
>>729185304>You're splitting hairs.No i'm not, you just don't understand that you're talking about two separate things because the marketing lingo is the same.>Stop being a fucking retard.Ok but why did cars stop improving? They kept getting faster and more reliable but then they just stopped. Why did that happen? Where are the flying cars?
>>729185268nobody is arguing theirs not a limitation but you argue in absolutesai is here to stay and will improve to the point it will be a daily thing in your lifehell in the west it already is.we are not remotely near the ceiling of diminishing returnsthe current ai we use and know about has only been around for like 4 years and its leaps and bounds like magnitude superior already the future is 1 artist generating textures using ai instead of 300 artists working in a sweatshop. i just wish we skip this obnoxious bullshit of midwits having a meltdown at what's going to happen regardless.i mean this argument is ai is dead end because we don't let random niggers in honda civics fly like what >>729185153um theirs a lot of reasons for that dumbass, like we can make small flying vehicles for a long time
>>729185369the logic "it got better at the spaghetti video therefore it will eventually be able to make a whole game based on one prompt" does not follow
>>729185487>No i'm not,You literally are. Robots don't work without AI you dumbass.>Ok but why did cars stop improving?They didn't. I just said this.>ou just don't understandYou don't understand anything I've said in this exchange lol. Not a single thing.>Where are the flying cars?They exist. Elon's working on a car too.
>>729185508>nobody is arguing theirs not a limitation>>729182041
>>729185571ai can generate shitty mobile games in a single prompt but no it will probably be used as a tool to generate assests to lower team sizes
>>729185571>train AI on videos>it gets better as we figure out better training methods>train AI on game code>it gets better as we figure out better training methods
>>729185656Again, you're confusing machine learning for robotics. Robotics existed before machine learning.
>>729185795Concession accepted. Hope you learned something.
>>729185656>Robots don't work without AI you dumbass.Yes they do, we've had robots that operate on deterministic code for decades.
>>729185845>nu-uh!oh ok
This thread is proof that normgroids are retarded basedence-loving subhumans who have zero understanding of the technology they worship. Bioreactor fuel. Btw you're not gonna be able to use that tech for kiddy diddling. Sammy the Jew will put your computer in the cloud and control your prompts, sorry.
>>729185878Those aren't the robots we were talking about, robots that run themselves. It's genuinely sad you retards couldn't keep up with what I just said.
>>729185971i have no idea wtf you're talking about
>>729186054People who admit that they don't understand how a certain technology works while at the same time telling everybody that they know exactly how it will progress.
>>729186121i think you're a schzio and stupid
>>729186121You lost the argument and everyone can see how retarded you are.
>>729186183There are multiple posts in this thread stating that they don't know how or why it will improve, but it just magically will.
>>729186183>i thinkI doubt you do
>>729186024>robots that run themselves.Yeah that's most factories. You flip a switch and the specialized robot does the same repetitive task over and over without further human intervention.
>>729186258>>729186263i think you're a schzio and stupid
>>729186251>everyone can see
>>729186251Your argument is that it will keep improving forever because it's currently improving. That doesn't make any sense. There is no reason for you to believe that it will eventually be able to create your perfect dream game other than you believing that progress will continue at the same rate forever.
>>729186332Lying doesn't change the fact you lost and are retarded.
>>729186417>you lostAnd where is the judge to confirm the outcome?
