Pure perfection - the game
>>729167368*pure pazzak
>>729167368one of the worst balanced games I've experienced. maybe it perfected the sleeping aid
>>729167368Peak Unc Goyslop
>>729167578Mockery: Faggot
>>729167368uncslop
>>729167368they should make a new one
>>729167368The perfect Star Wars game and it will never be surpassed. 2 fags need not apply, Avelonne’s old lady self-insert is single-handedly the most overrated character in western gaming.
>>729167368Cringe Joss Whedon tier writing hinging on memberberries. Notable for introducing the first lesbian in all of star wars.
SEX.
>>729167668>>729167745stop using this fucking word
>>729167368Early bioware games were so good. Obsidian emulated their style really well with kotor2 as well. I really wish more devs would try their formula since bioware sucks too much to do it now. I think Greedfall is the last one I remember, though I know some people will claim BG3 fits the bill
>>729167791>monkey paw curls
>>729168021>implying this is ever coming outThe studio Hudson created to make this game didn’t even have its website available when the trailer dropped.
Dark Forces 2, Jedi Outcast & Academy are all better than the Kotor series.
>>729167967>dragon age origins>jade empire>kotor>mass effectthis company used to mean pure sovl
>>729168021I actually don't think it's automatically going to be shit. Casey Hudson gets a lot of shit for Mass Effect's ending but he wasn't even a credited lead writer on it. As a game director he's still got an excellent track record and as long as he gets a good narrative team I'm going to have faith in this game**that doesn't actually exist beyond this trailer which is a glorified job posting
>>729167368Just completed this for the first time a little over a week ago. Slept on it as a kid since I never cared to own an OG Xbox. Would not have been able to appreciate it it back then either, but it was indisputably one of the best games I played all year.
>>729167578>muh balance
>>729168246My concern is what they will do to the corpse of KOTOR. It's not a sequel, it's just a game set in some indeterminate future that may reference aspects of the KOTOR games.
>>729168261Based. What was your build, choices and favourite planet. Will you try KOTOR 2 next?
>>729168416I think I'd rather them do that, a new game set in the same time period, than try to make a direct sequel and shit all over the classic game. A new game, new characters, minimal memberberries, it can work.
>>729168416There’s clearly a lot of love for KOTOR in the people working within the Lucasfilm/Disney corporate entity. That Hammerhead cameo in Rogue One wouldn’t exist otherwise, and the Force Dyad concept might as well be Revan and Bastilla’s bond with a new coat of paint. Hopefully all that will translate into treating KOTOR with some respect.
>>729168717>Hopefully all that will translate into treating KOTOR with some respect.I agree anon but we have to remember who we're dealing with.
>>729168416they can't rape it worse than SWTOR
>>729168519>Soldier, male - Jedi Guardian>A balance between light and dark based on what I would do in real life, but ultimately came out as a Supreme Lightfag despite the occasional murder (those Wookie slavers drivers needed to be killed, goddamn it.) >Favorite planet was TarisAnd yes. Currently playing KOTOR II with TSLRCM. About 35 hours in. Loving it.
>>729168936based
>>729168796I’m more optimistic when it comes to games, as opposed to the movies or shows, since Disney’s traditional attitude towards gaming is one of mostly hands-off ambivalence. There’s less odds of someone coming in to do the adult equivalent of a little girl trying to piss off her brother by taking his GI Joes to a tea party with her Barbies
>>729167368Been wanting to replay this on Deck but it seems that people are saying that emulating the Switch version is the best way to go. Can anyone confirm or deny?
>>729168936Blitzing through the Czerka port while fighting alongside the Wookie rebels is a great moment. Bitching about balance aside, KOTOR does a great job of fulfilling the Jedi/Sith power fantasy.
Reminder that it is canon that tight teen pussy is enough to bring a sith lord back to the light
>>729169180True and the Star Wars games released have generally been good. The issue is that they have not matched the sovl output of Lucasarts
>>729167414RIP
>>729169515In fairness EA had an exclusive deal to make stat wars games for like 10 years and they aren't known for their sovl. Now that other devs can make star wars stuff we might see some real gems
>>729169515Well EA’s exclusivity deal (which again shows Disney’s hands-off attitude towards gaming) definitely had a mostly negative impact. Now that that’s behind us, we will hopefully start to see an upswing. We won’t get to the good old days of prime Lucasarts, but the industry as a whole will never be as good as it used to be.
>>729168796I trust Saber with their remake after Space Marine 2 turned out good. I don't trust the faggots behind Fate.
>>729170010>remakethe fuck is happening with that anyway? Is that cancelled now there’s the new game coming out. Cannot understand why it's in dev hell unless they've fucked up something massively
>>729167368I DID IT ALL FOR THE WOOKIES (COME ON) THE WOOKIES (COME ON)
>>729170132Jolee would never invoke faggoty "music."
>>729170132based moody black man
>>729170121I wouldn't be surprised at all if it got intentionally delayed when the new one went into production. These big companies seem to love the idea of releasing the remakes/remasters closer to the new game in hopes of making it more accessible to newfags I guess
>>729170194Are you actually this retarded or are you merely pretending?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA5unWX0IRo
>>729170364I don't click malicious links, Vlad.
>>729170132No RPG party is perfect, but KOTOR comes pretty damn close. Everyone except Juhani and T3 is a 10/10.
>>729170518Don’t disrespect my nigga t3
>>729170808Look, he’s great in KOTOR 2. But in the original? Ehhhh
Is choosing non-lightsaber combat worthwhile at all?
>>729167858>tfw no nubile alien slave
https://youtu.be/OrvWhxaNQeI
>>729171101You can make fun Jedi blaster builds in 2, but not in 1.
>>729171159Home…
>>729168021God please give this the star wars 1313 treatment and cancel it
Taris is the best part.
>>729171159>Manaan makes the best theme>Selkath dialogue makes me want to plug my ears. Win some, lose some
>>729171353It’s good but too long on repeat playthroughs
A tedious slog, assisted slightly by the Star Wars brand, but that brand is as good as dirt in the present day. The role-playing boils down to Obvious Good Guy Choice vs. Obvious Bad Guy Choice, and the combat takes place in copypasted corridors where you perform the same best spell ad nauseum. The epic twist is fun when you're a teenager, but no later in life. The characterisation of party members is simplistic to the point of brain death. "Hello, I am an archetype you are familiar with." Whoop-dee-fuckin-do.
you go to more planets than I remember. I think I like Kotor 1 better than ME1.
>>729168021do they even have a writer yet
>>729167578>singleplayer games need balancingforward wipe with sandpaper until you reach the brain, william syndrome looking motherfucker
>>729171602Probably not
>>729171468What? Taris flies by on repeat playthroughs when you know where to go and who to speak with, especially if you don’t want to bother with side quests. Now Paragus/Telos? *That’s* a slog.
>>729171353>Remember those outcasts you sent to seek shelter in a hidden enclave? Did it make you feel good that you were able to save some lives from Malak’s bombardment? Too fucking bad, they all died out anyway. Fuck SWTOR.
>>729172061>t3 blown up>exile becomes some force consciousness for Revan>the less said about Revan the better>revans line is BLACKED >kreia is some edgy force spirit trapped by Darth fatassDid anyone survive the SWTOR massacre?
>>729172225Zaalbar and Mission got a comfy retirement on Coruscant. That’s about it.
>>729172365and together they made Vette
>>729167368It was alright. Maybe it's cause I grew up with FF but I don't like RPGs with so little to explore and see. This game is boring to look at, boring environments, copy/pasted linear corridors, little in the way of cut scenes, action or animation of any kind, everything takes place entirely through dialogue. Feels outdated upon release. Remember this game came out 2 years after FFX, one year after Morrowind and only 3 years before Oblivion. Seems like a low budget indie title despite being a Star Wars game.
>>729172602It’s great how the best part of SWTOR is just Mission, but a legal and canonically kinky adult. Also>Vette has a massive Wookie bushHmm.
>>729167368Maybe for retards. It's a worse game than BG1 and 2, worse than NWN1 and 2, and worse even than KOTOR 2. It's just a generic mediocre RPG, with a Star Wars coat of paint. Guess that is enough to excite the endless hordes of manchildren.
>>729172938>worse than KOTOR 2lmao
>>729173074Funny how you had to remove the "even"-part, so that you could continue to cope. It's a mediocre game, worse than the other Bioware RPGs produced in that period. Better than Jade Empire, but that's about it.
>>729170132Bravo, gaydar.
>>729171846They clearly didn't care or didn't have time to streamline for multiple play throughs.
>>729168246>but he wasn't even a credited lead writer on itThere were multiple interviews at the time in which it was stated that he and Mac Walters essentially locked themselves in a room and wrote the whole ending in an evening, resulting in what we got in the product.
How is Jade Empire? I heard it has a threesome ending and that's enough to make me tolerate chink fantasy if the gameplay is still good
>>729173581Pretty good
>>729167368I love the cover art of this game. It has that movie sovl
Should I play on hard mode or will it get too brutal as it progresses? Only played an hour or so on normal and it seems too easy, I can just spam whatever attacks with no consequences.
>>729174243Hard mode is easy outside of a couple of encounters, so go hard mode.
>>729171643oddly aggressive response. why are you so insecure about enjoying easy games?
Thinking of replaying it. What character build should I do? The first time I played I just bashed everything with a lightsaber. Is there any point in using party members other than the bald black guy and Bastila?
>>729173486NTA but the hate for the ending was and still is overblown as fuck. Mass Effect is ultimately a hero power fantasy story. Wow omg it ends in defeating the reapers with a fucking superweapon? No wae!!It could be better but it's not awful like people say. In fact these days you can just mod Starchild out and it actually makes the ending feel very organic.
>>729174321Go for a force build and just pummel everyone with force wave or storm
>>729174243For the most part, these games only get easier as your builds come together. There's usually a little bump after the beginning where they expect you to start thinking more, but then it evens out and I usually end up mindlessly rolling most encounters.>>729174419For what it's worth, I'm fairly ambivalent about it at this point, just wanted to clarify that Casey was indeed involved. I was unsatisfied at the time but that was 50% hype bubble, it felt just okay coming back to it in LE recently.
>>729167368Man KOTOR2 would be so much better...if that game was actually finished. Like, people praise the Restored Content Mod, but even with it, the game barely has an ending. It's super unsatisfying.
>>729172841>MIssion>legal
>>729174625>Man KOTOR2 would be so much better...if that game was actually finishedGood news
Is there a guide I can follow to get the most out of game? I've heard unlocking the robot is hard for example unless you have certain skill builds and stuff like that.
>>729174676I thought that died years ago.
>>729174697Which robot? The robot companions are easily obtained in both games.>>729174721You should know that nothing stays dead in Star Wars
>>729174697Just go Scout. That gives you enough martial ability to fight toe to toe, and the class skill of repair.In 2, it's just a matter of not missing certain parts Ice area ambush by HKs has a part you can miss, and there's a merchant on Nar Shadaa you can kill before you get it if you're retarded
>>729174676yikes
I'm playing KOTOR 1 for the first time right now. Currently on Tatooine which I chose as my first planet to visit after Dantooine. >soldier starting class>pump CHA exclusively because I always like getting to choose the special dialogue options>choose jedi consular>instantly unlock highest tier of force persuade>now have sunk all my points into two feats that do exactly the same thing and stats into one stat that was made completely redundant with force persuade>am a complete bitch in combat encounters, do zero damage and 100% rely on bastilla to kill things and heal the partyDid I fuck up? I hate cringe DnD rules. I love everything about the game except for the stat and d20 roll system.
>>729167368The movement in combat is completely fucked, the combat only works as long as you stand in one place and attack.
>>729175372force persuade and persuade are sometimes two different things. CHA works well for force power builds alongside Wisdom so go for force powers like push/whirlwind/wave, shock/lightning/storm, destroy droid etc
>>729172779>FF>RPGlol, lmao>boring environments, copy/pasted linear corridorsWay to out yourself as not having got off Taris.>cut scenesboo hoo weeb, go jerk off to an animeCan't even bother with the rest of your faggoty post.
>>729173581Install Jade Empire in Style, this mod is a great rebalance that also unlocks unavailbale combat styles and rewards you with extra learning points if you don't suck in combat.
>>729175789Oh, I thought force powers scaled off WIS only. I got fear with the intention of getting insanity. I like the idea of being a conniving little nigger that just fucks with people's minds and leaves combat for "the help." Can I get by on cc alone or would it be wise to get an actual damage dealing force power?
>>729176274It's the secondary attribute for force powers making them harder to resisthttps://strategywiki.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic/Attributes
>>729174697>https://sites.google.com/view/by-xdsx-kotor/ls-scoundrel7consular13Probably the ultimate build for Kotor 1 that is good at everything. But in the first game you only need 17 Repair to fix HK 47, and maxed out persuasion with decent CHA for dialogue checks. Everything else can be covered by the party.
>>729176672It's been a while for me, what even is there in terms of Persuade checks in 1? I remember feeling like I wasted my points because it was almost always haggling for a better payout or skipping some small scuffle.
>>729176274>Oh, I thought force powers scaled off WIS onlyI think WIS gives you extra Force points, but both stats increase your DC. And you don't need more than 16 CHA total.>Can I get by on cc aloneKinda, it's possible to CC everything including the final boss if you know what you're going. But he is a much more difficult fight than anything else in the game.
>>729168231It meant pure mediocrity. People thought Bioware had soul because they thought the next game would be better, because the first games had so much potential despite the mediocrity. Bioware has never once lived up to the potential except for with Baldur's Gate 2. Every other sequel they didn't expand on the first, but completely changed directions.
>>729176831More money and more satisfying quest resolutions. And you never have enough money in Kotor 1 if you want to equip most of the party with the best stuff.
>>729168246A director can tell the writing team, "This sucks. This does not align with the vision. Get your shit together."
>>729167368Memberberries the game. It is just blatantly a copy of ANH with a few bits from ESB and ROTJ thrown in.
>>729177282That's fair, the guy on Yavin has some ridiculously good gear.
>>729177379All of Star Wars is like that.
>>729174650Legal where I live faggot
>>729168231For a bit. Then it ended, like good things always do.
>>729177184I don't know man. ME2 was a pretty big fucking improvement over ME1
I hate being one of those people, but the writing in this game is abysmal compared to KOTOR2. I mean seriously, it's amateurish and cringe when you replay it and listen to how basic and boring all the dialogue in this game is, I'm not saying KOTOR2 is some kind of masterclass in writing or anything, it's just when you compare the two games it's like one was actually written by an adult and the other by a middle schooler.
>>729179496>ME2 was a pretty big fucking improvement over ME1brave words to say on /v/
>>729167368>Uncslop
>>729179616The part the was most jarring to me was how juvenile many of the player dialog options seemed. Lots of needless exclamation points and goofy choices.
>>729179818It really was noticeable when I replayed it last year, it had been so long, probably not since I was a kid playing it on the original xbox and the dialogue is just really really bad. The atmosphere and everything is still wonderful though. I'm not saying it's a bad game, it's just not what I remembered it being, and playing KOTOR2 right after made it really glaring the difference in quality, not that KOTOR2 doesn't have a whole slew of its own flaws.
>>729171353Taris really misleads you about the boring ass boomer games you’re about to play. Can’t believe I actually let uncs convince me to play this trash.
>>729168021>strong womyneasy pass
>>729180143kreia and the canonically female exile exist. plus star wars having a strong woman is not some crazy thing.
>>729174676Great now they can insert GLOBOHOMO with CURRENT THINK with a FAGGOT on top.
>>729180483fuck you
>>729167368It was a prototype for mass effect.
>>729180483Most Star Wars fans agree that Jedi Jesus is the true Exile.We don't talk about TOR.
>>729181235>handsome cis white human dudefuck that. the exile is a twi'lek
>>729181460>handsomeHello, Handmaiden.
>>729181517Do not charge up her landing pad
>>729167858>game won’t let you romance her because she’s a teenTeen me was so pissed.
>>729167368Time for my yearly KOTOR playthrough. Thank you for the reminder
>>729167368Bastilia was one hot ass bitch.
>>729181835In the shitty MMO you basically can. You get a blue Twi'lek slave who is identical to her and with the same VA.
>>729182564and you can punish her which she enjoys
>>729174625I've never understood the claim that KOTOR 2's ending is unsatisfying. You have a cool epilogue from Kreia prophesying, which has variances depending on your choices as well as romance choice. Additionally, you get the ending which your choices led you to. You either stay in Malachor and wait for students to train to the dark side, which you will direct to help Revan, or you destroy Malachor and follow Revan directly. It's pretty clear cut, with a mysterious enemy shown for KOTOR 3, which just happened to not materialize.
>>729167368It was solid, but far from pure perfection.It was just a lot of people's (Star Wars fans) introduction to RPGs, especially the XBox crowd (where it originated)
>>729179616Yeah, the writing is a big flaw of KOTOR 1, though I suspect it was done partly intentionally. Still doesn't excuse how clumsy it was, as well as the complete lack of stat checks in dialogue. I think that is also the massive difference between the games. The other actually feels like a role-playing game.
>>729180483Nobody cares about "canon female exile". The game was marketed with a male character, as well as Handmaiden being a male only companion. Besides, the "canon" was decided after the game. Most people played as Jedi Jesus, or just as male Exile.
>>729182798It’s unsatisfying because everything about Malachor is rushed and weird. The ending of the game is abrupt because of it and I felt like the journey I made felt incomplete. It’s also a very melancholic ending but that’s on theme with the rest of the game. https://youtu.be/__gLIyeQYDU?si=BKlc0vS-ZWJZvebh
>>729179496If becoming more Reddit and normie is an improvement then you’re right.
>>729167414TIME TO RUMBLE
RUNDA DE KAMBUNGA
>>729171643they do you retardunless you love games where you can auto battle through every combat and never lose
>>729183445MUCHA SHAKA PAKA
NIGGA IM HUNGRY
>>729182564too bad the art style and writing are trash
>>729182564Kek, I have seen that. Maybe one day I’ll play it. Probably not though. But if I did it’d her path for sure.
>level 20 cap>speccing into dexterity during the early game fucks you over when you become a JediAdding the Weapon Finesse feats from KotOR2 would really spice up the build variety. I'm surprised no one ever managed to make a mod for it
>>729168395Fuck off Carth
>>729167414>>729168395Who would win?
>>729184434A challenger approaches
>>729169315Right? That moment caught me by surprise when I revisited Kashyyyk. Being able to mow them down felt so satisfying. Agreed on the Jedi/Sith power fantasy. Though I do prefer KOTOR' II's approach on being a Sith. I felt like it was a gradual corruption of my Exile (and myself) as opposed to constant moustache twirling evil responses out the box like KOTOR 1. I actually felt "seduced" by the dark side because of the attack bonuses and prestige (Sith Marauder) - with asshole responses and murdering people becoming second nature by the time the corruption was visible on Exile. Even felt some measure of guilt for the things I did, but pragmatically decided it was necessary for power. Pulled myself out the dark side after I locked in the prestige, but still got dark side points regularly since I'm not a goodie two shoes either.
>>729184798>female
>>729167368Not sure about perfection but it's a masterpiece for sure.
>>729184997>He wants to stare at another man all day instead of a cute girl.Yes.
>>729185716>Not having Visas lust over youYour faggotry is so massive it left an echo in the Force.
>>729167368>turn based combat>magic chuuni samurai >only one choice matters >tsundere>14 year old girl>catgirlThis is a JRPG
>>729184798>with asshole responses and murdering people becoming second natureReally? The thing I enjoyed about the Sith runs was Kreia telling me that being a violent nigger isn't a mark of true power. So instead of the pointless edge of Kotor 1 you can be a completely different kind of Sith.
>>729186701inb4 SWTOR a shit but this is why the light side with stories in that game are fun. You’re pro-Empire instead of just a mad man going around killing everyone and by being calm and rational you make people on edge. Jedi are freaking out because you’re not attacking them, and they want you to but won’t make the first move for example. Edgy Sith Lords aren’t fun. Sith Lords who are schemers with a plan and a vision are.
>>729186935*light side sith stories
>>729167414what was his problem?
>>729187080space incel
>>729186494I'd rather lust after my Exile.>>729186701You're referring to what Kreia tells you after you tell the beggar on Nar Shaddaa to fuck off or you'll kill him, yes? I actually agreed with her that it was "pointless" (because I was ultimately doing it to amass dark side points) and felt similarly. Thus the "guilt" I mentioned earlier. But again, I also didn't think twice about telling the beggar to fuck off because the Sith persona was starting to bleed into my mental state. Kreia told me practice acts of kindness. Which I did - in the form of saving that young girl from being sold into slavery. And immediately received a tongue lashing for being good.I did not remain "Sith" long enough to see how the full game would play out under Kreia's guidance. I just dipped my toes in long enough for the prestige and moderately distanced myself once goal was reached. May do it on a 2nd run.
>>729187080Feels guilty about all the murder
>>729184584Nobody gets this guy because nobody is gay enough to play as female Exile.Who wouldn't want to be Jedi Jesus?
>>729167368My biggest problem with KOTOR 1 is that the player's dialogue options make him sound like a retarded child.
>>729184584I really like that all his cutscenes on the Ebon Hawk are basically a horror movie as Kreia messes with him
>>729184798>>729185716>xemuWhy?
>>729189605Because I played the original Kotor 1 on Xbox and wanted that exact UI and control scheme in Kotor 2. PC's native gamepad support did not offer this and I found it to be shit. And since the Xbox ISO can be patched with TSLRCM, there was no reason not to.
>>729167858Her brother is a massive piece of shit and I hate the fact that I've known people IRL exactly like that.
>>729189982I'll be her onii-chan.
>>729183859to be fair the sith warrior story where you get her is pretty good at least
>>729189891That's fine... but your image is stretched
>>729190182I was originally playing 4:3, but got too used to seeing it in full screen while trying it out on PC. Tried that to emulate the look. You get used to it.
>>729186935Light side Sith Warrior is honestly one of the most interesting Star Wars stories of the past twenty years. It’s a ton of fun getting the drop on people who expect you to be a raving maniac. The focus on codes of honor and martial discipline also reminds me a lot of the old lore on Khornates in Warhammer Fantasy, where there was more to their shtick than just maim, kill, burn.
>>729167745if uncslop is supposed to be a criticism why do people keep using it to describe some of the best games of all time?
>>729171846b-but i need the exp
>>729171846Taris is a pain in the ass because you have to go out of your way to get all the xp by you're not allowed to level because it would waste Jedi levels.
>>729190879Saving level ups for Dantooine is a meme
>>729167368Isn’t this getting a remake? Where is it?
>>729191720I wouldn't count on seeing it in your lifetime.
>>729191720Saber is working on a Space Marine-style model for Revan.
