>Indie game awardsIt's was just marketing from Indie game awards, as no one knew they existed a week ago.
>>729168314Yes, but only because it isn't an indie game
>Awards matterlmao since when? This year was so shit for games literally nothing should have won any awards.
>>729168314It should have been disqualified from every single indie award in any game show because it's not an indie game.>Has a publisher>Had 10M+ in funding>Used AI, which most people hate>Is a unity store asset flip, a polished asset flip, but still an asset flip>Devs all had previous experience with the industry>Their publisher had more of their games shown at the VGAs than any other publisher
>>729168725>Devs all had previous experience with the industryIndie game does not mean "This is the first time we're working on a game".
>>729168314It barely qualified as indie to begin with, but I want to have sex with Lune, so I'm conflicted.
>>729168806No, of couse not. But indie does mean 'independent', and having a publisher and a 10m+ AAA budget means you aren't, gasp, an indie developer or indie studio anymore. No one says E33 isn't a good game. But it's not an INDIE game.
>>729168451This and who cares what some trannies think?
>>729168314No because it wasn't a rule against what they were "DQ'd" for in the first place.
>>729168314made for BWC
>>729168725>Used AI, which most people hateCitation needed.>inb4 jeetIf anything using AI is more useful for indie devs because they gain more from the productivity increase or supplementing areas where the team or solo dev lack talent.I understand the arguments about AI, but I don't think it has any bearing on what makes a game "indie".
yes they used ai to make the entire game
>>729168314Yes of course
>>729169085>tell nominees that the game can't have used generative AI in it's development>make them all certify that they did not use AI in their games>lie about using AI in their game>make press statements saying you've used AI in your game>is disqualified for using AI in their games and awards removed>"REEEEEEEEEE HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEE? THERE WEREN'T RULES ABOUT AI USAGE, EVEN THOUGH LITERALLY EVERY OTHER NOMINEE AND WINNER COULD CONFIRM THE EXACT SAME AI AGREEMENT REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"But most importantly,>has a publisher and a 10M+ budget>is not an indie game>>729169459nigger, what? they've admitted it multiple times. /v/ has been shitting on E33 since the game awards posting the asset flips and AI posters. Google it and you'll find about 500 different articles or plebbit posts.
>>729168989The publisher is made up of smaller studios pooling together and funding the other & having a budget of millions disqualifies games like cuphead from being "indie"
>>729169615This nigger is a gaslighting tranny
>>729168314I dont remember lune's tits being that good
>>729169615>lie about using AI in their gameThey can't lie about what they were open about using in since July.
>>729168314No and Lune owes me sex.
>>729168725>>Used AIevery indie game will use AI from now on
>>729169080why is this a gif
Expedition 33 never deserved any award.
>>729169632>The publisher is made up of-Nope, you gotta stop after 'The publisher'. That's the most important bit, and what literally defines an indie game or not. Self published? You're indie. Have a publisher? Not indie.
>>729169814Smaller filesize
>>729169765Gustav...
>>729169615I meant that I needed a citation showing "most people hate" AI. I'm not denying that they used it, I'm saying that it's not a big deal to most people.While I'm not enthused about the deluge of slop it enables, E33 is proof that you can use AI AND make something good.AI is a genie that isn't going back in the bottle, so you're better off adapting to that fact and praising where it is used well, rather than complaining if it gets used at all. If the end product is good, the means to create it matter little. Call me Indian or Jewish if you want. It's all just cope and seethe at the end of the day.
>>729168314i don't remember her cleavage being this appealing
>>729170232They only used AI as far just being temp placeholders for some textures on a lamppost. It's no different from when filmmakers would insert existing music during editing as temporary placeholders to communicate the director's vision to the composer.
>>729168725>publisherBalatro has a publisher. Devolver games are still seen as indie. If a youtuber like Dunkey can LARP as a publisher then having one doesn't mean shit unless it's something in the ballpark of Nexon.>10m+ fundingHollow Knight sold a gorillion and let them fuck around for 7 years for the sequel. Hades sold a million.
>>729168314Yes it's not indie plus they didn't disclose the AI use so they should have gotten booted from most awards if we're being honest.
>>729170509It's a classic case of ever shifting goalposts with these fags, just like they can't define what a woman is. Everything is subjective, everything will be how they like it or it gets removed
>>729170754Why are you always lying
>>729170509*Hades sold 10m
>>729170754the AI usage was old news
>>729169959>Nope, you gotta stop after 'The publisher'.So Bastion isn't indie anymore because they had warner bros as their publisher?
>>729168725>Used AI, which most people hateYou are a troon that is terminally online in small social bubbles. You've got no fucking clue, dude.
>>729168725>which most people hate
>>729168725>>Used AI, which most people hate>>Is a unity store asset flip, a polished asset flip, but still an asset flip>>Devs all had previous experience with the industryNot a fan of AI or asset flips either, but none of these are relevant to if a game is indie or not. The funding and arguably having a publisher are the only ones that matter.>>729170509Personally I draw the line on if the publisher investing money up front to develop the game or is only taking a cut of the games profits in exchange for (allegedly) marketing the already finished game. Which still doesnt fit with the literal definition of "Indie" but the term always sucked ass and was just meant to mean "small janky cheaper game made by a one guy or a very small team of people making no money off during development it and hoping the profits afterwards justify it (or are actually doing it just for the love of it)". Frankly I dont know how something like silksong (or minecraft post success) properly fits. They are too rich to be indie, but I dont know, I guess they grandfathered in on the grounds that their money is from an indie game?
>>729169615>nigger, what? they've admitted it multiple times. /v/ has been shitting on E33 since the game awards posting the asset flips and AI posters.and those 500 posts all show the same 2 fucking textures, because that was an isolated case of placeholders being overlooked. Retard. There wasn't suppposed to be anything AI generated in the release build.
>>729168725>>Is a unity store asset flip, a polished asset flip, but still an asset flipunreal*And what are those assets? Some traversal animations that work perfectly, are they supposed to reinvent the wheel for the same result? Or models of sheeps and squirrels? those are literally nothing. Not to mention The clair obscur team has also been releasing assets on the store. For an ambitious AA game with such a small team, you use the tools available, or you're a complete retard.
>>729168314Yes
