>Thanks for siding with our rebellion, Dragonborn>Btw, we are literal nazis, surprise lol
>>729171157Based
>>729171157>ulfric stormcloak>doesnt use lightning cloak spell
how. they literally aren't>fighting a war against thalmor death squads kidnapping and torturing people to death >fighting against a fallen, corrupted empire in league with the thalmor>they even let dark elves live inside the walls of their capital city, allow them to own property and so on
>>729171157>literal Nazis that allow lizard people, darkie elf slavers and tribes of Orcs infest his lands>also dick rides a foreign cultures god instead of adhering to the old Nordic faithUlfric was basically a xenophilic liberal.
>>729171368Holy shit...... is Todd a hack?
>>729171157I actually went Stormcloak on my female Redguard playthrough because Redguards know how it is to have to fight for a homeland that the empire has abandoned.
>>729171157Ulfric wasn't trying to purge skyrim of all non-nords, he just wanted the Thalmor out and didn't like the Imperial's method of appeasement.
>Excellent, thank you for letting me join with likeminded individuals
>>729171157That's why I always get along with the Stormcloaks, even when I swear to myself that I'll try the Imperials for the first time in this playthrough.
>>729171503>in league with the thalmorFunny how this 'in league' business was actually the Empire not adhering to the Talos ban until Ulfric Stormcloak literally blew the whistle on the issue in Markath, forcing the Thalmor's hand.
>>729171157Why would a... LIZARD... join the fight for freedom of skyrim?
>>729171202fpbp
>>729172189Because imagine the sheer Dunmer seethe once said lizard gets more respect from the local Nords than their sorry asses.
>>729171157FUCK DARKIES
everyone in the elder scrolls is racist you fucking tourist
>>729171157They aren't even nazis since they're cool with other races living with them. Ulfric has an affair with a certain yellow elf lady. I'd say the Thalmor are Mossad as they're basically more secretive just as evil as the nazis since they're always behind the curtains
>>729173241BASED!Skyrims for the NORDS.
REACH IS FOR THE FORESWORN UP THE RA
>>729171917 Welcome to the Loyal Sons of Skyrim™ circlejerk. Your complimentary bear helmet and mead ration will be issued shortly. Please refrain from shouting “Talos preserve us” every five minutes unless in combat or extremely drunk.
>>729171705>SKYRIM IS FOR THE NORDS!huh wonder what they meant by that.
>>729172167>Giant statue of Talos in the middle of a trade hub >Even has some dickhole preaching his glories day in and out at the top of his lungs to anyone that passes by>No one comments on or caresStormcloaks are fucking retards
>>729174579Even Elisif gives zero shits about Talos and even asks you a favor to deliver Torygg's horn to a giant alter of Talos.
>>729173241This is the funniest character in the game. Get to windhelm at night and he's just alone outside the tavern being drunk as fuck, telling me he's racist
I wish someone saved those 'Ulfric Stormcloak is a failure of a human being' screencaps, listing all of his crimes against humanity (while helping the Thalmor).
>>729171503lets not pretend like the dark elves in the capital are well-treated
>>729171157>be stormcuck>claims the nords can beat the dominion alone>can't even defeat tullius and got his ass captured by tullius at the start of the gameI don't side with the stormcucks because the very premise of their faction is flawed.
>>729175042the fact that they are allowed to live inside the walls and own land (hlaalu farmstead) run shops etc proves they are fine. In fact, it shows how naive ulfrick is. The New Gnisis Cornerclub in the gray quarter has imperial armor in the bedroom upstairs ffs. Rolff was right.
>>729171503>Fight against the Thalmor>Keep their embassy aroundForsworn wouldn't allow this shit
>>729174934It's funny because thats kinda what happened to hitler, all of his effort just made ((((them)))) win dis is annuduh shoah
>>729175752the embassy is up on a mountain next to solitude, not exactly stormcloak territory. Its also an embassy, not a stronghold like their little torture castle on the coast
>Dark Elves have to live in the shitty part of the city>It's the shitty part of the city because that's where all the Dark Elves live
>>729175042What're you expecting, a five star hotel for every Dunmer for 200 years?If they can't earn their place in that amount of time with their lifespan, they deserve what they have.
>>729174370yeah yeah now where's my dark elf wife
>>729171157Actually the Skyrim Civil War was about nord states rights
>>729175042There is a dunmer that owns a giant farm and has a nord worker right outside the city, a altmer merchant who has a stall full of valuables and gets regular businesses, etc. the Dunmer living in the grey quarter are scum with a giant chip on their shoulder who could fuck off back to Morrowind or Solstime anytime they feel like it yet they choose to stay in Windhelm and endlessly complain that they are not being given favorable treatment from a Nord King who is in the middle of war with he empire. It's also hinted at that half of the reason the Argonians are no allowed inside the walls is because there would be an instant race war between them and the elves who just sit in their slum seething all day. If Ulfric were half as cruel as people pretended and a more pragmatic King he would have kicked them all out at the first sign of trouble.
It's funny how Bethesda's incompetence creates perceived depth
>>729174758You forgot to mention the part where a Thalmor deathsquad is waiting to ambush and kill anyone who shows up at that talos altar
>>729176305>"We will fight to our last to remove the Thalmor from our lands!">"Actually removing the Thalmor Embassy would be a very poor political move and we can't justify diverting resources from the Khajit Homeowner Assistance Program at this time."
>>729171157>>Btw, we are literal nazis, surprise lolExcellent.
>>729171157Release the Thalmor files
>>729171157The writers really did bait the retards with the Civil War storyline, you niggers will keep yapping about this for another 15 years.
>>729171503Cool it with the antisemitism.
>>729171157Ulfric Stormcuck, the true Short King.
>>729171503you literally just described nazis
>rebellion is actually full of fascists and psychos Many such cases! It's not like Star Wars
>>729174248>tfw ambushing stormcuck caravans, (((imperial))) caravans, and any other caravans with my forsworn comrades>get to fuck cute hagravens after
>>729175042The dunmer are there to become Nord wives.
>>729171157Literally the ONLY reason the stormcloaks get hate is because they’re blonde haired blue eyed white guys. If they were redguards nobody would give a fuck about their xenophobia.The ONE thing that makes a sovereign nation is the ability to create and enforce its own laws. If another nation is enforcing their laws on you and doing fucking police actions in your nation, that makes you a puppet state. Even fucking tiny ass Serbia on the eve of WW1 accepted all of Austria’s demands EXCEPT the demand that they were able to act as police within Serbia because that literally just would’ve made them a puppet state of Austria. The Mede Empire is a fucking PUPPET state of the dominion with piss elf nazis enforcing THEIR LAWS on it and snatching people off the streets for worshipping Talos. There’s literally no way Ulfric’s rebellion isn’t justified in the face of that shit, even if he was the biggest khajiit-argonian-Dunmer hater in all of Nirn. Let me reiterate again: if the nords were black or brown, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation because nobody would give a fuck about their xenophobia.
>>729171157>>Btw, we are literal nazis, surprise lofuckin sweet
>>729171503Why does your game look like fucking Daggerfall?
>>729179716Milk drinker
>>729180813I hate stormcloacks because they are retarded, I can excuse racism but being retarded.Ulfric is Thalmor asset, his rebelion is supposed to defeat Thalmor but they can't even defeat locally recruited imperial legion and are in stalemate with legion that got no help from empire, untill demi god joins them, Ulfric is captured by Tulius at start of the game and is only saved by dragon ex machina.Only good reason to side with Ulfric is if you arre pro Thalmor because stormcloacks are their puppets. Also it was Ulfric in firstplace who pointed Thalmor eyes toward worship of Talos in Skyrim.
>>729171157im already on your side bro you dont have to sell me on it
>>729175042>allow them to live in a safe, clean city>their section immediately turns into a slum as soon as they move inWhat did Todd mean by this?
>>729182226>Safe, clean city in Nordville is still an absolute shithole
>>729180813>nobody would give a fuck about their xenophobiaWrong. Imagine if it was a Nord dominion trying to take over the Redguard regions and trying to replace their customs with Nord approved onesYou would've seen 15 years of screeching that you're enabling nazists to have a power fantasy of oppressing minorities and everyone who didn't side with the Redguards should be erased from existence.
>>729182226There is even an altmer who says the dunmer are just whining about racism because they don't want to fix the problems they cause for themselves. Unironically they might not have been able to get away with that if Skyrim came out a few years later.
>>729181570He's only an asset for as long as he keeps the war going, if he wins he's no longer really an asset.
>>729181570Good goy siding with the winning faction and fucking everyone else over just to live another day
What is stopping the empire from just surrendering the civil war and granting Skyrim independence? It would free them from any obligation to enforce the treaty in Skyrim so Talos worship would be free to continue unless the Thalmor sailed all the way around Tamriel and enforced it by themselves. An independent Skyrim would definitely side with the empire over the aldmeri dominion and probably even rejoin as soon as Talos worship was legal again.
>>729173241>Considers you a friend even after you beat his ass and despite having no positive interactions with you
I side with the Empire because I need to avenge the slaughter of my Reachman brotherst. Breton
>>729171157Keyed.
>>729182468Then why after war is won there is still Thalmor embassy? Oh yes because his handlers demands it.Ulfric is fucking retard and Thalmor asset.>>729182842Skyrim is province of the Empire, allowing single province just leave without fighting would mean that other provinces would also decide to leave and Empire is no more. Besides it's not loke Empire is doing much to win this war, they send single general to recruit locals and they almost won, but then dragon ex machina happened and ulfric was free again.
>>729183385>Then why after war is won there is still Thalmor embassy?The real answer is because Bethesda is lazy.
>>729182842They would be abandoning their Skyrim allies who called on them for aid. It's not a Stormcloak revolution as much as it really is a Skyrim civil war.
>>729171503>fighting a war against thalmor death squads kidnapping and torturing people to deathNazis also fought against that, when they invaded the Soviet Union (Thalmor Empire). Their allies, the Estonians, had half of their male population kidnapped and tortured in Siberia for the crime of being Human (Nords).>fighting against a fallen, corrupted empire in league with the thalmorThe Nazis literally fought a fallen, corrupted British Empire.>they even let dark elves live inside the walls of their capital city, allow them to own property and so onNazis also allowed Jews to continue to operate their businesses and live peacefully in Germany. Goebbels fucked this all up in Kristallnacht, which was NOT approved by Hitler or any other Nazi leaders, who thought Goebbels lost his fucking mind. Hitler to save face owned up to it afterwards, because by that point everyone already hated him. (it only took a single event, where Jews suffered for real for once in Germany for everyone to turn Anti-German and Anti-Nazi, that's how powerful Jews were in relation to Germans internationally)>>729171543>literal Nazis that allow lizard people, darkie elf slavers and tribes of Orcs infest his landsHe uses Argonians as cheap labor and doesn't give them citizen rights. Same with the Dark Elves. They don't have the rights of a citizens. Orcs are random monsters. Might as well blame Ulfric for allowing Falmer to infest Skyrim.t. actually history-knower
>>729183673Thank you for sharing such knowledge, queen
>>729181570Th entire ass empire is a fucking legal organ of the Dominion. It’s little more independent than Earth in Half Life 2. That’s way worse than being an “asset.”Imagine if EU police forces were granted access to the US to enforce their hate speech laws on US citizens. That’s literally the empire in Skyrim.
>>729184220Thalmor's religious law became Empire's law when Empire lost war. Thalmor isn't enforcing their law they are enforcing empire's law that Empire itself can't be bothered to enforce because it was forced upon them during peace treaty.Ulfric is thalmor asset who's sole puprose is weakening the Empire so it can't fight back later to revert thalmor's religious bullshit. It's Ulfric who caused thalmor to notice talos worship in skyrim in first place and now he is causing civil war weakening the Empire so it won't be able to stand up to Thalmor in future.
>>729183385>Skyrim is province of the Empire, allowing single province just leave without fighting would mean that other provinces would also decide to leave and Empire is no moreThe Empire is ALREADY over retarded nigga. Some random bandit king is sitting on the imperial throne, it effectively lost a war with its greatest rival who is now actively interfering in imperial politics with barely any push back, four or its provinces have already left and one is currently in open rebellion for its explicit independence. The "Empire" by the time of Skyrim is a rump state consisting of a burnt to ash by the Elves Cyrodiil governed by a bunch of pathetic infighting nobles all sucking up the ot Altmer, rebellious Skyrim, and distant and questionably loyal Highrock. It is already OVER man, the spirit of Talos himself already astrally projected his ass down to mundus to tell Neravar how old and down the empire was centuries previously before it even reached its current barely functional state. From what information we are given in game the army sent to Skyrim to deal with Ulfric is a sizable portion of whatever military force has left. Meanwhile every argument in favor or preserving the already barley extant empire inevitably devolves into calling Ulfric an Thalmor plant and stuttering>two more weeks until they fight the Elves again guys!
>>729171157that's fine.
>>729173241doz filty greyskins
>>729173241as an old guy I feel bad for training sneak using daggers on him during the night. now that I realize he's kinda correct
>>729174248forsworn not realizing their leader is a for profit sellout that's a slave to hagravens.
>>729171157>>Btw, we are literal nazis, surprise lolbased?
>>729183673Yeah, everyone knows that Hitler was a thalmor plant and that his goal was to rob the german people blind through the false pretenses of a war, funny how that works, that he had pushed the economic power of Germany to its maximum limit before dipping out. Not to mention that he "killed" himself before Berlin fell.Truly, there are no heroes in history.
>>729171157>being fed up with uppity ungrateful migrants = nazism
>>729189005He did work for the German military as a spy, that is correct. That doesn't make him a Thalmor plant though.