what happened between them and Hasbro?
>>729175070They had to interact with WotC
Hasbro said "please we'll pay you more"and Larian said "nah you were just a temp fundraiser"
Hasbro wanted as much gay shit as possibleLarian wanted as little gay shit as possible
>>729175292Odd they put human women fucking lizards in the trailer for their new game then. Seems like some bizarre faggot cuck shit to me.Liggers tongue my anus.
>>729175070Nobody knows for sure, all you're going to see here is speculation and something some faggot saw in green and started repeating. The only known data points are that Wizards laid off everyone Larian was working with and Swen was mad enough about it to bring it up in an awards speech. I think we can reasonably speculate also that WOTC exerted a level of control in game design that Larian didn't like, e.g. we know the 'True Strike' cantrip was left as a retarded piece of shit specifically because WOTC required full 5E compliance.
>>729175362Clearly that wasn't gay shit, you're just jewish.
>>729175292more like larian wanted as much gay shit as possible and hasbro was mad that they werent putting up their end of the bargain
>>729175070>sell 50m copies >don't wanna ez cash in on an expansion what is their damn problem?
Hasbro fired every single person that collaborated with larian.
>>729175508They had to work with hasbro, and hasbro infringed on Larian's vision. Why do you think there's no lizard companion with multiple sex scenes?
>>729175456Dunno man.When I played BG3 it seemed pretty apparent at some point woke shit was forced in.>act 1 and 2>there is some lgbt stuff but mostly a result of player choice, pretty rare otherwise>act 3>every 2nd male npc references their husband, male companions you've ignored for the entire game start trying to force themselves on youIt was pretty glaring.
They tried to steal the D&D license from hasbro. Hasbro turned around and slapped when with a request for license fees.In the end, the game flopped (cancelled content/sequel plans) and Tencent had to step in and pay off the license fees. They now send shills like OP here to shill, desperate for any sales after botting and shilling costs.They also can't touch the d&d ip ever again because the game was revealed to be another chinese scam. Embarrassing.
>>729175070WotC is actually insufferable and from what we could speculate, Larian had a huge issue with the layoffs and WotC meddling during the development.It tracks because WotC is obnoxiously satanic with how they treat human beings.
>>729175508wotc is awful to work withsee: they still haven't found a studio willing to do bg4 even tho they started shopping it around almost immediately after larian told them to fuck off
>>729175687dnd has always been a vehicle for that kinda shit, if anything larian toned it down (until it goes off the fucking rails in act 3)
>>729175893Lol really, BG4 still isn't even in pre-development?
>>729176247Read >>729175717
>see: they still haven't found a studio willing to do bg4 even tho they started shopping it around almost immediately after larian told them to fuck offThis.There's no way nobody wanted to cash in on the Baldur's Gate franchise.
>>729176247nope, still no studio attached
>>729175687So we’re just going to pretend the whole, “W-why did you guys make so many white male warriors? There are so many diversity options, guys!” meltdown didn’t happen, huh? Why are retards still trying to convince everyone that Larian’s glorified WEG isn’t woke?
>>729176382>There's no way nobody wanted to cash in on the Baldur's Gate franchise.Baldur's Gate is a niche franchise. BG3 was botted.
>>729175070>what happened between them and Hasbro?I'm pretty sure Hasbro wanted the game to be even more faggier, trannier, and gayer in both the literal and figurative sense, and the proof is in the fact that during the Beta phase, there was no THEY/THEMs, no overt gayness, Wyll had more character as in he was evil and a coward who was hiding under a fake moniker "The Blades of Frontier" until they just made him into the most boring le monotone hero just because he was Black, no genitals or the cringe genital swapping, and more hamfisted diarrhea.In a sense, I am with Larian. Make the game and cut all ties with these faggots.
>>729175717>steal the licensewhat is this retarded schizoshit>muh tencent!!!oh, it's dragonirian
>>729175070>>729175197All they did was fire the guy they knew who helped them get the DnD trademark to work with instead of promoting him, as well as try to push their gay shit instead of Larian's gay shit. So Larian just told them to fuck off permanently iirc.
>I'm pretty sureSorry, postbot. The truth is here: >>729175717Larian is factually 30% owned by Chinahttps://ie.globaldatabase.com/company/larian-group-holdings-limited
>>729176442>meltdownThey wanted people to stress test their new character creator and people went with the default human and Larian expressed disappointment at the fact. Only one having a meltdown is the anti larian shill on /v/.
>>729176557hi chang. these threads are hitting post limit because you are using chat bots to make posts for the steam sale shilling.
>729176380No I don't think I will, schizo.
>>729175687You talk like Divinity OS 2 wasn't "woke"There isn't even a single white male origin character
>>729176701there also isnt a single black character in the game either
>>729175717this
>>729176812
>>729176380Ok, I read it and it was schizo babble.What now?Still didn't get over Swen taunting you for making a human male fighter?
>>729175717Confirmed. Go woke go broke.Imagine losing baldurs gate over a Chinese botfarm scandal lol
>>729176247retards keep trying to say that Corrinne Busche thing is BG4 but that's some other garbage they are making with their small in-house companyas of late August they said they want a big studio and still haven't gotten one to bite despite offering to throw infinity money at it
>>729175292I hate that I have to wait another 5 years before you people are proven wrong
>>729175717>>729176380>>729176595>>729176663>people try to have a real discussion over Hasbro + WotC and Larians partnership with BG3 and it always gets ruined by this schizo samefagging and spamming in every related thread despite this actually being a interesting industry discussion
>The zigger schizo is still losing his shit over BG3Divinity will usher a new rectal apocalypse for this board, the likes of which have not been seen since the smug ursus.
>>729176701do you think Ifan is supposed to be arab or something just bc he has a weird name
>>729177079>a real discussionThese threads always slide until there's a steam sale. And then you literal paid shills show up and turn postbots on, spouting schizo nonsense about how woke actually sells "just because" and the proven china links aren't real.You have been doing this, with the same botscripts, for 3 years now. It is the most obvious thing in the world.
>>729177079>people try to have a real discussion over video game and it gets ruined by some schizo Same old, same old.
>>729176247Who the fuck wants to pick that up so soon? It’ll be a sequel to a big, recent release, whoever does it won’t be able to make it feel like bg3 and they’ll get flak for that
>>729177079Wizards is just a shitty company. Remember that OGL shit?
>>729177079this fucking retard won't do it on gatcha threads, no there real shills are people taking about one of the most popular recent rpgs that came out. Tencent doesn't even have creative control over Larian
>>729177270you spam the same 4 images every time a thread is made about this game take your meds and go outside
>>729176661Anon, it wasn't the "default". Players had to go out of their way to create that white male character. The default human is a black woman with an afro, the same one they coincidentally used as the player character in a trailer AFTER they complained everyone was making white male humans, instead of anything with horns or tails.
>>729177326this botpost for example: keeps kvetching about where china gets exposed.that is not the point of the exposure and never was. swen hid his woke flop behind china and told no one. other chinese scams don't do this. so we expose it and will continue to.seethe tencent. spend as much money on bots as you like.>you spamyou shills spam. you don't know what spam is because you play ignorant to the fact you are the spammers. pic is proof.
>>729175508They dont do expansions. You cant halfass those with 5 year open beta development crowd sourcing. It has to be good upfront and out of the box without excessive iteration.
>>729176247Remember when the AAA industry was kvetching saying they shouldn't be held by BG3's standard?Imagine having to be the studio tasked with developing its sequel If they wanted to develop a BG4 wouldn't it also have to be done in another engine because Larian owns their own in house shit?lmao that's like an 8 year dev cycle if they have to build all those system in a new engine AND to deliver on the same level which most studios wouldn't be able to.
>>729175508why does a 100 hour game need a dlc
>>729175227Because the truth is BG3 needed Larian more than the other way around. I pity whoever is chosen to work on the next game.
> they shouldn't be held by BG3's standard?because it's a tencent soft power scam and they likely spent 500m+ on a flop
>>729177265>Ifan ben-Mezd, the guy whose family were travelling spice traders, isn't supposed to be Arabicit couldn't be more on the nose if his name was Mohammed bin Mohammad
>>729175070hard to say, but wotc is lead by retarded people so take your pick
>>729175227>That'll be $80M dollars please. You said it sold well. Can we see the data?>N-no!>Tencent: PREEESU RET US HAVVU D&D IP!!!>lol no>Tencent: f-f-FiNE we PAY ;_;what cucks. based Hasbro shitting on the chinks
Maybe WOTC realized what sort of content Larian thinks is appropriate for RPGs
>>729177709Mate. How much do you know about WotC?
>>729177709wotc is the most pozzed company on the entire planet anon
>>729177764As much as you Chang. So sad you lost 90 million dollars on your failed takeover bid.
>>729177626yes we get it you clicked on the fandom article
>>729177764>>729177804I know they probably don't want their brand associated with perverts who think buying a little girl's dirty panties is a funny joke.
>>729177709You can buy loli panties in Divinity?
>>729177709WOTC turned Aragorn nigger while keeping Arwen white so he could remain fucking a white woman, turned the southrons into blond haired blue eyed people, and littered Magic with mystery meats with brightly colored hue haired from pink to light green.
>the anti larian shill is still goingIs he being paid by AAA slop devs? They shat themselves when BG3 released and are already shitting themselves knowing Divinity is coming.
>>729177678why would you side with Hasbro?you're a queer fellow
>>729177923yeah that's why they gave them the bg ip after that gamemakes complete sense bro!
>every third post in the thread is the schizo screeching about china and tencent and linking back to his own posts and samefagging incessantlySo boring.
>>729177978Are you trying to pretend that opening fantasy up to Black people is the same as straight up pedo shit in your video game? Are you okay?>>729178045Nobody said they were omnipotent, sometimes you find out later.
>>729178057He's been doing it for 2 years already. This game winning utterly broke his mind and spirit.
>>729178057Then stop spamming the board with propaganda, Wong
>>729175456literally the opposite.hasbro made them hastily shove in more gayshit, which is also buggy and broken as a result.thats why some of the male characters romance flags get tripped just by talking to them normally and asking about them.makes them think you fully rizzed them up and got in their pants.
>>729178057It's a Russian with 500 hours in Elin, 1000 hours in Elden Ring, and 200 hours in BG3 btw
>>729178182Mindbroken.
>>729178182Isn't that you though?You guys have been crying about this because Larian failed your stupid purity test.
>>729178136i'm convinced at this point that it's the same person that was spamming TICK TOCK LARINIGGERS threads all the way back in 2018very similar posting style
>>729177558Because it's still not finished.
>>729178117>is the sameIt's worse.
>"Wow! Did you just say that I was a talented Wizard? Can I stick it in your ass now?" *tries sticking a finger in your ass as he shows you the weave*
>>729178448Gale seems more like a bottom though
>>729175406>e.g. we know the 'True Strike' cantrip was left as a retarded piece of shit specifically because WOTC required full 5E compliance.How do we "know" that? Sounds like speculation as well.There was a lot of Early Access feedback pestering Larian about things being a bit too far from 5e (surfaces used to be much more prevalent earlier on in the EA period more similar to Divinity OS)
>>729178354I thought that was obvious? for some reason he put all his mental fortitude on this game failing and when reality hit it devastated him so badly he actually turned completely schizophrenic and ruined his life over a fucking videogame succeeding.
>>729178448that checks out for a W*zard tho
>off-topic spambots: engaged>shill contract: continues
>>729178117Not that anon but>opening up fantasy to black peopleIs the most jewish language replacement ive heard all month. It was never closed, they already existed in LOTR, and if race swapping is (((opening up))) there's a line about 10 or more races/ethnicities long.
>>729177265>dark skinned>arabic name>hooked noseyes.
>>729178508Yea idk it sounds like bs to me too because they took wild liberties with the 5E adaption in like 100 other places.
>>729178354When you get on a TORtanic boat too early and find that it's not actually gonna sinkA. Shrug and move onB. Devote 5-6+ additional years convincing yourself of secret conspiracies to justify a false belief that the game you expected to fail didn't failThis seems like it should be such an easy choice
>>729178508A lot of the carry over mechanics 1-1 from the game, despite being shit design, was in fact Wizards being gay and requiring the game be at least like 5E. The surface thing was a legitimate issue, the goblin camp was worse than the most extreme DOS2 Larian level and players complained more so that resourceless mechanics like cantrips could combo together with shit like acid splash + firebolt making a mini-fireball. Never mind popping poison gas with a cantrip, or freezing/electrocuting water with a cantrip. It was excessive even if it was fun. They definitely overcorrected though I'll agree on that.
>>729178650It has nothing to do with religion, not sure where you got that. And no, "they exist in some unseen far off corner with no detail" isn't the same thing as having a prominent character front and center who Black people can see themselves in as a way to experience the story and setting on their own terms. Trying to equate a company doing that with what was otherwise a very closed off and restrictive IP with that company being okay with literal pedo fetishstic content in a video game is asinine. "Oh well you know they did this good thing over here so I bet they don't have a problem with this fucking awful thing over there"
>>729178762>A lot of the carry over mechanics 1-1 from the game, despite being shit design, was in fact Wizards being gay and requiring the game be at least like 5E.Again, how do we "know" that? Sounds like speculation.
>>729178847Larian interviews, and the Wizards policy involving video games and licensed projects are that it must use and resemble 5E as much as it can. Which is why despite being a somewhat still popular edition, you can't make licensed products with 3 and 3.5 ed, or 1 and 2. 4 is kind of dead and has been for a long time though.
>>729178819Do you have anything approaching an objective reason why only black people HAVE to have a prominent main character front and center in 70 year old book series (retroactively) and why it HAS to be a replacement of an existing character with the better part of 100 years of characterizations and depictions and not a new original one??
>>729178508no way to know for sure but spells in particular in bg3 are all almost entirely copied directly from the dnd rules. The only changes I can remember is nerfs to some of them like Power Word Kill
>>729178967I never saw any interviews saying that, and I was pretty current as they were happening. There was a lot of talk on how fan feedback was wanting it to adhere more to 5e than Divinity though.Have a link?
>>729179045Nobody said it had to be only Black people, there are several white characters too, you yourself mentioned Arwen. The irony is you're complaining about a crumb of Black representation in fantasy as though it is "all Black" when it isn't, meanwhile the fantasy genre has been noticeably all white for a long time. You're morally inverted.
I just want Larian to hit up Paizo and do a Pathfinder game.Golarion is a much better setting than the Forgotten Realms and needs more games.
>>729179047Hypnotic Pattern was heavily nerfed from PnP
>>729178448this is a believable event for an autistic wizard though. Have you ever complemented or tried being nice to a genuine autist? They take it as a signal that you want to marry them and ramp up uncomfortable flirting talk x1000 immediately.
which is the best bg3 voice actor?
>>729179259I like whoever did the deep feminine player voice
>>729179161>Capitalizing Black but not WhiteShalom Juden
>>729178508To be fair, cantrips causing surfaces was stupidly OP in the early levels. Sure it became a non issue by level 3, but that's still a good few hours.
>>729179259Devora WildeLae'zel mogs
>>729179161Elaborate bait or actual jew?
>>729179259>Recast Wyl>Forget to replace 50% of the old VA's lines when exploring, even years later>Requires a mod to fix since Larian never botheredBeing Wyl is suffering
>>729179259lae'zel one was objectively the best bc she's actually acting
>>729179161You, you, you. I opened my response to you with>not that anon butLiterally the first sentence. It's no wonder youre struggling to make sense of the books - you're illiterate! And you also leaped from LOTR to all of fantasy. >fantasy has been (((noticeably))) white for a long timeBecause white people have been writing it you fucking imbecile! Post 10 fantasy stories written by black people about predominantly white characters. Post 5? Post 3?
>>729176942Sir that is a lizard. It's not even a human being.
>>729179259for me it's a toss up between Gale and Lae'zel. They both had some great range.
>>729175893Larian had pretty special circumstances with BG3, not least including a very long dev cycle because of the pandemic and shit. Cant say I'm surprised other devs are afraid of trying to follow them
>Astarion>Lae'zelDoes the game want you to be evil with those being your two of your first companions?
>>729176442You are referencing something that happened after the game was released which while not completely invalid to point out, is irrelevant.
>>729179393Wyl is a pretty uninteresting character whole only gets saved due to mizora being a hot and petty bitch demon
>>729179181that's another one yeahI can't think of a single one that got buffed which is how you end up with utterly useless spells like True Strike as that anon mentioned.
>>729179569She's not even that hot, if you do her sex scene you'll see that larian literally gave her pussy hair
>>729179525Solasta 2 looks like they heavily upped their budget (likely found it easier to secure funding after BG3 did so well) and is trying to take advantage of the lull between BG3 and the next big budget CRPG.
>>729177974Yep, and use them to make a scroll of favorable wind.
>>729179627>She's not even that hot
>>729179540lae'zel isn't evil she's just a naive petulant child in act 1
>>729179596True Strike is actually buffed from the Pen & Paper version.It isn't good still, but it's buffed.
>>729175292I remember your kind switching between "bg3 is not woke" and "bg3 woke content (despite being a not woke game btw) is only because of hasbro".
>>729179682again, she literally has pussy hair, it's in the game
>>729176663>changIt's just Chan anon. Chan, no G.
>>729179627As opposed to figuratively giving her pussy hair?
>>729179596Spirit Guardians is buffed from tabletop, and it was already a good spell in tabletop.BG3 version lets you do damage from moving INTO the enemy's threatened area as well.Longstrider is buffed by becoming a Ritual.I recall there being a few more, but I haven't played in awhile.
>>729175456bullshit.
>>729179393Why did they recast Wyll anyway? It's not like the new one stands out as being amazing or anything.
>>729179451Black writers have been creating diverse worlds (e.g., N.K. Jemisin's Broken Earth with complex, non-white-centric casts), but why demand reciprocity when white creators have historically gatekept the genre? I would also say that it doesn't matter who actually generates the content, but who consumes it, what does the market reflect - if you're Wizards, you don't want a monochrome cast that cleaves huge potential future audiences away from you just because the author was an old white man in the 1800s. It's a business, it wants to make money, appealing to new fans is how you do that.
>>729179645I liked the first solasta and will be getting the next one too, but they aren't in the same league as BG3
>>729179728wtf what does it do in pnp then? It would be somewhat useful in bg3 if it was a bonus action but it isn't
>>729179596Haste is buffed.It gives a full extra action instead of simply a very specified "special" action.Aid targets more people.Summons don't need concentration, and this is a HUGE buff.
>>729175070>okay that was great but next time can you make it faster and for less money? No? Well we'll outsource it to Korea then
>>729177591Why do chinese backed games mog the industry so hard?
>>7291770545 years for what? Hasbeen and Pedofaggots of the Coast have been financially failing and having layoffs, controversies, and ironically corporate scams to parallel that woke 5e attitude of appealing to retardfaggot skittles squad having teenage sensitivities while pushing 30 and 40 fucking years of age, before Larian even announced BFIII.MTG is doing worse than ever.Nobody wants to play 5e.GI Joe is in the dumps.Surprise surprise, Hasbeen and Pedofaggots of the Coast are so fucking Concord-level retarded, that BG IV will never happen ever again solely because they appealed to the schizoid drugged up looney troon train too hard, and had to mass layoffs even while Larian was developing BGIII, and this probably is the reason the 3rd arc was fucked up. Save your cope for less informed people. Go preach about Mexican Orcs, because that's not racist at all in its own right ayyyyyy.
>>729176442i-i-i-it was because horns and tails!! not because we wanted more black characters! >trailer with a black women as protagonists
>>729179954True Strike lasts until next turn in PnP.It lasts 2 in BG3 (used up when an attack happens I believe).Still bad, but technically buffed since you have an extra turn to use it if something stops you for some reason.
>>729175070Swen made bad deal and they ran off with his money.
Why is there a literal Israeli gaza settler ITT trying to espouse the virtues of having a black Aragorn in-between performing brises on babies with his teeth?
>>729180037The CCP (an entire government) is funding them as part of their soft power strategy. That's why the exact totals are hidden. These games likely cost hundreds of millions of dollars, and sell at a massive loss after bots and shills.
>>729177054>new divinity will totally not be a pamphlet
>>729180103>only china stupid enough to blow tons of cash trying to make you like a communist dictatorshipchecks out. the eu is joining them in that. also makes sense.
>>729175362>furry hands typed this post
>>729179928Why are you changing the topic? Clearly a jew
>>729179738?
>>729180237Are you an LLM? Literally nobody is talking about religion but you, it's like you're stuck.
>>729179715All Githyanki are evil. They're like Drow like that.Githzerai are the good guys who said "hey, maybe attempting slavery and conquest against every other race after we just freed ourselves from slavery to the mind flayers isn't so cool".
>>729180312You don't believe that, you're just mad that nobody buys your arguments about why it is vital and urgent to replace all white characters with blackies. You know why I called you a jew, because you espouse racial tension and ignore the crux of any argument to pivot to blacks being oppressed
Wonder if WOTC or GW are the bigger pain in the dick company to use their ip for a product, both seem really really fucking retarded on how they manage collaborations
>>729180457Nobody said all but you, it's literally one character. It's also not even replacement because you still have every other variation of the character, this is literally one instance. You're so desperate to be oppressed that you make it up.
>>729180504WotC has some really weird people in the exec-level. That entire SRD thing, and the incredibly weird "apology" where they desperately wanted to make it sound like they "won" (language a company shouldn't care about presenting to their customers) just wreaks of business majors who don't actually know anything about the product.
How is it that D&D 5e and Pedos of the Coast, with all their appealing to wokies, troons, feminists, and dykes, is also the most controversy mired edition in history with regards to scams, profiteering schemes, and all the worst sides of corporatism that commies whine and bitch about at the same time?How is it that the rainbow squad and tumblr appeal are packaged alongside backwards compatibility database purge controversies as with the online character sheets, the most ironically racist conjectures and changes trying to pose as progressive, the most cancerous lootbox schemes that make gacha faggots blush, lootbox schemes unironically applied to D&D codecies and accompanying props of all things, and the most cancerous DMCA and Copyright controversy that managed to make Pathfinder devs look good in retrospect?Curious.
>>729177512Any followup studio would just cash out and pull a MvC3 -> MvCI rouse.Bigger name studios that could try to make something good and new would get just as sick of WotC shit as Larin.
>>729179928Which is it? Does it not matter who produces it or are the old white men you pejoratively reference """"gatekeeping the genre""" a problem for you? Why should reciprocity not be expected when reparations are? You're being called jewish by multiple people because youre using classic obfuscatory language to mask or misrepresent your intentions and motivations. That's one author btw, and one that doesnt even fit the parameters set for you. Is the main protagonist of that series - its Aragorn - a white man?
>>729180761I'm pretty sure 2e and Lorraine Williams and their pushing out of Gary Gygax in TSR was a much bigger thing than any current thing.
>>7291807615e with all its "appealing" is the most popular DnD has ever been.Wizards being greedy retards who can't really capitalize on it without shooting themselves in the foot in stupid ways doesn't change that.
>>729180631Didn't read, don't care
>>729181029I believe it's technically the 2nd most popular ever, since D&D's initial release was pretty huge.But biggest release since release of D&D is still pretty damn big.
>>729180926No inconsistency: historical gatekeeping by white creators suppressed diverse voices, so now broadening appeals to consumers makes business sense, reparations or not. Jemisin's Essun? Explicitly coded as Black, in a world where power dynamics flip racial hierarchies. One example? Try Octavia Butler's Patternist series or Samuel Delany's Dhalgren - Black authors centering non-white heroes while whites play supporting roles. Why the fragility over a black Aragorn flipping the script once? Black people exist, and they're allowed into fantasy spaces. You'll have to get over that.
>>729180761>with all their appealing to wokies, troons, feminists, and dykesIt is performative at its core for Wizards, and most of those people don't actually care about the shady stuff as long as the cultural agenda they like is being advanced. You must understand that the leftist will always say that the ends justifies the means in order to "stop fascists" or whatever.
>>729179682>take the effort to give her a human disguise>write in a scene where she interacts with normies>keep that scene even after gutting Wyll with re-writes>never use the fucking human disguiseBaffling.
>>729177485You have spent the last 2 full years stalking /v/ for Larian and BG3 related posts and screeching over a minority stake held by Tencent. You have no idea how investing or partnerships work, and you can't even persuade people to care, because there is no legitimate reason to care.You do this for free, btw.
>>729181289>getting lectured by a (((white))) person about black people existingim black. Aragon isnt. I've haven't been turned away from any fantasy space in the last 40 years. Stop using my people as a battering ram for your political goals, moshe. If you cared about people that look like me being represented, you'd be campaigning for IPs based in black or african culture - not tearing down or rewriting british culture and creating more racial conflict and strife that you dont have to suffer through because you can pretend to be white when it's convenient.
>>729181289I genuinely can't believe you're getting replies with this but maybe everyone involved is just baiting too, leaving me as a hellbound observer surrounded by demons of irony.
leftoids eat each other is what happened
>>729179920Because the character was heavily re-written, far moreso than any other character (besides, debatably, Tav). The original actor was a better fit for the original Wyll.
>>729181758If it's bait, it's very high effort bait.
>>729181612not to got hat route, but you brought it up... righwing is literally "ends justifies the means' in covering up the president and other powerful people in the epstein files (they just either messed up or the people redacting purposefully did it poorly so it could be unredacted, showing he raped a 13 year old and Epstein's suicide letter lamenting that the President was able to get away with it while him and the Olympic gymnast couch get caught by the system)
>>729181814So the right and left act the same and need to be kicked out from entertainment so only centrists make the good stuff, centrists as in people who don't need trigger warnings if they are overgrown adult asses over 20, let alone 30. Pretty agreeable. Bring back sexualization of women to drive off both the troon and feminist left, and the puritan conservatives. That also happens to be what the golden age of gaming was characterized as.
Everyone's talking like WotC has all the money in the world to pay any studio of their liking for a licensed game, but is that even the case? I always knew them as a company that was barely staying afloat most days of the week. Was 5e so successful it turned them around?
>>729179569Is she more present in the game if you play as Wyll?
>>729182252Not a whole lot more, but a bit more.Says stuff how like "good boys" do this or that for her.Wyl seems like he'd be more interesting a character if you play him and play him as becoming corrupted, but other games came out so I haven't finished that playthrough
>>729181814Retarded and irrelevant whataboutism, but correct on the fundies. The battle of political ideologies is about suffocating your enemies, not winning in the marketplace of ideas. The right only understands this for their pre-Trump war crimes and the Epstein files, the left understands this for all things fiscal and cultural. This is why they Wizards doesn't have to appease on all fronts. They can just put a fag character in their game, retcon the native Chultans as "totally not savages" or whatever, and so on, all because it appeals to the audience they want to cultivate and helps propagate the ideas they want other people to believe in. >>729182014The long march through the educational institutions was well underway during the "golden age" of gaming, and the ideas would always drip down accordingly.
>>729178117Fucking faggot, if you want black people in fantasy make a new black character, don't turn one with a preexisting design into a nigger. How is that hard to figure out?
>>729182350That's disappointing.
>>729178448>wizards are gayWow, what a revelation
>>729182437>Retarded and irrelevant whataboutismIt really isn't. The political landscape at large is all-around "ends justifies the means", which is what triggered that back-and-forth.It's very much not a one side thing unfortunately
Hasbro/WotC had a massive cut, Larian didn't earn all that much, and even if they wanted, all the WotC people that helped Larian to make the game were fired, so Larian had little incentive to keep working with them
>>729177995I think he's a Sawyer fanboy, who got buckbroken by DOS2 BTFO of Deadfire. Since then, he's been schizoing around.Reminder that the retard could just request the CRO papers, report Swen to Irish authorities and throw him to prison, if Larian was actually as fraudulent as he claims. He doesn't actually believe this, which is why he doesn't do this.>https://core.cro.ie/e-commerce/company/search/667215
>>729176247>If you are big studio, everyone will give you shit for not being as good as previous game>If you are small studio, WotC will warm your butthole with their dick during the whole production process>You will still have the stigma of "Not Being Larian" so everyone will doubt you from begin with>It's actually hard to live up to BG3's qualityMaking BG4 after BG3's success is suicidal mission.
>>729175070Hasbro, or WotC, being absolute cancer to work with, coupled with the fact that Larian had to pay a 20% royalty (after Steam's cut) to Hasbro for even using the D&D IP. That ended up being well over a hundred million Euros. Doesn't take a genius to realize that the D&D IP wasn't that value adding for Larian, especially since 5E is so retarded, which even Swen acknowledged.
>>729182629Its the newest spin on Godwin's Law, I get it. Its the cool thing to talk about right now, its all over leftist media - that is to say, its all over every media we use to disseminate information, generally speaking. When you get down to it, though, WotC and their loyal leftist customers don't care about being consistent. They care about the social media wins, owning "the chuds," successfully launching massive brands like Critical Role that are yes-men, shit like that. Again, none of this to say that rightists can't or don't do this, but western gaming companies are very image-focused within being on the "correct side" of the culture. It was inexorable that WotC became like this.
>>729184040nuh uh they stopped because they didnt sell any copies ok? they used fake steam keys from china
>>729179259The vampire guy had some great deliveries
>>729184213>i get itit really looks like you don't. you're still walking around blind in one eye, but hoping to regurgitate enough words so no one realizes they don't hold much of substance.
>>729184213No it's not. Leftist media is trying to spin it as all rightwingers.It's being pointed out here that it's a widespread problem covering EVERY body right now.
>>729179259Probably karlach, and I hate that character. Runner up is probably astarion.
>>729179259Astarion, he's got that slightly generic gay voice but he's a pretty solid actor.
>rightoids cucks trying to change the narrative because a woke Chad game sold lmao you love to see it. /pol/sissies absolutely folding
>>729175070they're degenerate freaks and hasbro finally noticed, most likely.
>>729175070Someone actually in the know here. Larian grew to hate dealing with WotC and did not want to continue the partnership. I know Larian said in the press that that's not the reason, but it is. WotC was a nightmare to deal with during the approvals process and actively worked against the project at several key points, both during development and especially during post-release. The relationship went further south because of the firings of the key go-betweens for Larian at WotC. t. my uncle works at Nintendo-tier knower
>>729185772There WERE people they liked working with at WotC, and who were the ones who were simply very supportive and were providing lore assistance.Hasbro fired all of them along with a bunch of other people at the company in mass firings (they used to do it yearly to the point of it being a meme, but seemed to substantially reduce it for a few years). So the WotC people Larian liked working with could no longer be worked with.
>>729175070Huge falling out when Larian refused to add the enchanted wheelchair
>>729185361I like when he pulled me aside to ask me if I insane offering his blood to the drow
>>729184634Yet every discussion that remotely touches politics online this month has always inevitably bent towards the Files. I understand why people appeal to extreme, but, because I'm speaking badly of the left, just saying>words words words wordsdoesn't work.I'm deliberately talking about something maybe actually related to WotC instead because if you needed the Epstein Files to know that rich and powerful people are all scum who commit the most vile crimes and get away with it, you've lost the plot, and there's probably no helping you. If you needed that fact in order to invalidate the points made by your opposition, regardless of being a leftist crying muh trump pictutes or a rightist crying muh billy clinton pictures, then you're ill-equipped.
>>729186897>words words wordsonly relevant part of the post honestly
>>729186897Anon, the original post was talking about sides that take the view of "ends justifying the means".It's good that you're wanting to finally go back to the OP topic instead of your original swerve, but dont' pretend the conversation did not veer into a general left/right dichotomy. It doesn't fool anyone.
>>729186897>you've lost the plotI don't mean to interrupt this VERY IMPORTANT CONVERSATION, but why is this turn of phrase suddenly so popular? Did a zoomer e-celeb start saying it?
>>729187303that's my guess. he's wasting time trying to cover his lack of a point with 20 more words than necessary, like most modern e-celeb influencers.
>>729185772I mean that seems the most obvious to everyone
>>729187710Everyone except the schizo rusnig.
>>729175070Hasbro fired the entire consultation team they'd sent to work with Larian, leaving no filter between the devs and the Wizards of the Coast c-suite. Given that Swen posted a rant about soulless corporate stooges around the time that the partnership officially ended, it's safe to say they didn't get along.
>>729175717Man, you’re still weirdly obsessed eh? This can’t be healthy, my guy.
>>729180946>Lorraine WilliamsThe story about James Cameron meeting with her (at his request) because he wanted to direct a D&D movie with Stan Winston was fucking unbelievable. The first question she asked him was "What are your credentials?"This was after Aliens and Terminator 2.
