The best space 4x game there is.

>>729180579
A ruined game altered by SJW anti whites with non stop bloated and garbage DLCs filled with hours of retarded stuff for you to read and dumbshit restrictions to not let you just go to war and take over worlds.

Don't you need to buy 6 gorillion DLC to make this game good?

>>729180579
like othet anon says, wokey woke af now but the real reason it's ruined is because the mechanics got reworked like 4 times

>>729180737
yes but paradox DLC is very easily pirateable.

random gen galaxies but with static stories and events so if you make the mistake of playing in a huge galaxy with an OP faction you're going to end up getting the majority of the anomalies, dig sites, etc. and realize on your second run that you've already seen the majority of the game's content with having like 50 more races/origins/setups left to play

paradox dlc kikery of the highest order
huge gameplay changes every 6 months that forces you to relearn half the game
otherwise it's a fun game both from a rp perspective and gameplay autism where you can push the numbers into getting bigger and bigger

>>729180579
A mediocre DLC chassis that barely functions and runs like shit because of several retarded decisions they keep trying to bandage but not walk back.

>>729181006
>and realize on your second run that you've already seen the majority of the game's content with having like 50 more races/origins/setups left to play
to be fair, most of the game's content revolves around your empire's setup. i'm not really considering dig sites, anomalies, etc. actual content. they're like events in EU4

>>729180737
Yes, it released a quarter of a full game, went into half a game after 2 years, and with all the 6 gorillions DLC it becomes somewhat of a full game.

Though usually the portrait DLCs/races DLCs aren't needed, they're literally cashgrabs. The other though, yeah.

Reminder they remove every white guy portrait.

>>729180808
>wokey woke af
How so? Last I heard you can play galactic genocidal imperialist and purge every races except elves, which you can keep as sex slaves - sorry, "domestic servitude".

But I haven't played for two whole years.

>>729181443
White people existing in the future is just as unrealistic and immersion breaking as black people in medieval Europe.

>>729180579
Give up any hopes on trying to understand combat

>>729181478
google the new humanoid human art, compared to the old.

>>729181602
it seems intimidating but most paradox combat boils down to rock paper scissors. you just figure out what your primary opponent is flying and you counter them

>>729180579
A boring experience unless you also get the billions of DLC.
Also the game constantly changes every few patches.
By the way, next patch is going to change a lot of things, including economy and fleets.

>>729180579
boring as fuck with no dlc's
get the New Ship Classes mod (NSC)

>>729181602
Just use artillery combat computers and long range weapons, range is factually one of the most important things.

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>>729180579
Crack

>>729180579
I don't like it. It drags on forever and planet management is tedious as fuck.

>>729180727
>A ruined game altered by SJW anti whites
I haven't played in a few years, when the fuck did that happen?

>>729180579
Buying a top end CPU if you want to finish a game

>>729181997
>planet management
Just go play one of the designated tall builds, like Treasure Hunters Virtuality Rogue Servitors.

>>729180579
I don't know.
I haven't played the latest update and they completely change the mechanics each update at random.

>>729181602
the ship autodesign works fine, but sometimes it's worth it to design ships as specific counters for certain enemies, especially if they're stronger than you. it's not that complicated really

>>729181997
>planet management is tedious as fuck.
you don't have to micromanage all of them, though. focus on a couple favorites and let sector governors or vassals handle the rest

>>729182067
>Rogue Servitors
I still remember when RS started the game with a negative economy, which meant you couldn't sustain yourself unless you did some extremely fast decision.

God, this was so shit.

Also I remember the game when we still had 3 FTL travels available.

>>729180579
>>729180737
No. Only buy base game and pirate all the DLC, by using DLC unlocker.
DLC itself is worth it, if what was you question.

>>729180579
You are in for utter shit because they are ruining all my builds.
How will I ever recover without my poor Death Cult and other unity rush civics next update???? I NEED to ascend early if I even want to have a chance to snowball against 25x crisis GA AI!!!
Also look at what they have been doing to my poor honorable knights, and look at what the fuck they are going to do with them next upgade... what did they do to deserve this?? Knights of the Toxic God is a perfectly fair and balanced origin that doesn't deserve all those nerfs *sob sob*.

>>729181663
>>729181853
Sure but what should you fleet look like, all battleship? Battleship and Corvette? Mixed fleet? Ok so you slap long range weapons on your ship but what type of weapon etcetc

>>729182440
>Mixed fleet?
yes. more small ships than big ones

>what type of weapon
either pick one type to specialize in, or design your ship to counter your enemy. do their ships have more armor? shields? choose the counter to that

>>729180579
Pretty good game, I have 600 hours but haven't launched it in a while. Mod community got some cool stuff like gigastructures, but just like in other paradox games the point of the game is RP
>>729182368
>I can't steamroll through galaxy at max difficulty
GA isn't meant to be a default

>>729182440
From the moment you unlock combat computers and missiles use rocket + artillery computer design + afterburners, this will enough to deal with CPU neighbors. For something that actually posses a threat you have to counter their design.

>>729180579
>>729182368
And by "all my builds" I mean all the good to decent builds because anything else is a slog and pure masochism to play.
>>729182067
Guess what's goibng to die next update?????? They are going to kill treasure curators so say bye bye.
>>729182440
You don't make fleets with "mixed ships" unless all the ships in a fleet have the same type of combat computer to avoid unwanted behavior.
Currently (going to change completely next patch), assuming you aren't playing a build that can tech rush (and unlock other ship types before year 30) early game artillery combat computer corvettes with 3x missiles and afterburners are your best choice (which is one of the reasons why basic combat computers is such an important tech).

>>729182440
It doesn't really matter unless it's against a precursor empire or an endgame crisis. It's mostly blob till then. Blob with what you know.

Then take whatever weapons work better against shields for some crisis or precursor empires, or whatever weapons work better against armor for other, or hull. Honestly, the combat isn't that deep. You're not supposed to think too deeply about it - you're supposed to go "nice, I've got the economy to have a 30k blob, now I can fuck that other 30k blob fleet". And at the extreme of your thought, "I should probably put some anti-shield weapons if I want to fuck fuckhuge shield blobs", which isn't rocket science.

The combat is trivial to break, and it's not that deep.

>>729182440
>>729182668
Of course things change after early game, but artillery combat computers and afterburners remain in all future ship designs.
Cruisers with Neutron Launchers to kill Battleships? Artillery combat computers and afterburners.
Battleships with FAE? Artillery combat computers and afterburners.

>>729182440
Choose whatever best fits the culture of your empire. Technocracy? Lasers. Engineers or birds? Missiles. Reptiles or humanlike? Guns.

>>729180727
>dumbshit restrictions to not let you just go to war and take over worlds
so like with most Paradox games it kind of becomes a necessity to stretch out blobbing else like with most other Paradox games you snowball early and before you've even hit midgame you realize your campaign is now just a glorified point and click simulator and it's hard to find a point in continuing now that you can roflstomp every endgame crisis at the same time
their fuckup like many Paradox games is not doing a good job with padding out the downtime between wars to actually make doing things that's not wars fun past your first few runs when you already know the majority of the game's different event storylines

>>729181183
I find that the difference between Stellaris and EU4 events is that EU4's events are much more unique to cultures, idea groups, nations, etc. so even on your 50th playthrough you can still get content you haven't seen yet meanwhile just about any Stellaris faction can do dig sites and anomalies and there's only so many precursors and different L-Gate layouts for example, so after a third of the campaigns vs EU4 you've seen much more of what the game has to offer

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Honestly I have no idea how to play the game outside of tech rushing. I know people set up challenges like "enslave everyone" or "play isolationist" or "liberate everyone". But I don't know how people do things like trade focused empires. You need tech to not fall behind and inevitably you end up snowballing, especially if you have mods that raise the tech level.

Also, synthetic/machine master race.

>>729182962
>difference between EU4 and Stellaris
sure, but I think the difference between Empire A and B in Stellaris is much wider than two countries in EU4, or Victoria 2, or whatever.

>>729183145
>Also, synthetic/machine master race.
You can breed a race of slave catgirls with evolution/dna. With enforced obedience, docility, and supernatural beauty. Your robots aren't worth shit on slave catgirls

>>729183145
I presume you just use your economic dominance to buy tech from everyone else

>>729183145
just lean into a playstyle. you want to be trade focused? play a megacorp, or if you don't wanna do that, just focus a few of your planets around trade. you have a lot of granularity when customizing your empire to facilitate different types of runs. what exactly are you confused about?

>>729182668
>You don't make fleets with "mixed ships" unless all the ships in a fleet have the same type of combat computer to avoid unwanted behavior
So you're telling me I can't have a fleet where the battleships runs artillery to bomb from afar, corvette & frigate to swarm their larger ships, Destroyer for the midrange and cruiser to protect my battleships from enemies?

That could explain a lot

>>729180579
Shitty game that requires like 20 dlcs in order to be playable, you will end up modding it and it will constantly crash on you, also every update will break your old saves.

are phasers or whatever they were called still OP?

>>729183406
> Shitty game that requires like 20 dlcs in order to be playable
Just pirate it, you tourist.

>>729183510
the ones that ignore shields? they're decent, but they hard counter certain enemies who have insane shields but no other protection

>>729183521
Stellaris isn't even worth pirating, starsector and aurora 4x are better than this slop.

>>729181521
>the people that developed most of technology and society totally wouldn't be in the future leading humanity through space era
Pajeet fecaloid feces eater spotted.

>>729182039
>you can't just go to war whenever you like anymore
>all aryan portraits removed
>literally impossible to play as Imperium Of Men like
>tons of retarded lore text added
And other garbage things that took all the fun

>>729180579
It's a decent game to waste time, I have exactly 831 hours of game time.
But as other anons already said, you require additional content to have the best experience possible
So I advise you to pirate those because you might not know what you might like, and what you might not like before playing them. Absolutely under no circumstances buy downloadable content or even the subscription (in fact I have a legitimate base game copy but every else is pirated).
Some people like Grand Archive, Ancient Relics and Nemesis, but I don't like those. And I had to play for multiple hours before having the verdict I don't like them and feel like they are useless (I also don't like Cloud Missiles despite multiple people saying they are one of the best weapons in the game).

>>729183649
that's not fair starsector is better than 99% of games

It's good, but it can get very overwhelming.

I usually struggle to go back to a game after playing once, as catching up on everything is a chore. I's stupid though.

>>729180579
Did they ever fix the end game lag? It was so bad that it ruined the game for me.

>>729184008
The game is shit without mods and installing mods without Steam is ass.

>>729184271
>game is shit without mods
>I need steam to install mods
opinion is WORTHLESS

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>>729183860
>you can't just go to war whenever you like anymore
Elaborate
>literally impossible to play as Imperium Of Men like
Fuck you for making me spend 5 minutes waiting for the game to load so that I can prove you wrong

Every game now is just unity rushing into your ascension then pivoting hard into tech and alloys
I easily dominate the galaxy even on GA every game now
I genuinely almost wish I hadn’t actually learned how to play this game, the AI just can’t keep up if you know what you’re doing

Gigastructures mod is still one of the best mods ever made for any game, ever.

>>729180579
the paradox experience:
>clausewitz engine with a sci-fi skin
>requires 40+ paid dlc to be a full game
>game is about painting a sci-fi map

>>729185267
The birch world is so cool.

>>729184854
Just play on a lower difficulty so you don't have to worry about minmaxing. 25x crisis is fun, but you don't have to do that every time dude

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>Playing fanatic purifiers
>Have to conquer enemy planets to wipe out enemies
>During the purging process some of my dipshit civilians move in, now I have to spend 200 influence to abandon the planet
>The AI colonises every single planet regardless of habitability and then makes them so abysmally dogshit (hmm today I will fill out all 3/3 food districts on a world with 19 mining district slots) that it takes thousands of minerals to stop them from cratering my economy
>Also 900 power of defensive armies on half their planets
>Even on year 150 the titans tech hasn't rolled so I can't take the Colossus Project

hmmm today i think i will be a plant race focused on making the galaxy more green by any means necessary

>>729185827
>During the purging process some of my dipshit civilians move in, now I have to spend 200 influence to abandon the planet
Why not activate migration controls and disable land appropriation?

>>729185827
I remember that planet annexation is always a tense time, because the game will always fuck it up in every manner possible. It's basically 3 months of wrangling the tarded from the AI, always. There is no clean planet annexation, only less stupid than others.

>>729185980
I forgot about the land appropriation, thanks for the reminder. Still, though.

>>729180579
A very fun first game and then a second game where you realize every game is played the same.

>>729183714
He’s saying that white people are getting replaced you retard. It was a joke that went over you’re low iq head.

Remember when this game was supposed to be part of the simulation genre, watching the rise and fall of empires? Now it's just the ultimate blob simulation. Every game is exactly the same. All for the sake of multiplayer balance which they decided to completely break later anyway.

>>729187234
>Multiplayer balance
Wrong. Why people keep saying this shit when people in multiplayer can just make their own rules, like prohibiting certain origins, civics and traits.
In most multiplayer lobbies I play people usually do gentlemen agreements and tell you the rules.
Multiplayer balance is a straw man.

>>729187043

i-it wasnt me
White people will never be replaced you poo eater creature

>>729180579
2fps after midgame

>>729187234
It's not blob simulator anymore it's vassal management sim, it's better to just steal resources from your thralls than to own the space yourself because of empire size penalties.

>>729180579
A game where you manage an economy and a story unfolds. The first time you beat the crises you will have a great time.

>>729184271
The entire thing, DLC's and all are on fitgirl.

>>729187390
>he forgot about the 3 forms of FTL travel

>>729189908
My favorite thing about that era is when they nerfed static defenses, the complained that no one was using static defenses.

Prior to the exclusion zone nerf, I had a setup that ringed a series of long-range stations around a grav-trap station that would fend off enemy fleets regularly, only occasionally requiring the trap station be rebuilt.
Then they also took away the newly recategorized "spinal" weapons. So, now stations were double under-gunned against even an equal value of fleet.

Though, of the new things they fucked up, my favorite is the needless change to pops. I'd prefer the tile system return, but even if it didn't, having the AI constantly reassign population every game tick is insanely stupid. I've had multiple files where I went from massive surpluses in everything to deficits in things as the AI reshuffles my pops every other in-game day.

>>729190235
That only happens if you allow multiple species to exist, which is a mistake, anon.

is xeno compatability still a joke pick that fucks you over by creating 10 million hybrid pop categories

>>729190235
Just use the version you like. Also if you get a nice bottle empire start, static defense is mad OP. You just max out your defense, econ behind it in total safety and break out when the time is right.

>>729180579
You'll need a quantum supercomputer to reasonably finish the game in standard sized map

>>729185370
The maginot world are also pretty cool to build. If only the AI would actually attack them

I have an addiction
an addiction to immediately abandoning the galaxy to hole up and party in the L-Cluster the second it opens up, usually by me rushing it

>Hyperlane Density - Minimum
yup it's Stellaris time

>>729190557
what do you do if the swarm comes out if you rushed it

>>729190749
you die

i wish i had more normal-ish friends to play paradox games with. anyone here not a raging retard and can hold a conversation while we map paint