What Fighting games are you guys playing? Played Melty Blood AA and Touhou Soku for the first time today, got my ass beat...
>>729190096i wish we would get another good MK game like 9 or X, preferably something more straight to the point like 9. I want the era of Injustice slop to end
>>729190096there are no good fighting games rn. Still rocking my bloody roar 2 regretably
>>729190096I've been practicing Zangief in Alpha 3. Finally getting somewhat consistent with 360s, but still learning when I can successfully grab and when I can't. If I throw out an aerial and then try to go for the grab it'll miss but if I just jump in and grab that works fine.
>>729190096any of thr mk mcs fucking mog gran and terry
I like Granblue Versus
>>729190096Went back to Guilty Gear Xrd after giving up on the Mortal Kombat Legacy Kollection. I'm 100% convinced that the MK IP is cursed. Just flop after flop with Mortal Kombat.
>>729190096UNI2
Doing aight in T8. Getting close to 5000 online battles.
>>729192747Yeah but nobody cares about MK
>>7291900963S
>>729192640You can input 360s immediately during the recovery of standing moves. Its called buffering. Dont jump in, youre removing the entire point of a dangerous grab if you telegraph it coming from the air
>>729190096blazblu calamity. man noel is a pretty good rekka
>>729195052I do know that about buffering, as I already do that with Raging Demon with Akuma, and normally I would agree with you but Zangiefs aerials feel degenerate. I'm still practicing buffering them out during my standing moves, but I'll get there.
>>729190096Tekken 8 and Soku.Wish I could play other stuff, but other fighters are barely alive in my region, feels impossible to find games without fighting the same 1 guy over and over again.
>>729195052Nta but you can’t grab them in hitstun can you? So you whiff a normal and hope they fail to punish?
>>729190096Why did they have to dis scorpion like that
GBVS. I want to get into Tekken but everyone I talked to told me Tekken is garbage
>>729195478Everyone knows Sub is the MC
>>729195656how is fighting 2B? she looks annoying. tekken is okay, just be more defensive to punish heat boost
>>729195802I actually haven't really fought her at all so I'm not too sure surprisingly enough. I know people play her but I guess I just get on when they aren't there
Is the new Garou any good
>>729190096Playing +R doing MOM mode and BBCF doing abyss mode. Shits so addicting. Oh and emulating Gundam EXVS2 Overboost too.
>>729190096I have actually really been enjoying MK1 although I am a casual scrub.
Heart of a Viper main.Brain & Hands of a Marisa main.>>729196839If you want Garou with more mechanics stapled to it that let you do flashier combos it's great.
>>729196839yeah. just dont like the system since you can die pretty easily
>>729191648there are loads. they are just on fightcade. >>729190096CVS2. i'm getting pissed at K groove, the guy i'm training with is getting pissed with Roll cancels. nature is healing.
>>729190096Binging all 4 Blazblue games VN story modes.
>>729190096RoA2la reina soon
>>729197502Man I miss making fun of smellee players for not bathing and not playing a real fighting game
>>729190096Why is Sol there? Who let blud think he’s part of the team?
>>729197590I don't think about them at all.
>>729190096Redpill me on Fatal Fury should i try it or pass?
>>729198213Mark/City of the Wolves are cool if you like solid standard 1v1 fighters and enjoy Just Defend as a mechanic. The true good shit is Real Bout 2 though.
>>729198213>>729196839entirely solid
me and my friends want to get into a fighting game togetherwhat are considered the best games of all time?
>>729201120>me and my friends want to get into a fighting game togetheryou're just gonna get shit stomped for months before you get to any where near the level of some sort of competence and fighting each other isn't gonna help you guys get better either.
>>729201230You’re a faggot
>>729201296I accept your concession
>>729198213Give it a go.Now that it's on sale, there's no excuse. It's a demanding game, but it's well worth the time invested.
>>729201486Not that guy but you really are a dumb faggot. You projecting whatever shitter experience you had yourself onto others is not an argument.
>>729190096Cool meme, but Terry isn't the main character.
>>729195802NTA but she's annoying at both a higher and casual level. Her half-screen normal autocombos can be handled with understanding of the game, but her inherent design makes playing against her awful for 70% of the cast, such as her being frustrating to anti-air and her recent buffs improving her defense (auto-parry on backdash) and zoning.
>>729202896He is.
>>729202896True. Iori is
>>729190096I am taking a short break from Granblue to give Tekken 8 and City of the Wolves a go.Both have been fun so far.
>>729201120Depends on how far you want to go. I assume you will primarily play amongst friends and you are all a similar lower end skill level?If you want to, fightcade is always available, though a little obtuse for beginners. Then you can always play with some of the older titles that got rollback, such as the GGAC+R, Xrd, BBCF that are less populated but have room to grow.Anything you're specifically looking for? Any types of interests?
>>729195157Man the balance was ass and the guard break system was stupid but I kind of miss everything else about CT.
>>729195802About 20% as annoying as Lowain.
CotW. Tried Mr. Big and while I was interested in him the most out of the dlc characters, he didn't really do it for me. Joe on the other hand is sick and I'm interested in playing more again. I just hope they have a proper balance patch coming up since it doesn't seem like they've addressed as much as I'd have liked them to.
>>729203435What do you want them to change?
>>729203168We all got drunk and watched the Street Fighter 2 Animated movie which has prompted this
>>729204165At that point, just pick up SF6 on sale, play with whatever control scheme you prefer and mash to fun. I'd recommend other simpler games, but it sounds like it's also mass appeal style as well, something that has grit that a group of friends can fuck around with.You can go look through some of the other options available, such as GBVSR or Strive but the anime of them might push more than pull.
>>729202818you're a seething faggot that won't admit that fighting games take way more time then what they're worth
>>729204513Also not that guy but you gotta be retarded or eternally seething or both
>>729204580>more non-arguments
>>729204513OK retard.
>>729204821>>729204670
I hate these stupid ass fucking videos so much
>>729194189>118 Killer InstinctHell yeah.
>>729190096I tried getting into Vampire Savior because of the EVO announcement but as a marvel hater i couldn't get into it, i went back to 3rd Strike and Garou. I've been grinding Elena a lot
>>729204895Of course I'm not arguing with you, you stupid faggot, you are not actually worth an argument.
>>729205052>I have no argument and i consneed saari redeem your concession
>>729205150If "UHM, ACKSHUALLY fighting games are not fun" is an argument, then "fighting games are very fun" is a counter argument.Stupid faggot.
>>729205238player counts is unironically the counter point to your argument
>>729203497I don't have some biting criticism, but I'd like to see the balance shaken up a bit. At a point I just get tired of playing against Kayns, Hotaru's, Hokutomarus, etc and then watching Kayns, Hotarus, Hokutomarus, etc. It not as fun when like 75% of the roster is just uncommon to rarely used.
>>729205424Fair.I haven't really been playing for long, but so far I have seen -literally- zero (0) Vox players. No B. Jenet either now that I think about it.
>>729190096I'm trying to play Vampire Savior but it's hard because no one is interested in playing with me.
I'm about to resort to writing fanfiction because fighting games won't give me more stories involving fun characters. Some of them might not even be erotic.
>>729195395soku sucks
Kazuya was the MC for one game and then got mogged by his son who hogged most of the series
>want to play Fighting game on PC>PC controls are whacked out>devs just expect you to own a controller>uninstall and never touch it againI hate this>just keymap brohow about make a keyboard layout that's actually not retarded? beat-em-ups can do it why can't pure fighters?
>>729207025Yeah, but what can one do.At least it is a relatively alive game compared to other stuff.
>>729190096I picked fatal fury as my first fighting game and got filtered instantly Dpad combos are insanely hard i barely understand when to block/attackI used to thing I was some high iq hardcore gamer just because i can easily beat action games like ninja gaiden on highest difficulty with ease but now i feel like shitFuck me
>>729207231who do you play
>>729207250Suwako and Komachi.
I feel like Chun-Li in SF6 is going to be one of those characters that seems fun in training mode but just sucks to actually play, which I honestly haven't run into since like...Aegis in P4A maybe? Probably could have picked one or two in BBCF if I actually played that game.They made her standing medium, crouching medium, SBK route just enough easier than SFV to not seem like an inordinate pain in the ass but only just enough I still wonder why they couldn't have taken like 2 more frames off of SBK charge time or added another frame of hit stun somewhere so I wouldn't still find a way to miss it.
>>729207298>suwakcuteSoku is too hard for me and not in a fun way.
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>>729207105>Video game expects you to have some sort of controller in order to play itThe audacity
>>729207370Fighting games with these types of characters?
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>opponent only uses normals to open me up>opponent uses simple strings repeatedly to open me upimpossible...
>>729207354It is a hard game, but I think that's part of why I do still like playing it even if I it's also a kusoge.Just the fact that has a fast gameplay and lots of things to keep track of makes it a lot more fun than stuff like SF, Strive or GBVS. But the current meta kind of sucks.I've been a bit out of it lately though, used to join almost every tournament and now I haven't played any serious one for months, but sometimes I go and play like 90 matches in one go.
>>729207370>>729207384fighting fags really want you to have the least tactile and least fun experience possible
>>729207615>tournament playerJeez. You really do like it a lot. I wish I could find a fighting game I like enough to compete in.
>>729207105Don't beat 'em ups also use dumb default controls?It's almost always WASD for movement (which is fine) and then JKL UI or something weird like that.afaik keyboard is the strongest controller for fightans now (well, technically it is Hitbox, but hitbox just emulates playing on keyboard without the extra buttons).
>>729207812I am having a great experience
>>729207946you can easily rebind the keys on beat em ups while fighting games either have a conniption if you try changing anything or refuse to let you rebind in a way you're comfortable with and fighting fags playing on keyboard/hitbox is cheating anyway
>>729190096>play fighting games every day for ten years>people only now suddenly want to troll these threads incessantlyglad I don't have any emotions invested in this shit anymore
>>729207330do qc to up. so that you get legs if you dont have enough charge
>>729208196meant qcf to up.f
>>729208092You are plain retarded and have zero clue what you are talking about since you can rebind anything to anything. What game did you "play" where you can't rebind shit?
>>729207942>Jeez. You really do like it a lot.Honestly, not sure, kind of? it's a frustrating game from time to time; the real truth is that I actually just like Suwako a lot and just used to try on tourneys to show that...At least I can be happy that I got to a really good ranking worldwide with her and became recognized for playing her at a relatively high level, despite her being considered a low tier.
>>729207946See that's what you believe if you spend too much time on the internet but there is statistically no evidence of such a thing. Just taking SF6 where the most tryharding is going on so nobody can complain about boomer games or whatever, in the 3 years of SF6 at Evo the 20 places in the final bracket have been 7 arcade sticks, 7 Xirboxes, and 6 gamepads with the champions being 2 gamepads and 1 arcade stick. People have been saying this for 10 fucking years and Kawano winning Evo the last year of SFV and Kakeru winning Capcom Cup then having to retire because he can't press buttons anymore are the only major successes I can think of.You've got Tokido autisming out abut how theoretically he can do a certain thing 1 frame faster than the longest engage arcade stick anyone uses and spamming his spastic crouch backwalk or whatever but he's getting unc checked straight out of the bracket anyways.
>>729208092I know some indies have problems with key remapping, but most often than not it works just fine on most games.Usually the problem is that the keys are already binded to player 2, so you have to go to player 2 binds and unbind those, at least that's the one common issue I used to find binding keys sometimes.But like, it's such a small one-time issue that only really happens with a few fighters, shouldn't really stop you from playing.
>>729208565What's your favorite Suwako doujin?
>>729195410if you slow buffer the 360 you can usually tick throw it after a a jab or a short. dash spd is also worth learning
>>729208815My point was more that fighting games are totally fine to play on keyboard / PC and fighting games are now made with those in mind, they're not just controller / arcade stick games anymore.When I say keyboard is the strongest I don't mean it in a huge way where it is going to dethrone a pro who's already used to a different type just because of the advantages it may have, but it does come with some small advantages like being able to switch directions faster, having access to SOCD inputs and slightly easier TKs, and some other stuff.None of that stuff will matter if the other player is just strictly better than you.
>>729209096All of them except the gore ones.
>>729209302I don't see how it's better for TKs at all, overshooting your quarter circle is way simpler than trying to coordinate your thumb with your fingers.I mean just take this sequence, a correct TK should be sd then a space, every time the space is between s and d that's a missed input>sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd s ds ds ds ds ds ds dsd s ds d
>>729208185I blame the youtube/vtuber pipeline, has attracted all sorts of "people" who believe they've played a game if they watch enough of it.
>>729209554The same people who want you to gitgud are the same people who won't even turn on the input delay for training mode.
>>729208489non argument, try rebinding in any arcshit games
>>729192747>defending tranny kombatunironically 41% yourself
How would you teach a completely new people fatal fury?
>>729210186You literally can't. Only japanese and third worlders play it and thats how it will always be
>>729210317I'm a third worlder
>>729210317Japanese don't play it
>>729190096I wanna play soku but the cardgame deckbuilding filtered me
I haven't touched a fighting game in over a month and my life has been better for it
>>729197502la reina is a skip for me. I just want slade or artemis
>>729209415You piano S~D with left hand and piano thumb (for space) into attack on right hand, you can make extremely low to the ground TKs consistently and easy compared to overshooting with an analog or arcade stick where you can get wildly inconsistent heights or frames unless you're really good at it.This can be important if you have finnicky combos with nearly frame / height perfect TKs.At least, that's how I feel it and I'm not even a heavy TK user, if you have the muscle memory to do TKs perfectly on arcade or controller, more power to you though.I specially consider it a lot more useful / easier for chars that have a DP TK input like Baiken rather than a pure 236 9 or 214 7 TK input like Dizzy.
>>729190768mk9 was the last good one.bought it at gamestop for my 360 and played it so much.then x came out with half the characters and everything felt slow and gay. even ran like shit on my xbone.fuck them for taking away smoke
>>729208823>not having good controls is a only a small issue in a genre where having perfect timing and execution is nearly everything
>>729211165I said the issue is that it takes a bit of extra work remapping and only sometimes, not that you have to play with bad controls.
>>729210186Tell him to play the tutorials and then Arcade/EOST mode
>>7292110122147 isn't that bad even, that was like the second thing I learned to do on stick. The Baiken thing is weird but not actually hard, it's just forward+TK and every Baiken I ever saw online in Xrd spammed it on each other no problem.
I'm having fun with CotW but this whole Rev cancel shit is going to take some time to get used to. My opponents keep doing shit that I've always known as punishable, but then they cancel it into other shit and end up being safe. Worse than blue balls.
>>729207330She's fun but is super meter hungry and has to be piloted perfectly to get any value out of her. Compared to most of the cast.
>>729190096I'm retired from the genre 'cause I'm old and my fingers hurt, but I rub one out to my wife Jam thrice a day.
>>729209096nta but this one
>>729211601Is more a matter of which ones makes it easier to do it perfectly rather than which one just lets you do it at all, I don't think the input is hard to do regardless of controller, but I can feel the pianoing from the keyboard / hitbox always has a very consistent timing which means perfect / consistent height TKs feel more natural than the drag jump into button timing from controller / stick.And of course every Baiken online does it, they have to, is like their mix-up 101. I can do it relatively cleanly with keyboard and I'm not even a Baiken player myself, so I don't got much practice with it.
>>729190096Based.Sub Zero > Sc*rpion
>>729212074sause?
>>729212162Well I get the putting both the jump and attack on the same hand thing but you're having to learn to jump on the right hand and at the right time to begin with just to get to that point. (I'm sure there are people who just straight up right thumb jump from the start but that's still a weird thing given most WASD gaming is with left thumb jump)With L+R=N in the Capcom rules the direction switching advantage basically does not exist, you can occasionally get 0 frame transitions if you time it perfect but it's canceled out by the times you get a super slow one from overlapping inputs instead. Well if you stick a red actuator in a JLX-TPML and crank the switches to max you can do 0 frame booms on stick anyways...
>>729190096GG Strive and GFVS: Rising since those two are the most played, also KOF XV cause I love Shermie and Leona.
>>729190096>solblud thinks he's on the team
>>729212943I really wanted Galleon to be the Shermie function in Rising...
>>729203196whose the most op character so i can beat arcade with no continues
>>729212714>you're having to learn to jump on the right handThat stuff is just muscle memory, is not hard, but I get you.>With L+R=N in the Capcom rules the direction switching advantage basically does not existThe advantage from directions comes from the fact that you have no travel time between them, so it's easier to switch sides to block, and say you have a Sonic Boom or a Flashkick, on arcade or controller you have to do 2~5~8 but on Hitbox and Keyboard you only do 2 ~ 8, because you release 4 or 2 and instantly tap 6 or Space + Attack, so you shave-off a few frames that would be otherwise vulnerable.>you can occasionally get 0 frame transitions if you time it perfect but it's canceled out by the times you get a super slow one from overlapping inputs insteadIt's hard to overlap your inputs really unless you're very not used to the controls.Also L+R=N means you have weird shortcuts like being able to do a dash or backdash by holding L+R and double tapping the opposite direction or being able to do 236236 by holding 6 and double tapping 4+2, it's weird but it's a thing.It creates some weird things like for example on BB it makes microdashing neutral attack easier because you don't risk doing 66 6+Input.In this example if I were to dash by pressing 66 5A I would risk pressing 66 6A instead, with SOCD dashing there is almost no risk of doing that miss-input. It's more useful for Makoto rather than Kagura since she has a really hard link with 66 5B for optimal combos, mostly because she has access to a 6B attack too so it's easy to miss-input into that since the window for the dash is really small.Though I guess you could argue an arcade stick you can just tap the lever and it achieves nearly the same effect as well, but that's just an example, I'm sure there's many more SOCD shortcut tricks that I don't use or know.
>>729194416Imagine a salaryman doing that in public.
I thought the complaints about people in Tekken 8 not rematching were a meme, or at least an exaggeration but holy shit, it really is very common for people to one and done, even when they winWhat the fuck
>>729190768They need to take another whack at 3d or remake shaolin monks. But that would take balls and it's easier just to make the same shit apparently
>>729204513You get out of it what you put into it fucking dumbass, no wonder you probably think games are shit.
>>729190096Been trying to get into SF6 but gonna go back to focusing on Guilty Gear Strive and maining Faust. Might get grab Melty Blood Type Lumina since it’s cheap right now too
>>729216878>dump 8 gorillion hours into fighting games for extremely little fun
>>729190096Scorpion isn't even the protagonist guilty troon
I just finished playing some UNI2. As I logged off, I did some more theorycrafting and I want to test it out, but it's late and requires an opponent to present a specific option, so I'd rather just call it until some other time and read a book instead.
>>729216719In the cesspool of fighting game players Tekken manages to be the scum at the bottom
That's it i quit
>>729217383>dump 8 gorillion hours to get good enough that people start looking up to you and get excited to meet you at eventsyeah
>>729218131>implying you won't be mocked by 99% of the people there who put 888 gorillion hours in
>>729190096>This is why AI was invented and I love itTried getting back into GGStrive but I honestly lost interest after a few ranked matches. Some characters are just way too fucking guess-coded, which makes defending not rewarding at all.
>>729190096Strive and 2xko are the only ones i'm remotely interested in. Strive i am bored of it and just playing to reach vanquisher before i take a break until 2.02xko i'm not even so sure it won't flop, i just do the battlepass shit to get rewards and not become too rusty in case it survives.Tokon looks boring af and i hate capeshit. It's kind of a bleak period for the genre
>>729219808>BBCF is in the main lineup of EVO 2026odds i pick up Naoto againEvens i stick with the old reliable Jin
>>729192747Absolutely not you capeshit retard
>>729215490>It's hard to overlap your inputs really unless you're very not used to the controls.Admittedly this statement was made in the context of a standard mechanical keyboard where the travel is high enough you need to be like 1/3 of the way down on one and 1/3 of the way up on the other already to have a hope in fuck of making it next frame, but I've messed around on Sanwas before and it's not THAT easy. On these ridiculous 0.5mm travel mouse switch buttons they have now I'm sure it's getting there...
>>729194416What the fuck should I do to not get filtered by the all the "charge partitioning" bullshit that's required to play this character competitively? I don't play charge characters all that much but most people make it look somewhat rewarding when you grasp how his playstyle works
