>steals Tolkiens ideas>profits and polices them tyrannically
based free market
>>729191280>Greek fags and viking fags make up stupid boring stories>Tolkien steals ideas from vikingfags and greek fags>DnD steals ideas from tolkien that have been stoled from viking fags and greek fags>Everyone steals ideas from dnd which have been stolen from tolkien which have been stolen from vikingfags and greekfags>This becomes a slop video game genre
I don't care that Warhammer Fantasy was a Tolkien ripoff and 40k is just Fantasy in Space, I just want them to stop raping the lore. Both franchises need to be hard resetback to the early 2000s.Fuck Age of SmegmarFuck the Horus HeresyI want the franchises to go back being half-parodies of dark fantasy/sci-fi. Now they've become exactly what they used to parody.40k is just a fucking space opera now and Sigmar is just the worst parts of Planescape mixed with worst parts of World of Warcraft.
>>729191280>steals ideas from starcraft>steals ideas from star wars>steals ideas from terminator>steals ideas from alien>tries to trademark space marine and orc>forces content creators to delete shit that was advertising their garbage universes.>gets butthurt when someone even looks at their property wrongGames Workshop is final level captilisitic kikery.
>>729191280Yeah but Tolkien didn't come up with anything as cool as armored mutants with psychic powers that wield chainsaw swords
Much like OP they actually had an eye for Moorcock.
>>729192181lel
Warhammer Fantasy? Sure.40,000? Absolutely not. 40,000 was inspired by a little bit of everything during at the time Eldrich/Cosmic Horror, Fantasy, Starship Troopers etc
>>729192013>I just want them to stop raping the lore.GW wants anyone interested in pre-2015 Warhammer gone. They don't want to be tied to any standards or expectations held by older fans, all so they can water everything down for mass appeal and make as much money before their IPs are destroyed.
i didn't know tyrannids were in LOTR
>>729191280And Tolkien ripped off Wagner so what
>>729191280GW is fuckng dumb
40k was mostly inspired by Nemesis the Warlock, Judge Dredd and Dune
>>729191280Read these two book series and you have like 90% of the inspiration for 40k. It's especially bad with dune and just how much shit they just one-to-one copied.
>>729191280>ends up pozzed>evil is not able to create anything newProven right once again.
>>729193482>Starship TroopersThe 2000 AD influences are a lot more palpable IMO.
>>729191280Yeah because Tolkien invented Elves and Dwarves, moron.
>>729193194I can't be mad be at you for speaking the truth, but I'm still angry because it hurts deep.
>>729193194If they want more mass appeal they're going to need to drop the prices for their models also the fact you have to paint them yourself naturally gatekeeps like 99% of people out
>>729193021I don't remember Skavens in The Lord of the Ring.
>>729194085Yeah that's true but ultimately the entire setting is heavily inspired by Lord of The Rings.With certain elements from 40k which I think it fundementally fucking cool.There's nothing wrong with Warhammer fantasy copying other fantasy tropes, its just obvious that they took way more from tolkein than they like to admit.
>>729194039My take is that they're trying to turn the tabletop portion of the IPs into a luxury hobby (more so, I mean). However, with the IPs, more generally, it seems like GW is trying to spin them into broader multimedia properties (again, more so).It seems like GW wants Warhammer (40k specifically) to be something akin to the next Star Wars. Something they can use to generate a firehose of easily digestible content with.The fucked thing is, I don't see GW's current success lasting for more than a decade or so, at best. A big chunk of the current interest in Warhammer (again, 40k specifically) exists because all the "traditional" and more mainstream IPs have already been plundered, and it's novel to normalfags. Once that novelty wears off, and all the edges are watered down, those normalfags will move on to the next new thing - like a swarm of locusts moving to a new field after stripping the last one bare.
>>729191280Not exactly. Citadel Miniatures would make minis for all kinds of wargames and RPGs. So they had renaissance minis, war of the roses minis, lord of the rings minis, D&D minis, etc. They also wrote scenarios for RPGs like D&D, and these scenarios started getting bigger and bigger to the point they were effectively skirmish wargames. It's from that the first Warhammer Fantasy Battles was created, and in order to properly utilise their back-catalogue of existing minis, the setting become a kitchen-sink of fantasy tropes. Hence we end up with 11th Century France with Bretonnia, right next door to 15th Century Prussia with the Reikland, not!Egypt mummies and skeletons with Khemri, and not!Moria dwarves in the mountains, and so on.Warhammer 40,000 was definitely more of a conscious effort to take ideas from Dune, 2000AD, Terminator, Starship Troopers, Ringworld, and others, and create a new setting. Fun fact, 1st Edition 40k (Rogue Trader) typically used a GM or DM like any other RPG. It wasn't until 2nd Edition that it become more of a versus wargame.
>>729193194>>729194039>drop the pricesThey have no incentive to. They've consistently raised prices or lowered model counts per box and made more money year on year.>>729195946>I don't see GW's current success lasting for more than a decade or soThey're still heavily relying on childless millennials/gen xers with disposable income, just like every contemporary "nerd culture" industry. They won't survive the next big crash IMO and the brand will be sold off to an equity firm.
