>can't even see your kill stats at the end of a mapwtf is this bullshit?
It's boomgroid uncslop
there's a mod for it, but green circle chasers were a genuine issue in VT2not like it stops anyone, since the people who give a shit will just install said mod
>>729200964Scores hurt the feelings of shitters
>>729201116>green circle chasersgod forbid somebody shoots the specials and aims for melee headshots
Yeah i hate how the game forces teamwork i just want to beat my teammates and call them shit
>>729201278that's not the issue, the issue was always some retard elf fucking off and chasing meaningless kills to pad stats
>>729201423i do this all the time to farm the most kills and if my team dies trying to revive me i still get to call them shit and blame them because i farmed more kills than them lol
>>729201151maybe they should git gud
There's an easy to install mod for it, I miss it
>>729201151how else are you supposed to know if your build is good or if you did good?
>>729201564Being a shitter is a life long affliction >try new game>be bad at it>ruin runs or at least heavily inconvenience others in runs>get discouraged >quit game>move on to the next thing to be bad at
>>729201662Probably by not dying as much? if you want to tryhard there are tons of metabuild spreadsheets already out there
competition amongst your peers to be better is bad, guarantee this was a 'woman's decision. Just like participation trophies were.
>>729201779>most NPCs are women>all of the story NPCs are women>most builds are women>all the enemies are menwhat was your first clue?
>>729201885Swedish women crave nurgling cock
>>729200964It doesn't matter, you don't have max kills. The Psyker with Soulblaze build does, he has the most damage too.
>>729201704Are you talking about yourself? If so, take a deep breath because you're not ruining anything (unless you're playing whatever the hardest difficulty is and jumping the queue). If you're playing something for new players (or intermediate) and struggling and there's a good player there, you're just giving them the opportunity to pay forward the kindness that was done for them when they were learning.
>>729202175>Are you talking about yourself? No I'm bretty gud at Dorktide
>>729201615what mod?
In the difficulties that actual matter not dying is the most impressive stat
>>729200964there's a mod for that
Vermintide 2 is a better game, but I like Darktide too, I go back and forth.
>>729200964Theres a mod out there that restores it, my friend uses it all the time. It's kind of annoying because I'm just always running after my friend saving his ass constantly because he does not want to stick together but wants to be at the top of the board all the time. Pretty much how it goes is>queue up with 4 friends>move through the map>3 of us are working together>notice other friend fucked off to boost his stat spreadsheet but only notice it when he's crying about no one saving him because he just got downed>we all go down trying to save him>calls us shit because he constantly kamikazes himself to get the best statsNow we just play with the 3 of us in invisible mode when he's online and we do much better with most randoms lol.
>>729202390just don't save him lol and then talk shit for him fucking everyone over.
>>729200964Friendly no-stakes competition with your peers is masculine and problematic. If you chase green circles, you're a try hard, but also you aren't trying hard enough because you aren't killing the enemies I want you to in the place I want you to kill them. I am not trying too hard by the way - you are. PS - can you pick me up? I went down to swarm enemies (because the specials are all dead) while surrounded by two other friendly players in melee range because you were soloing somewhere else and that's your fault because you weren't here to block and push for me.
>>729202454>people do that anyways>just now with out stats
>>729202550Yep, which is why they should finally add bots. My favorite thing about vermintide is not having to drag shitters through content they aren't good enough to complete without a babysitter.
>>729200964Probably because you can make your build into a DPS, support or survival build but no one is gonna do the latter 2 if it's a competition between your teammates rather than a teamwork game.
>>729203217DPS is the support build, those crushers won't kill themselves.
>>729203249Yet people get upset when I don't bring the shield when I'm playing Psyker.
cant even play this garbage with out failed to decompress crashing
>>729203297>genuinely being a support bitch for randoms and caring what they think.Go buy vitamin b6 p5p and down 500mg for the next week until your brain stops registering you as a woman.
>>729201779>competition amongst your peers to be better is badit's not about competition but elitism among nerds, people already vote to kick players because they don't have Havoc shit on their portrait/title
>>729204117Green circles are tallied after the run, why would someone kick you mid-match for green circle performance?
>>729204196I don't mind a scoreboard, I just don't know what it would track that your Penances don't do already
>>729203353amd gpu?
>>729201927this is unironically the plot with a healthy dose of Bro-con. Unfortunately the only way to figure that out is through 8 second youtube clips fatshark will randomly take down 2 months later.
>>729200964I don't really like warhammer and I think the people that do are goobers, but damn did some good music come out of it.https://youtu.be/Ni3CazygOh4
>>729204612>I don't really like warhammer and I think the people that do are goobersI love Warhammer and think people are goobers.
>>729204654What people?
>>729204612>>729204654Some of the books are fantastic and have some great characters, but GW has dozens of writers of wildly different quality and are incredibly random about things they do and don't want in their IPs.Best way to enjoy the setting is to embrace the shit you like and call the things you don't like gay and retarded.also never give GW money directly they are gay and retarded.
>>729204612The audio dramas are good
>WAHHHHH GREEN DOT CHASERSMore like you shitters don't want to be called out for your abysmal damage/kills
>>72920451713900k intel
>>729200964You can just install a mod
>>729205142works fine on my 13700k
>>729205185what mod?
>>7292045177900XTX 7800x3d
>>729205317the game has issues on amd gpus. like for some reason the ram usage swells up to 30 gigs on my friends rig playing this game with his 9700xt meanwhile mine never passes 16 with my 5080
>>729201885>most NPCs are womenAnd the ones in charge(Morrow and Rannick)are men. Hell one of the big story events is a woman fucking up and her boss, a man, berating the shit out of her, seizing command of the mission from her, and doing his best to salvage the mess she created. Hadron is best girl anyway, and has never done anything wrong.
>>729201885>most NPCs are womenMorrow, Rannick, Grendal, Brunt, Oska, Wolfar, Kayex, Swagger, Melk, Zorin
They're retarded.I remember mentioning this years ago and for some the community refused to ask Fatshark why they were being faggots about this, especially since it was already a good feature in vermintide 2.
>>729206165>GrendalThe only time we see Grendal is that servitor during the warrior scene that projects various holographic faces, at least one of which is a woman. Grendal's gender is so far unconfirmed.
>>729201885>>all the enemies are menthe admonition soldiers have both male and female voicelinesthe trapper is female and horny for you.i hope you never play the tabletop because it's mostly about killing men too lmao
>>729206632Unless your' opponent plays SoB.
>>729205185 Yeah but good luck finding one that isn't broken by the latest patch or thrown together by a Ukrainian teenager in 2019 that hasn't updated it since. Half the modding scene is just trying to brute force shit back into the game that was cut or locked behind asinine progression. Honestly respect to them though, without mods the game would feel like a tech demo with decent voice acting.
>>729200964How is this game? I played a bit of vermintide 2 years ago and I liked it. If that's better should I just get the dlc for that instead?
>>729205207dont give a a fuckshit devs
>>729200964Warhammer is such a cool universe and the only things they have to show for it is cool looking art, Tabletop thats to expensive and gay to put together to play, and Vermintide 2. Someone should manage this better.
>>729207690>Tabletop thats to expensive3d print them
>>729207690Based eldar appreciator, they have some of the best looking minis.
>>729207268>How is this game?Combat and music are great. Rest is shit.
>>729207268It has a lot more focus on range combat, and different temporary health system. Most people will say stage design is worse which is kinda true but, it's mostly because almost every stage is the same slum looking ahhh shithole, the stage structure itself is fine imo
>>729200964Scoreboard promotes toxicity. It leads to a competition where you are rewarded for griefing your teammates. Ive seen people obsessed with the score hit barrels and shoot poxbursters close to others so that they would explode on your face, tanking your score (as it counts as damage taken). There is no place for competition in a PVE game.
>>729208318You get nicer looking stuff in the mid level and upper spire environments.
I like the dog class.
>>729207268It's ok. The gameplay changes put it in a halfway house between Payday 2 and VT2. Map environments are quite dull and lack significant landmarks to make it feel like you're going somewhere which they kinda addressed later on but the early maps are still ass. The main issue I have is they wanted to make it feel like there's multiple teams doing work in the same area at different times but the revisit points are just not that memorable.
reminds me of overwatch not having a scoreboard and being global elite CSGO player playing soldier and destroying everybody while my team raged at me for some irrelevant BS, the enemy team interjected and told them I was the only good player, no scoreboard just empowers dunning kruger shitters
>>729208138I might have to collect an Eldar Army, the new models are making them more and more cooler.
>>729209215Eldar were always cool, only smelly manlet worshippers ever thought otherwise.
>>729206476Grendyl is the mysterious voice who is Lady Brahm's great grandfather. He is either a deamonhost or has become an AI and is seemingly bound to the Mourningstar.
>>729201423If it was such a problem, why did Fatshark add a class where two of its abilities are designed to make you Shift+W into more enemies to keep the abilities going?
>>729207861 Based. Ain’t dropping $60 on plastic crack when my buddy Ron has a pile of STLs and an Ender 3 chugging 24/7. Spray 'em black, drybrush, and boom-table-ready. GW can keep crying about "IP infringement" while I field a whole army molded in my garage.
>>729206632
>>729205990
>>729201116This. I originally thought it was a cucked choice at first but now I realize it was the right one.You can always tell if someone is using the scoreboard mod because they'll play obnoxiously.
>>729200964Why are the missions in this game so short compared to vermintide?
>>729212840cope your bad lol teamwork is for fags
>>729200964>stats at the end of a mapTHATS RAPE YOU ARE RAPING ME BY SHOWING MY SCORE
>BF 2042 doesnt have a scoreboardRetarded decision it's a competitive game>Darktide doesnt have a scoreboardGood decision, it's a coop game where you work together to get from point A to point B you don't play against your team mates.
>>729212798man it reminds me of the horrible grind at the start because half the stats were locked
>>729201540You are the reason why i don't talk to people online
>>729207861Ooooohh! Now you are being controversive, aren't you!
i just like to shoot idiots with my shotgun while my dog rapes some bitch.
>>729217513THE LEX voice actor carries the dlc on his back
>>729201423that's never been a thingyou're just shitters who can't stand looking at the scoreboard
>>729217104Seeing at least some numbers would have been nice, I feel like it's genuinely useful to know if you're not too far behind your peers when experimenting with builds, beyond just vibes as those can be deceiving.Though overall scoreboard faggotry makes no sense in this game, my Psyker just naturally does does more DPS compared to other classes, doesn't mean I'm the most useful one on the team
in any games that aren't cod or fifa or some gay shit like that, there are tons of things that scoreboards don't show. it leads to johnny fuckwit just chasing kills (or even worse, just damage) instead of engaging in teamwork, smart targeting, smart positioning or utilisation of abilities.
>>729218335The only metrics that would matter maybe is how often you went down and how many people you revived. That would actually encourage good play and good teamwork. Not fucking off to boost your scoreboard.
>>729200964>wokehammer
>>729200964just call out and count your kills like a normal person
I've missed out on anniversary event frame and currency by like 200 points, because I could not care less about running the even maps desu. Hivecum is ok, weapons are fun, but skills are lame.Enjoying Rogue Trader rn
>>729203297I have never once seen anyone remark on the ability someone brought. Except when a stealth zealot is being shit.
>>729218492this, just use a piece of paper and a pen.
>play shield ogre>always get matched with a shield ogre>play something else>never have a tank
>>729218593i know that feel
how do I survive auric missions as Veteran?when I play Ogryn or Zealot its all dandy, but the moment I play Veteran I am a wet paperbag
>>729205142DISABLE UVP IN BIOSINSTALL XTULOWER YOUR P-CORES BY 10%
>>729218593I had a party of 4 shield ogryns last nightwas pretty fun
>>729217958i was really surprised how useful the dog really is. that little shit is a beast
>>729200964because number of kills is meaningless to beat the map? learn to skip
>>729200964i saw a nigga using a damage score to chat mode in darktide and holy shit. that was the cringiest shit i've ever seen. how desperate can you be?
>>729218795kek i hope he gets mocked every time someone recognize his handle.
>>729218647YOU SHOULD JUST BE POPPING BIGS WITH A BOLT PISTOL AND HAVE A HORDE CLEARING MELEE (MOST LIKELY NOT SOMETHING LIKE THE TACTICAL AXE)
>>729218430>The only metrics that would matter maybe is how often you went down and how many people you revived.theres a lot of things to take note of, holy shit the fucking participation award syndrome of you fuckers.
>>729218686imagine pelting bosses with rocks
tranner uses a scoreboard, says it all for me
>>729218686How does the cat do it?
>>729218795mad cuz bad
The monetization is absolutely abysmal. What the fuck were they thinking?Selling new classes for 20 bucks instead of significantly cheaper to lure people in and then sell cosmetics. But then again the cosmetics are hot garbage. Who came up with the brilliant idea to unironically sell dozens of color changed reskins and the occasional bit or bob changed.
>>729219847found the mod user
>>729219878its makes the shop look well stocked and isnt that work intensive.
>>729219878>currently on sale>game costs less than a single class dlc
>>729218984 Honestly bolt pistol slaps when you remember to actually use it like a damn vet and not a pseudo-zealot. Pop the crushers, shooters, muties - all of 'em go down quick if you aim for the noggin. For melee, power sword or chainaxe eat hordes like candy. Tactical axe is only good at tickling elites and pretending you're helping. Stick with your team, play backline overwatch, and stop trying to face tank, you're not built for it.
I use scoreboards but quit after it caused crashes with the most recent patch. I feel naked without it.I also stopped playing because I just grinded my own Havoc assignment level to 40 and it reset it back to 30 so fuck that.
>>729219878tencent
NOOOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTANDHOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW IF I'M PLAYING THE GAME CORRECTLY WITHOUT A SPREADSHEET OF NUMBERS TELLING ME EXACTLY HOW I PERFORMED? IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT WE BEAT THE LEVEL AND SECURED THE BAG, I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY TOES I STUBBED!
>>729200964You already see who is killing the elites in real time and unless you have a retard like a stealth zealot trying to +W far ahead of the team all alone just by opening your eyes you can tell who is pulling their weight and who isn't.
>>729220539i just need it so i can tell you ur shit if we don't make it. but often people are still doing better than me so i dont say anything at all unless i can post stats in the chat to back me up lol
>>729201116I have the mod to check if I'm underperforming with whatever new loadout I'm trying out.Thing is most games have a lonewolf padding kills so it ends being fucking useless unless he dies and leaves.
Solo player hereStopped playing the game once I could comfortably finish I think Auric diff missions.All I had left was maelstorm I think, all I remember is it had crazy modifiers like multiple bosses every few roomsTried it a couple times but we always wiped on the first horde or boss.Do I have to get good, find premade groups, stick to meta builds or all of the above?Are they even fun?
>>729202390Just let him die. I don't revive my friends it will cost us the run.
>>729220824i play maelstrom all the time with shitty fun builds and they're doable as long as you know what you're doing. they're not hard. you only need meta slop when doing HAVOC shit. if you can do auric, then maelstrom shouldn't be hard for you.
>>729220824You can get good to solo Auric Maelstrom but it's honestly something only the best players can do.I personally play Maelstrom all the time but I don't mind if we lose, I can't and don't want to be fully locked in all afternoon to carry randos.
>>729220897>>729220881Solo as in no friends, I play with randosI'll try to get into again one of these days, relearning these types of games is always fun and I'm done with space marine 2 for now.
>>729221213Yes, I played solo for my first 800 hours.I have a group now and success rate is like +90%, whereas it was way lower with randos.That's just how it is with these games.
>>729200964>kill statslmao>retard installs kill count mod>spends 5 minutes hacking away at spawn points rather than progressing and PTFO>fucks up and gets taken out>squad wipemany such cases.you don't get more points for farming hordes, retard.>>729201151more kills isn't better, the game is about efficiently and quickly getting the objectives done. high kill games are usually badly played ones.
>Ogryn>Pick axe>heavy hitter for the attack speed>infinite toughness as long as I'm fighting in a horde>gaunlet, kickback or rumbler, whatever, I'm only using them vs gunners or if pinned down anywayYup, it's gaming timeAny reason to use a different melee weapon?I used to like knives but IMO they got power creeped
>>729221485Is that mod the reason why sometimes some retards keep standing outside out of the extraction plane blasting for half an hour at the mobs instead of just getting on the fucking ship? so annoying.
>>729221650It's probably for the poxbreaker achievement that requires 1m kills.
>>729221515The smashy shovel does obscene damage to everything with its alt, making it a better thunder hammer, I don't know if it's BETTER than the pickaxe but it one-shots mutants and that's funif you liked knives then you can take the light attack-focused club because it's pretty much the same thing but actually decent, and the slap is funny
>>729221213I've finished lots of maelstroms with randoms.Some groups legitimately can't do it though, you're gonna wipe sometimes. Its not like auric where you'll usually clear.
I know I’m at the top of the board. Don’t need no mod to tell me this
>>729221650This >>729221745While the game has no native killcount it has a shitload of dumb achievements (and some shitty cosmetics) that force the people who want to get them to play in a certain way. That way is often counter productive.
Help I can't stop using the plasma gun!>ouch uff hot hot
>>729222986Me?Luv' me hellbore lasgun
>>729218686Holy shit is this real
>>729221907I tried it before the ogryn overhaul but it was alright but lacked talent support.Mk2 was super fun though, not brain desd combos and its slap, punch, overhead never gets old.
>>729221515>ogryns just knock shit over and stagger enemies by dodging>weapon with cleaveYou have only begun to fight.
whats the best way to not get raped by Gunners when they are being bitch ass mofos sitting half across the world just peppering you?% reduction curios?
>>729222986I literally cannot stop breaching the Warp. They don't even have enough slots for me to save all of my Psyker builds at once
>>729223551Yeah gunner damage reduction is mandatory on every class. Also learn to spam slide
>>729223551i mean, yea. and spamming the slide dodge, being overly aggressive to keep your toughness up and you know... use your gun, nigga.
>>729223551Yell at the guardsman.
>>729223551shotgun to the face when they blink at you
>>729223551Get better at slidding between cover, if there is cover at allStagger them at range with grenades, explosive weapons psyker autohit bullshit, shields.. etcGive somebody else some breathing room and hope he targets the gunners instead of the horde you're controlling for him
>>729223551I just gun them down before they can gun me.
i tried installing the scoreboard mod a few weeks ago and my game crashed for the very first time.did i fuck something up or was there a patch needed at the time?
>>729224409Hive Scum caused some ammo counter issue, if that's what's happening to youThere's a tiny tweak you can do that fixes it, it's probably on the nexus page somewhere or some reddit/coopg thread, nothing difficult
>>729224347the fucking revolver is a meme. it takes forever too reload for how little it does.>b-but it works against carapaceyea, but that shit wont help you when you're surrounded by a horde of Maulers and Crushers. just use the boltgun or an Infantry Autogun Vraks V.
>>729224561Holy skill issue, batman.
>>729200964The other day i was playin chiv2 and was top of the scoreboard with an absurd like 64 assists while being 9-4 on kd. And 2nd was a guy with some assists and was like 36 kills and however many deaths. And it just goes to show there is more that matters than just kills.More damage, dying less to the enemy counts for something.
>>729224606i know what im talking about. the boltgun with bleed already does the same shit the revolver does without sacrificing your precious reload time.
>>729224479got it. thanks anon
I dunno, I played all maps several times now, it's getting kinda repetitive.
>>729224828experimenting with the builds is what gave me a lot of play time, but if you're not into that. i can understand.
>>729217104L4D2, the gold standard of coop games, has has a scoreboard system
>>729224697Bolt pistol takes longer to swap to and aim down sights, for the revolver niche its basically instant I'm bad at aiming so I can make the bolt pistol work thanks to its stagger giving me some breathing room even if I miss
>>729224863The problem is that most of the weapons in the game feel like shit to use so there's no fun in doing that.
>>729225018WRONG
>>729225018the only thing that would make the guns better is if they suck off the player
>>729224697>you're surrounded by a horde of Maulers and CrushersRevolver offers really high mobility which makes it really good on zealot just by that virtue, it also can one shot all specials on head shot except the bulwark, crusher and there are veteran builds which could one shot those enemies as well. Honestly if are getting filtered by armored mobs after spending a thousand hours in the game I think you're not doing good but hey, you could just use the new mark of the bolt pistol if you arent feeling comfortable running a revolver.
>>729201779In a coop setting, competition incentivizes sabotage or simply not helping teammates. This is a real thing that happens. You see it a lot in Helldivers 2 where people split up and play their own little solo games even though it's a 4 player coop game.Besides you can just use the mod if you're interested.
>>729224969>>729225329>takes longer to swap to and aim down sights>mobilitythe infantry autogun vraks v is right there.
>>729202449This. Or you can shoot a barrel and not have to deal with him.
>>729218647Bring shout and pace yourself.The easiest way to carry as Vet is being quick on the trigger to snipe specials. With shout you can clear space to do that, save retarded teammates from blowing up the whole team with a burster, pick them up for free, stun bosses and keep yourself alive through various shitfests. If you're having trouble killing specials just aim better.Also, choose blitz after your weapons to round your loadout. Have Uncanny Strike? Bring frags. Poor anti armor? Kraks + all three grenade talents. Playing with people you know, you're going fast and don't have a bubble psyker? Smokes.
>>729203297Take Gaze, because if everything is dead you don’t need to be bubble pussies.
>>729223551Gunners are some of the weakest enemies in the game.Like anons said, get at least 2x 20% damage resist curios. And then do any of the following:>dodge / slide / run up to them and punch them in the face>kill them with gun>suppress them>CC them with explosives>line-of-sight them using the mapbasically gunners fold under the tiniest amount of pressure
>>729225471>mobilityYou literally move faster with the revolver.
>>729203297>ENTERthis + spam the secondary attack of the electrokinetic staff and everything in your screen will fucking die instantly and you wont ever have to worry about your team.
>>729218647>but the moment I play Veteran I am a wet paperbagHoho you should have player pre-update hive scum. Veteran was a tank compared to the scum back then.
>>729224561You shouldn't be using any of those weapons against Carapace. Revolver is a quickdraw weapon made for instantly swapping to and deleting specials, don't keep it out for more than one shot if you can help it. Playing WS Vet lets you keep slashing and shooting and never have to reload.Boltgun does god awful Carapace damage in terms of efficiency, particularly after the crusher health buff. Bringing it as your anti armor option is legit throwing. It has a really long draw animation so you want to use it as a dedicated special sniper weapon or a get the fuck off me button against mixed horde mobs like ragers and maulers. It's also particularly good against bosses though, and you'll easily 1 clip anything if you want to be spicy and bring Exe stance.IAG is a pure crit and headshot machine, and one of the best weapons to kill individual shooters with because you get tons of ammo in a mag and deal enough damage to 1 shot headshot. Anything else is good damage but shit ammo efficiency except against Carapace where it does practically nothing. It's also pretty slow.tl;dr those are three completely different weapons with entirely different use cases what are you talking about brother?
>>729203217there is no support role in the tide games, you either kill shit or you're weighing your team down
>>729200964I had an auric pub match with 3 xbox players. God it was like playing with customizable bots like in VT2. They are so ponderous and have awful reaction times...
>>729226286i think that's a matter of definition. Playing support doesn't mean you can't kill anything. Chorus zealot is support but they're still killing all game long.
>>729226286Bubble psyker is support, stim supply hive scum can be support.
played for 14 hour in total. fun little game.
>>729226818fuck da police!
>>729226868Arbitrators resolve conflicts under the umbrella of alternative dispute resolution, more like fuck the judge
I hope that success of Arbites and failure of Hive Scum will finally make Fatshark realize that Reject faggotry was a mistake
>>729227059rejects are based actually.
>>729227059I still want Reclaimators for the Admech slot, since they're basically the Rejects of the Admech>Low rank members that nobody trusts but do all the most vital/fun work anyway
Why do people act like the Scoreboard only shows damage and kills when it records team scores, like objectives and revives, and defense scores, like damage taken, blocks and staggers?
>>729222769>>729221650they had the right idea not having a scoreboard by default but then they ruined it by introducing kill count based achievementsI've lost count of the number of times 3 guys are in the door/elevator thing pinging away and fending off wave after wave of poxbursters and gunners while a single retard is running around in the back not doing anything in particular
>>729227114Hive scum made the rejects actually look better in comparison.
>>729223551don't hack away at the spawn door and instead keep the trash off your vet so he can pick them off and you can all progress
>>729225471Malicelets stop fucking posting holy shit.
>>729227961nigger, i got more auric maulstrom under my belt than you got hours in this game. i've seen shitty revolver users fucking die instantly the second they surrounded. just stop fucking coping already and own the fact that the stupid revolver sucks ass.
>>729226527just because you have one ability that benefits the team doesn't mean you're playing support>>729226635it's not, that's just 1 defensive ability, you're still killing shit with all the rest of your kit
>>729224561For ooga booga throwing knife zealot it's a great secondary, you're supposed to swap it in for a quick shot at something your knife can't kill and then swap back to your melee, then reload when shit calms down. Bolt pistol is good too though because of the stagger. Lmao at zealots taking Vraks, use your fucking melee for sustained damage and don't kill your mobility mag dumping.
>>729228165>knife with revolver>using single dps with single dps AAAAUUUUGGGHHH. you niggers piss me off. i dont even need to explain to you why that's fucking stupid.
>>729201278>shitters who take most dmg, kill least elites and specials invent stories on how they're actually not the shittersLmaoIf you need teammates to survive you're a shitter.If you speedrun but can't survive without babysitters you're just a spastic shitter.
>>729228821>to surviveyou need teammates to PTFO, retard. since you're not paying any attention to the actual mission and just running off to "survive" somewhere unrelated to the task at hand, you're the drain
>>729201116Green circle chasing became a non issue once ranged got nerfed. Almost all of it was due to people FFing people in an attempt to kill a wandering enemy first, ignoring team mates in trouble to shoot random stormvermin that hadn’t even noticed them, or just generally being oblivious retards with target fixation.When the balance shifted more to melee, ranged classes started to actually do their jobs properly.
>>729201779>competition amongst your peers to be betterwhich option do you think the typical mouthbreather aged 13-17 is gonna pick when presented with a shiny scoreboard in a coop game>get so good at the game that you just effortlessly rack up the kills even as you're playing the objective and supporting your teamvs>ignoring your team and the objectives to farm kills, making the mission take twice as long, spawning additional waves of enemies and increasing the chance of a misstep leading to a squad wipe
>>729200964>hey hive scum is pretty good at base auric>try maelstrom and high intensity auric>sufferingI feel like I need to have excessively high APM to perform marginally better than other classes as hive scum. The class isnt worth it at all for casual players.
>>729229246>he can't move batteries aloneLoL, you're dead weight.Ngmi
>>729227273Dataminers found the codename for the next class being called "Cryptic" so maybe.
>>729225905You know its odd, I tried to remake this build having not played since near-launch. I got it about 95% the same talent picks just by looking through. Then when I went onto the build site I was surprised and saw this.I kinda want to drop ONE thing and take no mobility loss on quell.I dont know if its worth it. Should I drop the +20% dmg based on peril (bottom middle tree right side at the end) or drop +20% warp attack rending?
>>729228821Pretty much anyone with an eye for builds instantly recognizes the passive coherency bonuses from all classes are massive boosts that shit on solo builds, and everyone can get hit by a special and its nice to be able to rescue a teammate. Even in situations where it benefits you to split up most content can be done with a group of 2 and 2 if you split.
>>729226286>>729228148You give up killing power to bring something that supports the team. That's the definition of a support build. Smoke Vet loses out a lot by bringing smokes but they still kill enemies. Doesn't make it anything but a support build when the alternatives are focused on killing.
>>729201662>how else are you supposed to know if your build is good or if you did good?If you don't just innately feel and see if your build is good or not, you're not good at the game.>>729201885>all of the story NPCs are womenNo they're not, you just made that up.>all the enemies are menNo they're not. You did not play this game.
>>729228236Zealot deals good enough damage to mulch hordes even with a knife.It's not an optimal setup but you need anti armor melee with a revolver and you might not vibe with dsword, chain axe, eviscerator or thunder hammer.
>>729226159>Boltgun awful armor damageAnd just like that they became retarded.
>>729233140Yeah spending half your mag to kill one (1) crusher is awful armor damage.Tell me you don't play havoc without saying you don't play havoc.
>>729233140He's right. Bolter mag dumping on carapace armor is a waste of ammo.
Healthy competition is fine. Putting yourself in a bad position to pad your stats means Ill play Ogryn and hang back as usual.
>>729218593Go tank anyway, shield H1 fucks up anything. Two shields means maximum push bullying.
>>729212798I NEED some art of her giving a dispassionate handjob while saying>I will tend to your....relic varlet
Darktide thread shows up just as I need to put food on the table. You assholes better keep this alive another five hours.Please.
>>729201662Got through the mission with no deaths, killed specials with little issue in a good time.Your memory should be good enough considering you literally just played through it.
>>729218593Shield ogryn is not a tank tool. The only tanking you should be doing with it beyond the basic block is to taunt shooters with that taunt-on-block talent that also applies to gunfire. But the ideal use case of the shield is to spam H1 because it shits out infinite stagger, cleave, and damage. No other ogryn is quite as good at that except in some cases pickaxes.
>>729218986>theres a lot of things to take note ofdid you win? did you fail the mission? the retards running off to pad kills in vermintide 2 were insufferable.
Green circles are one thing but I always hating seeing the scoreboard at the end of the game and seeing someone with like 60 kills in VT2 with 0 specials killed that's just insane. Removing the scoreboard just protects these literal wastes of space who do less than the dogshit CPU teammates
>>729218647Examples: Bolter, Power sword, shredder, exec stance. Always take every nade talent. Pop elites one hit each, use shredders to keep making space. Other: Voice of Command for yellow toughness to become god. Krak grenades to pop bulwarks, crushers and bosses before they become a problem. Boltgun for speed and specialis, Duel sword. If gunners are an issue bring smoke and plasma, smoke turns off ranged ai and plasma fucks up anything, Target Priority keystone for free damage.
I just play Veteran and Dogmancer with my friends but since they stopped playing I'm thinking about trying higher difficulties. What weapons are just considered better/dogshit? I'm basically using the sword that has a party as a crutch and spamming the parry when anything is nearby. I'm also just using the plasma gun as veteran and the shield shotgun thing as arbite
>>729219878>Selling new classes for 20 bucks instead of significantly cheaper to lure people in and then sell cosmeticsbecause they don't release any cosmetics for the new class lmao
>>729200964>>729201116>>729201151>>729201278>>729201423>>729201540If you've seen how faggots treated newbies during the hive scum release you'd totally understand why they didn't implement a scoreboard.The darktide community is so fucking toxic it made the angry twink rethink his own toxicity and he was fucking toxic as fuck.
>>729236167>angry twinkHe's a fat spic, you retard.
>>729236167>>729236558peeved pedro or some other angry argentinian?
Is this a good build for Shield Ogryn? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a006d28e-3024-4c8b-b73f-b57383335a8a/dec-2025-havoc-40-ogryn-shield-tank-build-for-the-lilunsI'm just level 13 and struggling to enjoy this game - everything feels so tanky theres no way anyone should be able to take an Ogryns bully club to the face and keep swinging back
>>729224347>>729224561No, no no no. The revolver is the perfect weapon for the "I don't want to use my ranged weapon" player.The best way to use that gun is as an "annoying-nigger-killer". I only use it to shoot:>Snipers>Trappers>Flamers>BombersIt's worthless for anything else, but countering those 4 means you can rely on talents and melee weaponry for everything else in the game. Sometimes a cunt is just out of reach.
>>729236851>Shield OgrynShield sucks. Bully club rocks. You just need to minmax it to 500 power rating to see its full potential.
>>729204521it's missing the hidden little green idol thing that you gotta shoot
>>729236851Ogryn weapons feel really weak until they're maxed out. It's not a satisfying climb, but 1-29 is just a tutorial. If you need to headcanon why things aren't dying when you feel they should, chalk it up to Nurgles blessings. \\Supposedly they've buffed shield, but I've never used it.
>>729237140>>729237370Aight I'll try using Bully club then & work towards maxing it outNext question is is Kickback or Ripper the gun of choice? I'm incredibly disappointing in the Twin-Linked Heavy Stubber
>>729201039this
>>729236851 Ogryn is a CC class.Especially shit like shield ogrynHe doesn't do big huge damage or clear (cept with his weapons really) but he throws everything around like paper. 1-29 does feel particularly bad though, the game really opens up at 30.
>>729237617>1-29 does feel particularly bad thoughthat's why I see no ogryns so far huh
>>729237540The 1-29 climb is where you figure out what you like. Why do you care about the meta. None of the Ogryn weapons are representative of their potential until they're maxed out.
>>729237737Ogryn is a pseudo-tank class. There's not alot of Ogryns because people don't like to play tanks.
>>729236167>toxic as fuckgrow a pair, loser.
>>729237945I play both Veteran and Ogryn, it's giga fun but yeah, I see a lot of Arbites/junkie/Veterans and Zealots. Barely any Ogryn around. They should do something about it, at least on the early progress because it's kinda eyesore not seeing at least one per 5 matches.Also, Zealot LARPing as SoB when? I'd love to have a set super similar to SoB. :(
>>729237737oggy was recently nerfed and a new class just came out, people are playing that one>>729237540single barrel heavy stubber is your best sniping weapon, rumbler is decent for AOE cc, grenadier gauntlet is good for the same but carries more ammo
>>729238190>oggy was recently nerfedI'll kill someone.
>>729236167the fat tranner got clowned on by literally every part of the community except Mr Estrogen. He just parrots some opinion from other players. It's always fucking funny seeing him cry when someone hits back
>>729238496tanner didn't seethe over getting shat on, his friend who he tried getting into the game kept getting told "YOU'RE A FUCKING RETARD IF YOU CAN'T PLAY X GOOD RETARD JUST USE THIS EZ BUILD RETARD" and he got burnt out from the negativity online.
>>729205990yeah but the main bad guy gets bullied by a mysterious female voice and gets cucked
>>729238676ok whatever you say, keep uniting discord coopg and reddit against you because it's a huge feat. Totally not because of your condescending tone>>729238790Wolfer being done with his troops being drunk almost makes me have pity for him. The Ben Solo effect
>>729238835D-do you actually think I'm him?
>>729238190Thanks man I'll try them out>>729237850A fair point but my issue is that I don't think I can even make it from level 13 to 14 nevermind level 29The early-game is a slog I only kept going because I found the later missions to be artistically pretty and things finally started to unlock for me. I played the game on launch and it left a bad impression. If I can use meta weapons then I can glide through the roughness and actually enjoy the game.
>>729200964Doesn't matter how many you kill,it matters if you go down.Which people CAN see.Running in alone, killing a bunch and then dying is retarded and for zealot mains.
I NEED MEDICAE
>>729200964Yeah it's terrible that people try to play better instead of circle chasing.
I have the mod just to see the amount of shit that round threw at us.
>>729239886t. sucks ass and has to be carried
>>729238219>>729238190
What should I be doing as the dog class?
>>729239580If you like playing the other classes, I suggest you try the Mk4 knife because it's one of very few headshot weapons on Ogryn.
>>729240257Not using the dog.
>>729240403But I like the dog.
>>729201039Stillborn meme
>>729237617>>729237737God, this is so true. Literally hit cap with Ogryn the other day, not liking how he felt to play, then on the LAST mission where I hit cap he suddenly starts feeling good. It's crazy how much levelling sucks in general on this game. Not even talking about the difficulty/number of enemies, killing enemies just kind of sucks until you're maxed.
>>729241295the game has a steep grind filter, it keeps retards out but at the same time keeps the playerbase dangerously low, you don't really experience the game fully until you hit 30 with all characters and get them good gear
Also: I would appreciate stats to know how well I'm doing, since the only real indicator you get in game is>How many specialists you kill>How many times you go down>>729241295One exception I've encountered so far - I can definitely feel the P2W power on Arbites. You can tell even at early levels that he's more powerful than other classes, and as a result killing specialists actually feels good since they're not taking forever to go down.>>729241512Yeah, if I'm honest I crashed out and nearly quit playing after a particularly awful run with a low level Veteran character. Didn't help that my friends took me into like a heresy level mission when I was still like lvl 4 or 5 but being downed a dozen times does get to you.
>>729200964Why does the hive scum feel boring to play?
>>729240442Don't listen to him, dog is OP, the entire class is OP.Use your shotgun and shockstick and win.
Because the game isn't about killing, it's about teamwork. Just look at Helldivers. People completely going off course and abandoning the objective, fucking the whole team, just to lay in a field somewhere and kill guys that are no threat.
Also, I don't think giving players kill counts will necessarily cause toxicity. I also play a ton of helldivers 2 with friends and randoms and I can't really think of any times people were being toxic because of stats. And that game gives you EVERYTHING, kills and friendlies killed and accuracy etc etc. And even highlights the best in each category.I think making it so that you have more to worry about than the number of kills is probably why. HD2 most of the time you're trying to AVOID enemies since more bads makes objectives harder to complete.
