pirate bros, our responses?
I just don't want to pay
>>729207903I don't buy any games unless it has already proven it was worth my time, and if you're not going to give me the opportunity to do that with a sizable demo, then I will pirate it. And if I don't like your game, I'm not buying it.Simple as that. Too many games these days skimp out on demos and bullshit around during the first few hours to force you out of the refund period. Until the game industry stops being scummy (in other words, never), I will continue to sail the high seas.
I pirate the GOTY games too, who cares
dont care. i will never pay money for a game. cry more about it faggot.im trans btw
>there are plenty of waysyeah its called a real demo, if you want to people buy your game make a real demo and make it available in time for one of the seasonal next fests.
>>729207931this is the only valid reason. when pirates start doing mental backflips and pretending they are doing a moral good, they look retarded. just be honest and say you are a gibs me dat nigger.
>>729207903>I can go to the bookstore/library>I can pick your book off the shelf>I can read the first 1/3rd of the book if not the entire thing in the store>I can put the book back on the shelf after deciding its not for meSociety has deemed this Okay!>I can rent your movie and decide if it is worth buying>I put it back on the shelf if I decide it's not for meSociety has deemed this Okay!> Videogame developers including indie tell each other its not worth putting out a demo>It's harder and most people who play demos will just not buy the game >likely to make them not buy the game at all>so just dont offer a demo>but dont pirate the game bro>no yoiu cant try it out without purchasing it!>DONT YOU KNOW TRYING SOMETHING BEFORE YOU USE IT IS A CRIME>STOLEN PROPERTY>JUST WATCH A TRAILER>SEEING A STREAMERS GAMEPLAY IS THE SAME AS EXPERIENCING TI YOURSELF OKAY?>YOU DONT NEED A FUCKING DEMO>>REEEEEEEEE YOU MUST USE YOUR LIMITED STEAM REFUNDS ON MY GAME SO YOU RUN OUT AND THEY STOP APPROVING YOUSomehow this is wrong for society to do?
>>729210138you seem mad
>>729207903Lots of businesses let you try out their product before you decide to purchase it. Bakeries put out small pieces of their bread for customers to try. Furniture stores have floor goods to try out, same with hardware stores. Music store often let you demo the music you want to buy. Games too often have demos, but for some reason the big companies have stopped releasing them.
>>729211140i played the pragmata demo the other day
>>729207903make a good demo or shut up>b-but you can refundshut up
>>729211221Capcom do seem to like releasing demos, so it must work for them. Hopefully other big companies take note and follow suit.
>>729207903items in a store are finite in quantity, software is not.
>>729211418Pretty much every H-game on dlsite has a demo, too.
>>729207903>pirate a game>it still exist in the store and nothing's missing????????????????????
>>729207903most developers would rather you play their game than ignore their gamethere is more nuance to this conversation but that is the conclusion of it
>>729211008But he is right
>>729210138>Can't play board/puzzlegames without paying or putting in work to replicate the originalSociety has fallen
Even if I have a great time with a game I pirated I don’t buy it after the fact. I simply do not care. AAA kikes don’t deserve money for dogshit, and indie tranny devs don’t deserve anything either.
>>729212248Why are you a poor anti-social subhuman
>"steal">"piracy"Moralfags are useless creatures.I participate in filesharing because it enriches my life as an student and ACG enthusiast. It is also literally the only mechanism for competition in today's landscape, where through aggressive lobbying and political fundraising copyright has stretched far beyond the simple right-to-print, creating aggressive cultural landlords intent on expanding their monopoly powers indefinitely.Filesharing as an enthusiast activity encourages innovation and development in the arts.Of course I pay for games, disks and books whenever possible, especially towards smaller publishers and artists. I'm not retarded and understand it is in my best interest to financially participate, but I will never not acknowledge the reality of the situation or give up choice.I think people should signal their purity less and talk to every industry about the DMCA, DRM, rising prices and constant layoffs, creative bankruptcy, consolidation more.
>>729212218That's what local game stores are for you RETARD
>>729212276Why are you such cuckold for corporate kike cock?
If I don't own the game when I purchase it then it's not stealing when I pirate it
>>729207903interesting indeed.lets see cjavan9s other posts.
>you shouldn't pirate>why?>YOU JUST SHOULDN'T OKAY?!Why can they never give a reason?
Oh cjanvan9 you gay boy.
>>729208645>cry more about it faggot.Hey what the fuck, you can't say->im trans btwOh. My apologies, ma'am. You have the f-slur pass
>>729212748>anti-piracy>faggotYou can't make this shit up
>>729212541Steam is the best reason why I pirate
>>729212748>>729212791Oh so HE can plunder booty but I can't, huh
r*ddit screencaps should be a permaban
>>729207903>I stole something from a storeI procured a copy. No merchandise was stolen, I didn't break in the dev house to steal the source code.
>>729212698>>YOU JUST SHOULDN'T OKAY?!No one ever says this.They explain the economics involved. The fact that it's depriving people of income and therefore the ability to feed their children. It prevents the company from being able to finance future endeavors. It draws comparisons to slavery as both involve involuntary labor without compensation.Literally all you have is "I don't care about harms I cause other people"
>>729212909Copying the source code from a dev isn't stealing
>>729212748>bootlicker also takes it in the ass (bottom)This dude has aids and was molested by his uncle.
>>729212909I suppose it's comparable to knowingly using counterfeit money that someone else gave you
>>729212748This is why I can't stand anywhere without even a slim veil of anonymity. You don't need to know what other threads I post in.>just make loads of throwaway accountsWay too much fucking effort.
>>729212909By this same logic if someone cleans out your bank account you have nothing to complain about. There was no physical money taken from you. Nobody broke into your house. All they did is modify some data held on a server somewhere. Where's the harm?
>>729212089and you saved their bandwidth
>>729207903don't care still going to pirate
>>729207903thanks for the lecture but i'm still pirating
>>729212930>Literally all you have is "I don't care about harms I cause other people"They don't actually care. It's always about what harms "me, me, me" from them. They'll only act like they care about the industry if it at the same time protects their bottom line. These people don'r actually have any morals they just pretend they do so they can get what they want.
>>729212541It's a theft of services you dumb fuck.
>>729213332Steam is providing the service, if anything.
>>729207903I only pirate games that use Gen AI in the creative process. Like games from Larian studios
>>729212843lmao
>>729212995>All they did is modify some data held on a server somewhere.Pirating makes a copy and doesn't affect the original in any way THOUGHIt'd be more like someone copied my amount of money and added it to their own
>>729213384you being able to play the game is the service
>>729213625>It'd be more like someone copied my amount of money and added it to their ownThat is also stealing money from you because it devalues your money by inflating the currency.
>>729210138you seem right
>>729213332how the fuck do you steal a service
>instead of pirating a bad game you should just not get it at allwhy does he care, what difference does it make?
>>729213914>call an uber>he completes his task>you don't pay himYeah totally not theft bro, totally legal
>>729213914by being insistent
>>729213914By not paying for it. Are you unfamiliar with the concept of a service?
>>729209161This or if it's more convenient to play the game that way. Like I'm not going to import some super expensive game and hardware required to play it unless I want to tinker with retro stuff. It's the same for shows for me, I don't think I've ever bought something that I watched after pirating it
>>729207903I pirate games because I'm Indian.
>>729207903Just because a game is being sold for 70 or 80 fucking dollars doesn't mean I have to buy it. Even if a game isn't mediocre or plain bad doesn't mean the people who made it deserve money for it. There are plenty of ways to find out if a game is good for you before buying it, and pirating it is one of the most effective. Basically what I'm saying is: I borrowed a book from a library, but instead of keeping that singular book, I somehow generated a copy of it, and then kept it for an indiscriminate amount of time.
>>729207903I couldnt care less what this retard thinks. I'll pirate whatever I want. >>729212995TIL taking money from a bank account is the same as copying a file from HDD A to HDD B
>>729213914you're so brown it hurts
>>729213741that doesn't make any sense, if I steal a loaf of bread or a piece of clothing I'm stealing a product, not a service>you being able to eat/wear that is the servicenot how it works, the service would be the store clerk letting me try a shirt (free service), or a dry cleaner washing it for me (paid service)
>>729214279You're so gay it hurts>>729212748
>>729214327Technically, due to the way DRM works, digital games are a service as opposed to a product the way a PS2 disc is. If a dev wants, they can remotely take away your ability to play your PC games at any time through patches. That means, legally speaking, it's a service, which is why you sign an agreement at the beginning
>>729214675physical discs on modern consoles operate in the same way. they can patch the console's software to remove features and restrict access to your physical games if they wanted to. you could still get around it with modding, perhaps, but at that point it's the equivalent of what a pirate does.
>>729214675I see what you mean now, and I hate it
>>729212930>The fact that it's depriving people of income and therefore the ability to feed their childrenNobody cares where i get money from to buy their shit and i don't care about their personal woes.>It prevents the company from being able to finance future endeavorsNone of the money you pay is used to finance future endeavors, that is almost entirely on publishers and loans to do, your money are return on investment at best for small teams, literally crickets for big ones as their salary is not impacted at all by success of the game.>It draws comparisons to slavery as both involve involuntary labor without compensationThey are doing it voluntarily though, nobody put gun to their heads and told them to make shitty videogames.
>>729207903my response is why would I even wanna pirate a shit game?
Because demos no longer really exist, I pirate to try the game, and I'll pay for it if I like it. In the 20 years since I have implemented this policy, I have bought exactly one game.
>>729212843Fucking hell anon I'm drinking
>>729207903>shareholder value must go up!I see why the jews call us cattle. The devs are payed on hours worked either way or are just on salary. And indie games get abandoned most of the time regardless if the tard making it got money or not. So I'm just gonna pirate.
>>729207903no intended purchase, therefore no loss revenue from the developer
I pirate some videogames and I buy some videogames. There's no logic to it only convenience for me
>>729207903Who cares? Pirating is a net benefit for basically everyone.Devs get free word-of-mouth advertisementPublishers don't lose any profit because pirates aren't customersBuyers get to demo games and buy what they actually likePeople who can't buy games (poor, disabled, thirdies under region locks or censorship regimes, etc.) get much-needed entertainmentArchivists get to keep their games and preserve history that DRM would otherwise eventually destroyCrackers get to practice coding which helps them get/keep jobsThe only people who don't benefit are retarded shareholders and shareholders deserve nothing.
>>729207903The store was passing out free samples of a product I liked, so I bought some of that product and told my friends about it. The brand decided that me getting something for free was a negligible cost when compared to advertising, because unlike major publishers they can maintain an actual track record and a profitable business.Piracy is not a problem unless your business sucks, as is the case with most modern "publishers" who don't actually publish anything (if a game releases exclusively on Steam or other digital storefronts, then those storefronts are the publisher) and are just investors.
>>729207903if purchasing a game is just a license to play it on their terms then pirate is moral and ethical.
why would I pay for something I can get for free
>>729207903It's funny how much thiefs try justify their actions. You just want to steal stuff.
>>729219114Mindset of a criminal. Try saying that when Nintendo death squad busts down your door
>>729219221why would I play a nintendo game
>>729218821Holy non-sequitur, Batman!
buying is not owningtherefore piracy is not theft
>>729219241Who said anything about playing?
how did they get every one of buds buds out of the vault with such a long climb up the pipe?Did they put the best climbers at the bottom so they could get themselves up and get the weakest members up first?
I pirate games and I am under no illusion that it is morally right to do so. I think justifying it is weak-minded. Just accept that you are doing something immoral.
>if renting is no owning, theft is no stealing
>>729207903I am a vanta balck gorilla nigger so this rhetoric doesn't register
It's Christmas and /v/ goes to reddit to deliberately look for anti-piracy posts to post baits hereSad
>>729212930>depriving people of incomeAre you implying there was any scenario where I was going to give them any money at all? If I didnt play games I would simply do something else. You cant deprive someone of something that was never going to happen.
>>729211008And you seem like a faggot. What's your point?
>>729219453>Are you implying there was any scenario where I was going to give them any money at all?not every pirated game would have otherwise been a sale, but it is implausible to believe that you would have never legally purchased one of the games you have pirated if piracy was not available to you and making any other argument is intellectually dishonest
>>729207903Just installed Spider-Man 2 2004, Shadow Hearts, Crimson Sea 1+2, RE3 1999, God Hand and RE Outbreak on my Deck. That's my response.
>>729213332A service which bears no similarity to any other type of service, and is in fact suspiciously like a one-time purchase of a product
Unless you believe that software development is a profession where someone's labor is worthless, pirating software is taking advantage of someone else's labor without compensation, and is inherently wrong.You can do all the mental gymnastics you want and hide behind the semantics of what is "theft" but in your little retard hearts, you know it's true.
>>729207903Honest questionDoes E33 have a demo?
>>729219849i do, yeahi just dont care>but muh aaa corporation property!lmao stay mad
>>729207903When you steal something from a store, you're guaranteed to benefit from it. When you "steal" a game, big chance you'll LOSE BRAIN CELLS AND TIME. Now if I lose money on top of all of this - I would just be an idiot. I'd be a god damn fucking idiot and I'll never forgive myself So this comparison is untrue and debased, the slop is thick and it's only getting thicker, that's why Jesus Christ is my nigger
>>729220076>I can steal booze and tobacco because they bad!
>>729207903Don't careshare magnet linkdownload again
>>729219849Most game devs spend 80% of their time making a game on Twitter or Bluesky talking about hating us. I couldn't care any less if they starved.
I pirate cause the devs think they're entitled to my money before they finish the game.>early access title>unoptimized buggy release>unfinished product with roadmapsyeah, nah fuck you
>>729219849Corporations are inherently exploitative and have "legally" stolen money from me on multiple occasions. Why should I place value on their labor if they place no value on mine?
>>729220118Actually retarded, booze and tobacco isn't bad if you enjoy booze and tobacco, fucking retard
>>729207903sharing is caring
>>729212930>The fact that it's depriving people of incomethis "fact" is enfirely made up
>>729219849Companies care about their money and I care about mine. That's why they pay little and I pirate.
>>729207903I'll do whatever I want fag
>>729207903I say suck my schlong my dingidy dong my ding ding dong my fat schlong
So we're starting threads with r*ddit posts now?This board is so dead.
>>729207931I just don't want to pay the people I don't like
>>729220428
>>729209161This is cope
>>729222167this is unc cope
>>729207903Piracy is not stealing, more like cloning.
>>729211140>but for some reason the big companies have stopped releasing them.The stats consistently showed demos reduce sales, that's why. Turns out making a good trailer is easier than making a good game.
>>729207903>>729212748man, it's christmas and ragebait meaningless thread is still up. 4chan is really dying
>>729207903just pirated totk and then gave it a 0 score on metaseethe and kys, cultendie
>>729214051>clone a uber out of the aether >he takes you to niggerville >dont need to pay cause he (the guy, the car) was pirated and he returns to your phone like a pakimon going back to the pokeball Uber piracy
>>729209161Yeah 100%.If something can be had for free and if doesnt hurt anyone, go for it.This isnt a poor thing, its the other way around. Poor people tend to overpay for shit because they're retarded and the fact that some people think that they can afford a 60,- video game makes them not poor tells you how poor they really are.
>>729212843>implying he's not the one getting plunderedprobably why he's so mad too
