Why is that, /v/?
They made one in 2017 called Hollow Kngiht
>>729211490Monster Hunter
Didn't a new wizardry just come out?You don't get a lot of dungeon crawlers nowadays because the genre demands that the game must be hard and unforgiving, difficulty which turns most casuals off.
>>729211490
>>729211702>Didn't a new wizardry just come out?Gachashit isn't video games.
>dungeon overflowing with rancid monsters>build town 100 feet away from it
>>729211860Towns like that sprout up to cater to the adventurers who come to delve into the dungeon.
Because not all video games need to be exactly the same.
>>729211542Flopow kniggert
>>729211730can't believe black american slaves invented that.
But that is how Silksong works. And damn near any game that staples "roguelite/roguelike" on it. They are still coming out all the time. It's probably more popular now than it has been in the past.
WHERE IS IT ATLUS YOU FUCKS
Because this was a cheap excuse to do 100 identical floors and call it a video game
>>729211542>>729212081Why don't Hollow Knight redditors know shit about video games?
>>729212006Yes they do and I am tired of pretending they dontAny game that does not cater to my subjective hyper niche interests is objectively bad
half of roguelikes tend to have this so i have 0 clue what you're on about, streets of rogue, hollow knight, enter the gungeon etc
>build town on top of dungeon>treat it as a food resource node
>>729211490Graveyard Keeper
>>729211490what game is actually like this besides diablo 1?
>>729211490Din's legacy isnt that old.
>>729211490read my next reply>>729212082Its canceled and irrelevant BUT i got something better for you i found recently. In January Touhou Labyrinth 3 releases. There is a ~10 hour demo on steam. It is the evolution of Etrian. The girls are cute and the battle system is way better. Give it a try. Its already way better than 2hu lab2 which was already pretty good. Merry Christmas anons.
>>729212285etrian odyssey
>>729211860>Point of interest attracts adventures >Better open up an inn and a general store>Some merchant sets up a shop/trading lost slurping up monster loot at bargain prices>Etc etc etc ...It's honestly not too much of a stretch, most of America's towns was founded similarly this way
>>729212285WizardryEtrian OdysseyAzure Dreams
Why would you want to explore a cool old labyrinth when you could go out into the vast fields of fucking nothing in an open world game?
>>729211490PLEASELISTEN TO ME
>>729211860>dungeon is overflowing with monsters>secure a settlement outside the one exit so you can gank level 1 goblins as they come out the front door and prevent them from encroaching on lands beyond the dungeon
>>729212081It doesn't count because it doesn't fit my narrativeI have the authority so I'm the one deciding if it counts or not,
>>729212615In real life it wouldn't be level 1 monsters coming out
>>729212081huh don't you go up in silksong?
>>729212285dark cloudfate
there's plenty of dungeon crawlers, but I don't get the appeal of the specific kind described by OP it sounds like the kind of thing that you'd only make in a roguelike nowadays, for example Barony is kinda like that minus the possibility to visit the surface
mega dungeon layout>Catacombs>Deeper catacombs (crypt)>Caves with some glowing crystals or mushrooms>Giant fortress underground with lore dumps>Spider liar >Fire caves>Underground fortress redux with advanced technology >literally hell>Final Boss
>>729212832kino every time
>>729212285King's Field series
>>729212832i love the trope>go into cave>it's cave sized>continue through dungeon>still normal sized>suddenly underground cave that's like 12,000 feet tall with 0 explanationi fucking love weird abyss'.
>>729212696It's literally not how Silksong works but you retards just try to bruteforce your 2006 flash game into every possible topic.
Imagine if dungeons were real but nobody could explore them because the government wouldn't let you
>>729212832>>Underground fortress redux with advanced technologyi love this shit in particular
>>729212756I mean that'd depend on a lot of factors. Like presuming there's a reason for monsters to exist in the toward and for there to be a gradient between their "levels".Also if a level 99 monster were to break out a outpost at the top of the dungeon would be just as if not more important.
Home...
>>729212119boss baby vibes
>>729212285
>>729212952That sounds like the start to some Korean Manwa slop.
>>729212285The one that did it first, Angband.https://rephial.org/
This is better.
>get to the bottom of the dungeon>find Tokyo
For me it's "modern day" crawlers where the dungeons are abandoned WW2 bunkers
Surface, my beloved.
>>729212952They are & that's why. During the cold war, vast bunker networks for politicians & their families were excavated at taxpayer expense. When it became clear nobody was gonna use nukes, to save on maintenance & prevent tweakers from moving in, those bunkers were pumped full of cement.
>>729212756you'd want to secure the choke point regardless of the monster level if possible to stop them getting a foothold in the outside world and having constant backup from stuff coming out the dungeon
>>729212285Torchlight series
>>729213093Boy I'm sure they wish they hadn't filled them with cement so early now huh.
>>729213060based
>>729211490or do you prefer
>>729213140They have their own deep underground cities now.
>>729213164yes
>>729211860monsters stay inside, never come into town,town caters to adventurers becoming a market center
>>729213164nah thats gay
>>729212223God, the things I'd do for a full party Dungeon Meshi CRPG. I love that setting.
>>729213164I tried Baroque the other day30 minutes and I checked out
>>729213164Top level is heaven zone with sun and angel iconography everywhere
>>729213164
>>729213164https://mangadex.org/title/b05918e4-fb1a-4b10-a919-eaecf00fd7dd/tower-dungeon
>>729213164Only if it goes to the moon or something equally out of this world.
>>729213231it goes to Tokyo
>>729212756>in real life
>>729213164>>729213231>open up door halfway up the tower>now on the base level of the tower in an entirely different world
>>729213196just play wizardry dude
>>729213187You have AGP and make is everyone else's problem.
>>729213285SaGa?
>>729213196I don't give a fuck what the genre is I just want a well done meshi game
>>729213367Yeah
>>729213383that game was great, good concept for a remake imo
>>729213062A cold war bunker would probably make more sense. Some government in the soviet block threw a bunch of money at some questionable research but after a couple decades all the people involved are gone and the current government is just as horrified of what they find as any outside observer.
>>729213434Yeah I guess. It's just that WW2 bunkers are a common trope in japanese non fantasy RPGs, but soviet bunkers sound even cooler.
>>729213313???
>>729213164Yes, but with a "balcony", enormously huge one in the middle of the tower. When players reach it, they can build their own estate there, customize it however they want. There they can spend time with companions, enjoy cozy atmosphere of the estate, admire views of the city below and the upper part of the tower above...
>>729213375Japs don't make good games anymore.Enjoy you gacha crossovers.
>>729211490They're boring
>>729213164>>729211490BOTHdeep depth + impossibly high tower
>>729212812The appeal is you don't have story faggotry shitting everything up.
>>729212812>but I don't get the appeal of the specific kind described by OPIt's fun to treat the dungeon like a very long extended expedition. You trek as far as you can go, chart what you can (and yes you should be drawing your own map with graph paper) and then get out before it's too late. You repeat as you get stronger, more confident, and become a master of exploration.
>>729212756There aren't RPG levels in real life.
>decend through dungeon>hours later come out the bottom in modern cityOne of the peak moments in gaming.
>>729213774Every game in the series takes place in the same city and somehow it was still a surprise to me.
>>729212952>anon wants to be hardcore but his mom says no
>>729212756>what are infantry and scouts
>>729213209this makes me really mad. baroque is awesome. such a cool soundtrack too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRXUEH0ijdkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy1IP4C-MTkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6N2ZcKJe84
>>729213757for some reason you are making me want to get back into ToME, despite it being different from what you are describing
>>729212952
>big 25>wizardry revived and thriving>eo killed and desecrated into a persona cloneIt is what it is
>>729212285Evolution: the world of sacred device
>>729213313You're indian.
>>729211490games for this feel that are sci-fi instead of fantasy?
>>729213920see>>729213869
>>729212285Final Fantasy
>>729213298CRPGs are the natural evolution of the autistic corridor walking genre.
>>729213975SaGa
Breath of Fire V does this perfectly. The problem with going up instead of down is there is a visual representation of the end. When you're going down you have no idea how deep it could go, if you are close to your goal and whether you can get to it. BoFV gives you your depth at all times but also has a counter to game over working against you so you really don't know if you will make it.
>>729211490Isn’t this Diablo 1?
>>729214097it's a diagram copied directly from the diablo 1 design document
>>729212518Azure Dreams was such a good game. There's just nothing quite like it. Most games like it go too hard into the roguelike aspect and cut out too much or all of the town building and dating sim aspects.
>>729212285The legend of Zelda
>>729214231Retard
>>729212285phantasy star online kinda
>>729212082At least Himukai is in on Cantarella.
>>729213572Sounds like dogshit
>>729213164the real GOAT
>>729214450excellantnow add gacha girls and we can make some real money!!!
>>729213774SMT IV my beloved
>>729214450make this
>>729212832So basically Diablo 1?
>>729212774
>>729212285Brand New Adventure in Ehrgeiz.
>>729212285Super Mario World
>>729212285Stardew Valley. There are actually 3 different dungeons
>>729212285Persona 3, 4 and 5.
>>729212285pokemon mystery dungeon
>>729211490it really is Peak design
>>729211490When will they start making games like this?
>>729213224Nice!For me, it's Let's Manage the Tower!https://mangadex.org/title/23a84f79-368c-44ca-8a8f-57103b9a5628/tou-no-kanri-o-shitemiyou
>>729217071they already make plenty of asset flips tho
Megaman Legends
>>729217304All dungeon crawlers are asset flips. I'm talking about a 3D dungeon maze where rooms are constantly being reshuffled
>>729215289Australian Diablo 1?
>>729211490Play Tower of Time
>>729212285Alvorra TacticsTemple of Elemental Evil
>>729212285That is almost exactly Kings Field 4.
>>729213093China has a big thing with that these days.
This is still your basic hub world game. Now there are just more hubs and spread out dungeons
>>729212952literally the sewers
>>729211490This sorely needs 3 miles of empty fields and crafting materials between the town and the dungeon
>>729212832you forgot the Cathedral that sits on top of the catacombs.
>>729219208Thank god Elden Ring didn't have Dark Souls's shit overworld. Imagine replacing Liurnia with 50 miles of damp brick tunnels and hallways.
>>729212756>anon learns video games are not real
People aren't interested in murderhobo slaughterhouse games anymore. They want richer, story-driven experiences with base building and some orc they can fuck.
>>729213164Gotta give people a reason to climb the tower, at least put some go karts or a ferris wheel on top of it.
>>729219516console normalfags out of my board
>>729213026what do you do in this game
>>729214616kinoooooooooooo
>>729217071
love this shitgon get me Dungeon Antiqua 2 when it comes outhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4005090/Dungeon_Antiqua_2/
>>729219960>console normalfags>while talking about a console franchise by a console developer
>>729213540WW2 bunkers are a popular trope because they're real and you can visit them. There's an intact nazi tunnel network in Poland that runs for miles underground, basically intact because it was abandoned without a fight. Polish govt turned it into a tourist attraction.
>>729217071Bro just open up Blender
>>729213196For me it is Izutsumi
>>729213164I wish they'd make a real sequel to Azure Dreams
>>729212285SMT4
>>729211490This is good game design.Dungeon crawls are awesome fun. More games need to be like this.
>>729213060This, but it's a hospital instead of mayor's house.
>>729211490this is just a dungeon crawler.
>>729221724With a town
>>729213060Epsteins house, amirite?
>>729211490Shining Force was too popular.
>>729211490Thread theme, you forgot about the fucking thread background musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFOfSlDCwYw>>729221092Based, any other choice is the wrong choice
>>729212285Shining in the Darkness
>>729213164How about a game with both.
>>729213164Ys
>>729211860People in our world still build houses near volcanos.
>>729212343Fuck, I just got shilled into wishlisting a game
>>729211490Have you tried playing one of 50k rogue-lites/likes on Steam?
>>729212285Dunno if this counts, but first Pillars of Eternity has a dungeon like that under that fort that you conquer.
>>729211860>a volcano overflowing with burning lava>build a city ON TOP OF IT
So did the monsters come first, or the settlement
>>729223237Depends on the game specifically, in Wizardry 1 the dungeon is the artificial creation of Werdna in Etrian Odyssesy the dungeons are mysterious biomes that were recently discovered and you have to figure out the mystery of.
I want to raid Nazarick so much, /v/ros....
>>729212079and then whites used it to destroy wakanda
>>729222007kbity
>>729211490Too generic
>>729211490There's a Tower of babel-esque variant of this where the whole thing is a megastructure and every five floors or so, the Ground Floor" is repeated to represent a unique town/ecosystem as its strata or something.Anyone have it? I remember it being posted around /vrpg/ a couple of times.
>>729211490Last one I played that was like this was... I think it was called FATE.It's neat to play these for a few hours but they get boring real quick when the novelty wears off.
>>729223791Sword Art Online :)
>>729223869Aincrad is an unironically pretty cool setting for a game and I'm tired of people pretending it isn't because youtubers made everything SAO-related an easy punching bag for midwits.
>>729213164>Durlag's Tower>Watcher's KeepGod, yes. These are too rare for how good they are.
>>729211490cause they're mostly japanese doujin games at this point
>>729211490They made 1000 Diablo clones in the 2000’s
>>729212343will i like it if i don't know what touhou is about? i just want a fun crawling experience
>>729223938But SAO is bad, Accel World is better. And of course pieces of SAO on their own are cool, but that's just looking at things in a vacuum - alot of narou-kei settings would be cool for a video game.
>>729211490Any good city needs one dungeon for each type of pilgrimage>Descending down>Climbing up>Spread out randomly>Aligned along a trail>Following a series of abstract instructions
>>729211490take me back
>>729213830>>729213209Baroque is absolute kino
>>729223869SAO is quite literally the malign cancerous tumor that killed anime
>>729212832>Spider liarSorry, not possible in current year. Think of the Arachnophobes!
>>729211490Who cares. I still play Angband and Azure Dreams every few years.
>>729224282Neither did i
That's all I need
Does Arx Fatalis count?
>>729212343>Touhou Labyrinth 3These games are standalone, aren't they?
>>729220491>Polish govt turned it into a tourist attraction.They should pay licensing fees to Germany
>>729211490Diablo 1 is literally a roguelite. The genre is very popular.
>>729211490Being able to freely warp back to town at any moment kind of defeats the purpose of the dungeon.
>>729225258>Azure DreamsAny tips?
>>729213861based Evolution enjoyer
>>729215313Ehrgeiz was such a gem, who the fuck thinks to stick a full-on dungeon crawler in a fighting game with final fantasy characters?
>>729225378True. Labyrinth of Galleria did it but everyone hated the 3000 floor tower. Not me though.>>729225518Yes
>>729213836all red-blooded human men have the spirit of exploration and discovery tucked away in their soul somewhere. Sometimes a good enough videogame can draw that out and inspire you to follow in the steps of your ancestors
>>729211490That's boring.I want to explore a ginormous chasm filled with wonders and dangerous creatures where the deeper you go the more insane you become and can never go back up (unless some trickery).
>>729213164I love this aesthetic.
>>729212952part of the reason I'm working to lose weight and get in shape is so I can do urban exploration on decrepit/abandoned buildings and different areas. Probably won't happen until late 2026, but it's the goal
>>729213061besides EO and Metaphor what games do this?
>>729212285megaman legends>>729213049based unc
>>729212343fuck me, guess I'll give the demo a try. Not a fan of touhouslop though... do you need to have played the first 2 games before this one?
>>729213164every single Falcom game of which there are over 9000
>>729212285Ys I and Ys Origin if you replace the dungeon with a tower. DMC 3 also does this, actually, probably quite a few more.
>>729212343>Touhou Labyrinth 3uhh...gross. No thanks, I will NOT be supporting ANY dev that uses gen ai
>>729226369Absolute genius madlads, that's who.
>>729226553>>729226647
>>729212034wow, 2 funi super ultimate kek II turbo
>>729213164That's the stuff.
>>729211860>American enters the chatGuess how people decided where towns would go before urban planning
the real problem is that with time these dungeons started being procedurally generated and just felt like the devs were deliberately wasting your time with content they hadn't even made themselves. there's nothing i hate more than that feeling of what's even the point of this
>>729213164>>729211490The above & below dual dungeon dual-towns.
>>729212812Play stardew valley, you will get it
>>729227247stardew fucking sucks, I don't get why people felate it so mcuh
>>729227009Wherever there were the fewest negros?
>>729227136SMT 2 did this and I fucking loathed it.But then again SNES SMT is fucking shit
