Wha;t's behind this.... "sort of thing"... ?
>Durr, massa why da fraaayed chickin no be seeeezn'd enuff?>Well actually it's a boiled egg, and it's best to eat with jusy a bit of salt->I DUN GETSIT MASSA, WHY NAAAH SEEZNUN'S?>It's a different thing entirely, Tray'von'quisha, it's appreciated for a completely different flavor profile->WHY YA WYPIPO BE NAH SEEEZNUN MASSA, MHMMMMM
>>729215016Gem.
>>729214837Left: a hobbyistRight: an art teamhope that clears this up
>>729214837Because the random arcade game was still AA/AAA of the time with at least 30 devs while left is a solo game.
>>729214837Undertale's simplicity is its strength.Everything on the left is immediately identifiable, zero clutter or unnecessary detail. The characters have distinct designs and silhouettes and stand out from the background, just detailed enough to have personality but simple enough for anyone to draw.
>>729214837You've been making these threads for longer than Undertale's time of development. If you spent your time actually working on a craft, then you could make your own game with good pixel art.
>>729214837Some kind of autistic ranting at faceless people on the internet. I'm not really sure what the point is either.
>>729215170Undertale, or whatever it's called, was worked on by a group of 18 people, according to its own wiki.
>>729215635That's deltarune.Undertale had Toby doing pretty much everything, Temmie making some art assets, and some backer rewards designing some monsters.
>>729215635>>729215725Interesting. The game on the right in the OP only had 15 people behind it and still looks better than deltatroon
>Underhomo made by 18 jewish trannies>LUDO Slug 1 (Metal Slug 1) was made by 12 Japanese niggasWhat the fuck happened?
>>729216049Millennial artists.
>>729216049>JapaneseThis, even in good ol arcade days western 2d looked like shit compared to stuff nips had on neo geo
>>729215016>Ummmmmm it's SUPPOSED to look like shit? Duh lol
>>729216049Feminism.
Toby Fox is one of the OG Earthbound autists. So it looks like Earthbound. Also you cannot go by arcades because Splatterhouse 88 looks nothing like the Splatterhouse Wanpaku Graffiti game later released on NES. Arcades used to be the graphical peak.
>>729214837You graphic fags suck
>>729214837Bro those skyscrapers are paper thin
>>729216863*artstyle fags
>>729214837>kaine
>>729216862Earthbound still looks better than undertroon beitalhoweverthough.
>>729216862>So it looks like EarthboundIt doesn't
cherry picking is lame and gay
>>729216976>>729216967Well I was gonna say M1 but the trees in the OP are a lot more like M2. I would say Undertale looks generally more like M1. I still think it doesn't look great but I do think that was the intent.
>>729215151It doesn't
>>729214837Professionally made game which included programmers and artists vs a homemade game made by 1 person that spans multiple hours.Oh also one is an arcade game that had like 4 backgrounds that just cycled.
>>729217174>one is an arcade game that had like 4 backgrounds that cycledNormalniggers believe that every arcade game is pacman. Sickening. How retarded can you be?
>>729217174Arcade games take way longer and more effort to make no matter how you spin it
>>729217174>had like 4 backgrounds that just cycledObjectively false. Take a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrlc5wVu8Xs
>>729217290Now asked these same pixel artists to compose an epic soundtrack, design the gameplay, program the game and write the story.
>>729217865He did. At least take the time to Google the game I posted
>>729217290Source on pic?
>>729214837anon experiences programmer art for the first time
Toby made Undertale as a potboiler, if you want to see better pixel art try Deltarune
>>729217923I think he was talking about the game in OP, but the one you posted really doesn't look good at all (still better than Underkek but that's a low bar)
>>729214837Foids subculture bitches and trannies lapping up the left
Every single Techno Soft game makes tobyslop look like pure dogwater
>>729216049>art direction thenlets make this look as good as we can>art direction nowlets make it look like shit and include fags and furries so trannies on twitter can draw it for free marketingall the effort went in to the music.
>>729218008Fight n rage brother>>729218143Yeah ok
>>729218008Looks like Fight N Rage. >>729218559I think limits do push developers to do better. The only modern limit I can think of is budget now. Also why lump furries in? They are too big to fall now as evidenced by Zootopia 2. Seriously why are they always so wealthy.
>>729214837>Wha;t'sfilter evasion or fat fingered OP? you decide
>>729218967>"it has coombait portraits so it's good">meanwhile in the actual game
>>729215170>solo game
>>729216049For Metal Slug, as an arcade game, SNK had to fully commit to visual spectacle in order to catch the eyes of kids roaming arcades so they'd pay to play their games instead of other arcade games, thus Metal Slug's gorgeous sprite work was born.For Undertale, Toby didn't have to give a shit because he already had established fans who would slurp up anything he produced from the MOTHER and Homestuck fandoms, and everyone else getting hooked based on the subversive premise of Undertale or the furbait characters (and then in addition the Tumblr Sexyman Archetype characters) was a quaint bonus.
>>729217923If you booted up the game at least once then you would have know the programmer didn't do the soundtrack because the fucking composer has his own splash screen when you start up the game...
still seething about a game released 10 years ago kek
>>729219971Well, yes, because it defined modern indieslop due to its sheer success, the same way BotW defined modern Nintendo due to its sheer success.
>>729219251he included a question mark in the post so it would be a completely pointless attempt at dodging filters
>>729220025>because it defined modern indieslop such as?
>>729214837The only thing people truly care about when it comes to vidya is the story.Gameplay? Graphics? Completely worthless.Also zoomers will never play a game released before 2015 unless it's gigapopular.
>>729220490All the tranny games about depression and furries.
>>729214837Arcade games must be pretty shit if they could only afford paper buildings back then and not the real deal.
>>729219327Yeah? Looks great>>729219490I was waiting for someone to call me out on that, congrats. Still made everything else
>>729214837>citizen Kaine
>>729217171>being disingenuous by posting a game made by a former Capcom sprite artist
>>729214837No one considers the shit on the left good. It's literally a game for mentally ill autists, furries and trannies.
>>729221503sooo it's a game for /v/?
>>729215016Based. OP is a dumb nigga.
>>729215016fippy bippy
>>729221424Was it made by a single hobbyist or not?
>>729221738It was made by a single professional
>>729214837Now post a random SNES / GENESIS video game from 1992.
>>729214837>right made by a white/jap>left not made by a white/jap>inb4 banned for """""reasons"""""
>>729215170Zero Ranger and Devil Engine arguably look better than the arcade game on the right. Undertale's style just sucks ass because it's another minimalist indie that's supposed to have 'charm'.It's not even a terribly designed game and has some good ideas. This trannoid visual design mentality is just unforgivable.
>>729214837Last Resort was so weird, I couldn't tell if they were trying to rip off R-Type or what
>>729214837BUT DA GRAFFICKS???!!!!
>>729221894Toby Fox is white.
>>729216967Troony Fox simply lacks talent at everything. Even his music is just the three same leitmotifs over and over and over and over and over again with slightly changed instruments. Not in a way where they're properly implemented as leitmotifs into original incidental pieces, every single piece is derivative from another which makes it sound awfulAnd the writing is bad as well. What a talentless hack, hiding behind Earthbound like Alex YIIK.
>>729214837americans happened
>>729215016
>>729221789It was made as an hobby, the fact that he also worked as a professional irrelevant
>>729215016planetbvster-level trvthnvke lavnched straight from the aryan heart of agartha
>>729222613>a dish made at home by a professional chef doesn't count as a dish made by a professional
>>729215016FPBP
>>729215016It really is like that.
I mean this game came out a month ago I don't understand the point of this thread.
>>729222386Tell me the leitmotifs involved in Another Medium, My Castle Town, and A Cyber's World.You don't know shit about music. Toby Fox is a hack in a dozen ways, but musically, no, you are flatly wrong.
>>729222660>food analogy
>>729214837Correct answer is the death of CRTs
>>729215016https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/spiced_north-african_82972>BBC foods>Spiced North African-style eggs>way better than wypipo sissy eggstake this L racist
>>729222745The point of this thread is seething at Toby Fox for being a multimillionaire who lives in japan, gets his content featured in Smash, and fucked more homestuck con girl pussy than you could ever fathom. He literally won everything, of course envy is natural.
Cut to 2003>WTF WHY DOES ZELDA LOOK LIKE This CARTOONY BULLSHIT FUCK THIS SHIT
>>729222751>Another Mediumdoctor -> patient -> another medium>my castle townthe legend>a cyber's worldwelcome to the city
>>729214837>leftpassion project made by one dude with some help with great narrative and characters forever immortalized amongst annals of industry>rightsome random arcadey boomerslop where you drive a vehicle to the right and score points. generic "bing bing wahoo" formula indistinguishable from the rest, only remembered by some 40 year old losers
>>729222884>doctor -> patient -> another mediumA song undergoing revisions is not a leitmotif, anon.>the legendI'll grant this one, I suppose, my failing there.>welcome to the cityTwo songs, innately related? That's stretching the definition of "leitmotif".
>>729223015>Two songs, innately related? That's stretching the definition of "leitmotif".they literally have the same melody in them
>>729215016>It's shit on purpose
>>729222958>drive a vehicle to the rightThat's not a racing game, no. >appeal to popularity fallacylol
>>729223015>>729223050https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiou1f5nzlU:12 secondshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM8WM9hUFO8:32 secondsthey use the exact same melodyand though cyber's world comes first ingame, welcome to the city was publicly revealed first
>>729214837I feel like new game like the right seems to come out every other month now.They're always 2 hours long and forgotten immediately. Who's funding these?
>>729220738Can you name one or are you just parroting memes like brain dead npc?
>>729223050>>729223129Leitmotifs are to recur across more than two songs. How is it a leitmotif if there's only two songs? Which is the leitmotif of the other?
>>729215016>food analogy
>>729214837>Citizen KaineUndertale isn't praised for its graphics, and that random arcade game from 1992 isn't praised for its story. Also you haven't seen Citizen Kane.>>729215775Rent free>>729216049Rent free>>729216967Rent free>>729218197Rent free>>729220738Rent free>>729221503Rent free>>729222386Rent free
>>729223279lol we got one! drink!
>>729214837>No background, just black>No features on the ground, just solid colors>Weirdly highly detailed trees>Characters with no shadingWhat were they thinking? The main artist can draw like this so why did they make it look so shitty for most of it?
>>729214837If I see a modern game looking like the right I will assume it was made with AI and not buy it cause it looks too good, if it looks like left I will assume it's human made and purchase it.
>>729223474>The main artist can draw like thisNo, the sepia sequences were drawn by Temmie.
>>729223496AI still can't draw pixel art without artifacts thoughbeit.
>>729214837I think it's actually a reference to the game Off. (Sans is also a reference to the judge car shown here that I think is inspired by the Cheshire cat), but off takes place in some kind of metaphysical plane while undertale takes place in a cave you see the player fall into at the start of the game.
>>729223879You're exceedingly correct. Undertale abounds with references to OFF. Even setting aside Papyrus being designed off Dedan, Sans being Zacharie and the Judge smashed together into one character, and Chara being a child version of Sugar, the whole concept of the Genocide route is basically a reimagining of OFF, purifying the world and leaving it empty in your wake.
>>729215016Toby Fox is not your friend and does not care about you.
>>729224065Toby "Radiation" Fox was my friend and we talked on the MSPA forums
>>729215016Undertroon melties are a sight to behold.
>>729224065I am literally Toby Fox.
>>729214837I filtered out every mention of Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox and any other variations of that garbage, yet shit like this keep slipping by every once in a while.At least it's making fun of that cancer, which is good. But I still don't want to see or be reminded of this garbage at any point, so I'll just also hide this thread. But I just wanted to say that you're doing good, OP. Keep shitting on this garbage.
undertale mogs, desu.
>>729224019That's right. It's actually pretty painfully derivative in that sense. When the demo came out the big thing about the game was that characters remembered what you did in previous saves.It was a novel concept at the time but didn't end up in the final game except for just the sans fight if you lose. I guess that would be a lot more work to program though.
>>729214837left is an open ended game made by some guy in his basement, right is a linear game made by state of the art professionals of the time.its like comparing rpgmaker games to snes games.
>>729216049One japanese dev is worth 15 westoid ones
>>729223279why does referencing food make you piss and shit yourself? comment?
>>729216049>(Metal Slug 1) was made by 12 Japanese niggashuh
>>729224875It's actually 16
>>729225506>6 for design, 6 for programming, 1 sound guy and 2 for "planning" which i assume is managing staff + all the non-technical stuff>OG doom is 15 people as wellthis is the actual perfect team size and you can't convince me otherwise
