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>synergies aren't added to your log book, so you have to keep checking wikis every other room
>minimap is too transparent making it hard to see sometimes
>rooms are either nothing at all or too much with everything
>way to unlock 90% of items/weapons is from money and the only way to get more then 1-2 monies is by not getting hit by bosses which is improbable unless you're a no-life nerd
>most weapons/items suck
>at times shit is just not dodgable, especially later bosses
It's not as good as everyone says. It's a 6.5 at best and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
Also, not playing M&K on this game is like turning up the difficulty x2.
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Also, it is proto-woke.
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>>729217696
>>most weapons/items suck
bullet upgrades>>>>everything else. its isane how runs can be free wins or doomed just because you get/dont get one single bullet upgrade
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>>729217696
The lack of QoL features and some absurd design choices make this game no fun to play, there's a reason the average reviewer of this game doesn't have 100hours unlike stuff like RoR, Deal Cells.
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>option to increase the speed is locked behind an NPC you may not find for many runs
That says everything about the game's design choices.
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>>729217696
you forgot the worst part
>ammo drops only refill one weapon, but the game is super-stingy with drops unless you use a wide variety of weapons plus perfect play and it takes the ammo drop right back if you don't use it immediately
I have probably played far too many games in the wider genre, but not a single one of them managed to outright piss me off like gungeon did.
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>>729217696
>rooms were either dark with traps or just cluttered with objects instead of allowing you to just dodge and shoot
>hitbox is weird especially when you're positioned diagonally and it's possible to snag your gunside hand on a corner sometimes
>dodge roll starts up slower and recovers instantly when it should be the other way around
>its way easier to run out of ammo than it is to die and the rainbow thing doesn't make up for it because most of the items/guns suck
I thought it was okay regardless. If you jack up the auto aim it's not too bad to use twin sticks.
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>>729217696
>female playable character is called the hunter instead of the huntress
what did the devs mean by this.
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When is etg 2 coming out?
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DPS cap in a roguelite with crazy over the top weapons is a stupid idea

Let me get broken, the bosses already have too much hp
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it's good enough, but only just
you could shave 90% of the playtime off by just looking up a video of boss patterns, which is the real criminal flaw--mastering bosses are the only thing that matters, and everything else is just fluff once you've seen the templates
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>>729218204
Don’t forget the Ammo Spread pickups!
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>>729217815
explain
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>>729218810
there's women
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>>729219059
And the women get better loadouts than the men!
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>>729219175
i didn't know bullet was chick
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>>729217696
>by not getting hit by bosses which is improbable unless you're a no-life nerd
lmao

lol
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>>729217696
I like it. Lots of people hate the dps cap but the bosses are pretty fair other then the baby dragon with the big dragon fight
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Just play nuclear throne or SYNTHETIK
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>>729219484
>Just play nuclear throne
Enter the Gungeon threads without Nuclear Throne vegans shitting it up: 0
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>>729217696
I thought it was alright. Didn't unlock everything but enjoyed my time with it. 7.5/10
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>>729219484
>SYNTHETIK
I just couldnt get into it. Is the 2nd one better?
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>>729219661
Haven't played it but when it was released on early access a couple years ago it was shit on. Could be better now.
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>damage is intentionally capped on bosses to peashooter levels
>absolutely too much happening onscreen to react to with how many clunky systems you have tacked on and have to keep track of
>only four well designed bosses are bullet king, trigger twins, ammoconda and the secret blob boss, in the context (and without it, really) of this baby's first bullet hell roguelike
>pratically lied to a whole generation of redditors that it's a better nuclear throne because it has more content, a more colorful purple-orange artstyle, goes on sale more often than nuclear throne and for deeper discounts and has devolver popularity when the gameplay is SHIT
>devs lose all goodwill anyway with goofball franchising and retarded post-launch decisions in general
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>>729219484
What about this one?
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>>729220057
>absolutely too much happening onscreen to react to
>lied to a whole generation of redditors that it's a better nuclear throne
Nigger loops on nuclear throne is throw everything in a small map and pray
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>>729219484
Play Odinfall.
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2154240/Odinfall/
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>>729220604
>early access
I will never buy a game that does this
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>>729219568
i havent played nuclear throne but gungeon is complete dogshit, thats an irrefutable fact
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>>729220234
>bigmode
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>>729219661
2nd one is a solid sequel now, theres still the issue of the game raping your fps post loop, and i think theres a memory leak at least in co op. they just added back engineer from the first game
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>dungeon with everything literally made out of guns and bullets
>gun drops are somewhat rare
what did they mean by this
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>>729217696
I beat the Dragun once and got bored. The game is not that great, just above average or around average I'd say
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>the only way to get more then 1-2 monies is by not getting hit by bosses which is improbable unless you're a no-life nerd
The real issue you have with the game is that it's too hard. Just say that, you fag, and go play something else.
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Roguelikes as a genre are aging like shit. We just got Hades 2 full release and it barely does anything new that Hades 1 didn't already do.
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>>729229440
god i fucking hope so. can't wait for indie games to go back having actual level design and balance instead of being procedurally generated slop
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Sometimes a game clicks or it doesn't, for me it clicked instantly. One of the few games i completed 100%, to respond to some of your points:
1. ngl i memorized synergies pretty easily, didn't minmaxed by watching wikis until much later on
2. i didn't have any problems with the minimap so idk what to tell you
3.isn't every game the same?
4. skill issue
5. sometimes you will get hit no matter but ultimately your skill and a little bit of luck decides everything



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