>the only thing that was nerfing 4 niggas in a row that select skills from a menu was anime
>>729233748Based pedophileYeah we need more Maelles preferably nude
>>729233748What does J in JRPG stand for and where was Expedition 33 developed ?
>>729233886Japanese inspired - RPGIn a country inspired by Japan
>>729233748Your frenchslop is mid and forgettable. Dropped it 8 hours in to play the Long Dark again
>>729233937You're almost close. You're getting there, anon. I know you can do it!
>>729233886G*mers are so retarded. You know they've never engaged with any art form other than play vidyagames when they start these dumbass genre arguments thinking they BE SPITTING STRAIGHT FIRE NIGGA. 90IQ is your ceiling, anon.
It was too early
>>729233886>make a Croissant outside of France>this somehow makes it not French.
>>729233748western JRPG essentially means a well-written decringe-efied JRPG i.e. just objectively a better videogame
>>729233748JRPG is not a genre, it's a fact. Japanese role-playing game.
>>729234189It makes you a colonizer
>>729233886Stupid cunt.
>>729233886You're asking a lot from an underaged mud-skinned islander.
Nah FF8 and FF10 had a similar feel to E33. It's just people longing for the classic era of final fantasy when it was the biggest franchise in all of gaming. >>729234272
>>729234357>underaged mud-skinned islander.sounds a lot like the modern jap
>>729233993You sound like my girlfriend.
>>729234397Weird typo on Philippines anon :3
>>729234389I mean when you make a croissant outside of a france, that makes you a culinary colonizer
>>729234258How is that not a genre?
>>729233748I'm unironically convinced that's the case. Anime aesthetics and mannerisms are the problem for your average person.
>>729233748"Nerfing" only in sales, not in quality.
People just want realistic character rendering. For some reason. Everything else can be anime as fuck and rip off Evangelion as much as any other anime, but if your characters look like movie game characters, people will eat it up.
>>729234430I believe in you, anon
>>729234189That's exacly how that works when it comes to alcoholic brews
>>729234487>I'm unironically convinced that's the case. Anime aesthetics and mannerisms are the problem for your average person.I used to think it was cringe until I made an effort to start watching some in my senior year of university 10 years ago. I assume this is less common in the media landscape we have now and thus less of an issue for younger people, but there are probably a bunch of people around 30 that still feel the way I did.
>>729233748>>729234487I watch a lot of anime and I still can't stand most anime games
>>729233748Good news, everyone! The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age is now a JRPG!
>>729234487the average person watches animeonly boomers don't like it and i mean literal ones
>>729234487The aesthetics are not the issue. Its the mannerisms and mocap overacting. Its why people prefer Monster Hunter World and Wilds over Rise and the MH classic games as an example.
>>729234586most anime games have more cutscenes than the average "movie game"
>>729233748I'd play a lot more Japanese games if they were a lot less Japanese
>>729235168>Wilds overNo one prefers Wilds over anything.
E33 seems like it's praised for things other than its gameplay. this is the same reason I never played Witcher 3, I asked my friends and they conceded that the gameplay was nothing special.is E33 truly the same as Witcher 3 in that respect? if so I'll just watch a playthrough on youtube if I ever have enough interest.
>>729235189Which is why people with functioning brains have always known "movie games" aren't defined by a percentage of their runtime being cutscenes.
>>729235279>seemsGod i am so tired of asoomers.Fuck off
>>729235361so is it walkie talkie segments?E33 has none of those
>the average person watches animeHoly basement dwelling weeb cope, the average person is repulsed by anime and laughs at it the same way you would laugh at and mock an indian soap opera
>>729235513Nope. A game being a movie has nothing to do with its measurable contents at all. There is no objective sign of a movie game.
>>729235397would you recommend it for its gameplay?
>>729233886What do you call french fries fried outside of france?
>>729235808sure, if you like strategy rhythm game games being disguised as dark fantasy
>>729235759There clearly is, the new god of war, RDR2 and last of us are the classic examples of movie-like games
>>729234487Nah, my average coworkers all watched that gay kpop demon hunter crap with their families and kids. they told me about it and talked about it during meetings, so i gave it a go. i turned that shit off within 5 minutes. garbage slop.
>>729235759>do you ever watch the game instead of playing it?Then its a movie game. Simple as.>"SO YOU THINK ALL GAMES WITH CUTSCENES ARE MOVIE GAMES???"Yes.
>>729233886Jrance
>>729233886>What does MOBA stand for and how does it not describe Unreal Tournament and Street Fighter?
>>729235997Yes, movie games have commitment to story over gameplay on a fundamental level, but again, nothing objectively measurable.>>729236097Nobody asked for ACfag's opinion.
>>729234141I kneel
>>729234189Yes
You are now remembering Septerra Core
JRPGs at their best are just Zeldalikes with turnbased combat.
>>729236319>ACAnimal Crossing?
>>729233886>all these retardsRPG made in Japan
>>729233886Jergin off to the females.
France gets JRPG status because of vibes. Same reason why /a/ gets korean shit even though anime is supposed to be japanese.
>>729236397i could visit my mom in the middle of nowhere by the time it takes for a battle to end in that game
>>729234189>make champagne outside of Champagne, France>
>>729236446Assassin's Creed
>>729233748at least normies are starting to admit their taste is based around how gritty, brown, and grey things are instead of continuing to pretend to have standards or logic
>>729236470So I can post Code Lyoko in /a/?
>>729236446Armored Core fag. Insufferable guy who hung around for 15 years insisting story is diametrically opposed to gameplay and anyone who doesn't hate story hates gameplay.
why are normies so racist against japan?
>>729236545We call them "sparkling wine" instead but it's pretty much the same concept.
>>729234487Average person has watched 100+ episodes of flavor of the month anime
>>729236567>adults like adult thingsoh noooo, japs need to get with the times, 12 year olds don't play these games anymore
>>729234141It filtered trillions.
>>729234189What makes a croissant a croissant can be narrowed down pretty easily. Same for french fries and sushi. Now define what makes a JRPG a JRPG.
>>729235279follow and listen enough to westoid normies and youll notice this about thrir taste in all games and entertainment.its always about celebrity appearances, graphics, realism, how mature or not embarassed it makes them feel, the quality of the trailer, the music, etc.gameplay never enters the equation
>>729234487it's the acting and the localization.Usually both are done offensively badly. If the script sucks, the mocap is alien, the faces are weird, and the acting is shit, people tune the fuck out, quick.
>>729236650>I am an adult now that means I am supposed to like when things look gritty and dull>is that something that isn't gritty and dull? Ew dude didn't you know that's for kids?Man.
>>729233748Anime itself isn't the issue, it's the shitty tropes and awful writing that comes with it.
>>729233886>What does J in JRPG stand for"Just Ripping Off from Wizardry"
>>729236715Buy you can't make champagne outside of the Champagne region of France.
>>729236750what's wrong with that?me myself i started hating kiddy shit at like 10 years old
>>729233748>>729234487It's not the aesthetics, people love that shit. It's the mannerisms and themes.>highschool setting and/or highschooler characters>they all speak in anime cliché lines>Japanese "humor">themes are some form of "authority bad I must fight my parents and teachers" (it's why so many end with fighting god because god = highest authority) and childish, on the level of an angsty middle schooler>autist-oriented mannerisms and dialogue that spells everything out for you with massively overdone body language (autistics can't understand subtlety in social situations)It's a fucking pain to consume anime-adjacent media. It's why Frieren was so popular, people spoke and acted somewhat normally (funnily enough, the high autism anime audience complained that they were emotionless).
>>729235168Classic Monhun is more fun.
>>729236446The Ace Combat poster. Total airplanes autist who shat up and derailed threads about literally ANY game with airplanes in them to discuss in autistic detail the flight dynamics and accuracy of the game's airplanes and compare them to those of Ace Combat. Hasn't posted in a while though.
>>729236820Because something being "kiddy shit" because it isn't gray and gritty enough is retarded nonsense I grew out of when I was 12. You're allowed to be super into it when you're a tween or a teen but anything beyond that just gets embarrassing fast.
>>729236650>my concept of what is adult and for kids is dependent upon the use of colorpeople like you never realize the irony in how utterly childish this is>>729236635
>>729235047It's basically FFX, so yes, it is a JRPG. Always has been.
>>729233748>anime makes troons and redditors seethe so bad that they refuse to play kino like trails bc of itseethe more, queer ;)
>>729236820so 3 years ago?
>>729236952anything without an edge is super dullsuper mario and kirby = dull shitps2 ratchet and clank = still cool
>>729233886>tfw you have to fly to italy every time you want spaghetti
>>729233748Just get rid of retarded avengers timeline shit and trite high school drama. many jrpgs fail at this simple task,
>>729236829>make giant sweeping generalizations about an entire medium>note one (1) exception>the "contention" over this exception was much less over the characters not being emotional enough and much more over autists not understanding the difference between the characters' and writer's perspectivedamn man do you just know nothing about anime
>>729236715These kind of arguments are what WRPG fans get into all day instead of playing WRPGs by the way.
>>729236878And he fucking HATED helicopters for some reason
>>729233886what is the name of this food item and what country is the company who produces them based out of?
>>729236829a whole post that boils down to admitting one is utterly ignorant of language and cultural differences, humor differences, making strawman arguments out of general ignorance of the entire genre while still spewing buzzwords and memewords only in vogue with young teens.its funny the more you listen to "im not kid! me big mature grown up big boy!" types like this, the more they reveal their general lack of maturity and intelligence lol.>i cant watch things eith color like disney! im not a kid!>john wick shooting people and saying fuck? now thats mature and makea me feel like a big boy!lol nothing could scream "i am 12 years old" any louder
>>729237083>retarded avengers timeline shitWhat are you even talking about? Do you consider it "marvel" to have a series consisting of multiple fucking games now? What is wrong with you?
>>729233886>most of the replies
>>729236829>themes are some form of "authority bad I must fight my parents and teachers" (it's why so many end with fighting god because god = highest authority) and childish, on the level of an angsty middle schoolerBut the main villain in E33 is God and the secondary villain is Dad
>>729237263difference is that french fries can easily described by what it istry defining what makes a game a jrpg in a way that doesnt exclude games like tales and kingdom hearts without including wrpg's
>>729237347Normally I don't have problems with food analogies, but they're really good at exposing if someone is totally retarded.
>>729234487i mean yeah? it's made by another culture with that same culture in mind, obviously is not going to be as popular
ffx is about having the strength to perservere in the face of griefe33 is about grieving with death.not really that different. but the "im so fucking mature" 12 year olds dismiss one because it has more color than various shades of brown
i immediately tuned out of this game after they all started getting attacked or whatever and the black guy was like "wooOOOoOAOAaaHhHH what the FUCK??!? who the FUCK is THAT!!!!!"if that's confusing to you feel free to tell me more about how cliche immature dialogue, terrible humor, and retard-oriented mannerisms with massively overdone body language for people who don't understand subtlety is uniquely a japanese problem though
>>729236829>MC walks in on girls while they're changing or in the bath>"EHHHHHHHH???" as the camera pans to the sky>Characters aren't people, they're just Genki/Tsundere/Kuudere/Ojousama archetypes>Breast envy
>>729236718im not surprised, a lot of people only care about aesthetics because they are too stupid to think
>>729237452m8, "jrpg" is just always going to be easier to say than "4 niggas in a row games" or "non-positional turn-based RPG", deal with it.
JRPGs are just Wizardy clones. We only call them JRPGs because Japan kept making Wizardry inspired games after the rest of the world moved on, and for good reason.
>>729236807Yes you can. They dont cast secret magic spells to make it dumbass
>>729237083>timeline shitWhat exactly are you talking about? Few JRPGs actually deal with time travel, much less parallel/alternative universes. Most of the time they are pretty straightforward, aside from some game-specific terminology.
>>729237597>Yes you canNo, you can't, retard.Look it up, because you clearly haven't.
>>729237606can't see shit boss
>>729237572how does that apply to the tales of series which are almost universally considered jrpgs
>>729237525it could be worse, could have that insipid quippy dialogue too
>>729237717one outlying example doesn't make me care enough to try and come up with another mouthful descriptor for E33 instead of just saying "JRPG" and 99.9999% of anyone I say it to immediately knowing what I mean.
>>729236545There is a California champagne by Paul Masson
>>729237717? takes is an action rpg game series, they are arpgs, jarpg if you will
>people who like jrpgs are open to enjoying western rpgs and all types of entertainment>people who like western games hate and never play anything remotely japanese at all and have meltdowns at their mere existence or when any of them are even discussedwhy are they like this? dont they self identify as adult and mature?
>>729237894Cute sparkling wine.Thats not champagne tho, unless he made it in the champagne region of France.
>>729237938What are you gonna do about it, BITCH
>>729237903They think being "adult and mature" is about hating everything that isn't.
>>729237347>>729237460They're not even making actual food analogies to begin with, but okay, here you go: tableware that can only be made in China.In fact, pushing this logic further will lead us to generic trademarks, like xerox or escalator.
>>729238030Nothing.Cute sparkling wine btw. It says so on the back of the label.
>>729237903They're woke retards.
>>729237903>>people who like jrpgs are open to enjoying western rpgs and all types of entertainmentThey have spergouts because a game in the genre they like doesn't look like anime
>>729238161most jrpg fans loved e33
>>729238161They do? I only see the opposite, people demanding historically anime genres "tone it down".
>>729233748Crazy how copypasting the same 5 cliques for every single game gets boring>>729233886JRPG stands for J(apanese people copied wizardry and now people pretend its their invention) roleplaying game
>>729238161no, thats generally not something that happens.jrpg fans are open to e33 or shooters.westoids are not at all open to anything outside their small safe wheelhouse
>>729238297>>729238421that's not true at all.the truth is that normies have a much broader taste than anime gamers.a normie will play elden ring, madden, COD, E33, all extremely different games, their only requirement is that the game is not infantile and doesn't treat them like a retard.Animefags often only play 100 hour long jrpg's that all play the same and throw a fit when a game slightly strays from the normalcy like E33
>>729235189Ok? I'm talking about characters looking like movie game characters. I could have used western but then you would have activated your other contrarian trap card and posted some cartoon style platformer or something.
>>729238421Cool claim bro. Shame you have no facts to support it...
>>729238705>...good morning sar
>>729238681lol i genuinely cant tell if this is a parody shitpost or if this guy is for real
>>729233886In Expedition 33's case it's Jewish Freemasonry shit.
>>729238756>lose argument>pretend other anon is a JeetSo...Yeah...About that evidence to support your baseless claims...? Where is it.
>>729238860if you think that constitutes winning an argument youre even more pathetic than i thought lol.and yes, only indians add random ellipsis
>>729238908>no proof>for the third timeThen you lose.Simple as.
>>729236829What the fuck are you talking about frieren is just as faulty of having japanese humor and it doesn't shy away from needless reiterations. The character's acting like unfeeling autists doesn't help your argument one bit either
>>729238681>their only requirement is that the game is not infantile and doesn't treat them like a retard.Demon's Souls was considered disruptive long before you could be correct by saying Elden Ring is a normalfag game precisely because it didn't treat you like a retard. That has never been a requirement for success. For a good decade or two it actually felt like the opposite, that treating you like a retard was the key to mass appeal.
>>729233886>all these based retards deflecting with anything but the correct answerWhy are you negroes like this? Pretending to be retarded is not funny.
>>729238063That's an atrocious example because>Literally nobody but the colonial british anglosphere referred to generic tableware as "China">Effectively, chinese porcelain was wholly unique due to the technique involved in its production which is why authentic chinese porcelain was and still is called Bone China and is different from western porcelain>The british usage of China is therefor not only extremely culturally specific but also technically wrong within its own cultural sphere and merely accepted by the masses as a vague denominator without any specific meaningUsing your own logic a raccoon is totally a bear because the germans call it Waschbär and Orcas are not part of the dolphin genus because they're also (wrongly) called Killer Whales in common english despite not being actual whales, you have no grasp on the intrinsic mechanics of language and culture.
>>729238958i realize youre like 20 years old and think providing proof os the cruz of any argumrnt (which you havent provided any of btw), so let me inform you that there are no scientific studies on these things one way or the other.you made a stupid statement and insult, got insilted back, and then declared victory while simultaneously revealing your indian heritage. you arent winning any argument. the onky thing you are accomplishing by continuing to post is revealing to everyone just how much of a retarded clown you are.
>>729233748the tales of series. They've always had an anime style, but sometime in the late 2000s they switched from 90s anime to moeblob, pastel colored uguu fag shit and I was out.
>>729239264>usage of China is ... technically wrongCorrect, it's just as wrong of a label as "JRPG" is.It came into widespread usage in the second half of the 90's, but by then the genre was hardly unique to Japan, with games like Xuan-Yuan Sword existing in China and Korea.The thing is, we don't have a generic, concise word for the "four niggas in a row" genre. Hence, we are stuck using the genericized "J" for this style of RPGs .
>>729233748It's considered a "nerf" when normalfags can't enjoy something? That's a buff
>>729234487anime aesthetic has been accepted world wide. the way japanese writers treat anyone above the age of 18 was the problem. infantilism has been a plague to japanese pop media. it wasn't like this
>>729237894AAAAAHH THEeee... frenchhhampagne...
>>729237657Not going toJust follow the recipe and use the right ingredients and yoyve made champagneIts not that hard negro
>>729233748So tired of this normalfag take.
>>729239326Ok.None of this means you win tho, so you still lose the argument (due to lack of evidence to support your claim).Thanks for playing, sorry I made you sp upset.>>729242323>not from Champagne in France.Then isn't it just sparkling wine? I thought this was common knowledge.
>>729233748Nobody likes E33 for the shitty gameplay.
>>729233886(J)apan ripped off wizardry and pretends that they invented it.
>>729243193Champagne is chapagne if you make it the same way. Only snobs think otherwise and theyve been proven to not be able to tell the difference between the two for years, because there is none
>>729243571No, Champagne is only champagne if it comes from the Champagne (France).I know you dont like this fact, but crying about it won't do you any good.
>lune will never force you to clean her feet with your tongue after she spent the whole day barefootwhy live
>>729236796>>729237578>>729238374>>729243385youve never played wizardry
>>729233886Real JRPGs come from the Japanese region of FranceExpedition 33 is just a Sparkling Turn Based Game
>>729234189clair obscur is not a jrpg though. theres been mangas in the specific manga style outside of japan and theres been comics that feel like mangas but arent (usagi yojimbo). clair obscur is an rpg that has roots in jrpgs but in the end is still just a western imitation, not the original.
>>729243752Champagne is champagne when you make champagne, where you make it doesnt matter. There is zero difference in any aspect of it if i make it in france or japan or russia because its all made the same way with the same ingredients
It's not a JRPG because it's not made in Japan, and I'd be fine with never calling anything a JRPG ever again because the term by itself doesn't mean much anymore. There are much better descriptors for its subgenres like Action RPG, Strategy RPG, Turn based combat RPG, etcetera.
>>729248130it is a jrpg and it will continue to be referred to as such in the future, whether you like it or not.
>>729247636>where you make it doesnt matter.Wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne>Champagne is a sparkling wine originated and produced in the Champagne wine region of France>sourcing of grapes exclusively from designated places within it
>>729248130jrpg vs wrpg is just a scale on player freedom and non linearity if you aren't a weeaboo japanophile yellow fever tranny race traitor dumbass
>>729236041watch it with your kids, anon :)
>>729248574So im rightSame ingredients means its champagne regardless of where i make it.Good to know you gave up your retarded idea that its impoossible to import those grapes and make it anywhere you wanted toGood game fag
>>729248781>So im rightNo, because you said>"I-I-IT DOESNT MATTER WHERE ITS MADE"and that was wrong.You are not very smart, are you?
>>729249198>it matters where its made>No i cant explain why thats a fact without saying i believe in magic soil>it being 100% chemically identical means its not the same even though it isSame ingredients same product fagChampange can be made anywhere
>>729249337>Champagne is a sparkling wine originated and PRODUCED in the Champagne wine region of France>PRODUCED>P R O D U C E Dhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne
imagine how crippling your autism must be in your day-to-day life if you're unironically arguing that E33 isn't a jrpg
>>729249519And champagne produced outside of france is still champagneTough shit loser
>>729236829most of these are translation issues
>>729248393Yeah people are fucking retarded, nothing new there
dont all these same faggots love persona 5 because of muh aesthetics i do too but cmon
Its got nothing to do with anime itself, only the social stigma surrounding it. People only perceive a select few mainstream anime as "ok" like DBZ, Pokemon, JJK or Frieren but once you get into even slightly niche anime you return to the perception of anime either being for children and retards like any other western cartoon or being for perverts and fetishists. It rings alarm bells inside the heads of normgroids and makes them fear shame and embarrassment if they were to express their enjoyment of such things. E33 lacks the anime perception and thus is socially acceptable to express enjoyment of. Its all about social status and shame and insecurity like it always is for normalfaggots that would rather slit their throat than publicly admit to liking something thats considered weird by others.
>>729240194it's used because if you say jrpg people immediately understand what you mean you retarded troglodyte
Will 4 cartoon niggas in a row that select skills from a menu save the genre?
JRPGs have a fundamental problem with wanting to be movie games. They care more about story and exposition than actual gameplay.
>>729250383fundamental problem for who exactly you underage cunt?
>>729250635The problem is that they want to be movies.>spend 5 hours walking down hallway>listen to exposition>fight boss>cutscene says you lose regardless of outcome>main character makes gay speech about love and friendship>another 50 hours of grinding ensues>rinse and repeat
>>729250779you don't like the genre so why are you stinking up the thread, zoomie faggot?
>>729233748Turn-based RPGs suck dick regardless of camera and country of origin.
>>729250951>I need a hugbox to protect me from those yucky dissenting opinions
>>729233886>japanese role playing game>look inside>it's neither japenese or role playing
>something important happens>side character narrates and explains exactly what just happened to you (usually multiple times)>another characters tells you how you should feel about itI swear to god you could shave 10 hours off from Persona 5 by just condensing the repetitive writing.
>>729233748He's right desu.Anime is like all cringe these days. The cool anime of the 80s - 00s is done. It's all weird ass incest and fanservice and juvenile humor.Don't tell me 90% of you don't act out when a girl doesn't have panties on either. I see how many of you bitch about spats and shorts.
>>729236829this anything else is copebut, the biggest fucking offense of JRPGs is:>something happens>character proceeds to spend the next 30 minutes exposition dumping to explain the thing that LITERALLY JUST HAPPENED as if they're explaining it to a toddler or retard
>>729251405>>729251286Sorry guys, the audience is too stupid to remember something they just saw happen. Gotta keep giving them reminders. Gotta cover everything in yellow paint. Gotta have the quirky chungus side characters reassure us, so we don't have to do any of that icky thinking that mommy says we have to do.
>>729251405also to add>10 minutes later>proceed to have a dozen flashbacks to the thing that just happened 10 minutes ago
>>729233748If anything, E33 proves that westoids should be mocked whenever they try to whine about japanese media. E33 itself was made by French japanophiles who wanted to make a game inspired by the jrpgs they like so much.
>>729251286>>729251405>>729251624Name 5 games where this happens
>>729248626I would be less inclined to be a race traitor if WRPGs could make female characters that didn't look like either men or past menopause.
>>729251701persona
>>729251701>Persona>Xenoblade>Dragon Quest>final Fantasy>anything with tranime, if we're being honest
>>729251850>>anything with tranime, if we're being honestthiserino
>>729251701Persona 1, Persona 2, Persona 3, Persona 4, Persona 5
>>729234389It's not just the anime but also the fact that it got a lot of marketing and arguably came at a perfect time to capture hype in a genre that is pretty underserved for high budget releases>>729234487Japanese games are simply too anime, FF8 didn't have this problem but it also wasn't marketed to such an insane degree.
>>729249724Its literally not.Prove yourself right, instead of crying.
>>729233748>JRPGs don't need to be made in Japan>anime doesn't need to be made in Japan>manga doesn't need to be made by JapanI really don't like this recent trend.
