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We got em. Clair Obscure BACKS OFF and says it "felt wrong" to use AI for Expedition 33. We kept up the pressure and now they know to never mess with us again.

https://x.com/i/status/2003873304969650577
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Yeah
.....which is why they stopped pursing it during production.
They accidentally left one texture in, and removed it 3 days after release.
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>>729241721
Actual bitch behavior.
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every corpo head is like
>thing that will make cost less money good!!!
then when people hate that it sucks they go
>hahaha jk jk
and then repeat the cycle until people give in to the slopworks then we move on to the new dogshit they want to force
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>>729241721
Too late.
Also relying on asset store for game assets was already too much. AI usage was only the final nail in the coffin and now the entire project and every person working on it have the stink of AI on them.
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KWAB
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>Bending the knee
Fastest way to make nobody respect you.
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JFC artists are mental. They will really kill themselves the moment AI replaces them.
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>>729241951
Why is reusing assets from the asset store too much?
Thats the whole fucking point of the asset store you colossal grifting tard
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is this what they call, uhm
virtue signaling??
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>>729241721
>Stealing every idea from better games that came before and using asset store stuff felt okay but making one pointless texture with AI was icky!
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>>729241872
you are a turd you retarded shill
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>>729241951
They should have also coded their own engine instead of using unreal
And built their own computers to develop on, but only if they manufactured the chips themselves and generated their own electricity
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>we
there is no we, you grummz asslicker.
>y-you corpo shill! AI lover!
Fuck corporations, fuck AI and fuck that little bitch faggot grummz.
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>>729241721
im glad thats settled. this is for sure the last thread we will have on the subject
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I'm going to use ai inpainting to generate tileable ransitions between my 32x32 textures to save me days of busywork and you cant stop me!
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>>729241721
They lost "GOTY" from some indie shit show, not Geoff's, so I'm not sure why it matters
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I haven't played E33. I don't like AI.
Does it say in the rules you can't use AI? It should, but before this shitshow happened, did it say, in the rules: "No AI."?
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>>729242090
Grifters never have a point but always has something to say
You twist a dull knife
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>>729242040
Ok fair enough because I remembered the game wasn't full priced anyway so the asset store assets are excusable. If it was full priced then I expect everything to be handcrafted.
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Nobody has been able to answer this question

WHAT DID THEY USE AI FOR
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>>729241721
Classic French L
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>>729242090
Wow, what an incredible counter-argument, you ESL cunt. I’m at the point now where I want AI to take everything over just to spite you annoying perpetually-seething faggots.
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>>729242159
Yeah if it was full price, i would be skeptical too
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>>729242161
just because no one answered YOU, it doesn't mean it hasn't been.
The answer is out there, do your own research. You can even go on xitter and ask grok, you lazy fuck.
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>>729241721
They didn’t lose an actual award. The worst faction to ever infiltrate gaming took their ball and went home. Nobody cares.
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>>729241721
Classic French, giving up on first sign of resistance
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I have AI fatigue in the sense I'm tired of fucking hearing about it every day.
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>>729242161
It was something like 12 or 13 piece of essentially placeholder art that were removed, accidentally leaving one in, but of course autists were all over that like a pig rooting for truffles.
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>>729242161
Supposedly placeholders
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>>729242012
They used AI. They never had respect once this information came out.
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>>729242269
That’s the goal of this obviously coordinated movement. No normal person actually cares. There’s a new activist initiative astroturfing this board every month and this is the current one.
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I don't understand why devs use AI to make placeholder assets when there are plenty of high-quality public domain resources in Wikimedia Commons and the Internet Archive.
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>>729242161
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>>729242371
If they stuck to their guns, I'd have respected them. Buckling after losing one award is spineless.
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>>729242012
>>729242371
Why are you guys just taking a title at face value and not doing any research at all
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>>729242393
>>729242306
>>729242291
So it was just those unreadable newspapers stapled to the pole in some random fucking area, quickly removed even before any of this drama?

This is news? This is controversy? the people whining about clankers have lost their minds
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does grummz hire you fags to use his tweets as a news source? or do you do it for free
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>>729241721
E33fags in shambles
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>>729242023
Inshallah, the sooner the better.
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it's really weird how really famous internet media was supposed to push AI, but they saw all the NPCs being against it and now they're doing the opposite for the clout. it's easy.
i think it's a long-term thing using reverse psychology in latching liberal-types of all kinds in the anti-AI sentiment so that the useful people can be okay with AI when they eventually really implement it. who knows? the articles might continue as they quietly implement it as the lib-types feel comfy
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>>729241721
>Actually bending the knee for using a tool.
This whole thing has pushed me to go ahead and start using AI tools to supplement my own workflows. Just fuck all this "outrage" bullshit over it.
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>>729242437
The use of AI was long decided when they were patching the game to remove the missed placeholder textures like 3 daya after release
GO
RESEARCH
STOP TAKING RANDOM COMMENTS AS GOSPEL
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>>729241721
Who fucking cares.
It's a shit western rpg.
If they want to apologise for anything then apologise for using the shitty unreal 5 engine.
Apologise for the story being 'its a painting' drivel.
Apologise for the gameplay being boring.
Apologise for just using flipped unreal and unity assets.
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>>729242090
good one, anon. you sure made him look stupid
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>>729242149
Supposedly this awards show asks developers if they ever used AI and E33 lied when its devs said no.
>>729242161
Placeholders on the right, final product on the left.
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>>729242578
see? actual useful people >>729242584
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>Sandfall openly admits they used Metahuman to massively save on the mocap costs
>Metahuman uses AI
>virtually no neoluddite idiot even brings this up
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JAk9334PNw
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>>729242621
Damn this is a fucking disaster. it is OVER for E33

if EGM doesn't revoke all their awards, gaming is fucking dead
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>>729242509
people are stupid and want to see something that's successful crash and burn for no reason other than to just feel they were a part of it all
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>>729242621
Link the first part.
No one has ever heard of this award show till this happened. The story of e33 AI textures was live long before they ever joined this shitty ceremony
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>>729242584
The tantrums they’re throwing over AI also do nothing. It cannot be stopped now. They’ll be using it too once it has integrated into every aspect of their life. I mean, shit, they already do when they use their cell phones and web search.
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>>729242707
based
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>>729241721
Soooooooooooo is anyone going to ask for a source or just take this grifter at face value?
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>>729241721
>admits DEFEAT
Time to drop this losers, don't buy video games from fucking losers
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>>729241721
>stripped of its goty win
from the "Indie Game Awards", not TGA.
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>>729242621
>right actually looks better
i am so tired of antis
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>>729242621
lmao this is so fucking dumb who cares
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>>729242621
call me crazy but I think the AI ones look better, more weird and mystical like everything else. But I played through the game twice and never even noticed this stuff, so...
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>>729242125
even Jeff Kiwi's awards don't matter, for that... matter.
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Cringe. Anyone who kneels to these luddite retards loses my purchase.
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AI33
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>>729242885
A lot of early 1.5 models are like this. Very weird and dreamlike.
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>>729242245
>You can even go on xitter

mmm no thanks
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>>729242012
Nobody who matters will respect you if you use AI.
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>>729242792
True. Also, in my case, I was already dabbling in using AI tools anyway. I was never "against" AI to begin with and saw them as potentially useful for things like placeholders and drafts (which is basically how I'll continue to use them). The only thing that changed in me is that I'm done being worried about what other people might think about me using the tools I already do. Especially people online.
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>>729243062
grok stories can basically be lucid dreams with your eyes open
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>>729242590
Liar
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>>729242509
Thanks for the summary on Expedition 33 AI controversy. So basically nothing. At least YouTubers and Resetera got to make a few advertising revenue threads and videos about it. With honors to Third World Pirat_Nation and his cohorts on Twitter.
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>>729243062
yeah, I hope the early AI models still exist somewhere. New ones are too good, which is nice I guess, but the old ones were so weird and dreamlike, almost exactly like dreams sometimes. Pretty cool, makes you wonder about what dreams really are and how they function.
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Ugggggghjhhhhhj I wish grummz will suck my dick
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>>729241721
These retards never learn, always listening to a vocal minority on social media, just keep quiet and don't engage with the "community", use social media as an advertisement platform only.
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>>729243286
grummz derangement syndrome

explain to me right now what grummz has to do with this topic. other than the fact you got triggered because you saw a username.
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>>729242161
Unironically, at release there were newspaper wrappings around a pole that were AI generated.
Literally on the first day someone pointed that out and the devs said "Whoops, that was a placeholder, we'll fix that" and removed it. It was the only instance of AI found in the game.
A game of retarded telephone occurs and suddenly "Sandfall used AI on one placeholder they forgot to replace and immediately did" becomes "CLAIR OBSCUR MADE ENTIRELY OUT OF AI RESCIND THEIR AWARDS CRUCIFY THEM UPON MOUNT CALVARY AND SPEAR THEIR BELLIES AND DRINK THEIR BLOOD!"

Absolute insanity.
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>>729243249
Of course they do, several sites house older models and you can find torrents or megas with them. They also weight basically nothing so you can stockpile on them.
One reason i like Chroma is because it can do wild, dreamlike shit just like 1.5 models, but with immense stylistic variety.
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>>729241721
everyone will still use it because its effective
they just wont tell you
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>>729242578
This makes too much sense
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>>729242509
Their issue isn't with AI. It's with Clair Obscur. They hate the game because it's popular and are using this as post-hoc justification for their hatred, that's it.

As for the reason they hate it? Because it's not Japanese. No further reason needed. There are legions of fans online who will immediately dismiss anything not created in Japan, video games especially, and won't entertain even a modicum of success for anything produced elsewhere. They are especially offended because this game borrows from and pays homage to a number of Japanese games and so they feel personally assaulted by its existence.
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>>729242509
You need to understand most dev studios and ALL gaming 'journalists' sites and ALL Twittertards absolutely loathe the fact that E33 basically put them all in their bitch place and won the awards unanimously because most modern videogame makers are faggots pushing out shit like Veilguard.
The moment a drop of blood was spilled they fell into their typical shark/leech ways and wriggled over to cause as much controversy as they could.
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Whatever they say, they won't stop using AI. It's too useful.
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Ill play an AI game right now if its fun. Who gives a fuck?
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>>729242090
>bloody bastard saar
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>>729242509
The only reason people are talking about it is because of Larian's statements on the use of AI.
Though objectively E33 did "deserve" to lose their indie game award because it pretty explicitly says "no generative AI used during development" and on release there were AI assets in the game, AKA they were used while building the game. But I digress
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>>729241721
Lmao AIjeets on suicide watch.
Imagine pushing "the future" but everyone thinks it's bleak
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>>729242198
>I want retarded things to happen because some fags acted like fags
Unprincipled worm.
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>>729242796
He's grifting in that tweet alone. The source is basically an interview where they said "AI took off in 2022 right in the middle of when we were making the game. We tried a few things, kept a few for placeholder material to be replaced, then backed off on it because it felt 'wrong' and 'unnatural'.
Of course Grummz is a fucking faggot looking to make everything come off as a 'victory! We stopped the evil Sanfall from using AI!' so he titles his tweet like Sandfall were pushing for AI up until a few days ago but relented because of the backlash.

Don't let /pol/tards on here fool you. The left and liberals are faggots but Grummz is a raging faggot of a different color.
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>>729243616
I love E33 but I don't think they should've gotten the indie game award. They're in some weird place between indie and AA, IMO, and when I think indie I think solo devs or teams of 2-5
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>>729243481
I wish I saved it, but there was an article showed that over 65% or so of people they surveyed use AI at work, but they also don't tell anyone they use. In other words, people are still using AI, they will keep using AI, and even though it's "dirty" to come out and say it, people will keep using it anyway because of its objectively beneficial aspects.
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>>729243481
you can still tell though, once this news broke I was not surprised in the slightest, the whole game has a sterile feel to it
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>>729242012
I cannot think of a single person who cares about having the respect of AIfags.
Not even other AIfags give a fuck about being respected by AIfags, everyone knows that they're basically just flesh automatons.
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>>729243108
I bet you like having iphones and fancy shoes to impress fellow consumers.
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>>729243742
silksong had a larger budget and nobody questioned if it was indie.
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>Was just used for some placeholder slop
Idk am I supposed to be outraged by this?
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>>729243758
>using AI will become the new racism
Good. Let these fools be stomped out at the same time.
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>>729241721
Suck it dweebs I knew being a hater would pay off eventually, I HAVE BEEN VINDICATED
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>>729241721
Do you think we'll ever get internet drama that actually matters?
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>>729242012
They did not 'bend the knee'. Congratulations, you got grifted by Grummz. Don't worry there's hundreds of thousands of other retarded faggots who fell for his shit too.
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another victory for us xisters! keep up the FIGHT! FIGHT ! FIGHT!

Once this AI bubble POPS all of these tools will magically disappear over night and never be used in any capacity ever again! Then we can get our mega based tr@ns and POC back in the seats making concept art again! based based based ! keep on fighting! remember this is the most important fight of our lives!

Posted from my iPhone.
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>>729241721
I hope they are striped of all their rewards. AI usage is AI usage regardless of how small.
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>>729243742
I think people just don't know what indie means anymore honestly but that whole conversation has been played out a ton of /v/ at this point. I would absolutely call Deep Rock Galactic an indie title but it has a publisher and a dev team that started at 30 people and is now more like 50+ afaik as they work on their upcoming stuff.
People can't agree on what budget an indie is allowed to have, even though one nigga with $10 million could self publish a game he worked on and it would be 100% indie. Sandfall is literally an independent studio. I don't think it's possible to have a good convo around that aspect.
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>>729243873
Bottom is still full of wierd glitches and artifacts though, it'll never be perfect no matter how much you jeets want it to be.
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>>729242621
>>729243405
I find it uncharacteristically of /v/ to just believe this corporation at their word like this. They only got caught on newspaper pole but do you really believe that was the only asset in the game to use AI?
This naivety feels a bit unbelievable
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>>729241721
It'll feel just as "wrong" next time, too. The irony of having a world and characters revolve around a painting and artists, and you use AI.
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>>729243850
>silksong had a larger budget and nobody questioned if it was indie.
Anon Silksong was using the cash from their previous game to make silksong they did not ask a ramdom guy who had rich parents to give them 10m neither did they hire any famous actor to work on the game.
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>>729243730
weird, why dont they just post a link to the interview in the OP instead of grummz tweet?
So weird
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>>729241721
I don't care if ai is used or not. I only care if the game is good or not.
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>>729244271
that's racist
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>>729241721
>used tons of AI
>get called out
>lie and say it was a placeholder
>don't say anything past that
>trannies finally realize they used AI months and months later and sperg out
>lose some irrelevant award
>cow toe around the mentally ill saying it felt wrong
MAJOR cringe, if you have any respect for this behavior you are an easily scammed retard.
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>>729241872
>>729242393
>>729242509
>we removed the AI textures with garbled text
>we definitely didn't use AI for any other textures ;) trust me bro ;)
If you actually believe this you are a clown.
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>>729242621
>are those random newspapers textures on a building I didn't pay attention?? AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE! HELP ME BLUESKY-SAMA!

The fact that this is what they get them so pressed and that they patched them out with handmade textures soon after the release is one of the most nontroversies I've seen. Then again, who the fuck cares about game awards, let alone INDIE game awards.
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>>729244389
why are you just lying
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>>729244152
They conveniently only used it in the place they happened to get caught in. Common sense to assume they used a lot more of it, which I'd even say is fine if that's how they want to create, but at least then don't lie about it.
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>>729244498
I believe it, but even if it isn't true, who gives a shit? The game is great and one of the most soulful games in years. Even if the made the whole thing with 100% AI I still wouldn't care if the end result was this good
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>>729244498
its a "im biased and hate them so they are LYING!!" episode, huh
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>>729243456
You're a cool guy. I'm kind of burned out on AI most of the year so I never experiment with models like chroma. But I do have a shitload of old models and loras backed up.

I think it's rad that you can just store stuff like that and use them whenever. Lately I've actually been thinking of going back to generate character and outfit concepts, since old models were WAY better at that than new ones.
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>>729243850
>silksong had a larger budget
Based on what?
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>>729244586
>caught
Wow it's a good thing we caught these guys using computers to make their things. Next we need to shut down blender and maya. Artists should craft things IRL before scanning them into the computer, it's more genuine that way and more human. Technology is anti-human, leave that shit to retards like birds and beavers building their dumb shit all over the place
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>>729242771
TORtanic still going strong.
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>>729244152
>>729244586
They're just drones that liked the game for whatever reason and hate AI and must cope.

See below
>>729244545
>>729244597
>>729244616
Some guy noticed he couldn't read the text, GUESSED it was AI generated because you can't even tell for sure, and they removed it claiming it was a placeholder(Ubisoft and EA has done this with plagiarized art in the past, it's an old game). The only possible way you can tell if a random environmental texture was generated would be by the text being messed up but people act like yep that's definitely all they used for.

Surely, when every texture in the game is a smeary mess. Definitely #NoAI!
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>>729244389
What is this hysteria you absolute losers are experiencing where you're just making shit up? Are you *that* bitter that it cleaned house at the game awards? No one is believing you
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>>729242379
It's weird that it's a concentration of people we already hate. All of the rainbow tumblr hairs and mutant chuds that became trannies had their Patreon commission grifts shaken down by corporate and their AI, so now they are trying to bolster their numbers with all of the other online circles. It's like seeing people try to get computers shut down before Y2K. Retards.
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>>729241721
Death to all games that use AI slop generation!
Death to all those gay AI companies that are causing the prices of RAM to skyrocket!
WE ARE GOING TO POP THAT BUBBLE!!! WE WILL HAVE CHEAP RAM AGAIN!!!
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I think E33 kind of shows how crazy artfags are to the average normalfag. A normalfag knows a game is composed of thousands of assets and parts. If they see a texture is AI they know it’s not a big deal because 99% of the rest was human made and done. Twitter artists only know solo/small projects like a single drawing so when they think something is AI, it encompasses the whole project.
In Short: Normies understand what it takes to make a project like E33 more than twitter artists
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>>729245098
>Y2K
That was real though and would've been a big problem, but people predicted it and fixed it before it happened. There were skilled computer guys getting paid big money to fly around the country and make custom fixes for the software for all kinds of big computer systems, like banks, utilities, etc.
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>>729244721
i mean... the devs are the ones who took the initiative to lie about it, obviously they think "getting caught" is bad.
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>>729244498
They added a photo mode where you can go out of bounds, go find the AI textures
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>>729245145
>twitter artists
That might not even exist anymore since there are a ton of artists pissed about twitter adding AI gen on their images. You can expect a huge exodus of artists,
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>>729244498
Go ahead and find us all the textures. I think you forget the burden of proof is on you, you fucking tard. Until then shut the fuck up.
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>>729245261
I really doubt that. They probably asked one guy who didn't know about it, since it was such a minor irrelevant thing that got immediately fixed. It wasn't big news or a big problem for anyone, except those people who lose their minds when they see a computer. Normal people don't have strong opinions on AI one way or the other.
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>>729245302
>>729245391
I think the game is full of them because the textures are all ugly and the concepts are surreal just like janky AI art. But you're going to trust freemason nepobabies larping as indies as they outsource work and use AI. Actual braindead drones.
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>>729245145
>>729245323
>>729245441
>caring about what normal people think
Totally normal thread on 4chan
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>>729244498
WHO CARES
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>>729245441
>Normal people don't have strong opinions on AI one way or the other.
Lol no. Normalfags have started hating AI since half the funny animal videos on facebook/instagram/tiktok have started getting replaced with blatant AIslop.
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>>729245323
>You can expect a huge exodus of artists
Lmao, they tried to move to bluesky when musk threw a seig heil but no one actually moved with them. Artists are trapped.
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>>729245567
the point is that the holocaust is only real in your mind
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>>729244843
so, you are still projecting and using guess work
embarrassing
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>>729244152
Well anon where else do you think they used gen AI? Certainly wasn't in the music, background visuals (woulda been caught for that too), nevron designs, etc. There isn't much AI could have been used for considering the scope of the game.
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>>729241721
Ladies and gentlemen, we got 'em
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>>729245514
>I think they coulda... used.... durr could've... used... used ai... possible becuuuuuuzzz... *drools*
Thanks, dipshit. Again, very insightful
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>>729245637
They used AI to generate the texture for a rock hidden under the grass. Pure fucking slop
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>didn't use AI even once
Kneel.
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>>729245735
no one knows who that is, and he is wearing levi's so he clearly never made it big
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>>729241872
>an ai generated art made from several artists stolen work that was used to train an ai made it into release, and they made money out of it
this is a shittest from the industry, an industry plant, give them an inch and they'll take a mile with it. they knew what they were doing.
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>>729245735
I bet he would've if he could've at the time. Dude doesn't seem like a retard. Then again, the progress of him learning how to draw characters is pretty soulful. Maybe it would've been helpful for some things, though
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>>729245781
nephew as fuck post
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>>729244721
Yes caught, they were the ones trying to cover it up and lied about it. Given that being a given, there's enough reason to suspect there's more of it in there.
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>>729241721
this whole controversy just makes anti-AI people look hysterical and turns people away from them
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What's even funnier is that they specifically shoved the concepts of painting and art in the players face the entire game to manipulate everyone to believing they were experiencing some on a higher artistic level than a normal video game. Other games don't have to do that. Games like Silent Hill 2 broke new ground in showing unique ways video games can tell a narrative without having to say, "LOOK LOOK ITS ART, SEE ALL THE REFERENCES TO REAL LIFE ART, WE'RE JUST LIKE THE OLD PAINTERS AND STORYTELLERS FROM LONG AGO." And then it turns out they used AI to make some of the "art" in the game. hilarious
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>>729245862
>almost every single character gets worse the more he “improves” them
Unironically should have used AI if it had existed back then. There’s a reason why some of the most popular mods are portrait replacers.
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I've never met an intelligent person who seethed about AI. It seems to be a purely online phenomenon where retards scream at each other in echo chambers to reinforce their delusions, like toaster fuckers.
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>>729241721
>cummz
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>>729245982
Jesus E33 really mindbroke this
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KEPLER
HIRE THIS FRENCH
KEPLER
MAKE THIS JRPG(FRENCH GAME)
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>>729242910
It's considered a lot more prestigious in the gaming industry than the indie awards.
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>>729245982
Another retard just making shit up in his own head
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>>729241721
>be french
>give up
kwab
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>>729245862
for me, it's
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you have to be a moron to not use the god given tools at your disposal
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>>729246046
I've met like 2 people in real life who seethed about AI but they were pretty weird.
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>>729245982
you have AIDS
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E33 won
E33 enjoyers won
Sandfall won
Guillaume Broche won
Lorien Testard won
Whites won
anti-E33subhumans got btfo lmao
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>>729245826
It's fair use.
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>>729246345
agreed, it's just fun and cool. people just make whole personalities about hating the new cool thing
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>>729245862
I’ll be honest if you told me the stardew valley sprites were AI at least the current ones, I’d believe you. They’re pretty generic. I think the game is cool and everything but the art is really nothing to write home about
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>>729246345
twitter having meltdowns this christmas eve
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>>729246491
>nice work.
>looks good, thanks
>not bad.
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>>729246648
Wait until they realise photoshop has generative ai for like 5 years with generative fill.
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>>729246772
I don't understand people who are rude to AI. I know it doesn't matter, it doesn't actually have feelings, but still. I think people who intentionally insult and talk shit to AI are frustrated pussies IRL who don't have the balls to act like that to other people.
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>>729246787
yea its pretty bloated
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>>729246787
They don’t care dude, most game engines and programming IDEs have AI plugins these days. It’s really just shitty internet artists who care. You think they care that’s AI code was used? That’s not “art”
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>>729241721
The AI backlash is just retarded to me, most writing applications now use AI so if you use spell check it may as well been stolen.
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>>729241919
I've seen worse.
>can't you just delete any overhead expenses and send the updated financial statements to the broker?
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Grifter thread
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>>729241721
WHO
FUCKKNG
CARES
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>>729246772
go back to sucking dicks on reddit
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>>729242621
Embarrassing that you autists are throwing a fit over a single texture thats part of the background noise
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>>729244843
>Surely, when every texture in the game is a smeary mess. Definitely #NoAI!
So yes, your entire argument is that they MUST be lying and that because 'every texture is a smeary mess' (they are not) that they must all be AI. It is insane how utterly pathetic the level of discourse on everything is becoming.
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>>729247034
Everyone.

Over 85% of people are sick and fucking tired of AI, and we're taking a stand against you thieving parasitic idiots and sycophants trying to force it into our lives.
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>>729241721
Don't like ai much myself but bowing down to the mob that hates you is shooting yourself in the foot.
these guys will never forgive you, will hold the grudge forever and absolutely will take a mile when given an inch.
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>>729241721
They backed off from AI early in development already, retard.
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>>729246870
>>729247045
I can't believe it, there's already people defending AI like it's a real human. The robot wars aren't going to be as one sided as I thought
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>>729241721
>Grummz
>Schreier
I wonder just how many others went from being hated members of their forums, to putting out clickbait on social media. Someone ban them from life, jesus christ
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>>729242621
oh my science they didnt manually paint every miniscule texture as if its an assembly line, fucking slaves, get back to your mindless labor
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>>729244515
>I didn't pay attention
I actually did.
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>>729245826
Yeah i remember on launch everyone was telling people to buy they game because the newspaper texture was just so good
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>>729242509
People hating on E33 because of "muh AI placeholder" are either paid retarded inbred shills from other studios or plain ignorance-fueled bandwagen crybabies. Seriously, no sane nigger on this god-forsaken planet give two shits about the use of AI as long as it's good. The moment they use it for retarded shit which looks bad it's deserved to be hated on. But this shit right now? This is insane bullshittery on the highest order. Every faggot taking this AI controvery serious needs to be shot in the face with a brick from a trebuchet.
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>>729247262
What purpose does it serve to be mean to the computer? I bet you also break a lot of keyboards and controllers.
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>>729246870
i also do that when it gives me something, its just natural
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>>729246787
I just read someone saying that this lowers barriers to edit images with AI
dude doesn't know about ctrl+c
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>>729247129
Lol no you found a technicality to punish them for not being woke.
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>>729241721
>OH MY SCIENCE THIS IS SO MUCH WIN! Now they'll have to hire real artist. I can't wait for more people that draw to get the jobs they deserve!
I fully accept the AI future if it means artfags will be unemployed
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>>729246870
I’m rude to the AI in hopes that whatever it got wrong, it remembers it’s wrong in its training data. It won’t, but it helps with the frustration
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>>729247262
I don't care aboot your worthless opinion, you posted the dick sucking reddit frog which automatically makes you wrong
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>>729247478
Artfags are the only ones at damn near severe risk of being replaced since so many of them refuse to adapt. Or at least the twitter/tumblr artists.
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>>729245145
Normalfags are goyim cattle, who gives a fuck about what they think?
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>>729247478
they wont be, its a tool that only artists can use properly
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>>729241872
They still used it in their production pipeline. Or is that usage one of the good ones? Sounds like motivated reasoning to me.
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>>729241721
One of these doesn't use AI. Spoilers: it's the highest rated indie of all time.
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>>729247364
You people keep trying to push the narrative that AI has already been accepted and only a small minority are desperately trying to push back when thats not the case. Literally every sane artists understands the value of art is in the human effort. Even a game as widely praised as E33 got instant pushback when AI was barely mentioned in an article. AI has been around for a few years now and it hasn't been accepted, nor will it ever be. You look at the people that are screeching about it on Twitter and decide all artists are fragile grifters when the majority are making art in their rooms in between work and school. Those people that you don't see will never accept AI because they gain an intimate pleasure from the process of creation that you will never understand.
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>>729247880
It's also agenda pushing nonsense though which explains why it's so highly rated by game journos
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>>729247718
Don't care.
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>>729242379
I'm not normal because I care about the constant enshittification of art? I'm not normal because I look at the US government handing some Jew billions of dollars because he claims he can create God if he can just staple enough computers together and think it's insanity? You're going to shame me for not wanting to go along with things getting worse and more expensive day by day?
Go tongue nigger anus.
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>>729247882
NTA but AI was pretty well loved when it looked like shit. When the flaws were obvious people loved making AI images and sharing them. When it got better and super realistic then the hate became more vocal. Twitter isn't reality. The average person doesn't care and will consume whatever as long as it's entertaining enough. Actual artist will still be around the same way we still have people that make furniture by hand. However everyone just buys whatever shit they have at Walmart, Target and IKEA.
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>>729247882
>nor will it ever be
You luddites said the same thing about electricity and automobiles, AI is not going away, better make peace with it
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>>729247882
AI will be forced by the corporations. You won't be able to stop it. It's already everywhere in my workplace and the workplaces I interact with. And with management in the video game industry looking to cut costs, you will be seeing a lot more AI slop textures in future releases. It will take some time due to how long dev cycles are.
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>>729241721
the french urge to surrender
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>>729241721
>outstriped of it's goty win
huh?
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>>729247882
What you don't understand is that most people give 0 (zero) shit about the use of AI. he artists, the code-monkeys and the writers-fags cry in vain even by the slightest mention of AI-usage in their field. Yet they cannot comprehend that it allowes the most stupid retard in our realm to create something of value. I understand that mundain shit like porn, cat-pictures and fake-persona shit is annoying BUT I also understand that AI is a fucking tool to be used like a pencil, like an IDE (integrated development environment) or Word/LibreOffice/OnlyOffice. As long as you create something of value it is justified. But as soon as you neglet the intention of doing something worthwhile you are absolutely in the right spot to be shitten on.
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>>729241982
https://youtu.be/Sir_24duiF4
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>>729248386
Now you know the true purpose of these silly awards, it's like winning a deal with the devil
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>>729247713
Because they’re being more logical
than you in this instance
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>>729248386
its from the Indie Awards, not the Jeff and Muppets show
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Does anyone remember the argument digital artist had with pen and pencil artist like 20 years ago? Where the pen and paper artist were saying digital art was soulless trash because they weren't really drawing by hand? This is the same shit again.



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