Reminder that no male has reached 70 intellect according to the lore of Elden Ring Gurl Boss Game
Reminder that Ranni is my wife.
Didn’t we just have a thread like this
Japan is allowed because they still make the waifus cute.
That’s such a stupid assumption that you know it cannot be true. >>729243885Yes we fucking did. God damn it. Why is /v/ just pure outrage culture?
>>729243815Why does this thread keep getting posted?
>azur and lusat don't block your path because they're immobile
>>729243987Because the majority of Elden Ring fans are in denial about the overwhelming feminist themes in the game.
>>729243987Because Ranni sexo
>>729243885It’s bait as usual >>729071573
>rollslop>lore
>>729244080Wait til you see what other souls games have. It will cause incels to have a heart attack if they paid attention.
>>729243815>no male has reached 70 intellectUntil the Tarnished (me) (based)
>>729244073I guarantee you these two are at like 99+ intelligence while Rennala is still at like 80~ or something.
>>729243987>>729243885>>729244184there's some schizo that chimps out about the moon sorcery requiring more INT than the comet azur thing
>>729243815>Women are too stupid to stop at the soft capChecks out.
>>729243815I have this how do I make her real
>>729244372Whatever's going on with them they may as well be dead since they've got the Shinto ascetic thing going on where they've become something else entirelyThough Sellen implies they were being used as conduits for the glintstone river of life itself before being relocated and deliberately hidden
>>729244391>deep space science takes up less brain power than staring at the moonBRAVO MIYAZAKIBRAVO FEMINIST WICCAN
>>729244254Based, rollslop is trash, cast-one-spell chadding is based.
>>729244628You have to keep talking to her until she starts talking back.
>>729244658Sellen outright implies they aren’t dead. She even calls Azur a good judge of men. They’re just more silent and enigmatic than the crystallians, who are similarly enigmatic. Azur is levitating in meditation the same way they are. It’s a third eye state of being.
>>729243815If renalla is so smart, why doesn't she realize her husband is a woman?
>>729243815Who cares about 70 INT when Carian Slicer and Rock Sling are the best spells in the arsenal?
Spell requirements don’t mean Jack shitJust because you have 50 Faith doesn’t mean you get access to all high Faith incantations
>>729244073>where do you work out?>At the library.
>>729243815Recluse is the most powerful spell caster in ER.
Rennala couldn’t even make a new lineage of spells. Her conspectus isn’t a true conspectus.
>>729245118Twin MoonsAstel MeteoriteCollapsing StarsFleeting MicrocosmGravitational MissileComet AzurAdula MoonbladeThe power of SPACE
>>729245418I can tell they liked Final Fantasy with Recluse being a Sage in stat spread and general abilities, and Scholar being, well, a Scholar in looks and abilities
>>729245586Bwo.... all of the Carian sword spells and swordplay itself are the Lazuli conspectus
>>729245908She didn’t make smaller and smaller moons the way Azur made smaller and smaller comets. Or Lusat, when he made smaller and smaller meteors. The two main conspectuses have a primeval originator. Rennala couldn’t deconstruct her own magic.
>>729245418Magic is stored in the tits
>>729245668Twin moons sucks and spamming gravitational missile is better. Women can’t invent spells for shit. >>729246050This.
>>729246109I love Twin Moons, its so much fun
>>729246181It’s horrible at what it does.
>>729243815yea yea cool outrage thread or whatever but ADD THE FUCKING NIGHTREIGN BOSSES TO THE BASE GAME. Thank you for your attention on this matter.
>>729243815rope pussy
>>729244073>if i fill myself with the soul sucking cosmic microplastic i'll become a star!Mages are comically retarded in ER.
>>729243815Reminder that the female intelligence RPG meme exists because they have nothing else going for them except their looks.
>>729246050Probably pointless to even try with a spell that's already that complex and specifically derived from the moon rather than any other celestial bodies, the way Glintstone Pebble and others are worded they didn't work backwards from Comet/Comet Azur and Stars of Ruin, they were worked up to from Glintstone Pebble and Glintstone StarsMagic in Elden Ring is after all split between geomancy, astromancy and basically divination or summoning, all of them draw on something else's power in some way with a magical conduit
Rennala and Ranni still need staves to use magic while Azur and Lusat ditched theirs. Rennala can only turn into an impervious rock for a few seconds at best while Azur and Lusat are literally transcendent rock Buddhas.Fuck Carian simps.
>>729245418Too many moles.
>>729246431Um. The aspect of the moon that attracts and cancels magic coats a lot less int than the full moon spell as a whole. It’s also a lot better at countering magic.
>>729246613>coatscosts*And the spell I’m referring to is Eternal Darkness. The Sellians could deconstruct their moon but not Rennala, apparently. Although it’s possible they simply copied what they saw - the black void that was left in the wake of the dark moon’s destruction.
>>729245418I wonder in lore how she would fare next to Rennala
>>729246403the reality is that women are almost incapable of being exceptional at anything due to their genes and trait distributionsad but true, female elites can never exist in a world with males because men are natures test
I don’t like how the homing soul mass spells in ER are floating sets of swords and not constellations of stars
>>729245418>>729246819She’s just a female Gideon Ofnir. A Faith + Intel focused wizard(witch). She’s likely not as powerful or as knowledgeable as Gideon.
A good way to tell if someone is stupid or not is asking them what happened to Sellen.
>>729244232I can't believe Gwyn's authoritarian regime crumbled because he tried to micromanage other people. Miyazaku wouldn't do that to us, right bros? Also I can't believe Gwyn kept having daughters, and sons that turned into daughters, and the one son he had, he banished. Hm? What's that? Gwyn's "children" are all actually shards of his own soul and identity?Mamma mia.Good thing primeval man was also broken into several female shards, that all went bad, except the one who showed that the only way to save a bad guy is by making him your wife and treating him right. Based Ivory King. Mmm? evidence the Ivory King might actually be a woman, meaning the relationship that saved a shard of Dark was actually t4t?Oh goodness gracious. Michael Zaki, you were supposed to be the based one. Ar least we still have Bloodborne to go home to... WHY IS THERE PERIOD BLOOD EVERYWHERE
>>729246613>>729246750That's very specifically a black hole sorcery and not a moon sorcery yeah
>>729246869Okay but this is fantasy. In fantasy land women can > men. >>729247062She fused with her masters and it fucked her up.
>>729246480They still ain't got shit on Albinaurics who are so juiced on arcane they can use their own bodies as spellcasting focuses without needing to look into the primeval current
>>729243815Wasn't Ymir Renalla & Rellana's teacher?
>>72924741>>729247457Wow. I didn’t realize you shitters are this bad at the lore. 1. What happened to Sellen was very likely not her own doing. She either had help or someone else did it to her. Also, she wouldn’t fuse herself in with the two conspectuses she disapproved of. She didn’t even take the heads of Azur/Lusat. She only took their primal soul stones the same way you took hers. What she does with them after is unknown. She wouldn’t have put herself out of commission when she was preparing herself to become the new headmistress. The graven masses we see are also explicitly experiments. It is likely she had greater goals in mind. 2.The Eternal Darkness that befell the Eternal was a consequence of the dark moon’s destruction. The moon sorceries share the same spell alluring effects. How is this so hard to understand? Or miss? I really don’t understand it. We even find the fragments of the destroyed moon of the Nox.
>>729247485Albinaurics are retarded anon. The Scholar can’t even out-wizard the Recluse. He is just a pot thrower. What a shame.
>>729243815I attacked this freak the second I saw her
>>729247739Meant to quote >>729247413
>>729247739Dont care about that nerd shit, I just hit stuff with a sword
>>729247739>She either had help or someone else did it to her.I don't think it's much of a mystery that Rennala did it, she's the only other person in that room and she's hanging out out-of-view in a corner when Sellen first arrives
>>729247739>She wouldn’t have put herself out of commission when she was preparing herself to become the new headmistress.This. She wanted to put a stop to Carian influence. >The graven masses we see are also explicitly experiments. It is likely she had greater goals in mind. This. It’s like assuming the Hornsent just stopped at jars. They didn’t.
>>729247819Scholar's school is apparently about worldliness and not actual learning, he talks a lot about fostering and maintaining friendships and he's the most overtly friendly right alongside the Iron Menial
>>729248083>the mind broken woman who hid behind a book shelf from SellenWhy, WHY are you people so bad at the lore? Rennala was HIDING from Sellen, if you bother to check behind the bookshelf in the library. Fucking hell.You’d have much more of an argument by assuming it was Ranni. Not her brain dead mother.
>>729248178>worldliness isn’t actual learningYou’re gay
>>729248348It's still learning in its own right yeah but people make the mistake of thinking he's an academic and not a traveler and professional friend.
>>729248263>the mind broken woman who hid for Sellen but not a Tarnished managing to force their way into the roomPoor argument, Sellen ain't shit compared to Rennala as a sorcerer, pride goeth before a fall is the whole point of her becoming a meatball immediately after that
>>729248392He’s of the Hierodas conspectus, but he has never been to Raya Lucaria, and this implies the academy likely sends people abroad to recruit more intellectuals. They have to get their populace from somewhere. The Scholar is possibly related to Liurnia, since his disease is likely albinauric in nature. He’s a hedge scholar. A hedge academic. Never been home.
>>729248263I thought she just pushed granny out of the way to do her thing, then granny takes her spot back after selling turns into a scrotum. Not really any active intent behind granny's actions, she's too busy coming down off the wine.
>>729248487Okay. So you actually are retarded. Rennala is in no condition to do anything. Her state is even compared to slumber. You’re also failing to understand that the graven masses are artificial and don’t just happen.
>>729248610It's never explicitly stated what's going on with her, but there's not really anybody else around to turn Sellen into a graven mass and I really don't think she wanted to be subject to the torture method she used herself against other conspectus students.
>>729248610Rennala has the mind of a child at present anon. Sellen arrived to the library, saw how fucked Rennala was mentally, pitied her rather than kill her, and pushed her away from the centre. It’s that easy to picture.
>>729248715And then turned into a meatball for no reason>I TURNED MYSELF INTO A GRAVEN MASS TARNY>I'M GRAVEN MASS SELLEEEEEEEEN
>>729248691>but there's not really anybody else around to turn Sellen into a graven massRanni’s contingency spell is in the room. Unless you want to assume Sellen already beat the illusory Rennala boss?Listen. The entire fucking academy would have a reason to go against Sellen, since her experiments were described as the “nightmare of the academy”. There’s even a graven mass guarding her prison at the Witchbane ruins, which implies the graven masses aren’t all that happy with her. Again, they are experiments, and it’s likely Sellen had greater projects in mind, similar to the Hornsent and their jars. She wouldn’t have stopped at the ‘seeds of stars’, when you are left to consider what they grow into.You people need to think more critically.
>>729245401classic
>>729248782She would have needed someone to deliver her dozens of heads to the library. She would have needed an assistant to chop off her head and remove her heart the way you did (well, not the head part). It’s weird how people think she did this to herself. Alone. It’s very possible she was attacked and made into a mockery of her cruel research. I reckon she had a lot of enemies.
The majority of the people who play this game only skim the lore and are insufferable to talk to
>>729248984NTA but turning into a Graven Mass is a natural process that occurs to retards like her and some of the other sorcerer's in the towers that fuck around and find out. Rennala is a lobotomite, she didn't do shit
>>729243815With the way the game so desperately wants you to simp for this blue bitch, who is likely the individual most responsible for the shattering war, who is an open murderer, is very repulsive.
>>729249106>NTA but turning into a Graven Mass is a natural process that occurs to retards like herNo. Glintstone crystallization is the natural process. You aren’t even following the conversation. The graven masses are explicitly mad science experiments. They don’t just happen naturally. This is one of those areas I roll my eyes at. You need to be a bit smarter.’
>>729249106As another said. Rennala DID not do it. She is mentally out of commission. She was pushed to the side by Sellen. The wizard balls aren’t a natural cause. They are artificially made.
>>729249289>who is likely the individual most responsible for the shattering warMarika is responsible for that thougheverGodwyn's death isn't the actual catalyst, Marika vanishing, taking Radagon with her and shattering the Elden Ring is the catalystAlso the Shattering is just a suicide plot on her own end, Hewg makes this much more explicit when he lets slip his whole purpose there is to make a god-slaying weapon
>>729249370The graven masses are a process that occurs to retards that perform mad science experiments, like Sellen. True, thank you for conceding. You need to be a bit smarter.
>>729249478So you think those balls suck people in? Lol. No. Sellen is a serial killer and she makes horrific displays as her version of a serial killer’s ritual. She chalks it up to scientific research. And to be fair, most cutting edge science is psychopathic.
dont you just love it when lore fags high on their own farts get angry at people who only played this game like one time
INT stands for Incredbly Nice Titties, males cap at 70 and it gives it round tought pectorals, but women go beyond that and huge breasts = huge magic.
Does it matter? Anyone over like 50 int fucks themselves some how by doing magic shit.
>>729245118>Meteorite Staff/Staff of Loss>Academy Glintstone Staff (sorry thops)>Nights Comet>Carian Slicer>Rock SlingDas it mane. All are super easy to get
Reminder that a fucking wolf can cast fucking CometHow smart are sorcerers really?
The sheer amount of people who still don’t *get* Sellen’s questline …
>>729249464>Marika vanishing, taking Radagon with her and shattering the Elden Ring is the catalystWhich was done out of grief/revelation/who the fuck knows, immediately following the death of Godwyn. If Godwyn hadn't been killed, Marika/Radagon would not have shattered the Elden Ring. Meaning yes, Ranni is the one who is most behind everything. If Ranni hadn't had Godwyn killed, the Shattering would not have happened. If Ranni hadn't gotten Godwyn killed, Malenia wouldn't have ever farted into Radahn's mouth.Miquella wouldn't have ever Mohglested the Mohgster, there wouldn't be deathblight everywhere, Morgott wouldn't be running the capital, and (you) wouldn't have gotten back up to kill a fucking slug and eat some crab with ya boi
99.99% of ER fans are so stupid lol “Nuh uh it’s not feminist it’s a female moment game”
Will discordfags ever recover from the assblasting this game give them or will they continue to post inane drivel like this forever?
>>729251379gave them*
Miyazaki is no different from George beyond speed of production.
>>729251574George can at least create compelling characters for his fantasy universe.
99.99% of ER fans are so stupid lol"Yuh uh it's feminist it's a feminist game"
I don't get the stupid shit in these series, it tries to ride vibes but it doesn't explain shit.>Dark SoulsSorceries are for pussy dragons that don't have scales and wannabe dragons>BloodborneSorceries are for whoever just who has the most eyes in their skull>Elden RingSorceries are for people who look at the night sky too much
>>729250873is it a trans allegory? enlighten us
>>729251276>>729251828The worldbuilding is complete garbage either way, claiming it for your movement is not much of a win.
>>729251574GRRM has more compelling worlds and lore than anything Miyazaki has shat out. Idk how he got involved and was ok to smear his name by including it in this Jap garbage.
>>729248263>You’d have much more of an argument by assuming it was Ranni. Not her brain dead mother.Ranni literally has no idea about what's happening there, especially since you can do the entire questline after she fucks off, sorry but you're as stupid as him
>>729251379This is all it takes to convince Fromdrones that any criticism of any Souls game ever is the result of an international internet conspiracy to make it seem like not everyone in the universe enjoys everything Miyazaki makes.
>>729252262>Ranni literally has no idea about what's happening there, especially since you can do the entire questline after she fucks off, sorry but you're as stupid as himLorelet alert. Ranni isn’t actually trying to kill you. She’s asking you to keep up the charade that her mother is still around and well. She absolutely knows you’re there.
>>729252262>Ranni literally has no idea about what's happening thereShe interferes in your fight with Renalla and summons her illusory phase 2 form. She even has voice lines when it happens, retard.
>>729252346>Ranni quite literally never brings up the fact that you beat her mother's ass>"yeah bro she totally knows"You're so retarded
>>729252334I get not enjoying it. It's spamming hourly threads that tips me off.
>>729251874You’ll notice that Miyazaki ripped a lot of ER’s themes from George’s books. Like, the fire monks and their blood mages are basically the red priests to a point, they’re just more obnoxiously more fantasy.But I disagree about Miyazaki not being a good world builder. He just rushes his shit a lot. More than is necessary. His ideas transcend his games, and that is why they always share so many themes. It’s almost like he’s always worked on the same exact setting, just with different takes.
>>729252457You didn’t beat her ass, as she’s fine. She also gives you a key to the library room. She knows you were there.
Ah yes, Ranni trying to kill you while you're looking for the fingerslayer blade, while she's sleeping because of her doll body
>>729252457>expecting that sort of awareness from fromsoft NPCsJust be lucky Ranni doesn't disappear from the game after you enter hogwarts without talking to Rogier in the chapel in stormveil.
>>729252346>Ranni isn’t actually trying to kill youYou can literally die in that fight
>>729249070>Radahn is le wholesome reddit gigachad >Messmer did nothing wrong>Allegations beaten>Miquellester>Ranni enjoyer (has no idea what her ending means)>All I know is bonk xD>endless radahn vs malenia debate
>>729251102I don't think Godwyn was actually the catalyst whatsoever, given of course that Marika was just as resentful of the Fingers' influence as any of the demigods (dissolution of the Golden Order by necessity also means throwing off the Two Fingers) and the Shattering can't have been *that* fast after his death due to the proliferation of TWLID and the displacement of the Banished Knights and Death Knights or the formation of the Mausoleum KnightsThe Golden Order didn't fall apart overnight, is the point, in fact Marika was apparently planning for some kind of exit strategy from the Golden Order for a very long time given she's been controlling Radagon's life since at the very latest the war against the giants and the forming of the Erdtree
>>729252457>Ranni quite literally never brings up the fact that you beat her mother's ass>"The name of Ranni the Witch is already sullied by thee.I will not brook disobedience in this matter."Retard
>>729252808Game mechanics, anon. She knows you revive at Grace.
>>729252552I would have agreed with you before Shadow of the Erdtree. The worldbuilding in that was so egregiously slapped together with no regard for the base game that it feels like the lore was written two months before the DLC released.
>>729252815>(has no idea what her ending means)Fuck off from the planet, take the Elden Ring with her as the succeeding Empyrean, do not reform any kind of all-encompassing government that rules by divine right, let Man figure it out on their much less deity-driven planet, it's difficult whether she means "thousand years of chill night" literally or metaphorically since Miquella meant his own "thousand year voyage guided by compassion" quite literally
>>729252851That's when you find her as a tiny doll, she's embarrassed, that's what she means. You're actually trying to use Ranni acting as a tsundere to endear her to the player as an argument lmao
>>729253041Proof?
>>729249070Caring about Fromsoft lore is generally a waste of time and Elden Ring's specifically is retarded because of how much got cut and rewritten while it was getting made. Meteor events, Horah Loux as a mentor character in the Round Table, etcThe bandwagoners for ER are insufferable.
>>729253080>Proof?"forget... forget," idiot
>>729252894Don’t get me wrong. I really think he dropped the ball with ER’s expansion, both mechanically speaking and lore wise, and I’m only really fond of the Hornsent culture (which appear to have replaced the Eternal culture). I remember thinking Marika was the artificial lord the Nox created, who she then betrayed, but NOPE it was the Hornsent. There’s likely still a connection there, but Miyazaki put threw a whole other step into it.
women are more emotional so they control emotional magic better
>>729253080So you don't even remember her dialogue? Go look it up on the wiki, not spoonfeeding you
>>729253096>because of how much got cut and rewritten while it was getting made. Meteor events, Horah Loux as a mentor character in the Round Table, etcMiyazaki doesn’t actually respect the worlds he makes. He always rushes his games and never actually polishes them. You can blame Japan’s business model for forcing him to make his games this way, but, at this point you’d think he’d have some sway to work on things more thoroughly. Elden Ring really needed another year of development.
>>729253191I accept your concession.
>>729253168>sex>sheckwhat did she mean by this?
>>729252894>just make and write what you think looks cool>continuity? consistency? whatever, they'll call it good anywaysAt least Dark Souls and Bloodborne had some form of cohesion and overarching narrative.
>I remember thinking Marika was the artificial lord the Nox created, who she then betrayed, but NOPE it was the HornsentGlad I’m not the only one who thought this
>>729243815>men are BASED str or STILLBETTERTHANINT dexkino!!!
>>729253314A woman 1/10th the size of Radahn could equal him in physical combat. This does imply that women are stronger than men pound for pound in this setting :^)
>>729253125The Nox are part of the overall alchemy allegory that is Elden Ring's backdrop and they specifically represent both silver and quicksilver, a "lesser" precious metal to gold, and mercury as a main component of alchemic brews throughout history respectively (as the Chinese court can attest), the Nox were allegorically punished for attempting to establish silver as the predominant metal over gold, and/or for mimicking gold through silverThe hornsent are obsessed with the formation of gold through ascension to godhood but are extremely, EXTREMELY fixated on the actual "crucible" step in the alchemic process and are delusionally obsessed with crucible jars as a punishment and uplifting process, in general they're associated with the Primordial Crucible but an even wilder and less caring version of it than the Crucible Knights (headed by Godfrey/Hoarah) manifested, or the Omens did as possible cursed hornsent birthed by Marika
>>729253235If he doesn't respect the worlds then he shouldn't bother making them in the first place and made straight up boss rushes instead of pretending to be a fake RPG.
>>729253498I think that's for GRRM to decide whether they "disrespected" his setting or not
>>729243815I wanna smooch her
>>729246969Recluse is the whole reson the nightlord came into being in the first place, shes at least on par with Marika and Ranni.
>Arguing about Elden Ring power levelsGenuinely grim
>>729253468I think both the Nox and the Hornsent were obsessed with reviving some ancient alchemy or divine project, they are just stuck in their respective realms. The ancestral followers are similar to the Hornsent, except they live underground and decry metal working and civilization. Hornsent culture is almost like a play, or an act. An emulation. Perhaps they are trying to be like the Rauh.
>>729253530GRRM said he had no idea what was going on.
>>729253414>could equal>literally “poorman’s rose” herself because she was jobbing in the very end>her suicidal nuke just brought more misery for everyone rather than advancing her brother’s plan>Radahn still tanked the nuke until he went mad, and roamed for centuries as a mindless beast while also keeping the sky still even while reduced to a mindless husk of himselfIf anything she was the display of how needlessly cruel and self destructive a woman moment can be
>>729253235>Miyazaki doesn’t actually respect the worlds he makes.Yeah, I think this is where my strong distaste for Souls is rooted. Because in the long lost days of Demon's Souls, it felt like there was a real love for worldbuilding and slow combat and interesting mechanics that somehow survived a troubled development. Now, every game he makes under increasingly better circumstances somehow feels ever less coherent and made with less care than the last. Maybe it's autism, maybe it's contempt, but either way, it just feels like he's shitting on my plate at this point and hoping I'll buy it when Vaati tells me it's a sirloin steak.
>>729253601>shes at least on par with Marika and Ranni.Lmao no.
>>729253728That doesn't mean he thinks his setting was disrespected, just the opposite since part of the agreement was obviously From can do whatever the hell they want with it past the Shattering
>>729253728He should have sued them for coasting off his name and not being clear with his vision.
>>729253734The Battle of AeoniaRadahn and Malenia locked in stalemateThen, the scarlet rot blooms
>>729253601It's purposefully vague on who Heolstor is or who the real Nightlord is beyond Heolstor across everybody's remembrances and it's probable that ALL of them are true across multiple continuing NightsAt minimum where Recluse is concerned she's a blood magic afficionado and a coven witch so she's at or around the level of Ranni's unnamed mentor
>>729246275NOOOOOOOOOOO we NEED to argue about lore for the 100000000000000th time!
>>729253786She borked the whole timeline and then can solo the nightlord herself, idk how theres a lmao no here when they all summoned a god.
>>729253847Radahn was the victor, Malenia blooming nuked Caelid and forced a stalemate through mutual loss
>>729253790I don't think I have to defer to GRRM to realize that Miyazaki doesn't actually care about coherence or continuity. I'm just not going to play games when I get the sense the creator doesn't care about them.
>>729253830He should. If someone turned my story into some vague fromslop story that only makes sense if you're good at making shit up and believing whatever you make up I would sue. Unless I just wrote characters' names on a napkin and only wrote the words "family all wanted power and betrayed each other"
>>729253983>forced a stalemateThe stalemate was already there before she bloomed, please, reread the post
>>729253847>trailer showing him standing in sheer dominance while she was busy adjusting her grafted arm (probably damaged)>had to resort of a retarded suicide move that ended up not even killing him>all while she was reduced in a comatose state and rescued by her own simpsYou don’t win a stalemate by nuking yourself, a suicide move is only resonable if you are 100% sure you are just losing anyway.It was just a massive Woman moment that even ended up ruining Miquela’s plan
>>729248009Based sub 10 INT STR Chad.
>>729254010>bawww why doesn't GRRM think his setting was raped
>>729254117Because he didn't write shit.
>>729254051>>729254067
Malenia was fighting Radahn to an stalemate before she bloomed. And Morgott outright defeated him. These are canon in-game facts
>>729253905One. Nightreign isn’t canon.Two. Game mechanics. You can solo the game as a naked person if you’re good enough.
>>729254010If anyone else was given this rare shinning opportunity they wouldn't have wasted it this bad. Even David Cage would write something better from it or Todd Howard. Any other dev would have done a better job at doing GRRM's contributions justice than what the nothing burger we got from ER.
>>729254152>take offense on behalf of GRRM but also GRRM doesn't matterMasterful gambit sir
>>729254209>blind retard thinks red hair = Radahn>dumb retard thinks 'the mightiest of the demigods' being defeated by an (in universe) literal who wouldn't be spoken about at least ONCE in a game where all major battles have monuments erected in their memory
>>729254209If we’re being realistic, we should not assume health bars exist in lore, and even demigods like Radahn got taken out by a single sword jab sprinkled with the rot. A single good move by someone like Morgott should be able to topple over another demigod. For all we know a single glintstone pebble to the forehead is enough to kill a demigod the same way a bullet irl will take out a bodybuilder.
>>729254209Morgott was a real G. It's a shame people shit on him.
>>729254386kek so now the monuments matter? Guess we can agree that Malenia and Radahn were in a stalemate before she bloomed then
>>729254386I thought Radahn's siege on the capital was canon.
>>729254337I just wanted a game with an actually good story and compelling characters, something GRRM excels at and something Miyazaki didn't deliver in any way.
In Nightreign a woman (the Recluse) birthed the Night Lord, and according to feminist women “there is nothing more magical than childbirth” so… …magic is female I guess…Wow. This world really is a feminist one.
>>729254010Why should he sue? He knew they were winging it. It’s even fun. “Write us a cool world and let us ruin it”. “Okay!”.
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>>729254479Miyazaki is the worst storyteller evidence by Deracine and he never writes coherent shit for a reason. GRRM charges out the ass for more effort than names. Expecting a good story in a Fromsoft game is massively stupid.
>>729254209Malenia had bloomed once before, and every time she blooms it's because she's losing. She killed her mentor because she was losing, she nuked Caelid because she was losing, and she tried to bloom on you because, again, she was losing. Malenia is a womanchild that makes the world worse because she's really obsessed with not losing sword fights to impress her shota brother.
>>729254386>Morgott>Literal whoThe Veiled Monarch, rightful King of Leyndell by blood, and who ran around as an Omen Terminator, the only character who managed to master both holy and blood magic and use them at the same time.
>>729254769>She killed her mentor because she was losing,Her mentor was that flowing curved sword blue nigga
>>729254464Go and find some in-game text talking about it then. The only person we know sieged Leyndell is Godefroy>After the First Defense of Leyndell, Kristoff earned the hero's honor of Erdtree Burial for the feat of capturing Godefroy the GraftedAnd even that is still more of an implication than a fact. I think the general assumption is that the first was Godefroy and Godrick, the second was Rykard, as Leyndell definitely was in the process of trying to attack the Volcano Manor at some point, perhaps in retaliation. And one of the sieges is featured in a cinematic, where the troops have Godrick's colours>>729254456Most in game sources (whether NPC or narration) agree that Radahn and Malenia 'fought to a standstill' yes. Off the top of my head I don't remember if that was before or after she bloomed. But we also have a cinematic literally showing what happened.>Radahn cuts off Malenia's arm>Malenia jumps on Radahn and heckin' BLOOMSIt was a stalemale because Radahn was left a mad drooling lunatic and Malenia had to be dragged away by one of her bitches. Although you fast forward to the time of the game and she is 'recovered' and Radahn is still ROTTED. So in the long term, she won.
>>729254863Whoever he was he's dead now, because she explicitly killed him by blooming because he beat her one too many times in practice or something.
>>729254904The trailer doesn't even get the location of their fight right. Are you one of the people that still thinks Marika shattered the ring exclusively because Godwyn died?
>>729254856ESL-kun, improve your reading comprehension. IN UNIVERSE. >The Second Defense of Leyndell. The Fell Omen stacks high the corpses of heroes>Having slaughtered countless champions during the Shattering, the Fell Omen has become a horror to those who harbor ambitions for the Erdtree, or for Lordship.People don't know Margit = Morgott. That's why he is the "Veiled Monarch" because he doesn't want people to know the lord of the city is an ugly cursed monster. His whole thing is killing anyone who tries to come near the throne. Which is why he keeps corpses of those who tried outside the city, and goes around trying to kill anyone with aspirations of Lordship, and has his black riders doing the same.
>>729246392I think they are just drug addict junkies.
Lorefags, why doesn't Godfrey give a shit that you killed his son?
>>729243815It's not a girl, Elden Ring only has body types not gender.
>>729255297Godfrey is a might-makes-right battle retard. And he did care about Morgott, but he knows the game and knows Morgott just wasn't able to win. So now it's him versus you for all the marbles, and that's all that matters.
>>729255192Same person, he would've been present at the battle as Margit, and the fact people didn't know they were the same person does nothing to absolve Radahn of his loss. Cope. Morgott won.
>>729255174The fight between Malenia and Radahn? It doesn't say in the trailer/cinematic. It looks like Caelid but who fucking knows. As for Marika shattering the ring, that's not a subject I've looked into a lot as I don't care. But my headcanon is that she did it to try and escape the situation she was in and to spite Radagon.The Elden Ring is too nebulous for me to be that interested in it, even if it's what the whole game is focused on. It's just a macguffin for me.
>>729255297Because he was filthy Omen beast.
>>729255297Because you're his son too, just like all the other Tarnished
>>729255297He did. He tries to murder you immediately after finding his body. The fact he has other reasons to murder you doesn't mean he wasn't also trying to murder you for that too.
>>729255376I have always wondered what sort of interaction they'd have had if the player hadn't killed them both.He clearly cared for him. Would he have convinced Morgott to abdicate the throne and permit him to burn the tree?
>>729255391Shouldn't you be shitting in a street somewhere?>Margit is Morgott>Most people in universe do not know this>Radahn would've therefore lost to a literal who that is going around slaughtering people, in this situation>Radahn also tried to take Leyndell and failed, according to you>Nobody in the game ever mentions this>Despite a healthy chunk of the game's lore and discussions in universe specifically being the demigods and what they get up to>Despite there being monuments dedicated to every major fight between demigods>Gideon never thinks to mention to the player: Hey Radahn might have lost to the Fel Omen and been rotted by Malenia but he's still gonna need an entire army to take down, Tarnished-kunYou're so wrapped up in your power-wankery you're not using your poo-addled brain. It isn't about who is stronger between Radahn and Morgott, it's that the two have never fought each other and have no reason to. Radahn never attacked the capital. He was Radagon's son and was a huge Godfrey fanboy. Go and find a single fact to back up your claims, oh wait, you can't, because they don't exist.
>>729255736>You're so wrapped up in your power-wankeryThis is ironic coming from the guy that doesn't want to accept that his HERO lost a fight and fought a woman to a draw.
>>729255736Look at all this cope
>>729245418This. The Nightfarers are framed as mythical legends outside space and time.
>DUDE THE FINAL BOSS OF THE DLC IS LE HECKING PRIME RADAHN (POWERED UP BY GAY FEMBOY RAPE)Miyazaki really fucked up, this shit isn't Dragon Ball, now this fanbase is filled with retards arguing about power levels
>>729255945I think that anon is exaggerating and none of them could stand up to a character like Marika for example but they are pretty strong in lore. Heolstor being Wylder for example
>>729244772Sellen was his student, she's just self-aggrandizing again.
>>729253168tight spot ahead,therefore,thrusting attack required
While I agree that Miyazaki could respect or flesh out his world building a bit, I think we should still be a lot grateful for what he has given us.
>>729256462Eh, ER lore was generally unremarkable and not worthy of discussion. It comes in two flavors, cut and dry simplistic only very slightly occluded by item text, or ambiguity hell that doesn't really matter in any way. Sekiro was still the peak of FS storytelling.
>>729255297he is introduced as longingly looking at his son's body and then immediately turns around to kick your ass, dude.
>>729256056She also says Lusat “languishes” in his imprisonment when it’s more likely he just wandered into a cave to vibe like Onze did.
>>729247407Gwyn larps as Zeus/Jupiter but he's actually Cronus/Saturn (even though the war against the dragons seems like the Titanomachy), so him being an eternal boomer that simps for his daughters, banishes his one strong son, and literally castrates the other is completely on message
>>729256686I don't think he's mad about it, he's aware of the game and knows that this is just how it goes. He's kicking your ass because you are eachother's final grace-led opponents, and he's a generally gracious opponent.
>>729255736It's almost like the lore is slapped together dogshit and Miyazaki doesn't give a fuck.
>>729243815Ranni is the best mangina simp detector that video games have ever devised.
>>729256682>Sekiro was still the peak of FS storytelling.I would actually give that award to AC6. In general, the less involved Miyazaki is, the better the storytelling is.
>>729256809He waited for you to beat up everyone and tried to steal it at the end. He didn't fight Maliketh. He didn't beat the fire giant.
>>729256682Forget Elden Ring. He’s made a lot of people very happy.
>>729256914I can see the argument, yeah. I really like AC6 as well from a story perspective, but Allmind/Snail weren't as compelling as antagonists compared to Genichirou/Owl to me. The moral conundrums around coral were meaningfully complex and fun to discuss though.>>729256916By his own admission he just got there late. Sort of a consequence of cut content.
>>729256807Gwyn was a massive asshole. Pretty sure he raped Priscilla too, and that she is Gwyndolin’s mom.
>some pathetic wuss is having a repeated melty over a game where all carian sorceresses fall for faithchads
>>729257456The dlc turning the Carians into a sex joke pisses me off
>>729257959That's just a typical shoujo romance plot
