Zoomers are calling it mid and saying Morrowind is better
>>729246220only my opinion matters
>>729246220No they aren't
its your fault
>>729246220but morrowind always was better
>>729246220So?
>>729246220maybe in your dreamsnot even morrowind's biggest fans are playing that trash game
>>729246220everything but the combat is better in morrowind. I don’t even mind morrowinds combat but I’d be lying if I said it wasn’t dated.
>>729246220I wish we could port the good looking remastered characters into the vanilla world/environment.
>>729246868morrowind's quests are dogshit
>>729246332Which is fine, but stop trying to impose it on others and responding with hostility if it doesn't align.
>>729246896They're elder scrolls quests, yeah
>>729247013even arena had better quests
>>729246220no we zint, morriwinds combat is low zest
>>729246220Zoomers also say that:>The SW prequels are better than the OT>Jurassic Park 3 is the best one>Dragon Ball GT is a worthy successor to Z, even better in some ways>Alien 3 is the best one>Terminator 2 is a bad movieAnd so on, and so on. They have no culture of their own that doesn’t involve paying streamers to say their name and sucking off ghetto rat culture, so their only recourse is sifting through our table scraps, and playing the contrarian game, because “Contrarian=Smart”.
>>729246220Zoomers are not playing Morrowind. They're watching essays about Morrowind then saying they played it.
I played oblivion for the first time with this version and liked it a lot. It’s sucks it’s still buggy as shit though
>>729246220an unc made this post lmao
Project tamriel alone is bigger and higher quality than oblivion and Skyrim combined.
>>729246896there are a lot of good ones and the exploration makes up for it.
>>729247182forced meme cock sucker
>>729247079you’re a huge fag if you like dragon ball gt
>>729246287God, I love fucking zoomettes. You can call me unc, but your girl calls me daddy.
>>729247269>there are a lot of good ones like?
>>729247339unc mad asf twinnem
>>729246220regardless of the bad gameplay the remaster is amazing in VR, its so purty
>>729246220Based zoomers
>>729246896At least there’s more than one questgiver per faction. Oblivion’s Fighter’s Guild was embarrassing.
>>729247339unc...
>zoomers>playing morrowind
people can say anything they want, what they do is what matters.
>>729247258Still waiting for Markarth 5 years and counting
>>729247820uhhhh they're all playing openmw or something
>>729247346dude thats so epic xD upvoted!
>>729246220skoomersjust thought of it, thank me later
>>729247872just like how dwarf fortress trannies are all not playing the steam version
>>729246220
>>729246220Zoomers never played Morrowind, fatso
>>729246220>Morrowind is betteryes
>game really wants you to use DLSS frame-gen>DLSS frame-gen causes unplayable levels of ghosting where swords leave behind cumtrails
>>729248056Truke
>>729248274>leave behind cumtrailsthat's one less mod to install then.
>>729246220skyrim was my first elder scrollsfor me Skyrim > Morrowind > Daggerfall > OblivionArena is unplayable
>>729246220They are correct and as usual have better taste than millennials
I can't believe I almost purchased this piece of trash
>>729246868the better morrowind haters get over the combat and complain about other shit because it's not like Oblivion or Skyrim are within a thousand miles of having actual good combat
>>729246220I can't believe I bought this full price on launch
>>729246868dice roll combat isn't bad it's just that it's not animated. If they animated the enemy dodging your swing it wouldn't feel so clunky
>>729246220For real though, I was one of the contrarians saying oblivion > skyrim, but then I played this (I didn't play oblivion since skyrim came out), it's incredible how godawful its dungeons and writing were. i know firmly believe the opposite
>>729246868>everything but the gameplay is better in morrowind (a video game)morrowkeks telling on themselves constantly with their gay boring gamequick, post a video essay about how good the lore is
>>729246220it do be like that
>>729246896they really arent that bad. its a bit of a meme to say oblivions quests are so much better
>>729249769I like all the elder scrolls games, I don’t feel the need to get into a pissing contest over them. the dialogue and exploration are fantastic imo, and I like how much agency the player has in upgrading guilds and clans or just breaking the game in any way you want. there’s also something about the hopeless and desperation in the story and setting that is a nice break from good guy wins bad guy bad prototype of the later games. I also really like oblivion but I didn’t feel like it was a 10/10 game because of all the items and features they removed from morrowind. but knights of the nine is a fantastic expansion. Skyrim is honestly just kind of dogshit all around. it’s like what wow is to MMOs just kind of a middle of the road checklist theme park. not even the faction quest lines are interesting. its saving grace is probably the visuals, combat, and mods.
>>729249429they dont even need to animate that, just have it thud against the armor and cause no blood. would be relatively easy to implement in a remaster.
>>729246220It is, Oblivion is the worst of both worlds.It lacks the creativty, world-building, magic system and immersion of Morrowind.It lacks the polish, QoL, scale and sheer mod support of Skyrim. It's easily the worst one. If you want something you can easily pick up and play get Skyrim. If you want a true blue RPG that forces you to commit to the world and your role in it play Morrowind. If you want a good mix of the two, play Modded Skyrim with like 12 Conversion mods.There is never a reason to play Oblivion.
>>729249429the funny part is that Gothic 2 basically implemented Morrowind dice combat except instead of "missing" you always hit but only do real damage on a "critical" and I have literally never heard anyone complain about that diceroll in my life.
>>729246220Morrowind is mid too
>>729246220Oblivion has always been a worse game than Morrowind, Skyrim, FO3, FONVIt's better than FO4, 76, and Starfield I guess
>>729251772kotor had similar combat but that game gets nonstop praise
>>729251923I never played 76 or Starfield but yeah, this anon is right. Even F03 which is the closest game to it at least has some intresting quests and locations to make the constantly repeating subway dungeons bareable.
>>729246868Combat in all Elder games is running up with a sword, seeing a torso fill your camera vision, and just whack away over and over, it sucks unless you mod them
>>729246220And 2/3 of them have never played it.
>>729246220>Zoomers are calling it mid unsurprising>and saying Morrowind is betterI'm going to need some evidence for that one
>>729246220Then they are based and correct.
>>729246220I have hard time believing that any zoomies ever played morrowind
>>729246220Zoomers don't even know what Morrowind is. Don't even pretend they know how to play that game either.Thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHzLYl8u1NU
>>729246220zoomers don't "play" morrowind they watch a video essay about it then spend 20 minutes walking around seyda neen before never playing it ever again
>>729252124Dagoth Ur was a big meme last year and now Morrowind has become one of those games people pretend to have played to get gamer cred with the occasional zoomer actually playing it.I know cause I'm one of them. Played with OpenMW.
>zoomers say>zoomers think>zoomers prefer
>>729252274Morrowind is surprisingly popular with Zoomers, a lot of the developers for Tamriel Rebuilt are actually Zoomers.
They are correct. Especially with mods these days.
>>729253552If we're counting mods then skyrim blows morrowshit out of the water easily no contest, oblivion is still garbage even with mods however
>>729253887We are talking about Oblivion.
>>729253887Morrowind has a working multiplayer mod and Skyrim just has a patreon scam.
>>729246220zoomers hate morrowind tho?
>>729253887there are no good Skyrim combat mods. the skill tree system is inherently shit
>>729246868Oblivion is when Bethesda stealth became Thief-like, before then it was broken and kind of shit
>>729254138There are mods that make it Thief style now.
>>729253953No you're posting in a bait thread about zoomers that evolved into a general elder scrolls discussion thread
>>729246220morrowind always was better. oblivion's still good though.
>>729254080NTA but Ordinator begs to differ. Don't know whats his deal with Morrowind though.
>>729254013I play single player games to get away from people and enjoy my time, why the fuck would I want morrowind to be multiplayer? What a stupid gimmick
>>729254235Ordinator plus the mod that gives you perk points for doing major quests.
>>729254235There is no "deal" modded skyrim is just better than modded morrowind. Vanilla morrowind is better than vanilla skyrim sure.
>>729254332Because it's fun.
>>729254235He's in every thread whining about this. If you try to give him any example he just moves the goalposts.
>>729254475Skyrim has nothing that's as good as TR, Home of the Nords or Project Cyrodiil (except maybe Vicn mods).
>>729254480>turns morrowind into robloxoh my kino this is BASED unc you cooked here 6 7 GYATT
>>729254625See what I mean?
>>729254161Really?
>>729254585Beyond Skyrim is better than Tamriel Rebuilt.
>>729254697https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/49614
>>729254708Lmao.
>>729254730Vast majority of Tamriel Rebuilt is empty land with generic NPCs that have no dialogue. Beyond Skyrim objectively has a higher level of quality and attention to small details even if there's less worldspace. Nice argument btw.
>>729246220any good mods out yet? last I checked there was like a single animation replacer and considering how dogshit the vanilla animations are this means modding is worse than for starfield.
>>729254552>He's in every threadOh my god take your meds you seething faggot
>>729254812how many regions has beyond skyrim released yet, 13 years after the games release?
>>729254665Why can't he just have a real discussion? Why does he need to bump the thread by pretending to be retarded?
>>729254812Saying "Beyond Skyrim is better than Tamriel Rebuilt." isn't an argument either so I didn't bother. BS is a glorified demo with a bunch of generic quests with decent voice acting and a nice world space. Other than that it's quite shallow with no factions or interesting story, nothing interesting combat or gear wise. It's mediocre even by Skyrim modding standards.
>>729255008Remind me of the plethora of interesting factions, quests and gear from Tamriel Rebuilt because all I remember was a vast empty world with fuckall to do besides hold W.
>>729255228Maybe 15 years ago sure.
>>729255228You didn't play it then, when you finally do I can recommend the Imperial Legion questline, I had a lot of fun with it. But don't bother replying to me again until you do.
>>729254235it’s still the skill tree system its just expanded to be more passive traits. I prefer the oblivion remaster system where you get 95% of your tools from the get go and just get meaningful passives as you continue to use the weapons. damage should come from better quality weapons not a perk tree
The Joy of Painting and that real time fishing mod are great.
>>729255286I did play it which is how I know your feelings are hurt and this discussion is only being driven by your emotions. The empire is already in the game btw TR didn't add that.
>>729246220any lewd mod for this?
>>729255369Ok.>>729255354I really liked Death Consumes All and the Vicn mods, those or the only reason I'd ever reinstall Skyrim again. Just waiting for Glenmoril to get updated now.
>>729255384oblivion? no, are you fucking crazy? goddamn porn addict
>>729254950Guess it takes longer to make worldspaces that actually have things in it>>729255574>Ok. Emotional like a teenage girl. Dry your tears and get over it
>>729255228pull up the wiki if you're genuinely this retarded. tamriel rebuilt is packed so full of interesting side quests with a myriad of unique gear its ridiculous. Almas Thirrs temple quest line writing mogs every single mod ever released for skyrim.
>>729246868>everything but the combat is better in morrowinduhhhh>graphics>quests>npc dialog>stealth>physics
You guys fall for the most easy bait.
>>729255863morrowind being miles better than oblivion is not bait, retard.
it only becomes bait when you lose the argument
>>729255662It took 3 posts to get this answer and not even from the retard I asked it to, so i suspect it's probably not as good as you claim, anyway don't care
>>729246220zoomers wouldn't be that based.
>>729255863>You guys fall for the most easy bait.>Everyone almost unanimously agree it's true>It's such a popular opinion the thread devovled into Morrowind Vs. Skyrim instead because that has more conflict/argument potential ???
>>729255953>>729256113you guys know he's talking about the dude arguing about morrowind vs skyrim mods right
>>729255953Oblivion has way better combat you double retard, and it actually scales the challenge with your character, so you don't 1 shot everything 10 hours in. You can actually block with your shield rather than pray to RNG, you can cast spells without sheathing your weapon etc, it was a massive upgrade
>>729256167It's not bait just because you and the other dipshit cried about it.
>>729256247Come on dude, you're an adult. Go hang out with your family.
It's amazing how Project Cyrodiil showed Oblivion could have been good if there was any effort put into it.
>>729256247>just left click until the carpal tunnel syndrome become too unbearable and you quitRiveting.
>>729246220>Build strength in Morrowind>Eventually hit enemies consistently and kill anything in 3-4 swings>Build One-Handed in Skyrim>Depending on how many profession skills you can buff your sword with you can shred enemies with Elemental Fury>Build Melee in Oblivion>Fights take dozens and dozens of hits for each singular enemy
>>729256352>Project CyrodiilAny faction you'd recommend? I tried the priest faction first time through and I was a little disappointed not gonna lie.
>>729256398I used to suffer from carpal tunnel until I switched to controller and now I can game for many hours with 0 issues. The human body was really not meant to game on a typing device.
>>729246220they are right
>>729255789I literally don’t care about graphics
>>729246220Are the zoomers in the room with us right now?
>>729246220Oblivion was always mid
>>729256591those walking animations on all the NPCs sliding their way across the towns are super distracting bro, idk how morrowboomers deal with it
should I finally play morrowind? what's the best way to go with it in 2025?
>>729256616Zoomer here, nice to meet you. Morrowind is one of my favorite games.Skyrim is goyslop for retards and small children. I played it when I was 14 and I thought it was shallow garbage even back then.Oblivion is straight dogshit. If you use the word "soul" to describe Oblivion then I will rape you.I was born in 2004 and these are my unironic opinions. Yes, I have 150+ hours in each game and no, I did not form my opinions from watching Youtube videos.Your response, soilennial?
>>729256516You're right, I have been using a controller more lately because of wrist issues. Never really tried playing a Bethesda game like that but maybe I'll give it a try next time.
>>729256491Kingdom of Anvil and Thieves Guild is a lot of fun.
>>729256776buy/pirate the game, download OpenMW, which is a modern fan made port, then play the game, I don't recommend any mods because they just ruin the retro aesthetic and make it look cringe, OpenMW already adds stuff like increased draw distance, high framerate, HD fonts and such
>>729256857>Your responseNice larp little man, back to reality now
>>729256667is it any worse than a character snapping to an animation like stairs, doors, vehicles in modern games?
>>729256942Cope and seethe uncy.
>>729256857>>729256942I am also a Zoomer and Morrowind is my second favorite game after Baldur's Gate 1.
>>729256776OpenMW. Do a basic Strength build with maybe Destruction Magic to get accustomed to the game first.
>playing Morrowind in 2025
>>729256992No but I will cum and sleep with your mom
>>729246220I doubt it. But they would be right if they are.
>>729246220Zoomers in their mid-late 20’s played oblivion as kids
>>729256857>I was born in 2004 and these are my unironic opinions.If you don't remember 9/11 I don't give a fuck what you think about anything.
>>729257092it has a built-in foid filter
>>729256857based rare zoomer with taste
>>729246220WTF I love zoomers now
>>729256928>>729257090ok here I go thenlet's see what's this all about
>>729246220I highly doubt the average zoomer is that based.
>>729258558Remember to use a weapon you actually have skill in and to keep your stamina up. It matters a lot for hitting.
>>729258558Have fun, fren.
>>729256591We could tell, there's no way anyone would claim modded morrowind is better than modded skyrim otherwise.
Love Oblivion, love Morrowind, the remake was ass. Runs like shit, crashes all the time and has all the bugs of the original (that were fixed even 20 years ago by mods), looks really generic as well (good lighting though)
>>729254723Incredible
>>729246220Oblivion is bethesdas worst game. The technology in it was great for its time and it has some good quests. Everything else is dog shit.
>>729259218There's insane shit people do in Morrowind mods. If trainwiz shows up he's usually posting a bunch of the cutting edge developments
>>729259540Speaking of trainwiz, wasn't he making his own game? Whatever came of that?
>>729259612It released in early access didn't it
>>729259612It's on steam
>>729246220I doubt there's ever been a zoomer that has actually played Morrowind but it is better than Oblivion.
>>729258796I don't even get it there's no comparison. Morrowind mods usually go like>look, we added a basic mechanic that is in every other TES game>look, we fixed this broken shit mechanic that doesnt work in vanillaSkyrim mods actually add NEW gameplay features and systems, make the combat more intuitive than just spamming attack, greatly increase options for roleplaying, etc. just generally improving the game in tangible ways rather than just fixing broken shit.
>>729260350More like>look, we added a massive questline and landmassMorrowind is already mechanically fine. And you can't fix skyrim's mechanics even with overhaul mods.
>>729259612Underspace? It came out already
>over 150gb of shit performance Nice upgrade
>>729260350If you really want to turn Elder Scrolls into rollslop then sure, it has the leg-up over Morrowind.
>>729259649>>729259774>>729260765Anyone play it? Was it any good?
>>729260613>>look, we added a massive questline and landmass: morrowind:)>look, we added a massive questline and landmass: skyrim):<
>>729260884I don't have "rollslop" mods installed nor was I referring to "rollslop" mods.
>>729260996It's great if you like exploration RPG. Little buggy and really needs voice acting though
>>729258912 Yeah I wanted to like the remake so bad, but it reeks of the “checkbox” style of development-like they knew what people asked for but completely missed why we loved the original. It’s not just about graphics, it’s the soul of the world, how weird and alien Morrowind felt. The remake just feels sanitized and soulless, like an Unreal demo with Morrowind textures thrown in.
>>729261054Turn that frown upside down
>>729261313The remake just highlighted that Oblivion was always bad.I can't believe they kept in level scaling
>>729260350They're right in saying content mods are worse in skyrim. because it's a more modern game, with more details, voice lines, etc. so it's automatically harder to develop new zones with professional quality in skyrim.
>>729246220There's always been universal agreement that Morrowind is better. Oblivion was known for being a huge downgrade across the board. If anything, it's mostly famous for being an absurd jankfest.
>>729260996It's the best space game in the last ten years.
>>729249429I never understood the issue with Morrowind's combat. At least eventually enemies stop dodging, but in Oblivion's case the HP spongeness of the enemies to make up for the lack of dodging only gets worse
>>729261486I think skyrim has plenty of good quest and landmass mods but what it is absolutely lacking is a variety of armor or clothing mods that aren't pornographic coomslop. It's easier to find a gay fairy riding a dragon dildo mod than to just find a set of medieval armor or something.
>>729261583It's very sad that that's such a low bar to clear.
