Why do they hate the PC so much? Was the game development of that game they made for Enix that bad? I had to dig out my Vita to play their games (muramasa, odin sphere, and dragon's crown)
>>729267972- Not wanting their assets to be reverse-engineered and stolen - Piracy- As revealed by Nightdive recently, most of videogame sales come from consoles, to the point where PC is pretty much negligible - The PC environment is already full to the brim with the kind of games VW makes- Their fanbase are console gamers- They port their games to Nintendo consoles so they get all the sales they could want So basically they have absolutely zero reasons to port their games to PC.
>>729268376>to the point where PC is pretty much negligible That is definitely dependent on the publisher or games. Capcom says they sell more on PC than consoles now.For Vanillaware, having old games just ported is cheap work to make a fortune for how many people want to play them on PC.
>>729268376>Not wanting their assets to be reverse-engineered and stolen>- PiracyEmulation. Pretty dumb reason. >As revealed by Nightdive recently, most of videogame sales come from consoles, to the point where PC is pretty much negligibleSounds like bullshit>The PC environment is already full to the brim with the kind of games VW makesThose games are like 100 times worse. Only Astlibra was fun.>Their fanbase are console gamersCant exactly have a PC fanbase if yoy dont have games on the PC. I refuse to buy a console. >So basically they have absolutely zero reasons to port their games to PC.Yeah but its not convienient for me
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_Earth_ZeroThis must have been a bad experience for them. Their first game and it bombed
>>729267972George has autism and thinks PCs are still "workstations" and for some reason, everyone who works with him just believes him compeltely.
>>729268376>- They port their games to Nintendo consoles so they get all the sales they could want
>>729268534>That is definitely dependent on the publisher or games. Capcom says they sell more on PC than consoles now.Companies like Capcom claim that because their shareholders force them to port their games to PC and they have to pretend said ports sell or otherwise said shareholders will fire the CEOs. Nightdive revealed an uncomfortable truth that shareholders refuse to acknowledge to save face. >having old games just ported is cheap work to make a fortune for how many people want to play them on PC.1. You're vastly overestimating the demand for their games. It's pretty telling that Sega didn't push them further when they refused to port their games: Sega knows there isn't a significant audience. Most people don't know who Vanillaware are. 2. There are billions of indie games identical to Vanillaware's titles so their games would go unnoticed.
If they love their console fans so much why dont they release the princess crown remake?
>>729268794The Switch is the best selling console ever, to the point where Sony had to lie about the PS2 sales, a console that stopped being manufactured 20 years ago. If you had to choose between the Nintendo eShop and Steam, the eShop is the absolute choice.
tendie delusion thread
>>729269042I haven't owned a Nintendo console since the DSi; I'm just being realistic.Remember, Nintendo fans are paying $80 for Virtual Boy titles and mediocre games like the Fire Emblem franchise sell record numbers because they're Nintendo exclusives.
>>729268376>out of nowhere seething over pc
Is 13 sentinals good?
>>729268875>Capcom lies directly to shareholders at a yearly fiscal meeting, FOR REALS>Source: this guy who blindly believes a remaster/porting studio
>>729269005>20 years agoThey were still making PS2s just over 10 years ago for third world countries+Brazil. FIFA 2014 was on the PS2 and the PS4.
>>729269042I cant imagine why the console war shit is in this thread to begin with. Vanillaware release on Playstation consoles and Nintendo consoles.
>>729269320>Capcom lies directly to shareholders at a yearly fiscal meeting, FOR REALSYes. They probably use creative accounting to make the PC version sales numbers look good. It's like when you have an idiot boss who gets convinced of doing something stupid and there is no human power able to convince him otherwise: if you're honest you get fired so you have to tell the boss what he wants to hear.
>>729268875>You're vastly overestimating the demand for their gamesOdin Sphere and Dragon's Crown were pretty big successes
>>729268875One Company selling better on consoles than PC is not a defacto proof that all games sell better on consoles.Its entirely a game to game basis.Capcom does not have pretend its a know fact Capcom games get top seller spots on steam.I hang out on a Japanise discord server and almost everyone on it plays Monster hunter Wilds on PC whit a few people complaining its not on the switch.Even Sony admitted Helldivers 2 sold like 3:1 on PC vs consoles.Nis claimed sales of Disagea PC saved the company from bankruptcy.Fantasy Life and New Inazuma had almost shockingly high Success on PC when Level 5 ported the games.Vanilavare games may or may not sell on PC. But there is no way to know this till they come out.
>>729269469I never said anything about Console X being superior or Console Y being inferior. My point is, Nintendo is such a dominant force in the industry you could release your games exclusively on their consoles and you wouldn't need anything else. Playstation has a considerable market share and among them you find the original Vanillaware fans so it makes sense they get the games too, giving VW a good profitable base from both market leaders.
>>729268667>refuse to buy a console.Then cry and kys, subhuman.
>>729269590With console users; nothing guarantees that they would be successful with PC gamers.
The weird thing about this is that Atlus wants to port the games so it would be at no cost to Vanillaware.
>>729267972>Was the game development of that game they made for Enix that bad?What game?
>>729269569>Source>Trust me bro
>>729269670IMHO Nightdive were butthurt about the latest Blood remaster selling like shit and getting negative reviews on Steam so they made that claim out of spite. If they said the truth they would have abandoned Steam a long time ago.
>>729269851>With console users; nothing guarantees that they would be successful with PC gamersInstead of wasting time making xbox ports they could have just released on PC. Developing xbox games is a complete waste of time and money. Are you going to start claiming xbox sells more than PC now?
There is also the fact that console-only developers and franchises always go to shit when they start porting their games to PC.>From Software>Atlus>The Yakuza franchise >Koei TecmoWanting to keep your integrity as a developer is an excellent reason to not want to engage with a poisonous platform.
>>729269805>If you dont CONSUME! you are subhuman.Really?Also he has a Point.There is Zero reason to buy a Console just to play VanilaVare games as these games are by no means so good to justify buying 500+$ physical DRM just to play them.Especially sense you can also just emulate them. Hell i have an Actual PS4 disc of Aegis Rim back from when i still had a PS4 before i sold it because it just gathered dust. And i still played the game on Switch emulator.
>>729269787>The Switch is the best selling console ever, to the point where Sony had to lie about the PS2 salesYou're obviously rage baiting and trying to start shit with sonyfags. This thread is about PCs
>>729270063Xbox and PC have a lot of overlap so the failure of their Xbox ports proves that PC ports would be wasted money and effort too.
>>729270085Explain to me how exactly did any of the games from these developers got to shit other than the fact you dont like them.
>>729267972They know the profits will corrupt them.
>>729270154Well I have a Vita so there's no need to buy a new console as I don't care about their fire emblem clone.
>>729269870Is Ubisoft being honest with their claims of Assassins' Creed Shadows being a success?
>>729269275One of my all time favourites
>>729270179>Xbox and PC have a lot of overlapBullshit. After the 360 Xbox became a failed brand which very few people bought. No game is going to sell well on the latest Xbox console. PC is a completely different environment
>>729268376>As revealed by Nightdive recently, most of videogame sales come from consoles, to the point where PC is pretty much negligibleNightdive makes enhanced ports of games most PC gamers already own.
>>729268376>- Not wanting their assets to be reverse-engineered and stolenDo you even know what reverse-engineering means? Also, all of the assets from every one of their games have been ripped out immediately after release, you don't need a pc version for that.Why the fuck am I even interacting with this retarded bait of a comment
>>729270312From Software went from being an extremely creative B developer with plenty of beloved (albeit obscure / niche) franchises to become the new Ubisoft, down to milking the same game foreverAtlus went full otaku pandering; instead of having interesting titles like the Majin Tensei or Devil Survivor games we only have Persona and Persona-adjacent drivel like Soul Hackers 2. Yakuza went full yearly milking a la Call of DutyKoei Tecmo: same as From Software.
Hold the fuck up if sales mattered then why did they develop games for the Vita?
>>729270504>all of the assets from every one of their games have been ripped out immediately after release, you don't need a pc version for that.Literally false; otherwise Steam would be full of shovelware using their Dragon's Crown or 13 Sentinels assets. Which is exactly what they want to avoid: imagine porting their games only for the sprites to be stolen and then used by a billion of shovelware beat'em ups.
>>729268875>Nightdive revealed an uncomfortable truth that shareholders refuse to acknowledge to save face.This is the stupidest fucking thing I’ve ever read. No serious shareholder on earth will turn down more profit because it makes them look smart, they don’t even have authority to make such a moronic decision. >>729269005Yes it’s obviously malicious lies and not something more like “hey remember that ballpark figure we lowballed because we were so far ahead of everyone else we didn’t need to bother checking smaller sources of sales? Well now someone might beat us so go and do the legwork.”
>>729270504>Why the fuck am I even interacting with this retarded bait of a commentTo be fair to that guy this one is one of the reqsons they gave in an interview when they were asked why they didnt make PC ports
>>729270627Are you brain damaged?
>PC has no sales that's why they developed Vita and Xbox Series (lmao) portsMake it make sense
>>729270627Man, what are you talking about? This shit makes no sense, do you think the only thing preventing people from stealing sprites from other games is the inability to extract those sprites from those games? Come the fuck on.
>>729270740Are you? Steam is full of indie games stealing assets from everywhere and profiting from them. Vanillaware has to spend a lot of manpower and resources creating their sprites and background art; why would they leave those sprites in the open so Xiao or Joao can steal them for their unbalanced and poorly coded beat'em up?
>>729271040I see, you're a complete fucking idiot.
>>729268376>As revealed by Nightdive recently, most of videogame sales come from consoles, to the point where PC is pretty much negligibleTruth nuclear bomb
>>729270827Vanillaware wanted to give a chance to Xbox, which allowed them to check if PC was worth due to the overlap between Xbox and PC users. Vita, they just love the console. Plenty of developers and fans love a particular console to the point where even in 2025 we have people releasing games on the Mega Drive, the Dreamcast, the Saturn or the Vita itself.
>>729270154You have no argument against VW's decision on where they release games. You're just going to pirate them no matter the platform.
>>729271140>Vanillaware wanted to give a chance to Xbox, which allowed them to check if PC was worth due to the overlap between Xbox and PC usersWhat overlap? There is no overlap
>>729270518All of these things happened long before they started poring games to PC retard.This has nothing to do whit PC and everything to do whit the success of these games.Atlus was milking Persona long before they ported 4 golden to PC.Demons and Dark souls games are quite literally the first games From soft made that got Universal acclaim and sold millions.Yakuza Games also had yearly releases the only difference is that the 2 Samurai games never got an official English translation back on the PS3.Kenzan! 3 4 Dead souls and 5 Ishin! all came whiting 1 year of each other.You are literally just imagining coloration to explain why you think "old good new bad".Even when its your own biased opinion on games.
>>729271203Gamepass says otherwise.
>>729267972They hate PCfags as much as the mustard race hate anything that doesn't allow them to suck Gayben cock all day every day.All their games are playable on PC anyway so you're not losing anything.
>>729271172If Vanillaware released Dragon's Crown on Steam tomorrow, no one would buy it.Instead everyone would pirate it, claiming that they're rightfully punishing VW for ignoring them for 10 years.
>>729271040Call the fucking cops dude, I'm about to make billions with these super secret sprites that I stole directly from vanillaware, definitely not freely available anywhere online
>>729271229All 200 xbox owners may own a PC but the hundreds of millions of PC owners dont have an Xbox
>>729271275>doesn't allow them to suck Gayben cock all day every day.You bring another excellent point: Vanillaware is a company that works with scarce resources and budget so being forced to give 30% of every sale to Valve must look monstrous to them.
>>729271172I only pirate games when they are not available on the platform i already own.And here is a screenshot of the recent games i bought.And as i stated i actually owned a PS4 version of Aegis rim and played it on a Switch emulator regardless because it was more convenient.
>>729269275You only have a reason to play through it once but you will have an incredible time while doing so
>>729271040>>729271358Lmao
>>729269960It's still probably true but missing the important context that 90% of Nightdive's catalog was already on PC (and usually in better shape) while they never were on consoles.Of course they're going to get more sales on console for something like System Shock 2, a game that's been available on PC for decades.
Im playan through this right now, its bretty gud
>>729271676The story is nonsensical.
I cant tel if the person arguing against PC in this thread is just trolling for entertainment or if they have genuine autism and are possibly trans.Because i refuse to believe anyone sane would actually believe what they are saying.
>>729271478That's convenient to say when you reduce the amount of platforms you own.
>>729271478You only bought those games because they were cheap, which brings another point: why would you port your games when the only profit you can expect from them is $1 in five or six years? Vanillaware selling one of their games on consoles gets more profit from one day one console buyer than all of those companies together got from you during this Steam sale.
>>729271478>Everyone on this sale bought Nioh 1 because it was dirt cheap, even when everyone knows that game is just a glorified alpha test for Nioh 2It's the equivalent of buying Street Fighter 1 because it was cheaper than Super Turbo.
>>729271725Why do i need to own more than 1 if that one platform has all the games.
>>729271907By that logic neither is worth playing since they're just alpha and beta for Nioh 3
>>729271907I own Nioh 2 bro.I played 1 on MY friends Ps4 back in the day.And i think 1 was better than 2.
>>729271962I mean yeah, you're a PC owner, you're not adverse to pirating games. Why should they cater to an audience that will pirate their games if they do or don't release it on their preferred platform?
>>729271534They also removed the original version from sale.Pick related is Original vs Remaster vs Mod for orignal.So yea unless you care about achievements there is no reason to buy the remaster.
>>729272163Yikes.
>>729272142People can pirate their games on the PS3 and Switch.Just because many people pirate does not mean all people pirate.I could have easily pirated FFVII rebirth FFXVI P5R or Elden Ring on PC (non of these had denuvo) but i still bought all of them day one.Meanwhile i pirated Ghost of Tsushima and Spiderman 2 out of spite because Sony decided to no support my region on steam for years.And chances are Marvel tokon May not come out in my region on release even thou they recently removed the restrictions.
>HOW DARE YOU BUY GAMES ON SALEIts amazing what bootlickers consolefags are
